ThanksThis link will give you all the information you need:
http://www.infowars.com/listen.html
How can you tell? He sounds pretty serious to me.P.S. Mosby was being extreme and funny to emphasize a point - while praying from atop the Rameuptom no less. Lol
Did we attack Iraq over 9/11, embassies attacked in Africa, the USS Kohl, the WTC bombing in the 90's?EFB wrote: So, the wars we fight are preemptive are they? I guess 9/11 never happened; Khobar Towers never happened; embassies in Africa were never attacked; the USS Kohl was never fired upon; the WTC wasn't bombed in the 90s; etc. etc. etc.
If you don't see the connections, so be it!jonnybreeves wrote:EFB wrote:Did we attack Iraq over 9/11, embassies attacked in Africa, the USS Kohl, the WTC bombing in the 90's?So, the wars we fight are preemptive are they? I guess 9/11 never happened; Khobar Towers never happened; embassies in Africa were never attacked; the USS Kohl was never fired upon; the WTC wasn't bombed in the 90s; etc. etc. etc.
This is news to me. Iraq is where the Bush Doctrine of preemptive warfare originated.
That's EFB, BTW. One does not need logic, just open eyes. Or, have I been blinded by all the smoke?jonnybreeves wrote:ETB, your logic worries me. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but none of the reasons you mentioned has anything to do with the Iraq War.
EFB, I'd like to discuss this with you...perhaps we can do so away from the thread, so as not to impede the discussion. If you would like, visit my blog. It will give you a perspective of where I am coming from. Then I can get a better sense of where you are at in your search for the truth. Thanks.EFB wrote: That's EFB, BTW. One does not need logic, just open eyes. Or, have I been blinded by all the smoke?
Point us to some evidence for Alex connecting Mormons to the conspiracy...I'd like to know if the Mormons are involved. (jk on the last part)pjbrownie wrote:I didn' realize Jones puts Mormons into a conspiracy. Nuff' said about his credibility. I'd rather listen to Beck than parrot the anti-Mormon anti-Beck Jones. Talk about sheep! Does Jones teach the principles in the Constitution as outlined by Skousen? Beck is the closest to Skousen we have in the media nowdays, for heaven's sake, he wants us to read 5000 year leap, the Naked Communist, and Naked Capitalist. If ETB were alive today, some of you guys would throw him under the bus if he didn't pull out a bullhorn at a FEMA camp or Bilderberg meeting.
Skousen would have taken Glenny across his knee for his shameful treatment of Ron Paul during the election- then he would back-hand him with a copy of the Constitution for his support of pre-emptive warfare. And last but not least Cleon would not have been happy with Beck's love of all things Romney.
) ........hard.....to .......write.......while.......laughing.........so.........hard...........Beck and Skousen in the same sentence?Mosby wrote:[quoteBeck is the closest to Skousen we have in the media nowdays, for heaven's sake, he wants us to read 5000 year leap, the Naked Communist, and Naked Capitalist. I]
Skousen would have taken Glenny across his knee for his shameful treatment of Ron Paul during the election- then he would back-hand him with a copy of the Constitution for his support of pre-emptive warfare. And last but not least Cleon would not have been happy with Beck's love of all things Romney. )[/quote]
It is called a boyscout complex. No, I am not a psycho.. Sorry to dissapoint. I cried for 6 days when I lost my first dog. Still bothers me if I think about him to much. Never beat up any friends, or tried to manipulate them. Never tortured anything and extremely loyal. Always great to my girlfirends, still my friends. I do like fighting though. Never hurt any animals and got lots of relationships (they just don't have my sleep problem). I am overly protective though and that make me very angry. Never abuse people around, just people I consider enemies. Lots of them here. Gramps used to say I was exactly like a caucasion dog from the caucas mountains. Even tempered and easy to those I knew and vicious to enemies.hedgehog wrote:Blip i see a pattern in your behavior that is disconcerting.
