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For those wanting more information, I found these few threads related to arguments brought up on this thread:

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t52-satell ... -not-exist

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t400-debun ... ng-physics

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t189-earth-is-not-a-planet

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JohnnyL wrote: May 31st, 2023, 11:30 am For those wanting more information, I found these few threads related to arguments brought up on this thread:

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t52-satell ... -not-exist

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t400-debun ... ng-physics

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t189-earth-is-not-a-planet
The math is strong with these mortals. Too strong.

The funny thing is that celestial navigation doesn't need the scientific globe theory whatsoever.

Circumnavigate antarctica for the globe.

When planes rely on gps, they go "LOST" and Amelie E. also went "lost" relying on human made "Maps".

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:idea: Hmmm… interesting?

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JohnnyL wrote: May 31st, 2023, 11:30 am For those wanting more information, I found these few threads related to arguments brought up on this thread:

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t52-satell ... -not-exist

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t400-debun ... ng-physics

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t189-earth-is-not-a-planet
Not going to bother with "Satellites Do Not Exist!" and "The Earth Is Not A Planet!" because I honestly don't know where I would even begin, the arguments are such gibberish.

But "Debunking Star and Planet Distances Using Physics" is easy to refute because they are measuring the wrong thing. They do all this math about the size of stars, and how they aren't big enough to resolve with the human eye at their supposed distances, all of which is true. But we don't see stars by resolving their sizes, we see them via the brilliance of their light output.

It's the same way a marble is too small to see from a mile away, but you can see a candle flame or an LED. Has nothing to do with how big they are, everything to do with how bright they shine.

That's why if you look at a star chart, they are listed by their magnitudes, not their sizes.

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But, but, but.... Stars are flat too. Didn't you know? And, the reason some are brighter than others is because what if a star presents it's edge towards us instead of the great big flat side?

"Star light, star bright, how flat are you tonight?"

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captainfearnot wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 9:45 am Not going to bother with "Satellites Do Not Exist!"
They do exist, but that is not what they are trying to say, however well or poorly the statements are articulated.

Satellites as equipment exist and they do transmit line of sight data. They just aren't true satellites in orbit, they are much lower. I watched a documentary about the company that had the government contract to send up dozens every day, all attached to weather balloons. They said they can do it 1/100th the cost of an actual satellite in orbit. They even showed how they use the different jet streams to position them to blanket the planet. They don't say but it is implied rather conclusively that there would be no need for anything to be higher than these balloons, because they basically can do it all.

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varnaj42 wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 10:19 am But, but, but.... Stars are flat too. Didn't you know? And, the reason some are brighter than others is because what if a star presents it's edge towards us instead of the great big flat side?

"Star light, star bright, how flat are you tonight?"
I see this is the first time you've thought about these things. The balls on a pool table being round wouldn't make the pool table round.

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Look up somno luminescent. Star in a jar water.
varnaj42 wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 10:19 am But, but, but.... Stars are flat too. Didn't you know? And, the reason some are brighter than others is because what if a star presents it's edge towards us instead of the great big flat side?

"Star light, star bright, how flat are you tonight?"

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Ymarsakar wrote: May 31st, 2023, 2:16 pm
JohnnyL wrote: May 31st, 2023, 11:30 am For those wanting more information, I found these few threads related to arguments brought up on this thread:

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t52-satell ... -not-exist

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t400-debun ... ng-physics

https://ifers.forumotion.com/t189-earth-is-not-a-planet
The math is strong with these mortals. Too strong.

The funny thing is that celestial navigation doesn't need the scientific globe theory whatsoever.

Circumnavigate antarctica for the globe.

When planes rely on gps, they go "LOST" and Amelie E. also went "lost" relying on human made "Maps".
I know nothing about this but I heard that Amelia Earhart got lost as you say by using regular maps but she uncovered too much and would not keep quiet. So she went "lost"

The other person flying was transatlantic Charles Lindbergh but he was willing to go along with it. He became world famous Lucky Lindy and featured as Time Magazine Person of the Year. Some people suspect his son who went missing was something of a more sinister nature maybe even as payment. Despite a man picking up the ransom money the child's remains were found in the woods not far from the Lindbergh home.

http://www.charleslindbergh.com/kidnap/

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Shawn Henry wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 11:10 am
varnaj42 wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 10:19 am But, but, but.... Stars are flat too. Didn't you know? And, the reason some are brighter than others is because what if a star presents it's edge towards us instead of the great big flat side?

