what is up with mr. glenn beck?

[firend]

http://www.infowars.com/glenn-beck-invi ... ema-camps/

[Blip]

Glenn Beck has made many sacrifices of late. I never knew him before, but I can see the conflict in his eyes as he tries to do the right thing. People should cut him a little slack. He is a man in conflict. It isn't every soul that can join the church. Until proven otherwise, he is a brave soul seeking the truth. A very powerful man if he proves true.

[Poltax]

As I recall, Mr Beck initially stated that he did not think FEMA Camps were real, no did they exist. After a ton of emails and some calls from listeners, he decided to check into this. I think he did not really want to really get into this subject. I know he has stated on his programs that he is looking into this and will report when he has verified proof.

Mr Beck has been doing alot of things to try to get the public to start speaking up on all the rights we are losing, and all of the socialistic nonsense that is going on. He can be a drama queen at times, but right now I think his energies are trying to awaken every one to where we are politically and where every thing is headed.

[pritchet1]

He touched on every topic discussed in this forum in the last week, last night. Good interviews.

Has anybody read his "Fusion" magazine yet?

[BroJones]

"He touched on every topic discussed in this forum in the last week, last night."

Hmmmm... maybe he reads this forum for ideas?

[pritchet1]

Or he pays attention to what is going on over on Infowars and Prisonplanet. I'm sure his 912Project keeps up with the times as well.

One day they'll stop trash-talking him over on Infowars - maybe. They think he is a "tool", pretending to be right-eous instead of left-eous.

I think that is mostly because he keeps morphing as he digs deeper and shifts opinion instead of dogmatically sticking to old news and seems to do well rolling with the punches.

Someone needs to get him into a Skousen-based Constitution course so he can get the whole picture.

[ithink]

Someone needs to get him into a Skousen-based Constitution course so he can get the whole picture.

Whatever he is doing, I would shake his hand vigorously if I had the chance. He's doing a lot of good things, and that isn't something I would have said last year.

[Mark]

I agree with you ithink. I commend Bro. Beck for his desires to educate the public about the dangers of unrighteous govt actions etc. He is to be praised for those efforts and not derided as the idiots at Infowars/Prison Planet continue to do at every turn. Those guys are very suspect in my eyes and have an agenda that just may surprise their faithful followers here. I don't trust them for a minute to be the idealistic truthseekers they proport being. They are sensationalists and will do whatever is necessary to make a buck and get attention. Sorcha Faal is probably their hero.

[pritchet1]

Why would the folks at PrisonPlanet/Infowars be attacking Glen Beck? Is it due to his LDS background? His hard-won notoriety? Or because he touches on the same subjects without being so full of himself?

If he does as Hannity and O'Reilly, then I will loose respect for him. Until then he seems to be a good egg.

[Nan]

well, I think Glenn is doing a great job and fulfilling part of his mission here on earth. (other parts being stuff that I don't know about and might not be such a public mission.) As for the other people, I have never heard of them.


I like how Mark gets invited for lunch but not the rest of us.

[firend]

I am confused,

So many people want to put Glenn Beck or Alex Jones on a pedestal. They both put out a lot of great info.

What worries me about Beck is the fact that he works for Fox news mass media. If I remember right this is the same Fox that snubbed Steven Jones about his building 7 truth. How much Beck can say certainly must be foreknown/scripted.

To many people know camps are here. Define concentration camp? A PR save your job move by Beck would be to say their is no evidence.....for what? A full running camp with the gas ready to go....or a foundation ready to be thrown together into a full camp which at this time can be considered no camp at all.

Him having that popular mechanics geru to rebuke the camps is rediculous. Popular was the same magazine that says 911 was not an inside job.

I just hope Beck would lose his job before caving. He could justify and say if i cave on one thing, but can bring out another good thing then that is ok. I say it is not ok. You never deny truth. Ofcourse I cannot judge him, so who knows what is really going on.

Alex atleast puts himself out there. He gets arrested numerous times to make a point. He takes video of Bilderberg, and much more. He has had Steven Jones speak without cutting him off like Fox did.

Is Alex an insider being Led in what to say for various purposes, who knows. I just think to many give Beck all this credit because he is Mormon. So is CFR Mitt Romney.

I appreciate both men for the truth they give, but put neither on a pedestal. I want to see both of them put their neck on the line for no profit, then we would see true colors for sure!

[LukeAir2008]

[Mark]

Why would the folks at PrisonPlanet/Infowars be attacking Glen Beck? Is it due to his LDS background? His hard-won notoriety? Or because he touches on the same subjects without being so full of himself?

Good questions Pritch. It could be a combination of all three. Who knows with these malcontents. My feeling is that you make allies with anyone out there who are fighting the battle to inform the public of all the dirty deeds we are witnessing. These guys like Jones and the lot aren't satisfied I guess unless they are getting all the glory. Perhaps they have other agenda's..