If i could offer some friendly advice. If when you see groups of people you start thinking of ways you could get them to do something you think they need, or should do, or even just something that entertains you... then you may be a sociopath. (note this is quite different from charitable assistance to individuals)
No matter how good your intentions or how much good you accomplish to start with the craving for more control will always lead you to cause much greater harm and evil then any good. My advice is that the urge for control or influence over groups is an itch best left unscratched. Just like violence, pornography, drugs and alcohol.
Every policeman, lawyer, and soldier absolutely must develop ways of dealing with problems at home that are very different from ways of dealing with problems at work. Sociopaths also must develop codes or rules they live by. I say this as a self-restrained sociopath myself. I avoid important church callings and work promotions. Much like a recovering alcoholic who still craves alcohol but simply has stopped the consumption.
Here is a brief checklist to help you know if you maybe you've developed a bad habit. Of course i don't know you I just thought this maybe could spare you from wasting your life in a destructive pursuit.
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
Some people on this site have consistently degraded both police and military to the point of discussing murdering them. Dang right I am upset. Every time I hear someone talk about them like that I get a picture of a dead friend in my head. I felt the same when I thought that it was al qaeda that killed my fellow Americans. I was mad and went to fight...But you don't know nothin bout that do you?So why don't you get some facts straight about me before you try to profile? You suck at it. Your power of dicsernment is pathetic. You got a problem then PM me instead of making such a foolish comment. I have no respect for you...Punk.Blip wrote:I agree. However the time for pontifiction is over. Americans have had way to much time to pontificate and most have spent it watching entertainment with borrowed time. Did you know that many men spend their free time looking at porn? What a waste. How below me, and them too. I have had 3 months of freedom and it is a different challenge. I have used it wisely. My pontification is over. I have turned an about-face and ready for what comes. And yet so many take years and still nothing...Time is running short. I have looked at many sources and have made an easy conclusion based on the spirit. There simply is not enough time for details (and I do love details). To much time has been spent by all to frolic in the arts and thoughts. It is time to prepare for war. We are going to get caught with our pants down with all of this silly procrastination. We are in the jaws of hell and people are still apathetic. Even if we had 10 years, it would take every day of serious devotion to even block what is coming. Nevermind an offensive. Pick a side and run with it. To much time in conflict and argueing..........If we win I will think it a miracle. I have been "free" to make my "choices" and I got to tell you that I am unimpressed and somewhat dissapointed in this movement. I am more than satisfied with the leaders. I got to tell you that I am more impressed with the potential womens' soldierly than the mens' 70% of the time? You guys are all over the place. No discipline. I don't like the women's movement, but dang. I would rather train many of them....many of you guys SUCK. The women in this church are not near as apostate on average and got way more heart.....
I think I need to devote more time into understanding them...Way more loyal.
I agree he is doing some good. I'm sure there are certain people that needed to hear him in order to wake up ... However... I am not a regular listener of his show, I would never start/join a "912 Project Group", and I don't recommend Glenn Beck to anyone... WHY? Simply because there are others out there that do a much better job at teaching the truth than Beck.. Here's a short list (dead and living): W. Cleon Skousen, Scott Bradley, Stephen Pratt, Oliver DeMille... then there's the JBS videos (Overview of America), the New American magazine, Ezra Taft Benson (and other Prophets)... then there are websites... So many resources I would recommend to people before pointing them to Glenn Beck.If Glenn can bring people to stand for he constitution and bring souls to the church he then is fulfilling a great role
Alex Jones may play a role, yet he is anti Mormon
Yes, please provide some evidence that Alex Jones is anti-Mormon. Over the past years I've received multiple emails from people asking me why I "support" Alex Jones (I have a link to his site on my links page)... then they proceed to tell me he is anti-Mormon.Point us to some evidence for Alex connecting Mormons to the conspiracy