"Star light, star bright, how flat are you tonight?"
I see this is the first time you've thought about these things. The balls on a pool table being round wouldn't make the pool table round.
You see? How, exactly, did that happen? For your opinion I have been giving and taking, and having lots of fun, with flat Earthers since the early 1950s when I first heard of such things. That bunch doesn't really believe in a flat Earth. They just have fun with the idea. It's kind of like a escape mechanism from the harsh realities of living in this craxy mixed up (saying from the early 1950s) world.
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Re: Flat Earth: The 10,000 Dollar Baller Challenge

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The 10,000 Dollar Baller Challenge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4OGSbaQ5jI If anyone can actually prove the earth is a spinning ball then prove it and grab this $10,000 dollar challenge. This challenge has been out for over 2 years and no one has been able to claim it. Flat Earth Dave will also give you 3 bitcoins, (over $27,000) to come forward with this amazing proof. Put up or shut up! The fact is, there is absolutely no proof of the spinning globe we have all been brainwashed to believe since birth. Prove otherwise! You will be famous.

I haven't read all of the posts here on flat earth. If this has been brought up before I would sure like to see the proof of the spinning ball and show me the money. Thanks!

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Fred wrote: November 25th, 2022, 2:21 pm This guy has a certain attitude. Hope you like it.
Nice!
There is no flat earth, only flat brains.

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I've only been accused of being a flat earther once. That isn't why I started this thread. One of my daughters is a flat earther. So I hoped to find someone smarter than me that could provide a definitive answer. There have been a few attempts, but no one has closed the deal, either way. I took pilot lessons as a teenager and wondered why some pilot didn't just come forward and say I have flown across both poles and the earth is round. I figured it must be a waste of time like convincing someone about santa claus.

I watch videos about aircraft from time to time. I have watched 74Gear many times. I trust the guy. Maybe I shouldn't. Anyway, he may be a joker, but he isn't a liar.

Watch this 10 second clip and tell me what you think: https://utahpatriots.org/downloads/74ge ... -round.mp4

Here is the unedited version: https://youtu.be/qgqc9kMFvzk

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Obeone wrote: June 4th, 2023, 8:54 am
Fred wrote: November 25th, 2022, 2:21 pm This guy has a certain attitude. Hope you like it.
Nice!
There is no flat earth, only flat brains.
I watched this with my wife. All points he mentioned are disproved on Flat Earth Dave's site. I watched Professor Dave debate flat earth Dave. Professor Dave mostly ridiculed and called him names. It was not a debate at all. It is what those who do not tell the truth do, call names and ridicule. If he could actually prove curvature of the earth he could claim the reward money I mentioned above. His arguments against seeing things farther than the curvature would allow are totally bogus. He is definitely a disinformation agent of the globalists. He makes similar arguments in favor of evolution. If you really think we evolved from monkeys, then by all means keep watching him. We are either men or monkeys, and the decision lies within us. Who do we choose to believe?

Here is what some followers of Christ have to say about the globe debate that blows globalists arguments out of the water:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfUY68D3jgk

In this video they bring up most of the best arguments for the globe by the globalists themselves, and show you how bogus they are. You can see right through the globe lies if you actually want to know the truth.

The lies and disinformation we have been taught our whole lives are totally spelled out here. It is far easier to tell someone a lie than it is to convince them they have been lied to their whole life.

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Fred wrote: June 4th, 2023, 11:42 am I've only been accused of being a flat earther once. That isn't why I started this thread. One of my daughters is a flat earther. So I hoped to find someone smarter than me that could provide a definitive answer. There have been a few attempts, but no one has closed the deal, either way. I took pilot lessons as a teenager and wondered why some pilot didn't just come forward and say I have flown across both poles and the earth is round. I figured it must be a waste of time like convincing someone about santa claus.

I watch videos about aircraft from time to time. I have watched 74Gear many times. I trust the guy. Maybe I shouldn't. Anyway, he may be a joker, but he isn't a liar.

Watch this 10 second clip and tell me what you think: https://utahpatriots.org/downloads/74ge ... -round.mp4

Here is the unedited version: https://youtu.be/qgqc9kMFvzk
So he just admits the world being round is a lie?

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RTStone wrote: June 4th, 2023, 5:22 pm
Fred wrote: June 4th, 2023, 11:42 am I've only been accused of being a flat earther once. That isn't why I started this thread. One of my daughters is a flat earther. So I hoped to find someone smarter than me that could provide a definitive answer. There have been a few attempts, but no one has closed the deal, either way. I took pilot lessons as a teenager and wondered why some pilot didn't just come forward and say I have flown across both poles and the earth is round. I figured it must be a waste of time like convincing someone about santa claus.