[pritchet1]

I thought it was pretty neat when he moved from CNN to Fox. However, it seems he got watered down, especially when he was on with O'Reilly advertising his initial entry.

At least he approaches the topics with humor.

[firend]

I think it is unfair to say Alex Jones wants all the glory, but not Glenn Beck

I think it is unfair to say Alex Jones is all about the money, not Glenn Beck

They both probably enjoy the fame (my opinion) and they both make a lot of money.

However, I would not blame Alex for wanting all the glory when he gets out there in public and sweats and gets arrested...what does Beck do...sit in his air-conditioned/heated studio and read his script. I would like to see Glenn Beck get out there more and sweat.

I do appreciate both of them for what they do offer however.

[Mosby]

One day they'll stop trash-talking him over on Infowars - maybe. They think he is a "tool", pretending to be right-eous instead of left-eous.

Maybe when Beck stops acting like a tool they will stop trash-talking him. The infowars crew is a bit over the top and "Black and white" in their thinking -but they have a very low tolerance for media shills and propangadists - hence the dislike for Beck.

I tuned in to Beck last week and Glenn with his typical weepy way he was talking about what a great friend Bill O'Reilly is becoming- like an older brother to him, and has taken him under his wing...... GAG..........I'm sure that will turn out well. ( maybe Beck should locate a copy of "for the strength of youth" and the value of good friends )

To be honest, I think Alex Jones and Co are just a little suspect about Bro. Beck because less than a year ago he was saying that the sort of people who post on this forum should be imprisoned or worse

Bingo! Remember that Beck also was almost as giddy as a school girl over Rudy G, Fred T, and Mitt Romney at various times last year.

Hey look- Beck's not a bad guy and like the rest of us he is trying to do his best- but when it comes to being fighter for Liberty and Freedom - he can't hold a candle to Alex Jones, (as annoying as Alex can be)

I'm still not so sure as too why LDS folks rally around him so, and defend his inability to shoot straight on things ( like Romney vs. Ron Paul) he has the same "calling" as the rest of us LDS folks have.

[Blip]

I am suspicious fo AJ. He jumps to to many conclusion. Many of the articles are over the top and full of stretched truths. I read his articles for about to months. Something is not right. I do think he brings a lot of truth in media.

Also, when someone is dealing with such forces/any they tend to be apprehensive fear in them. Even the bravest people have a little fear. He has none in regards to the NWO from what I can tell. Even people that blog are a little apprehensive about what they post. It just is not real. No worries for messing with the big boys? Is he protected? Part of me is saying that he is a paid decoy...Just an opinion, and I hope that is not true. Something very fake about it. It almost seems like an act. He is only afraid of other talk personalities like Glenn. He seems to build up the darkside to such a degree that it is hopeless and they are unbeatable. Talked up to such a point that many of his listeners have to be psyched out. They must all be prepared to crawl in a hole rather than fight. You know they got satellites than can see what you ate for breakfast this morning and genetically engineered soldiers that can jump 50 feet and lift 2000 lbs. He is a hype doctor. It is like he is hyping up a boxer before a fight trying to psyche the other fighter out. I could be wrong. I could also see the other side to where he is just trying to inform people. I don't feel the spirit with what he is doing though. It is rude to talk about someone without any real evidence, so this is just speculation from a 24 year old. Prove me otherwise. I don't listen to him.

Glenn is apprehensive and has a little fear in him. He is trying to balance things a little, always wanting to say more than he does. He is a much more of a real person. It is almost like he is under surveillance trying to get a message across. I noticed that the picture he chose to use for Osama was the fakest one you can find (the computer one). I know he is smarter than that. Look for some codes. The out spoken people of truth in the past had to get messages past the Roman gaurds. Nothing much has changed.

I don't know. That is just what I think. I don't exactly know what the motive would be for having somone like a conspiracy talk show host on the payroll, but I could think of a few uses for them.

Anyway I wouldn't completely trust either. People put to much faith in these men and not enough in the prophets. Atleast glenn gets the word out.

[Blip]

I would actually like to talk to AJ to see what he is really like.

[firend]

does anyone know Alex Jones or Glenn Beck on here. Someone should invite them on. Now that would be a hoot!

ofcourse how would we know it is really them lol

[kathyn]

I get the feeling when I watch Glenn Beck that he is becoming more and more aware of things and is trying to let us know without being too open. He has never said he's a journalist. Nevertheless, I believe he is trying to warn us the only way he can.

