Arizona Fraudulent Midterm Elections

[nvr]

Elucidating the details of the stolen midterm election in AZ:

The leftist statists appear to have conspired and taken action to get their candidates in. Despite polling showing otherwise and massive conservative election day turnouts, democrat candidates have been declared winners in most of the key races (Senator, Governor, Sec. of State, Att. General).
Many things wrong about the whole situation.. Let's document all of it we can.

• Secretary of State Katie Hobbes, the person in charge of elections for the state, was running for governor of the state. She did not recuse herself of these duties as would be expected to avoid a conflict of interest. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ont-recuse

• Hobbs did essentially no campaigning and steadfastly refused to debate her opponent https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion ... 477719002/

• The top election officials in Maricopa county (largest county with highest # voters), the County Recorder and the Supervisor Chairman started a PAC 2021 with the stated agenda of eliminating MAGA candidates https://thepostmillennial.com/maricopa- ... candidates. Apparently, no concern at all about maintaining an impartial image.

• Mail in ballots were historically utilized for elderly, home-bound or disabled voters- it was the exception to the rule to use them. Due to precedent set following a cold season in 2020, mail-ins were sent to every registered voter (sometimes several ballots to the same address). With no in-person voting or verification at the precinct level and counting occurring out of the watchful public eye, the door was opened wide for potential fraud.

Conservative voter disenfranchisement:
A full quarter (25%) of Maricopa county tabulator machines wouldn’t read the ballots correctly . It supposedly came down to incorrect settings on the printers (not dark enough). They were fixed after technicians eventually figured out the issue and physically visited all problem sites. The printer issues were, interestingly, confined only to the most populous county, Maricopa. The machines were supposed to have had dry run tests to verify problems like this wouldn’t occur.

Facing the tabulator issue, voters given option to leave ballot in receptacle on the machine to be compiled at later time outside of their presence
Conservative voters, wary of letting their ballot out of their sight before seeing them recorded were left with few options.

1. Keep trying until the machine accepted it
2. Spoil the ballot and fill out a new one
3. Leave and try voting somewhere else hopefully with no tabulator issues
4. Put in box 3 and hope it would be accurately recorded at central office

For options 1, 2, and 3, many voters had to get back to work and didn’t have time to see if the machines eventually worked, to fill out a new ballot, or to travel someplace else where the machines were hopefully working to get their vote in. Many simply left without voting.

Others, who did try voting somewhere else, were often not able to check in at the new site: election volunteers who checked them in at the original location weren’t trained to check them out as they left. Without being checked out, they couldn’t check in and cast a vote at the new site. Many found this out after already arriving at the new site and didn't have time to go back and get properly checked out (if the workers there even knew how). Many at this point, gave up in frustration.
Several have reported leaving their ballots in box 3 and checking later on only to find out their vote wasn't recorded.

https://twitter.com/UKNeil4/status/1597287300483846147
https://twitter.com/duncan_colton/statu ... 2721082369
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1597292104211832832
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/159 ... wsrc%5Etfw

With this chaotic environment, how many were disenfranchised and never got their votes recorded? About 250,000 people voted in person in Maricopa County. If 25% of sites were having problems, as reported, and 1 out of 3 people gave up due to the tabulator issues, then, doing the math, 250,000 *.25 * .33 = a total of 20,000 people were disenfranchised. Katie Hobbs' margin of victory was only 17,173. The solution isn't a recount, as these lost votes will never show up, there needs to be a complete revote.

Also, republican party voters typically vote straight ticket. Yet Kimberly Yee, the Republican State Treasurer candidate won her race with 1.39M votes while Kari Lake received 1.27M. https://results.arizona.vote/#/state/33/0. Most other republican candidates like the Sec. of State, Attorney General, and Superintendent. Of Pub. Instruction received votes between 1.2-1.25M each. Yee as State Treasurer was nothing special and to be receiving 120,000 more votes than all other republican candidates, begs the question if there’s not something very greasy going on with the count. There's plenty of opportunity for dishonest things to happen with the switch majority mail in / provisional ballots when counting at a central tabulation center run by admitted anti-MAGA officials.

