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Christianlee wrote: November 10th, 2022, 6:58 pm Trump’s act is getting old just like he is. We are not even through the midterms and he’s trying to start a fight with Governor DeSantis. DeSantis hasn’t even said he is running against Trump. Trump is a very jealous man and demands the spotlight. He cares about himself more than he does the country. Trump was calling for lockdowns and DeSantis was one of the governors who ended them early. Trump cannot overcome his mishandling of Covid.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/11/10 ... nt-n657413
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Mitt Romney is a Satanic a$$hole and represents pretty much everything that is messed up with the LDS people and the Church in one person.

But he isn't alone unfortunately.

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Christianlee wrote: November 10th, 2022, 6:58 pm Trump’s act is getting old just like he is. We are not even through the midterms and he’s trying to start a fight with Governor DeSantis. DeSantis hasn’t even said he is running against Trump. Trump is a very jealous man and demands the spotlight. He cares about himself more than he does the country. Trump was calling for lockdowns and DeSantis was one of the governors who ended them early. Trump cannot overcome his mishandling of Covid.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/11/10 ... nt-n657413
I like DeSantis more than Trump myself. Though I fear that like Trump, DC would eat him for lunch. He certainly has a higher ceiling than Trump has. And he doesn't have Trump's biggest weakness: A huge mouth prone to say stupid things.

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The Red Pill wrote: November 10th, 2022, 11:47 pm Trump is apparently being short sighted here. It would be foolish to pick a fight with DeSantis...and it would be foolish for DeSantis to pick a fight with Trump.

If they really wanted to BURY the Dems alive...then do a Trump-DeSantis ticket.

Even the evil Dems couldn't cheat their way to victory with that combination. Desantis could be POTUS in 2028.
Trump would need to move out of Florida for that to happen. Unless the Republicans want to gift 30 EV to the Dems by default.

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A few days ago there was a retired General who met with DeSantis and was pretty upset about the way DeSantis was talking to him. He was urging the general to dump Trump and support him instead. He sounded rather petty and, I thought, disloyal to someone who had endorsed him.

I can see why Trump would have been mad.

Later there was an article about the handful of big money people who are putting DeSantis up to run against Trump. It struck me as an attempt to divide the conservatives for 2024. Can’t you just see everybody moving into one camp or the other and then being too prideful to get behind whichever one wins?

Will try to find the story on that General who said DeSantis was secretly trying to erode Trump’s support base.

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The establishment wants to defeat and put the breaks on anyone who won't conform or isn't beholden to the establishment.

Think about who was shilling the government narrative on covid19 (those lying bassTards ;-))? Place like Fox News, CNN, MS NBC, pretty much all the mainstream media are involved.

Don't trust them because they have a job to sell the narrative of their masters.

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Here it is, and this preceded Trump taking swipes at DeSantis. Can you blame him?

https://realrawnews.com/2022/10/desanti ... nst-trump/

DeSantis Tries to Turn Military Against Trump
By Michael Baxter - October 26, 2022

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Monday tried once again to sabotage President Donald J. Trump’s alliance with White Hat commanders in the US military, a source in General David H. Berger’s office told Real Raw News.

DeSantis, a potential 2024 Republican candidate, has not said definitively whether he’ll seek the Oval Office, but his badmouthing Trump clearly suggests his aspirations exceed just another term helming the Sunshine State. On Monday afternoon DeSantis was on the receiving end of a phone call initiated by Gen. Berger, who called not to discuss politics but to ask DeSantis why he had allowed the Federal Emergency Management Agency to run amuck in Southwest Florida following Hurricane Ian. Gen. Berger, our source said, had a tally sheet of the damage FEMA had wrought on displaced Floridians and their properties.

According to General Berger, rogue FEMA agents had plundered or attempted to plunder 125 evacuated homes in and around Naples, Florida. The White Hat partition of the US Military, Gen. Berger told DeSantis, had arrested or otherwise dealt with 47 FEMA desperadoes and retrieved 225 firearms and hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash and jewelry the brigands had stolen from waterlogged homes. The general also said FEMA was directly responsible for the deaths of seven residents.