[2BFree]

I met Alex Jones in New York on the 5th anniversary of 9/11. I shook his hand and looked in his eyes and saw no facade. He is what he says he is. He's a flawed man as we all are but a lover of truth and a true voice against the global elite who in their own words are striving to create their utopia and to hell with our rights. Yes he can be a bit bombastic but it shows the true fire within him. I have been listening to him since 2001 and we should really take heed to what he's doing. He is a voice in the wilderness of lies and disinfo, GB being one of the perpetrators. Watch his videos, read his websites and judge him by his fruits. He is waking up a lot of people and I feel bad that people on this forum are so quick to judge. You know what the Lord has said about judging unrighteous. Please brothers and sisters open your mind and heart and see the truth from all sources. AJ can be a little hard on GB but he has reason to be since GB has said some pretty nasty things about RP followers and 911 truthers AJ asks all of his listeners not to trust him but to research it for themselves whether what he is saying is true. I've done this and can say that I haven't found anything he says to be untrue.

I am suspicious fo AJ. He jumps to to many conclusion. Many of the articles are over the top and full of stretched truths. I read his articles for about to months. Something is not right. I do think he brings a lot of truth in media.

You need to spend more time researching and listening to find the truth than a couple of weeks. He's been active in this fight for 13 years.

They are sensationalists and will do whatever is necessary to make a buck and get attention.

How can you say this when he spends all his time and money to put together very informative and professional videos and then releases them for FREE on youtube. He then almost has to beg his audience to support him by buying something from him. To me an independent person like AJ is more believable and trustworthy than someone who is supported by a multinational media conglomerate. I guess what makes me suspect of GB are the people he request on his show. One person particularly comes to mind isthis guy from Popular Mechanics after their sloppy and shameful articles they published in their magazine about the 911 truth movement. And now GB is asking HIM to "investigate/debunk" the FEMA camps?

[jonnybreeves]

AJ is a seeker of truth. These things are not complicated. Infowars has been giving him a lot of attention and has been giving him a hard time. But the fact that AJ is giving GB so much attention indicates that the broader truth movement is also anxious to see what the fruits from GB will amount to, as we are. In the meantime, however, everyone is naturally going to be very skeptical of someone as influential in the media as GB. It would be unprecedented for someone with his a voice of influence within the media to join the truth movement. No one is holding their breath, but believe me, there is a positive undertone throughout the whole movement about GB. Everyone is watching GB right now. GB is stuck in an awkward spot between delivering mainstream news to the world and discovering suppressed truths. It will be very interesting to see how this evolves.

Btw, not sure if others are aware...quite a while ago, GB discussed having read a book on Bohemian Grove and actually admits on air that the book had an influence on him. The fact that GB took the time to read a book on the Bohemian Grove indicates his open-mindedness. You will also gather from listening to this audio clip that GB uses humor and other methods of resistance to shield his personal beliefs from listeners/viewers. Notice he does not admit to knowing much about Bohemian Grove until the end of the segment. Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAdhJtGZ ... re=related

[Blip]

I am just glad I don't have much stock in either. I have put my investments in the leaders of the church and never had the feelings of such a sure foundation under my feet. Men are fickle fools. I am foolish, but even a foolish man can stand on God's solid mouth pieces.

If glenn is real I have a lot of sympathy towards him. It is not an easy thing to wake up one morning a conclude that you are in the wrong. If he wanted to fry everyone a year ago, it doesn't matter. I would have done the same and worse a few years ago. God chooses who he chooses.

If alex jones is a fraud then I hope he suffers. If not then he is one of the best men in this century. Either way, I have no stock in flesh. Because I know the weakness in man through myself and rely on something much more solid. I don't have faith in any flesh of this world. Men are just men and the good do what they can, but there is no such thing as a perfect man. A good one is to rare to notice. To the point that one could say they do not exist at all. I do love myself but I have no faith in it. I would do good if I had the power? That has proven false. Man is corruptable. Even an once of power corrupts us. You have to put your faith in laws and principles. Laws and principles are God and he is bond by them. That is why christ is such an important figure, because he meets the end of those laws for the rest of us. I don't have faith in man..they/we will always dissapoint. I like the leaders of the church because they accept themselves as flesh. They even struggle with some of their talks. Still wrestleing with the flesh to try to convey the message of the father. I don't think they have it easy. I believe they are dealing with a lot of power. Just one slip and they could crack mountains, They could crack any one of us if they wanted. And I don't believe in all that hokas pokas. I know I feel the spirit when they speak. I think many of you need to ask yourselves a few questions. I would suggest asking yourself: why you are seeking for other prophets, when you already have them?

[2BFree]

I would suggest asking yourself: why you are seeking for other prophets, when you already have them?

Blip you make some good points. We are all men with flaws and as you say even the Brethren seem to struggle with the flesh. But isn't that why we are here? To struggle with the flesh? I for one am not "looking for other prophets". I know who has the keys and who stands as an emissary for the Lord but we have also been admonished to seek out truth from all sources to expand and critically examine all thought and use the spirit to guide us to that which brings us joy. The only way we can truly be happy and find joy is if we are first free to choose. When our liberties are taken from us which is the sole purpose of Satan's existence, "to make all as miserable as himself", then we must pray to God as if everything depends on Him and fight the tyranny of evil men as if it all depends on us.

[jonnybreeves]

"The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls...and tenement halls..."