[Niemand]

Fiddled elections worldwide.

The Mafia has "hacked" democracy and they know it.

Turdeau in Canada. Ardern in NZ. The most unpopular premier of the state of Victoria in Australia gets mysteriously re-elected in a landslide victory. Brazil gets a new government composed of people formely involved in the biggest corruption scandal in Latin American history and the Brazilian public knows it.

[tmac]

True, election fraud an irregularity is nothing new, including here in the U.S.

Ten years ago I litigated a local election fraud/irregularity case in Utah. The trial court nullified and threw out the election results, and the Utah Supreme Court upheld the nullification. But the next round, they were back at it, and still are. But most people just give a big yawn, and don’t really seem to care.

[nvr]

Katie Hobbs' office was, in 2021, utilizing Twitter's progressive flag and report system to get tweets removed they didn't like. This is Katie Hobbs, Sec. of State, "the democrat candidate, who ran the AZ election, censored her political opponents, disrupted Election Day votes, and then threatened counties with prosecution if they didn’t declare her the winner."

A 2021 Twitter email shows Hobbs’ Communications Director C. Murphy Hebert “flagging” tweets and asking Twitter to remove them, which they obliged. ... Hobbs’ office was concerned about the spreading of “election misinformation.”

https://www.infowars.com/posts/bombshel ... ails-show/

I'm not sure it amounts to censuring opponents, but it goes to demonstrate the amount of respect (or lack thereof) she has for protected speech. It seems they were especially eager to clear out any details that may cast doubt on soundness of the election pipeline in the runup for 2022.

[nvr]

Finchem and Zink argued in their filing that voters were offered “weak and unsatisfying” alternatives to the machines in Maricopa County. They said the votes that were deposited in the separate box to be counted later were likely never counted.

Lake sued Hobbs and the Maricopa County recorder, board of supervisors and director of elections in their official capacities following controversies about the country’s electoral process.
...
Certain voting locations ... experienced issues with ballot printers where the ink was too light for tabulators to read. Election officials ... allow(ed) voters to wait in line until the issue was resolved, cast a ballot at another voting center or drop their ballot in a separate box to be counted later.

But Lake’s campaign argued some of the affected voters’ ballots would not be counted because of improper checkout procedures and blending of ballots. The campaign asked a state judge on Election Day to extend the voting in the county, but the judge rejected the request as he said he did not see any evidence that anyone was denied the opportunity to vote.

Lake, who has refused to concede to Hobbs, said in her lawsuit that the number of “illegal votes” cast in the race “far exceeds” the roughly 17,000-vote lead that Hobbs has. She claimed that thousands of Republican voters were disenfranchised as a result of “election misconduct” at Maricopa County.
Lake said Republicans vote at a 3 to 1 ratio over Democrats and were therefore disproportionately affected by the printer problem. She said [bthousands of Republican voters gave up on voting due to long wait times or avoided the polls after hearing of the “chaos.”[/b]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... n-results/
The lawsuits, I'm sure, will come to nothing due to corruption at key positions at all levels. I keep waiting to hear from someone with a plan to call for a massive peaceful protest once this occurs. All would, of course, need to learn about and work together to snuff out the fed Jan-6 type saboteurs that would inevitably crop up. From what I gather, conservatives here are too comfortable, unfortunately. They'll come out in droves if they can be convinced of the implications at a personal level of continual election fraud on their future. We could use some on-the-ground charismatic action-takers about now.

