Was He Correct?
Posted: December 31st, 2022, 1:54 am
Immediately after he ordained the twelve apostles, Oliver Cowdery told them the following:
If he was correct, then were the following people's ordinations never completed because they never had that experience as apostles or even as Prophet/Presidents of the Church?
President Brigham Young - Said he hadn't had seen either the Father or the son after being president for 12 years and then again 17 years.
Joseph F. Smith - Had not - Testified before Congress that he had not received so much as a revelation more than any Methodist. - 1904-1907
Heber J, Grant - Had not - GC April 1899 and a letter to his sister April 13, 1926 and GC 1942 - President for 24 years
George Albert Smith - Had not - March 25, 1950 - President 5 years
David O. McKay - Said he had not in an interview on May 5, 1961 - President for 10 years
Gordon B. Hinckley - Say that all his revelations come by the Holy Ghost - Multiple interviews throughout his presidency
Thomas S. Monson - I remember him saying no and don't ask, but didn't look for the quote.
Russell M. Nelson - As far as I can tell, not yet. 8 years ago when he was the Sr. Apostle he said he didn't and that his special witness was from the spirit which he related to anyone having the same witness when taking the Sacrament.
If he wasn't correct, then why was he ordaining and instructing the Apostles under the title "President O. Cowdery"?
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper ... transcript
~Seeker
Was he correct?You have been indebted to other men in the first instance for evidence, on that you have acted. But <it> is necessary that you receive a testimony from Heaven for yourselves, so that you can bear testimony to the truth of the Book of Mormon. And that you have seen the face of God: that is more than the testimony of an Angel. When the proper time arrives, you shall be able to bear this testimony to the world. When you bear testimony that you have seen God. This testimony God will never suffer to fall, but will bear you out. although many will not give heed, yet others will. You will, therefore, see the necessity of getting this testimony from Heaven. Never cease striving until you have seen God, face to face. Strengthen your faith, cast off your doubts, your sins and all your unbelief and nothing can prevent you from coming to God. your ordination is not full and complete till God has laid his hand upon you. We require as much to qualify us as did those who have gone before us. God is the same. If the Saviour in former days laid his hands on his deciples. Why not in the latter Days.
If he was correct, then were the following people's ordinations never completed because they never had that experience as apostles or even as Prophet/Presidents of the Church?
President Brigham Young - Said he hadn't had seen either the Father or the son after being president for 12 years and then again 17 years.
Joseph F. Smith - Had not - Testified before Congress that he had not received so much as a revelation more than any Methodist. - 1904-1907
Heber J, Grant - Had not - GC April 1899 and a letter to his sister April 13, 1926 and GC 1942 - President for 24 years
George Albert Smith - Had not - March 25, 1950 - President 5 years
David O. McKay - Said he had not in an interview on May 5, 1961 - President for 10 years
Gordon B. Hinckley - Say that all his revelations come by the Holy Ghost - Multiple interviews throughout his presidency
Thomas S. Monson - I remember him saying no and don't ask, but didn't look for the quote.
Russell M. Nelson - As far as I can tell, not yet. 8 years ago when he was the Sr. Apostle he said he didn't and that his special witness was from the spirit which he related to anyone having the same witness when taking the Sacrament.
If he wasn't correct, then why was he ordaining and instructing the Apostles under the title "President O. Cowdery"?
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper ... transcript
~Seeker