I watch videos about aircraft from time to time. I have watched 74Gear many times. I trust the guy. Maybe I shouldn't. Anyway, he may be a joker, but he isn't a liar.

Watch this 10 second clip and tell me what you think: https://utahpatriots.org/downloads/74ge ... -round.mp4

Here is the unedited version: https://youtu.be/qgqc9kMFvzk
So he just admits the world being round is a lie?
I commented on his YT page but he may never answer. None of the other comments on the video mentioned round or flat earth that I saw. I only looked at a hundred or so.

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varnaj42 wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 3:54 pm You see? How, exactly, did that happen? For your opinion I have been giving and taking, and having lots of fun, with flat Earthers since the early 1950s when I first heard of such things. That bunch doesn't really believe in a flat Earth. They just have fun with the idea. It's kind of like a escape mechanism from the harsh realities of living in this craxy mixed up (saying from the early 1950s) world.
You're referring to the flat earth society, they are a shill organization, crafted specifically to distract by claiming dumb stuff like the earth is moving upwards at 9.8 meters per second squared and that is how they explain gravity.

Ever since the flat earth movement started in 2015, everyone involved has disavowed that group and called them out as controlled opposition. Point number two that you are very new to this.

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I am sorry Flat Earth theory still has more depth than the explanation that God is testing us by seeing if we will inject poison.

If there was a flat earth that would mean NASA/other agencies would have to be configuring all the software to make it feel like a globe earth. But that is impossible! They have been spending all their time getting to the moon with space shuttles utilizing the technology of a HP Financial Calculator and then forgetting how we did it.

Time to put this former mainframe that fits into my pocket away.

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Shawn Henry wrote: June 4th, 2023, 7:21 pm
varnaj42 wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 3:54 pm You see? How, exactly, did that happen? For your opinion I have been giving and taking, and having lots of fun, with flat Earthers since the early 1950s when I first heard of such things. That bunch doesn't really believe in a flat Earth. They just have fun with the idea. It's kind of like a escape mechanism from the harsh realities of living in this craxy mixed up (saying from the early 1950s) world.
You're referring to the flat earth society, they are a shill organization, crafted specifically to distract by claiming dumb stuff like the earth is moving upwards at 9.8 meters per second squared and that is how they explain gravity.

Ever since the flat earth movement started in 2015, everyone involved has disavowed that group and called them out as controlled opposition. Point number two that you are very new to this.
Maybe I was. Back in ' 53 I was only 12. We didn't have the internet of course. We had comic books and science fiction adventure magazines. I used to lose myself in their stories. Perhaps I am referring to the flat Earth society. Perhaps. But it matters not except to those of us who seem to always have a need to speak with authority.

Flat Earthers, no matter their true beliefs, are fun. I don't give a patootie what they're called or whether or not they are sincere. It beats the $#!% out of getting dragged down by the concerns of the day. I would much rather pretend to be serious about flat Earth than I would pretend that woke culture is the way to our future. It sure as hell is not.

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Subcomandante wrote: November 25th, 2022, 7:21 pm
Pazooka wrote: November 25th, 2022, 4:46 pm
Fred wrote: November 25th, 2022, 2:21 pm This guy has a certain attitude. Hope you like it.
I couldn’t stomach more than 26 seconds of this video. Is this the quality of discourse we’re at?
The tone is condescending, I will give you that.

But I don't see a single thing that he said in the video that was incorrect.
The professor Daves are plentiful in Mormon culture. Until someone knows you love and care about them, they don't care about what you have to say, whether right or not. Jesus had an example that Professor Dave could learn from.
https://youtu.be/zPedyYfcei0
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U r right they did not really believe. 2015 that changed.
varnaj42 wrote: June 4th, 2023, 8:24 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: June 4th, 2023, 7:21 pm
varnaj42 wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 3:54 pm You see? How, exactly, did that happen? For your opinion I have been giving and taking, and having lots of fun, with flat Earthers since the early 1950s when I first heard of such things. That bunch doesn't really believe in a flat Earth. They just have fun with the idea. It's kind of like a escape mechanism from the harsh realities of living in this craxy mixed up (saying from the early 1950s) world.
You're referring to the flat earth society, they are a shill organization, crafted specifically to distract by claiming dumb stuff like the earth is moving upwards at 9.8 meters per second squared and that is how they explain gravity.

