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Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 1:41 pm
by The Red Pill
Scott Adam's, creator of the cartoon Dilbert, honestly and openly admits he was wrong about the clot-shot.

He regrets getting it and says the anti-vaxers WON the debate...and he is worried about his health in the future.

Sad state of affairs when the creator of Dilbert can be more honest and open than Q15.

Why is that?

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 1:48 pm
by HVDC
The Red Pill wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 1:41 pm Scott Adam's, creator of the cartoon Dilbert, honestly and openly admits he was wrong about the clot-shot.

He regrets getting it and says the anti-vaxers WON the debate...and he is worried about his health in the future.

Sad state of affairs when the creator of Dilbert can be more honest and open than Q15.

Why is that?
Because they were liars from the beginning, like their father.

Sir H

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 1:53 pm
by larsenb
The Red Pill wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 1:41 pm Scott Adam's, creator of the cartoon Dilbert, honestly and openly admits he was wrong about the clot-shot.

He regrets getting it and says the anti-vaxers WON the debate...and he is worried about his health in the future.

Sad state of affairs when the creator of Dilbert can be more honest and open than Q15.

Why is that?
Scott Adams is someone who honest and not easily gulled by the commonly accepted narrative. His cartoons are an example of this. For instance, he was able to see through the dense accusatory fog surrounding DT, and actually see him as a fairly earnest person with largely a good agenda, despite what I'm sure was his aversion to Trump's tendency to lapse into acute incivility, etc.

But he does come from a rather liberal, progressive background, and probably wasn't able to extract himself from the pervasive propaganda regarding the clot shot . . . . and may have been partially for it because DT was pushing it. :shock:

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 1:55 pm
by Niemand
Eric Clapton has been very forthright about his jab injury as well.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 1:56 pm
by Lizzy60
Scott Adams has never called himself a prophet, seer, and revelator, whose every word comes from God, who will never lead us astray, and in whom we can place our complete trust.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 1:58 pm
by Reluctant Watchman
“I did not end up in the right place.” That is what happens when you place your trust in the arm of flesh.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 2:02 pm
by Reluctant Watchman
Sucks to wake up to the reality you might have a ticking timebomb in your body. That’s really gotta play some games with your mental health.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 2:03 pm
by larsenb
Niemand wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 1:55 pm Eric Clapton has been very forthright about his jab injury as well.
Clapton even went on to endorse Mattias Desmet's theory of Mass Formation, saying: "Once I kind of started to look for it, I saw it everywhere."

And it is, everywhere.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 2:06 pm
by gradles21
Because psychopaths aren't capable of admitting they are wrong and will never apologize, they are like sharks incapable of swimming backwards.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 2:19 pm
by silverado
Lizzy60 wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 1:56 pm Scott Adams has never called himself a prophet, seer, and revelator, whose every word comes from God, who will never lead us astray, and in whom we can place our complete trust.
Yes! Exactly! Scott Adams and Eric Clapton never claimed to speak for God. They can admit a mistake and still be respected as an author/cartoonist and musician.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 2:57 pm
by tribrac
You should find and study all the official apologies from the church to learn what must happen before they issue one.

Let us know how it goes.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 3:16 pm
by iWriteStuff
Never underestimate a human’s desire to not see the obvious when their tranquility depends on it.

In this case, neither the brethren nor their sycophants will ever admit they goofed up.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 4:00 pm
by Ebenezer
The Q15 has tied themselves into a rather tangled knot.

They claim to receive "pure revelation" from God.

RMN said the vaxxx was an answer to prayer and a "literal godsend."

Renlund declared in GC that the shot was "safe and effective."

The infamous vaxxx letter claimed that the shot was the "only" way to end the pandemic.

If the brethren admit they were wrong, they'd undermine their claim to pure revelation.

And they can't have that.

Even though, for more and more members, that claim is being undermined all by itself.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 4:05 pm
by Reluctant Watchman
Ebenezer wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 4:00 pm The Q15 has tied themselves into a rather tangled knot.

They claim to receive "pure revelation" from God.

RMN said the vaxxx was an answer to prayer and a "literal godsend."

Renlund declared in GC that the shot was "safe and effective."

The infamous vaxxx letter claimed that the shot was the "only" way to end the pandemic.

If the brethren admit they were wrong, they'd undermine their claim to pure revelation.

And they can't have that.

Even though, for more and more members, that claim is being undermined all by itself.
I think several have noted here on the forum, the FP cannot find a comfortable way out of the web they have created. Telling everyone they speak for God. Telling everyone they can never lead you astray. Telling everyone “God gave us a vaccine.” And it’s killing or maiming them, their friends, or their family.