When asked by Gen. Berger to account for his complacency, DeSantis reportedly said, “Sometimes we have to look the other way for the greater good. I’m not happy about it, but our infrastructure isn’t getting rebuilt without federal money,” then tried to segue the conversation toward a “topic of greater importance:” the military’s unflinching support for Donald J. Trump.

DeSantis called Trump “damaged goods” and a “relic,” saying that Trump’s once unbreakable MAGA coalition had devolved into splinter cells—some quite insane—sans unified leadership. He called out people such as Stephen K. Bannon, Gen. Michael Flynn, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and longtime Trump ally Roger Stone as reasons why MAGA had become a meme.

“This clown Stone said he’d endorse a Trump/Kanye West ticket. How absurd is that? Crazy MAGAs might let that fly, but surely you, General, can see Trump’s time is done and he’s only marginally better than Biden. If Trump enters and you support him, you’ll be doing a huge disservice to the nation,” DeSantis said. “And let’s not forget, Trump is the father of Operation Warp Speed.”

That poignant comment, our source said, gave the general a moment of pause.

“No one’s happy about Warp Speed, but I didn’t see you on a pulpit condemning it. And if I remember correctly, you were all in favor of getting needles into the arms of senior citizens right out the gate,” the general snapped back. But here you are trying to shift the discourse rather than just answer a few simple questions.”

Speaking of FEMA, DeSantis said he had to pick which battles to fight and which to put on the back-burner. “Aren’t you, General, choosing your battles carefully, too?”

“Gen. Berger realized this conversation wasn’t going anywhere. DeSantis wasn’t interested in discussing FEMA—just impugning Trump’s character, so he opted to end the call. Prior to that, DeSantis got in a last remark, and told the general that if both he and Trump enter the 2024 primaries, the military would be wise to support him over Trump,” our source said.

Gen. Berger, however, scolded DeSantis, labeling him a “true, career politician.”

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Allison wrote: November 11th, 2022, 4:59 pm Here it is, and this preceded Trump taking swipes at DeSantis. Can you blame him?

https://realrawnews.com/2022/10/desanti ... nst-trump/

DeSantis Tries to Turn Military Against Trump
By Michael Baxter - October 26, 2022

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Monday tried once again to sabotage President Donald J. Trump’s alliance with White Hat commanders in the US military, a source in General David H. Berger’s office told Real Raw News.

DeSantis, a potential 2024 Republican candidate, has not said definitively whether he’ll seek the Oval Office, but his badmouthing Trump clearly suggests his aspirations exceed just another term helming the Sunshine State. On Monday afternoon DeSantis was on the receiving end of a phone call initiated by Gen. Berger, who called not to discuss politics but to ask DeSantis why he had allowed the Federal Emergency Management Agency to run amuck in Southwest Florida following Hurricane Ian. Gen. Berger, our source said, had a tally sheet of the damage FEMA had wrought on displaced Floridians and their properties.

According to General Berger, rogue FEMA agents had plundered or attempted to plunder 125 evacuated homes in and around Naples, Florida. The White Hat partition of the US Military, Gen. Berger told DeSantis, had arrested or otherwise dealt with 47 FEMA desperadoes and retrieved 225 firearms and hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash and jewelry the brigands had stolen from waterlogged homes. The general also said FEMA was directly responsible for the deaths of seven residents.

When asked by Gen. Berger to account for his complacency, DeSantis reportedly said, “Sometimes we have to look the other way for the greater good. I’m not happy about it, but our infrastructure isn’t getting rebuilt without federal money,” then tried to segue the conversation toward a “topic of greater importance:” the military’s unflinching support for Donald J. Trump.