[Letfreedumbring]

Kari Lake was cheated in the elections.
After digging into more of her brief history, it is hard to say she wasn't the other side of the same coin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kari_Lake
Reporter for local station for 22 years then quits to run for governor.
Republican prior to 2006 then Independent 2006 then Democrat during all Obama elections.
Buddhist then suddenly Christian in 2019 before she put in her papers in 2021 (Rapid conversion)

2017 - Kari had posted on her facebook page Trump's inauguration should be a day of mourning and protest
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... auguration
2022 - Kari was saying Trump was cheated in 2020 elections while running for governor

She tried to get ASU students to hold an anti-mask rally and was anti-covid in the year before running for governor. Was she genuine or she just knows her talking points to be part of the controlled opposition? Just because she has an opponent we extremely dislike doesn't mean she is all good. Same with Trump.

[HVDC]

Kari Lake was cheated in the elections.
After digging into more of her brief history, it is hard to say she wasn't the other side of the same coin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kari_Lake
Reporter for local station for 22 years then quits to run for governor.
Republican prior to 2006 then Independent 2006 then Democrat during all Obama elections.
Buddhist then suddenly Christian in 2019 before she put in her papers in 2021 (Rapid conversion)

2017 - Kari had posted on her facebook page Trump's inauguration should be a day of mourning and protest
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... auguration
2022 - Kari was saying Trump was cheated in 2020 elections while running for governor

She tried to get ASU students to hold an anti-mask rally and was anti-covid in the year before running for governor. Was she genuine or she just knows her talking points to be part of the controlled opposition? Just because she has an opponent we extremely dislike doesn't mean she is all good. Same with Trump.

This is the kind of analysis that we need.

I suspect everyone is controlled opposition.

Until evidence suggests otherwise.

The "truth" is.

There are no good guys coming to save us.

Only bad guys in good guy masks.

Once the mask comes off.

It will be too late.

Sir H

[BroJones]

Elucidating the details of the stolen midterm election in AZ:

The leftist statists appear to have conspired and taken action to get their candidates in. Despite polling showing otherwise and massive conservative election day turnouts, democrat candidates have been declared winners in most of the key races (Senator, Governor, Sec. of State, Att. General).
Many things wrong about the whole situation.. Let's document all of it we can.

• Secretary of State Katie Hobbes, the person in charge of elections for the state, was running for governor of the state. She did not recuse herself of these duties as would be expected to avoid a conflict of interest. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ont-recuse

• Hobbs did essentially no campaigning and steadfastly refused to debate her opponent https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion ... 477719002/

• The top election officials in Maricopa county (largest county with highest # voters), the County Recorder and the Supervisor Chairman started a PAC 2021 with the stated agenda of eliminating MAGA candidates https://thepostmillennial.com/maricopa- ... candidates. Apparently, no concern at all about maintaining an impartial image.

• Mail in ballots were historically utilized for elderly, home-bound or disabled voters- it was the exception to the rule to use them. Due to precedent set following a cold season in 2020, mail-ins were sent to every registered voter (sometimes several ballots to the same address). With no in-person voting or verification at the precinct level and counting occurring out of the watchful public eye, the door was opened wide for potential fraud.

Conservative voter disenfranchisement:
A full quarter (25%) of Maricopa county tabulator machines wouldn’t read the ballots correctly . It supposedly came down to incorrect settings on the printers (not dark enough). They were fixed after technicians eventually figured out the issue and physically visited all problem sites. The printer issues were, interestingly, confined only to the most populous county, Maricopa. The machines were supposed to have had dry run tests to verify problems like this wouldn’t occur.

Facing the tabulator issue, voters given option to leave ballot in receptacle on the machine to be compiled at later time outside of their presence
Conservative voters, wary of letting their ballot out of their sight before seeing them recorded were left with few options.

1. Keep trying until the machine accepted it
2. Spoil the ballot and fill out a new one
3. Leave and try voting somewhere else hopefully with no tabulator issues
4. Put in box 3 and hope it would be accurately recorded at central office

For options 1, 2, and 3, many voters had to get back to work and didn’t have time to see if the machines eventually worked, to fill out a new ballot, or to travel someplace else where the machines were hopefully working to get their vote in. Many simply left without voting.