And they’ll probably just sit there and exclaim, “Maybe it was my fault… maybe I didn’t have sufficient faith… maybe I doubted the faith of the brethren…”

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 4:06 pm
by silverado
tribrac wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 2:57 pm You should find and study all the official apologies from the church to learn what must happen before they issue one.

Let us know how it goes.
I cant remember ever seeing or hearing of one.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 5:19 pm
by tribrac
There is one thing they apologized for, unofficially, but they repeated the unofficial apology several times....

They apologized for supporting California Prop 8

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 7:27 pm
by Chip
I could see the Q15 eventually writing an apology, if there was no other way forward......



To ChatGPT:

LDS leaders finally admit to error after validating a staged pandemic and telling members to receive a vaccine that later was shown to be the cause of much death and suffering. This is difficult for them because the leaders have taught the members to regard the leaders as God's sole appointed mouthpieces on the earth. There is no technical reason for this mistake. They simply gave people bad counsel and, by many indications, they were in league with those who staged the fake pandemic.

Write an apology letter from the leaders to the members, where they admit their error and offer an explanation for what happened.


ChatGPT responds:

Dear Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,

We, the leaders of the Church, are writing to you today with a heavy heart. We have come to realize that we made a grave error in our guidance regarding the recent pandemic and the recommended vaccine. We understand that this has caused much pain and suffering for many of our members, and for that we are truly sorry.

We want to take this opportunity to offer an explanation for what happened. In the early days of the pandemic, we were given information by various health authorities that led us to believe that the situation was dire and that a vaccine was the only way to protect ourselves and our loved ones. We trusted in the expertise of these authorities and, in good faith, we urged our members to receive the vaccine.

However, it has since become clear that the information we were given was not accurate and that the vaccine has caused serious side effects for many people. We understand that this has led to a great deal of confusion and mistrust, and we take full responsibility for our mistake.

We want to assure you that we have taken steps to ensure that this does not happen again. We are committed to being more diligent in our research and to being more transparent about the information we receive. We also want to encourage our members to be more critical of the information they receive and to always seek out multiple sources before making any decisions about their health.

We understand that our mistake has caused great harm and that it will take time for our members to heal and to trust us again. We ask for your forgiveness and for your continued support as we work to regain your trust.

Sincerely,

[Your names]
Leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 7:34 pm
by InfoWarrior82
tribrac wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 5:19 pm There is one thing they apologized for, unofficially, but they repeated the unofficial apology several times....

They apologized for supporting California Prop 8
They also apologized and disavowed the Book of Mormon when it said that the Laminates were cursed with dark skin because of their wickedness before the Lord.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 7:36 pm
by InfoWarrior82
Chip wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:27 pm I could see the Q15 eventually writing an apology, if there was no other way forward......



To ChatGPT:

LDS leaders finally admit to error after validating a staged pandemic and telling members to receive a vaccine that later was shown to be the cause of much death and suffering. This is difficult for them because the leaders have taught the members to regard the leaders as God's sole appointed mouthpieces on the earth. There is no technical reason for this mistake. They simply gave people bad counsel and, by many indications, they were in league with those who staged the fake pandemic.

Write an apology letter from the leaders to the members, where they admit their error and offer an explanation for what happened.


ChatGPT responds:

Dear Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,

We, the leaders of the Church, are writing to you today with a heavy heart. We have come to realize that we made a grave error in our guidance regarding the recent pandemic and the recommended vaccine. We understand that this has caused much pain and suffering for many of our members, and for that we are truly sorry.

We want to take this opportunity to offer an explanation for what happened. In the early days of the pandemic, we were given information by various health authorities that led us to believe that the situation was dire and that a vaccine was the only way to protect ourselves and our loved ones. We trusted in the expertise of these authorities and, in good faith, we urged our members to receive the vaccine.

However, it has since become clear that the information we were given was not accurate and that the vaccine has caused serious side effects for many people. We understand that this has led to a great deal of confusion and mistrust, and we take full responsibility for our mistake.

We want to assure you that we have taken steps to ensure that this does not happen again. We are committed to being more diligent in our research and to being more transparent about the information we receive. We also want to encourage our members to be more critical of the information they receive and to always seek out multiple sources before making any decisions about their health.

We understand that our mistake has caused great harm and that it will take time for our members to heal and to trust us again. We ask for your forgiveness and for your continued support as we work to regain your trust.