DeSantis called Trump “damaged goods” and a “relic,” saying that Trump’s once unbreakable MAGA coalition had devolved into splinter cells—some quite insane—sans unified leadership. He called out people such as Stephen K. Bannon, Gen. Michael Flynn, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and longtime Trump ally Roger Stone as reasons why MAGA had become a meme.

“This clown Stone said he’d endorse a Trump/Kanye West ticket. How absurd is that? Crazy MAGAs might let that fly, but surely you, General, can see Trump’s time is done and he’s only marginally better than Biden. If Trump enters and you support him, you’ll be doing a huge disservice to the nation,” DeSantis said. “And let’s not forget, Trump is the father of Operation Warp Speed.”

That poignant comment, our source said, gave the general a moment of pause.

“No one’s happy about Warp Speed, but I didn’t see you on a pulpit condemning it. And if I remember correctly, you were all in favor of getting needles into the arms of senior citizens right out the gate,” the general snapped back. But here you are trying to shift the discourse rather than just answer a few simple questions.”

Speaking of FEMA, DeSantis said he had to pick which battles to fight and which to put on the back-burner. “Aren’t you, General, choosing your battles carefully, too?”

“Gen. Berger realized this conversation wasn’t going anywhere. DeSantis wasn’t interested in discussing FEMA—just impugning Trump’s character, so he opted to end the call. Prior to that, DeSantis got in a last remark, and told the general that if both he and Trump enter the 2024 primaries, the military would be wise to support him over Trump,” our source said.

Gen. Berger, however, scolded DeSantis, labeling him a “true, career politician.”
Lol I read that article and that meeting clearly never happened

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darknesstolight wrote: November 11th, 2022, 11:33 am
Christianlee wrote: November 10th, 2022, 6:58 pm Trump’s act is getting old just like he is. We are not even through the midterms and he’s trying to start a fight with Governor DeSantis. DeSantis hasn’t even said he is running against Trump. Trump is a very jealous man and demands the spotlight. He cares about himself more than he does the country. Trump was calling for lockdowns and DeSantis was one of the governors who ended them early. Trump cannot overcome his mishandling of Covid.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/11/10 ... nt-n657413
Those who live in Babylon hate Trump because he is a threat to their great and spacious building.

The Republican party is not your friend.

Mitt Romney is a Satanic a$$hole and represents pretty much everything that is messed up with the LDS people and the Church in one person.

But he isn't alone unfortunately.

...

Desantis went to Harvard and Yale. Supposedly a member of skull and bones. It appears that he is a member of the good ole boys club and is the card being played in order to divide and conquer.
Not necessarily that Trump can be trusted but he has brought focus to certain things that had never been broached before. He has seemed to be opposed to the Democrat/Republican uniparty narrative.

It's principles not politicians.

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For Pete's sake - it's just a popularity contest. That's how Trump beat Hillary and after 4 years got beaten. It's how Bush Jr, Clinton, and Obama won - the "who would you like to have a beer with" test.

You want to win in 2024 run someone smart, charming, and likeable. Someone people identify with. That wasn't Oz. It wasn't McCain or Romney.
It won't be Ted Cruz. And sorry, but it won't be Trump.
If we want the Whitehouse red the 2024 candidate needs to actually be likeable.

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If Trump wins the Republican Primary Election
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This guy will win the Presidential Election
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Luke wrote: November 11th, 2022, 6:04 pm
Allison wrote: November 11th, 2022, 4:59 pm Here it is, and this preceded Trump taking swipes at DeSantis. Can you blame him?

https://realrawnews.com/2022/10/desanti ... nst-trump/

DeSantis Tries to Turn Military Against Trump
By Michael Baxter - October 26, 2022

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Monday tried once again to sabotage President Donald J. Trump’s alliance with White Hat commanders in the US military, a source in General David H. Berger’s office told Real Raw News.