Others, who did try voting somewhere else, were often not able to check in at the new site: election volunteers who checked them in at the original location weren’t trained to check them out as they left. Without being checked out, they couldn’t check in and cast a vote at the new site. Many found this out after already arriving at the new site and didn't have time to go back and get properly checked out (if the workers there even knew how). Many at this point, gave up in frustration.
Several have reported leaving their ballots in box 3 and checking later on only to find out their vote wasn't recorded.

https://twitter.com/UKNeil4/status/1597287300483846147
https://twitter.com/duncan_colton/statu ... 2721082369
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1597292104211832832
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/159 ... wsrc%5Etfw

With this chaotic environment, how many were disenfranchised and never got their votes recorded? About 250,000 people voted in person in Maricopa County. If 25% of sites were having problems, as reported, and 1 out of 3 people gave up due to the tabulator issues, then, doing the math, 250,000 *.25 * .33 = a total of 20,000 people were disenfranchised. Katie Hobbs' margin of victory was only 17,173. The solution isn't a recount, as these lost votes will never show up, there needs to be a complete revote.

Also, republican party voters typically vote straight ticket. Yet Kimberly Yee, the Republican State Treasurer candidate won her race with 1.39M votes while Kari Lake received 1.27M. https://results.arizona.vote/#/state/33/0. Most other republican candidates like the Sec. of State, Attorney General, and Superintendent. Of Pub. Instruction received votes between 1.2-1.25M each. Yee as State Treasurer was nothing special and to be receiving 120,000 more votes than all other republican candidates, begs the question if there’s not something very greasy going on with the count. There's plenty of opportunity for dishonest things to happen with the switch majority mail in / provisional ballots when counting at a central tabulation center run by admitted anti-MAGA officials.

1. "With no in-person voting or verification at the precinct level " Would you explain this?

2. Is there ANY hope for a RE_VOTE? or some way to remedy the obvious questions? Clearly many are losing trust in the integrity of the voting system in Arizona.

[NeveR]

Surely most thinking people long ago lost trust in the integrity of the voting system everywhere.

How many rigged, fixed, "stolen" elections does it take?

[nvr]

Kari Lake was cheated in the elections.
After digging into more of her brief history, it is hard to say she wasn't the other side of the same coin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kari_Lake
Reporter for local station for 22 years then quits to run for governor.
Republican prior to 2006 then Independent 2006 then Democrat during all Obama elections.
Buddhist then suddenly Christian in 2019 before she put in her papers in 2021 (Rapid conversion)

2017 - Kari had posted on her facebook page Trump's inauguration should be a day of mourning and protest
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... auguration
2022 - Kari was saying Trump was cheated in 2020 elections while running for governor

She tried to get ASU students to hold an anti-mask rally and was anti-covid in the year before running for governor. Was she genuine or she just knows her talking points to be part of the controlled opposition? Just because she has an opponent we extremely dislike doesn't mean she is all good. Same with Trump.

Norm McDonald gave an accurate explanation for the love / hate thing most people felt for Trump circa 2016 in explaining how Trump could have gotten elected, “voters hated Hillary so much, they voted for someone they hated even worse “.
My wife also, like many, “held her nose” when she voted for Trump.

Obama was presenting himself as this constitutional scholar who said a lot of the right things like America should get out of the Middle East, which, in 2008, was refreshing coming out of 8 years with George W and the wars in Iraq/ Afghanistan. To a lot of classical liberals and some anti-war paleo conservatives he looked pretty good going into it. They were later disappointed.