Sincerely,

[Your names]
Leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
So very interesting it said nothing about revelation and Jesus Christ

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 7:40 pm
by Chip
InfoWarrior82 wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:36 pm
Chip wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:27 pm I could see the Q15 eventually writing an apology, if there was no other way forward......



To ChatGPT:

LDS leaders finally admit to error after validating a staged pandemic and telling members to receive a vaccine that later was shown to be the cause of much death and suffering. This is difficult for them because the leaders have taught the members to regard the leaders as God's sole appointed mouthpieces on the earth. There is no technical reason for this mistake. They simply gave people bad counsel and, by many indications, they were in league with those who staged the fake pandemic.

Write an apology letter from the leaders to the members, where they admit their error and offer an explanation for what happened.


ChatGPT responds:

Dear Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,

We, the leaders of the Church, are writing to you today with a heavy heart. We have come to realize that we made a grave error in our guidance regarding the recent pandemic and the recommended vaccine. We understand that this has caused much pain and suffering for many of our members, and for that we are truly sorry.

We want to take this opportunity to offer an explanation for what happened. In the early days of the pandemic, we were given information by various health authorities that led us to believe that the situation was dire and that a vaccine was the only way to protect ourselves and our loved ones. We trusted in the expertise of these authorities and, in good faith, we urged our members to receive the vaccine.

However, it has since become clear that the information we were given was not accurate and that the vaccine has caused serious side effects for many people. We understand that this has led to a great deal of confusion and mistrust, and we take full responsibility for our mistake.

We want to assure you that we have taken steps to ensure that this does not happen again. We are committed to being more diligent in our research and to being more transparent about the information we receive. We also want to encourage our members to be more critical of the information they receive and to always seek out multiple sources before making any decisions about their health.

We understand that our mistake has caused great harm and that it will take time for our members to heal and to trust us again. We ask for your forgiveness and for your continued support as we work to regain your trust.

Sincerely,

[Your names]
Leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
So very interesting it said nothing about revelation and Jesus Christ

What could they claim in that circumstance? It's almost game-over.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 7:43 pm
by InfoWarrior82
Chip wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:40 pm
InfoWarrior82 wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:36 pm
Chip wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:27 pm I could see the Q15 eventually writing an apology, if there was no other way forward......



To ChatGPT:

LDS leaders finally admit to error after validating a staged pandemic and telling members to receive a vaccine that later was shown to be the cause of much death and suffering. This is difficult for them because the leaders have taught the members to regard the leaders as God's sole appointed mouthpieces on the earth. There is no technical reason for this mistake. They simply gave people bad counsel and, by many indications, they were in league with those who staged the fake pandemic.

Write an apology letter from the leaders to the members, where they admit their error and offer an explanation for what happened.


ChatGPT responds:

Dear Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,

We, the leaders of the Church, are writing to you today with a heavy heart. We have come to realize that we made a grave error in our guidance regarding the recent pandemic and the recommended vaccine. We understand that this has caused much pain and suffering for many of our members, and for that we are truly sorry.

We want to take this opportunity to offer an explanation for what happened. In the early days of the pandemic, we were given information by various health authorities that led us to believe that the situation was dire and that a vaccine was the only way to protect ourselves and our loved ones. We trusted in the expertise of these authorities and, in good faith, we urged our members to receive the vaccine.

However, it has since become clear that the information we were given was not accurate and that the vaccine has caused serious side effects for many people. We understand that this has led to a great deal of confusion and mistrust, and we take full responsibility for our mistake.

We want to assure you that we have taken steps to ensure that this does not happen again. We are committed to being more diligent in our research and to being more transparent about the information we receive. We also want to encourage our members to be more critical of the information they receive and to always seek out multiple sources before making any decisions about their health.

We understand that our mistake has caused great harm and that it will take time for our members to heal and to trust us again. We ask for your forgiveness and for your continued support as we work to regain your trust.

Sincerely,

[Your names]
Leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
So very interesting it said nothing about revelation and Jesus Christ

What could they claim in that circumstance? It's almost game-over.


"The Urim and Thumimn ran out of batteries two sentences into the revelation on the jabs. We made assumptions on what the Lord would have said. Whoopsies."

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 7:47 pm
by Chip
InfoWarrior82 wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:43 pm
Chip wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:40 pm
InfoWarrior82 wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:36 pm
Chip wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:27 pm I could see the Q15 eventually writing an apology, if there was no other way forward......