DeSantis, a potential 2024 Republican candidate, has not said definitively whether he’ll seek the Oval Office, but his badmouthing Trump clearly suggests his aspirations exceed just another term helming the Sunshine State. On Monday afternoon DeSantis was on the receiving end of a phone call initiated by Gen. Berger, who called not to discuss politics but to ask DeSantis why he had allowed the Federal Emergency Management Agency to run amuck in Southwest Florida following Hurricane Ian. Gen. Berger, our source said, had a tally sheet of the damage FEMA had wrought on displaced Floridians and their properties.

According to General Berger, rogue FEMA agents had plundered or attempted to plunder 125 evacuated homes in and around Naples, Florida. The White Hat partition of the US Military, Gen. Berger told DeSantis, had arrested or otherwise dealt with 47 FEMA desperadoes and retrieved 225 firearms and hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash and jewelry the brigands had stolen from waterlogged homes. The general also said FEMA was directly responsible for the deaths of seven residents.

When asked by Gen. Berger to account for his complacency, DeSantis reportedly said, “Sometimes we have to look the other way for the greater good. I’m not happy about it, but our infrastructure isn’t getting rebuilt without federal money,” then tried to segue the conversation toward a “topic of greater importance:” the military’s unflinching support for Donald J. Trump.

DeSantis called Trump “damaged goods” and a “relic,” saying that Trump’s once unbreakable MAGA coalition had devolved into splinter cells—some quite insane—sans unified leadership. He called out people such as Stephen K. Bannon, Gen. Michael Flynn, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and longtime Trump ally Roger Stone as reasons why MAGA had become a meme.

“This clown Stone said he’d endorse a Trump/Kanye West ticket. How absurd is that? Crazy MAGAs might let that fly, but surely you, General, can see Trump’s time is done and he’s only marginally better than Biden. If Trump enters and you support him, you’ll be doing a huge disservice to the nation,” DeSantis said. “And let’s not forget, Trump is the father of Operation Warp Speed.”

That poignant comment, our source said, gave the general a moment of pause.

“No one’s happy about Warp Speed, but I didn’t see you on a pulpit condemning it. And if I remember correctly, you were all in favor of getting needles into the arms of senior citizens right out the gate,” the general snapped back. But here you are trying to shift the discourse rather than just answer a few simple questions.”

Speaking of FEMA, DeSantis said he had to pick which battles to fight and which to put on the back-burner. “Aren’t you, General, choosing your battles carefully, too?”

“Gen. Berger realized this conversation wasn’t going anywhere. DeSantis wasn’t interested in discussing FEMA—just impugning Trump’s character, so he opted to end the call. Prior to that, DeSantis got in a last remark, and told the general that if both he and Trump enter the 2024 primaries, the military would be wise to support him over Trump,” our source said.

Gen. Berger, however, scolded DeSantis, labeling him a “true, career politician.”
Lol I read that article and that meeting clearly never happened
Lol, do you mean the phone call never happened? What made that clear to you, exactly? It is interesting that this came out before Trump had anything bad to say about DeSantis.

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JLHPROF wrote: November 11th, 2022, 7:49 pm For Pete's sake - it's just a popularity contest. That's how Trump beat Hillary and after 4 years got beaten. It's how Bush Jr, Clinton, and Obama won - the "who would you like to have a beer with" test.

You want to win in 2024 run someone smart, charming, and likeable. Someone people identify with. That wasn't Oz. It wasn't McCain or Romney.
It won't be Ted Cruz. And sorry, but it won't be Trump.
If we want the Whitehouse red the 2024 candidate needs to actually be likeable.
I hope this was a tongue-in-cheek post . . . . :? But if not, any suggestions as to who you think might fit this bill?

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Christianlee wrote: November 10th, 2022, 6:58 pm Trump’s act is getting old just like he is. We are not even through the midterms and he’s trying to start a fight with Governor DeSantis. DeSantis hasn’t even said he is running against Trump. Trump is a very jealous man and demands the spotlight. He cares about himself more than he does the country. Trump was calling for lockdowns and DeSantis was one of the governors who ended them early. Trump cannot overcome his mishandling of Covid.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/11/10 ... nt-n657413
This is waaaay off track.