[HVDC]

Kari Lake was cheated in the elections.
After digging into more of her brief history, it is hard to say she wasn't the other side of the same coin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kari_Lake
Reporter for local station for 22 years then quits to run for governor.
Republican prior to 2006 then Independent 2006 then Democrat during all Obama elections.
Buddhist then suddenly Christian in 2019 before she put in her papers in 2021 (Rapid conversion)

2017 - Kari had posted on her facebook page Trump's inauguration should be a day of mourning and protest
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... auguration
2022 - Kari was saying Trump was cheated in 2020 elections while running for governor

She tried to get ASU students to hold an anti-mask rally and was anti-covid in the year before running for governor. Was she genuine or she just knows her talking points to be part of the controlled opposition? Just because she has an opponent we extremely dislike doesn't mean she is all good. Same with Trump.

Norm McDonald gave an accurate explanation for the love / hate thing most people felt for Trump circa 2016 in explaining how Trump could have gotten elected, “voters hated Hillary so much, they voted for someone they hated even worse “.
My wife also, like many, “held her nose” when she voted for Trump.

Obama was presenting himself as this constitutional scholar who said a lot of the right things like America should get out of the Middle East, which, in 2008, was refreshing coming out of 8 years with George W and the wars in Iraq/ Afghanistan. To a lot of classical liberals and some anti-war paleo conservatives he looked pretty good going into it. They were later disappointed.

Not accurate at all.

Maybe some people pinched their noses.

But those folks didn't fill the stadiums.

He was very popular.

And still is in some circles.

Undeservedly so.

In my opinion.

Obama was chosen to be President.

Elected with a combination of White Guilt and fraud.

Sir H

[nvr]

Elucidating the details of the stolen midterm election in AZ:

The leftist statists appear to have conspired and taken action to get their candidates in. Despite polling showing otherwise and massive conservative election day turnouts, democrat candidates have been declared winners in most of the key races (Senator, Governor, Sec. of State, Att. General).
Many things wrong about the whole situation.. Let's document all of it we can.

• Secretary of State Katie Hobbes, the person in charge of elections for the state, was running for governor of the state. She did not recuse herself of these duties as would be expected to avoid a conflict of interest. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ont-recuse

• Hobbs did essentially no campaigning and steadfastly refused to debate her opponent https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion ... 477719002/

• The top election officials in Maricopa county (largest county with highest # voters), the County Recorder and the Supervisor Chairman started a PAC 2021 with the stated agenda of eliminating MAGA candidates https://thepostmillennial.com/maricopa- ... candidates. Apparently, no concern at all about maintaining an impartial image.

• Mail in ballots were historically utilized for elderly, home-bound or disabled voters- it was the exception to the rule to use them. Due to precedent set following a cold season in 2020, mail-ins were sent to every registered voter (sometimes several ballots to the same address). With no in-person voting or verification at the precinct level and counting occurring out of the watchful public eye, the door was opened wide for potential fraud.

Conservative voter disenfranchisement:
A full quarter (25%) of Maricopa county tabulator machines wouldn’t read the ballots correctly . It supposedly came down to incorrect settings on the printers (not dark enough). They were fixed after technicians eventually figured out the issue and physically visited all problem sites. The printer issues were, interestingly, confined only to the most populous county, Maricopa. The machines were supposed to have had dry run tests to verify problems like this wouldn’t occur.

Facing the tabulator issue, voters given option to leave ballot in receptacle on the machine to be compiled at later time outside of their presence
Conservative voters, wary of letting their ballot out of their sight before seeing them recorded were left with few options.

1. Keep trying until the machine accepted it
2. Spoil the ballot and fill out a new one
3. Leave and try voting somewhere else hopefully with no tabulator issues
4. Put in box 3 and hope it would be accurately recorded at central office

For options 1, 2, and 3, many voters had to get back to work and didn’t have time to see if the machines eventually worked, to fill out a new ballot, or to travel someplace else where the machines were hopefully working to get their vote in. Many simply left without voting.