Ever since the flat earth movement started in 2015, everyone involved has disavowed that group and called them out as controlled opposition. Point number two that you are very new to this.
Maybe I was. Back in ' 53 I was only 12. We didn't have the internet of course. We had comic books and science fiction adventure magazines. I used to lose myself in their stories. Perhaps I am referring to the flat Earth society. Perhaps. But it matters not except to those of us who seem to always have a need to speak with authority.

Flat Earthers, no matter their true beliefs, are fun. I don't give a patootie what they're called or whether or not they are sincere. It beats the $#!% out of getting dragged down by the concerns of the day. I would much rather pretend to be serious about flat Earth than I would pretend that woke culture is the way to our future. It sure as hell is not.

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Watching few min in. I was present when dave went from banning fe theorists to becoming 1. Hilarious transition in 2017 or 2018 ish.

Dave is a joo btw hence the name and his iq seems boosted above average. But he was not teligious unyil fe.

The ytube link only works on the random digits. U have to cut the website stuff out and only paste the random letters.

That video is very entertaining.

Dave has high stamina. He has been doing this since 2017. That is long time now.

I have his fearth app by blue watrr bay. Very nice. 1usd per month charity for him.
edavid wrote: June 4th, 2023, 10:57 pm
Subcomandante wrote: November 25th, 2022, 7:21 pm
Pazooka wrote: November 25th, 2022, 4:46 pm

I couldn’t stomach more than 26 seconds of this video. Is this the quality of discourse we’re at?
The tone is condescending, I will give you that.

But I don't see a single thing that he said in the video that was incorrect.
The professor Daves are plentiful in Mormon culture. Until someone knows you love and care about them, they don't care about what you have to say, whether right or not. Jesus had an example that Professor Dave could learn from.
https://youtu.be/zPedyYfcei0
[youtube]https://youtu.be/zPedyYfcei0[/youtube] <-- how to make this work for noobies?

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Trying to get a definitive answer on mrna in 2021 was hopeless. And u want one on a divine artifact?

Unrealistic. Mortal minds are not designed to be given answers on these topics. It is another test.

Looking for authorities to vopy an answer wont work. This test only allows authentic results anf answers from the user s heart and hanfs
Fred wrote: June 4th, 2023, 11:42 am I've only been accused of being a flat earther once. That isn't why I started this thread. One of my daughters is a flat earther. So I hoped to find someone smarter than me that could provide a definitive answer. There have been a few attempts, but no one has closed the deal, either way. I took pilot lessons as a teenager and wondered why some pilot didn't just come forward and say I have flown across both poles and the earth is round. I figured it must be a waste of time like convincing someone about santa claus.

I watch videos about aircraft from time to time. I have watched 74Gear many times. I trust the guy. Maybe I shouldn't. Anyway, he may be a joker, but he isn't a liar.

Watch this 10 second clip and tell me what you think: https://utahpatriots.org/downloads/74ge ... -round.mp4

Here is the unedited version: https://youtu.be/qgqc9kMFvzk

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Shawn Henry wrote: June 4th, 2023, 7:21 pm You're referring to the flat earth society, they are a shill organization, crafted specifically to distract by claiming dumb stuff like the earth is moving upwards at 9.8 meters per second squared and that is how they explain gravity.

Ever since the flat earth movement started in 2015, everyone involved has disavowed that group and called them out as controlled opposition. Point number two that you are very new to this.
It's just like a religion. Every Flat Earther believes in a different Flat Earth, and has as much (or more) disdain for the other flavors of Flat Earthiness as they do for globalism. Meanwhile the globers have but one globe.
Voltaire wrote:EVERY sect, in whatever sphere, is the rallying-point of doubt and error. Scotist, Thomist, Realist, Nominalist, Papist, Calvinist, Molinist, Jansenist, are only pseudonyms.

There are no sects in geometry; one does not speak of a Euclidian, an Archimedean.

When the truth is evident, it is impossible for parties and factions to arise. Never has there been a dispute as to whether there is daylight at noon.

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captainfearnot wrote: June 5th, 2023, 1:50 pm It's just like a religion. Every Flat Earther believes in a different Flat Earth, and has as much (or more) disdain for the other flavors of Flat Earthiness as they do for globalism. Meanwhile the globers have but one globe.
That's complete rubbish! The FE community is, for the most part, quite united. It's not at all like a religion, they are simply calling the evidence as they see it.

It's the ballers that follow everything their scientific high priests tell them, no matter how fanciful. It's unintelligent ballers that believe Nasa when Nasa tells them they are flying helicopters on Mars. Intelligent people know that a planet with 1/100th the atmosphere of earth can't produce lift for a helicopter.

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