Here is more of the background as to why Trump is getting rather miffed at DeSantis. Seems reasonable to me, but he should have avoided the name-calling dig. Unfortunate. Here: https://www.infowars.com/posts/trump-qu ... -2024-run/

The lead-in for the article: "Former President Donald Trump issued a lengthy diatribe weighing in on the media’s cheerleading of Ron DeSantis, who recently won his midterm election by nearly 20 points, and revealing his sentiments on the Florida governor’s refusal to dismiss a possible 2024 presidential bid."

Here is Trump's "lengthy diatribe":
Now that midterms are over, and a success, NewsCorp, which is Fox, the Wall Street Journal, and the no longer great New York Post (bring back Col!), is all in for Governor Ron DeSanctimonious, an average REPUBLICAN Governor with great Public Relations, who didn’t have to close up his State, but did, unlike other Republican Governors, whose overall numbers for a Republican, were just average—middle of the pack—including COVID, and who has the advantage of SUNSHINE, where people from badly run States up North would go no matter who the Governor was, just like I did!

Ron came to me in desperate shape in 2017—he was politically dead, losing in a landslide to a very good Agriculture Commissioner, Adam Putnam, who was loaded up with cash and great poll numbers. Ron had low approval, bad polls, and no money, but he said that if I would Endorse him, he could win. I didn’t know Adam so I said, “Let’s give it a shot, Ron.” When I Endorsed him, it was as though, to use a bad term, a nuclear weapon went off. Years later, they were the exact words that Adam Putnam used in describing Ron’s Endorsement. He said, “I went from having it made, with no competition, to immediately getting absolutely clobbered after your Endorsement.” I then got Ron by the “Star” of the Democrat Party, Andrew Gillum (who was later revealed to be a “Crack Head”), by having two massive Rallies with tens of thousands of people at each one I also fixed his campaign, which had completely fallen apart. I was all in for Ron, and he beat Gillum, but after the Race, when votes were being stolen by the corrupt Election process in Broward County, and Ron was going down ten thousand votes a day, along with now-Senator Rick Scott, I sent in the FBI and the U.S. Attorneys, and the ballot theft immediately ended, just prior to them running out of the votes necessary to win. I stopped his Election from being stolen

And now, Ron DeSanctimonious is playing games! The Fake News asks him if he’s going to run if President Trump runs, and he says, “I’m only focused on the Governor’s race, I’m not looking into the future.” Well, in terms of loyalty and class, that’s really not the right answer.

This is just like 2015 and 2016, a Media Assault (Collusion!), when Fox News fought me to the end until I won, and then they couldn’t have been nicer or more supportive. The Wall Street Journal loved Low Energy Jeb Bush, and a succession of other people as they rapidly disappeared from sight, finally falling in line with me after I easily knocked them out, one by one. We’re in exactly the same position now. They will keep coming after us, MAGA, but ultimately, we will win. Put America First and, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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Now Dan Bongino feels much the same way. He thinks Trump has a point, but is making a mistake in airing it while the determination of the election is still ongoing, and also says he should have avoided name-calling.

Here, about 2/3rds the say through his program: About That Trump DeSantis Feud -The Dan Bongino Show at: https://rumble.com/v1tmpqw-about-that-t ... +Show&ep=2

Now if the phone call that was cited in Allison's post, above, is real, Trump would have even more reason to go after DeSantis.

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A problem DeSantis will face is the establishment GOP is going to throw him their support. This will turn off former Trump supporters who agree with his message but have lost hope he can win and are hopeful that DeSantis can be someone worth supporting. Therein lies the rub. Who do disillusioned Trump supporters turn to now? DeSantis may not be a Paul Ryan but unlike Trump, he won’t push those people away but those establishment figures drive away a lot of the conservative crowd

Seems like an impossible situation.