Others, who did try voting somewhere else, were often not able to check in at the new site: election volunteers who checked them in at the original location weren’t trained to check them out as they left. Without being checked out, they couldn’t check in and cast a vote at the new site. Many found this out after already arriving at the new site and didn't have time to go back and get properly checked out (if the workers there even knew how). Many at this point, gave up in frustration.
Several have reported leaving their ballots in box 3 and checking later on only to find out their vote wasn't recorded.

https://twitter.com/UKNeil4/status/1597287300483846147
https://twitter.com/duncan_colton/statu ... 2721082369
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1597292104211832832
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/159 ... wsrc%5Etfw

With this chaotic environment, how many were disenfranchised and never got their votes recorded? About 250,000 people voted in person in Maricopa County. If 25% of sites were having problems, as reported, and 1 out of 3 people gave up due to the tabulator issues, then, doing the math, 250,000 *.25 * .33 = a total of 20,000 people were disenfranchised. Katie Hobbs' margin of victory was only 17,173. The solution isn't a recount, as these lost votes will never show up, there needs to be a complete revote.

Also, republican party voters typically vote straight ticket. Yet Kimberly Yee, the Republican State Treasurer candidate won her race with 1.39M votes while Kari Lake received 1.27M. https://results.arizona.vote/#/state/33/0. Most other republican candidates like the Sec. of State, Attorney General, and Superintendent. Of Pub. Instruction received votes between 1.2-1.25M each. Yee as State Treasurer was nothing special and to be receiving 120,000 more votes than all other republican candidates, begs the question if there’s not something very greasy going on with the count. There's plenty of opportunity for dishonest things to happen with the switch majority mail in / provisional ballots when counting at a central tabulation center run by admitted anti-MAGA officials.

1. "With no in-person voting or verification at the precinct level " Would you explain this?

2. Is there ANY hope for a RE_VOTE? or some way to remedy the obvious questions? Clearly many are losing trust in the integrity of the voting system in Arizona.

1. Sorry, that wasn't very clear. What I meant was that Arizona went from default in-person voting at precincts, with mail-in ballots sent out only upon a voter's request to, starting in 2020, default mail-in ballots where nearly everyone was sent a ballot. Mail-in ballots require only signature verification, which has been shown to be poorly enforced. A local radio host recounted how he'd received 6 total ballots to his address. With so many extra ballots floating around and minimal validation, the institution of in-person precinct voting with ID checks has effectively been abolished and supplanted.
2. Yes, I think revote is the only viable solution. A recount would not account for those thousands of disenfranchised voters who left off voting after facing the delays from the machines or of switching locations compounded with all the issues from not being checked out properly. It's upsetting that few are talking about this. The local Bonneville-owned KTAR radio hosts either joke about the loony election deniers at one end or talk about moving on and accepting this inevitable defeat at the other. It's been hard to find a forum for like-minded Arizonans to share info and discuss action.

[nvr]

Kari Lake was cheated in the elections.
After digging into more of her brief history, it is hard to say she wasn't the other side of the same coin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kari_Lake
Reporter for local station for 22 years then quits to run for governor.
Republican prior to 2006 then Independent 2006 then Democrat during all Obama elections.
Buddhist then suddenly Christian in 2019 before she put in her papers in 2021 (Rapid conversion)

2017 - Kari had posted on her facebook page Trump's inauguration should be a day of mourning and protest
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... auguration
2022 - Kari was saying Trump was cheated in 2020 elections while running for governor

She tried to get ASU students to hold an anti-mask rally and was anti-covid in the year before running for governor. Was she genuine or she just knows her talking points to be part of the controlled opposition? Just because she has an opponent we extremely dislike doesn't mean she is all good. Same with Trump.

Norm McDonald gave an accurate explanation for the love / hate thing most people felt for Trump circa 2016 in explaining how Trump could have gotten elected, “voters hated Hillary so much, they voted for someone they hated even worse “.
My wife also, like many, “held her nose” when she voted for Trump.

Obama was presenting himself as this constitutional scholar who said a lot of the right things like America should get out of the Middle East, which, in 2008, was refreshing coming out of 8 years with George W and the wars in Iraq/ Afghanistan. To a lot of classical liberals and some anti-war paleo conservatives he looked pretty good going into it. They were later disappointed.