pjbrownie wrote: My mistrust of Jones has to do with his tone. Sometimes I wonder if Jones is the vanguard for the insiders to draw out the first wave of revolutionaries when they decide to crack down. (I see evidence for everything I believe about the methods of the NWO. I see zero evidence of this. That claim is so far out there, you guys have got to back it up if you are going to make it. Like him or not, Alex Jones is connected with every major player in the truth movement. To suggest he is in on the conspiracy is to suggest that they have already infiltrated the entire movement itself. Lets use the discernment Mark mentioned above and actually discern something about the guy before we spontaneously denounce him. I'd really love to know if you know something I don't that makes you think that...other than that he must actually be really good at what he does for people to wonder if he's on the inside.) We think that GB cannot be telling the truth because he is on Fox (I think the assessment is better stated as...he will not be on fox news long if he gets too close to the truth), why can Jones be allowed to keep his websites up and broadcast his stuff and make his documentaries? (Alex Jones is small time compared to Glenn Beck. Primarily, only people like us listen to him. He is considered a "conspiracy theorist" so his information hardly influences the masses.) When he crashes Bilderbergs, why don't they just slip one of their cancer drugs into his hotel water so he can die like they did to the Freedom to Fascism guy? Riddle me this riddler? (Because this would be one step forward and about 500 yrs. in the wrong direction. Remember, they are the most sophisticated secret combination ever and they are becoming more and more so. You understand the way they work is mind control, don't you? They completely control both major political parties. They control the media. It doesn't matter when one of us rants or raves on a syndicated radio station, or even when one of our own is a leading candidate for President. It doesn't matter. This election season was a perfect example of that. Sure, they will pull out the stops when they have to, but until then, it's business as usual...that means, continue strengthening surveillance laws, and advancing their other police state measures. That way when someone like Alex Jones actually has an influence on the masses, it will be too late anyway. This was the main purpose of 9/11. Mind control. We all know that. And a guy on the radio is not going to turn the tide of 9/11. They know that.) The PTB sure seem to be okay with Jones and his minions. (Couldn't agree more.)
My answer to people who don't like Beck because they think he's some neo-con hack, I answer to them. I was a neo-con hack until last year when I awakened. Now I'm not. Many Americans are going through a journey. It took me a long time to believe stuff as crazy as what Infowars man discusses, but now I believe most of it. Part of it is an emotional journey. (Nice job turning things around. It would be awesome if Glenn Beck completely wakes up. He lives not to far from me. Maybe I'll pay him a visit.)
Now the guy at http://www.mormonzeitgeist.com/alpha/home, on the other hand, says we are responsible for 9/11 and every bad thing before and since. Explains why Mark always seems to be on the road.
Go ahead and try, Putin Jr., I've spent the last 10 years building up an immunity to polonium 210.That reminds me. I need to book that flight to Michigan soon. I just need to round up some more of that blasted Polonium 210 before I go. Does anybody know if I can get overnight delivery from Moscow? Since you missed lunch with Shawn and I yesterday at Cafe Diarrio I think we need to go out for some Sushi JB. My treat Bro.
Kurt, remember the wise words of Elder Ezra Taft BensonKurt wrote: ...how much truth can [Alex Jones] really see when the perfect truth stares him in the face and he can't see it. At the very least Glenn Beck sees the truth that matters which is the gospel and he chose as a convert, so maybe he also continues to learn and grow like me and doesn't already know it all like Alex...
God, the Father of us all, uses the men of the earth, especially good men, to accomplish his purposes. It has been true in the past, it is true today, it will be true in the future.
“Perhaps the Lord needs such men on the outside of His Church to help it along,” said the late Elder Orson F. Whitney of the Quorum of the Twelve. “They are among its auxiliaries, and can do more good for the cause where the Lord has placed them, than anywhere else. … Hence, some are drawn into the fold and receive a testimony of the truth; while others remain unconverted … the beauties and glories of the gospel being veiled temporarily from their view, for a wise purpose. The Lord will open their eyes in His own due time. God is using more than one people for the accomplishment of His great and marvelous work. The Latter-day Saints cannot do it all. It is too vast, too arduous for any one people. … We have no quarrel with the Gentiles. They are our partners in a certain sense.”
