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Unclean Lips

Posted: December 14th, 2022, 10:38 am
by Pazooka
Kinda cool - an insight into what Isaiah meant when he said the following:
Woe is me! For I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
He had just had an ascension experience where he saw and spoke with God and saw heaven. Why was his first concern about his lips? I guess this was a way of describing *false teaching*. He had taught falsely, out of ignorance, and these false teachings were integrated among his society. I would think they would have had to do with the nature of God and heaven because his ascension experience immediately made him recognize the disparity...

Especially concerning the fact that he was seeing the “King” with his eyes, something the Deuteronomist editors of the scriptures and the Law said was impossible to do and live. You were supposed to be able to hear the voice of God but not see God - There shall no man see me and live (Exodus 33:20).

Re: Unclean Lips

Posted: December 14th, 2022, 11:56 am
by TheChristian
When I had newly encountered Jesus of Nazerath, I recall men saying "No man can see the face of the Lord and live"
True I thought to myself, " No carnal man can see the face of God and live, but the man filled with the Holy Ghost and thus sanctified can"
The carnal man would simply be destroyed in the glory of Gods presence, but the man filled with the Holy ghost is no longer in a carnal state, but is a new creation, strengthened, fortified, spiritually empowered, sanctified, cleansed and now fit to enter the presence of almighty God............

Isaiah was able to endure the presence of God for He was filled with Gods spirit...........Its as simple as that....

The old Hebrew writers were correct, but one can only understand their words as one attunes oneself with the very same spirit that inspired their writings.

Re: Unclean Lips

Posted: December 14th, 2022, 12:43 pm
by Pazooka
TheChristian wrote: December 14th, 2022, 11:56 am When I had newly encountered Jesus of Nazerath, I recall men saying "No man can see the face of the Lord and live"
True I thought to myself, " No carnal man can see the face of God and live, but the man filled with the Holy Ghost and thus sanctified can"
The carnal man would simply be destroyed in the glory of Gods presence, but the man filled with the Holy ghost is no longer in a carnal state, but is a new creation, strengthened, fortified, spiritually empowered, sanctified, cleansed and now fit to enter the presence of almighty God............

Isaiah was able to endure the presence of God for He was filled with Gods spirit...........Its as simple as that....

The old Hebrew writers were correct, but one can only understand their words as one attunes oneself with the very same spirit that inspired their writings.
The Deuteronomists actually taught that no man could see God, regardless of whether he had the Spirit or not. I’ve read that the idea was so dangerous to them they wouldn’t let youths read the Ezekiel vision unsupervised.