Not accurate at all.

Maybe some people pinched their noses.

But those folks didn't fill the stadiums.

He was very popular.

And still is in some circles.

Undeservedly so.

In my opinion.

Obama was chosen to be President.

Elected with a combination of White Guilt and fraud.

Sir H

His populist appeal easily drew in the hard-core republicans. The surprise was that he brought in so many moderates. These where those holding their noses, who couldn't stand the idea of seeing Hillary as president.
Obama promised ending wars and was an apparent breath of fresh air compared to Bush's admin. Even Alex Jones admitted he'd held out some hope things would be better when Obama came into office. Yes, from what I remember, it sounds like there was fraud involved there as well, at least in terms of his birth certificate (where, in the long-form PDF they finally released, it still showed multiple layers left from someone forgetting to flatten it before saving in Adobe Acrobat).

[BroJones]

Is there any hope for a re-VOTE or a re-COUNT of valid ballots, in Arizona?
I doubt it.

Perhaps the best they can do is to stop feeding the Gadiantons (3 Nephi style attrition).

[gkearney]

I'm not sure I buy into the whole rigged election thing, but there may be another approach being taken.

Consider this, if you wanted to suppress the Republican/conservative vote one way to do so would be to propagate a narrative that the electoral process was rigged against that vote. The voters of that group will start to feel like there is no reason to vote at all and stay home. This has the effect of amplifying to vote for the opposing side.

No need for elaborate conspiracies, no need for rigging voting machines, no need for any of that. Simply convince your opponents that the elections are unfair and they will, of their own accord, stay away from the polls on election day. It's called voter suppression and will be far more effective and involve far less work than some of the Machiavellian plots that have been presented here.

In these forums we have already seen examples of people saying they have given up voting, I would suggest this is exactly what some political operatives want them to do.

[lundbaek]

From my own participation in the 2020 election audit and further investigations, I now believe that "The lawsuits, I'm sure, will come to nothing due to corruption at key positions at all levels."

[Great8]

I am willing to follow what Pierre Delecto wants to do. He is inspired in his work.

[HVDC]

I am willing to follow what Pierre Delecto wants to do. He is inspired in his work.

And he makes a joyful noise.

Sir H

[Craig Johnson]

Do not believe in partisans they will only continue to disappoint you.

[BroJones]

If anyone can do it, I think Kari Lake plus whistleblowers might succeed.
Praying.
Here's a report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dJE1PNCtBQ

[lundbaek]

Updates currently on worldaffairsbrief.com and on thegatewaypundit.com

[nvr]

https://www.uncoverdc.com/2022/12/12/analysis-kari-lake-files-az-election-integrity-lawsuit/

A few significant points from the lawsuit:
1. Printers and tabulators failed at more than 59% of Maricopa County voting centers
- as election day voters in Maricopa favored Lake for Governer by a 3:1 ratio, those deterred from voting would have given Lake a "material gain of votes that could have changed the outcome of the race".

2. Affidavits from two hundred twenty-one poll workers, observers, and voters who witnessed issues at Maricopa County polling locations reported on issues like:
- 20-30% ballot signature rejection rates (~15-20K ballots) determined at first level process, which when these ballots were sent to the next level of reviewers the following day, the number of ballots appearing for review somehow shrink down to only 1-2% (~1000 ballots). The only explanation was, from one verifiers affidavit:

"level 2 manager who re-reviewed the rejections of the level 1 workers were reversing and approving signatures that the level 1 workers excepted and rejected...If this is the case, then the level 2 managers were changing about 90% of the rejected signatures to accepted.