To ChatGPT:

LDS leaders finally admit to error after validating a staged pandemic and telling members to receive a vaccine that later was shown to be the cause of much death and suffering. This is difficult for them because the leaders have taught the members to regard the leaders as God's sole appointed mouthpieces on the earth. There is no technical reason for this mistake. They simply gave people bad counsel and, by many indications, they were in league with those who staged the fake pandemic.

Write an apology letter from the leaders to the members, where they admit their error and offer an explanation for what happened.


ChatGPT responds:

Dear Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,

We, the leaders of the Church, are writing to you today with a heavy heart. We have come to realize that we made a grave error in our guidance regarding the recent pandemic and the recommended vaccine. We understand that this has caused much pain and suffering for many of our members, and for that we are truly sorry.

We want to take this opportunity to offer an explanation for what happened. In the early days of the pandemic, we were given information by various health authorities that led us to believe that the situation was dire and that a vaccine was the only way to protect ourselves and our loved ones. We trusted in the expertise of these authorities and, in good faith, we urged our members to receive the vaccine.

However, it has since become clear that the information we were given was not accurate and that the vaccine has caused serious side effects for many people. We understand that this has led to a great deal of confusion and mistrust, and we take full responsibility for our mistake.

We want to assure you that we have taken steps to ensure that this does not happen again. We are committed to being more diligent in our research and to being more transparent about the information we receive. We also want to encourage our members to be more critical of the information they receive and to always seek out multiple sources before making any decisions about their health.

We understand that our mistake has caused great harm and that it will take time for our members to heal and to trust us again. We ask for your forgiveness and for your continued support as we work to regain your trust.

Sincerely,

[Your names]
Leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
So very interesting it said nothing about revelation and Jesus Christ

What could they claim in that circumstance? It's almost game-over.


"The Urim and Thumimn ran out of batteries two sentences into the revelation on the jabs. We made assumptions on what the Lord would have said. Whoopsies."

Have ChatGPT work out that scenario.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 7:53 pm
by Wolfwoman
tribrac wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 5:19 pm There is one thing they apologized for, unofficially, but they repeated the unofficial apology several times....

They apologized for supporting California Prop 8
They did?!
Or do you just mean they did that by supporting the recent legislation?

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 7:54 pm
by madvin
InfoWarrior82 wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:36 pm
Chip wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:27 pm I could see the Q15 eventually writing an apology, if there was no other way forward......



To ChatGPT:

LDS leaders finally admit to error after validating a staged pandemic and telling members to receive a vaccine that later was shown to be the cause of much death and suffering. This is difficult for them because the leaders have taught the members to regard the leaders as God's sole appointed mouthpieces on the earth. There is no technical reason for this mistake. They simply gave people bad counsel and, by many indications, they were in league with those who staged the fake pandemic.

Write an apology letter from the leaders to the members, where they admit their error and offer an explanation for what happened.


ChatGPT responds:

Dear Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,

We, the leaders of the Church, are writing to you today with a heavy heart. We have come to realize that we made a grave error in our guidance regarding the recent pandemic and the recommended vaccine. We understand that this has caused much pain and suffering for many of our members, and for that we are truly sorry.

We want to take this opportunity to offer an explanation for what happened. In the early days of the pandemic, we were given information by various health authorities that led us to believe that the situation was dire and that a vaccine was the only way to protect ourselves and our loved ones. We trusted in the expertise of these authorities and, in good faith, we urged our members to receive the vaccine.

However, it has since become clear that the information we were given was not accurate and that the vaccine has caused serious side effects for many people. We understand that this has led to a great deal of confusion and mistrust, and we take full responsibility for our mistake.

We want to assure you that we have taken steps to ensure that this does not happen again. We are committed to being more diligent in our research and to being more transparent about the information we receive. We also want to encourage our members to be more critical of the information they receive and to always seek out multiple sources before making any decisions about their health.

We understand that our mistake has caused great harm and that it will take time for our members to heal and to trust us again. We ask for your forgiveness and for your continued support as we work to regain your trust.

Sincerely,

[Your names]
Leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
So very interesting it said nothing about revelation and Jesus Christ
Yes, a very lame apology.

Re: Dilbert creator, Scott Adam's admits...anti-vaxers WON...why can't Q15?

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 8:17 pm
by tribrac
Wolfwoman wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 7:53 pm
tribrac wrote: January 22nd, 2023, 5:19 pm There is one thing they apologized for, unofficially, but they repeated the unofficial apology several times....

They apologized for supporting California Prop 8
They did?!
Or do you just mean they did that by supporting the recent legislation?
MARLIN k Jensen in California 2010
Jeffrey R Holland at Harvard Law School 2012

Neither was official, but will be official as they get.