-- Most of the level 2 managers were not subject to accountability of observers.
- Managers directed large batches (5-7000 ballots) which had been rejected 3 times at levels 1, 2 and 3, to be sent through again in an apparent desperate effort to get them approved
- Mass hand outs of "approved" curing stickers to signature reviews who could un-reject ballots without accountability. Workers were handed a large amount of stickers and attached them without observers present. Workers were instructed to not sign them but to simply date them, preventing any accountability.

3. Third party contractor, Star Center, who was used to cure ballots did so without any observers present at Star Center

4. Tabulated and untabulated ballots from excess ballots deposited in door 3 were mingled due to insufficient room in dedicated door 3 bags leading to potential improper or double counts

5. As same-day voters were made up of 3:1 republicans, long lines from machine issues lead to disproportionate voter disenfranchisement

6. Whistleblower from key election vendor stepped forward on record to say there was no chain of custody for nearly 300 thousand votes.
Many other points highlighted in article.

[NeveR]

But we've been here before! Remember all the hope invested in the challenges etc over the obviously fraudulent 2020 election?

Can you all please consider the possibility this is an intentional energy sink? A little drama engineered to keep you invested in the system -- like so much going on these days.

If they keep dangling the mirage of justice in front of us we'll keep playing along - hoping for victory in some always future time. Keeps us quiet while they finish off our Great Reset prison.

[nvr]

But we've been here before! Remember all the hope invested in the challenges etc over the obviously fraudulent 2020 election?

Can you all please consider the possibility this is an intentional energy sink? A little drama engineered to keep you invested in the system -- like so much going on these days.

If they keep dangling the mirage of justice in front of us we'll keep playing along - hoping for victory in some always future time. Keeps us quiet while they finish off our Great Reset prison.

It this doesn't go to trial, protests are next. Spending time fighting for the republic is time better spent that articulating the finer points of flat earth theory or what a shill poster might have been alluding to in a 75 page year-old thread, in my opinion.

[NeveR]

But we've been here before! Remember all the hope invested in the challenges etc over the obviously fraudulent 2020 election?

Can you all please consider the possibility this is an intentional energy sink? A little drama engineered to keep you invested in the system -- like so much going on these days.

If they keep dangling the mirage of justice in front of us we'll keep playing along - hoping for victory in some always future time. Keeps us quiet while they finish off our Great Reset prison.

It this doesn't go to trial, protests are next. Spending time fighting for the republic is time better spent that articulating the finer points of flat earth theory or what a shill poster might have been alluding to in a 75 page year-old thread, in my opinion.

Not sure if you are sniping at me in ref to the flat earth question, but I certainly am not advocating for a flat earth, quite the reverse. I'm highly skeptical of the entire thing.

I agree that "spending time fighting for the Republic" is valuable - but the whole thrust of my point is the possibility that standing on the sidelines waiting for distant entities to roll out legal challenges etc is actually the very opposite of fighting for anything - it's inaction, possibly deliberately induced inaction, predicated on a hope that the system is not hopelessly corrupt.

See, as I see it, society is currently controlled by the Gads, and in order for that control to be maintained it requires as much investment from humanity as possible.

The Gads need to keep us believing in the possibility of change and reform on their terms, from within the current society so we will continue to pay the Gads taxes, work our often pointless or destructive jobs, buy our GMO food in the Gad-owned multinational stores. -

They need to keep that dream of change and justice alive in us to stop us opting out.

The last thing they want is for us to genuinely start fighting - personally, ourselves. Rather they want us to delegate our fight to the Gad-controlled "opposition", who have always failed to deliver and always will.

I am thinking more and more that the only way to truly fight for the original ideals of our Republic is to free our minds from the delusions the Gads spin for us. ALL of the delusions.

We might never take back physical control of government until the great reckoning happens - in fact I think we won't. But I think the current struggle is one of individuals to free ourselves internally and spiritually from Gad lies and delusions. To face the awful reality of our awful situation without the need for false hope.

I think that's the only way we can become people really capable of ushering in a new age of justice.

Anyhow that's just me, but it's the motivation behind me saying much of what I say on here (and to my family).