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larsenb wrote: November 11th, 2022, 9:27 pm Now Dan Bongino feels much the same way. He thinks Trump has a point, but is making a mistake in airing it while the determination of the election is still ongoing, and also says he should have avoided name-calling.

Here, about 2/3rds the say through his program: About That Trump DeSantis Feud -The Dan Bongino Show at: https://rumble.com/v1tmpqw-about-that-t ... +Show&ep=2

Now if the phone call that was cited in Allison's post, above, is real, Trump would have even more reason to go after DeSantis.
And DeSantis would be kind of a snake to turn on his friend behind his back like that.

I was thinking General Berger was retired because the original article had a photo and he looked quite old. But how hard would it be to track down his office for a statement?

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BuriedTartaria wrote: November 11th, 2022, 9:34 pm A problem DeSantis will face is the establishment GOP is going to throw him their support. This will turn off former Trump supporters who agree with his message but have lost hope he can win and are hopeful that DeSantis can be someone worth supporting. Therein lies the rub. Who do disillusioned Trump supporters turn to now? DeSantis may not be a Paul Ryan but unlike Trump, he won’t push those people away but those establishment figures drive away a lot of the conservative crowd

Seems like an impossible situation.
The real problem is if DeSantis actually mounts a run for the Presidency in 2024 without coming to an understanding with the man who was forced out of office by election/voter fraud, but who is still at least the titular head of the Republican Party. And by DeSantis not making this kind of move, and not assuring Trump he would not run in 2024, he is showing immense disrespect for Trump, who is on the verge of announcing that his hat is in the ring for that election year.

This move on DeSantis' part, is causing a much greater rift in the Republican Party than the rift created by those who no longer want to support Trump. And this in the face of the fact that Trump's endorsement of DeSantis is what got him elected Governor in the first place.

DeSantis moves down several notches in my estimation; and even more if he persists in this kind of behavior.

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one thing I reckon bears consideration is that trump has already made enormous sacrifices and personal investment - whereas something tells me that, w/ his feet to the fire, that desantis may well *crack* on day one. its a question of mettle...

but unfortunately, they're both zionists (the bad zion..) at the end of day.

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Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no salvation.
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Allison wrote: November 11th, 2022, 9:45 pm
larsenb wrote: November 11th, 2022, 9:27 pm Now Dan Bongino feels much the same way. He thinks Trump has a point, but is making a mistake in airing it while the determination of the election is still ongoing, and also says he should have avoided name-calling.

Here, about 2/3rds the say through his program: About That Trump DeSantis Feud -The Dan Bongino Show at: https://rumble.com/v1tmpqw-about-that-t ... +Show&ep=2

Now if the phone call that was cited in Allison's post, above, is real, Trump would have even more reason to go after DeSantis.
And DeSantis would be kind of a snake to turn on his friend behind his back like that.

I was thinking General Berger was retired because the original article had a photo and he looked quite old. But how hard would it be to track down his office for a statement?
The website says it is satire on its About page.

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abijah wrote: November 11th, 2022, 11:28 pm one thing I reckon bears consideration is that trump has already made enormous sacrifices and personal investment - whereas something tells me that, w/ his feet to the fire, that desantis may well *crack* on day one. its a question of mettle...

but unfortunately, they're both zionists (the bad zion..) at the end of day.

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Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no salvation.
Trump cracked during Covid. Operation Warp Speed was a disaster. He also encouraged lockdowns. No amnesty. His political career is over.

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Allison wrote: November 11th, 2022, 8:39 pm
Luke wrote: November 11th, 2022, 6:04 pm
Allison wrote: November 11th, 2022, 4:59 pm Here it is, and this preceded Trump taking swipes at DeSantis. Can you blame him?

https://realrawnews.com/2022/10/desanti ... nst-trump/

DeSantis Tries to Turn Military Against Trump
By Michael Baxter - October 26, 2022

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Monday tried once again to sabotage President Donald J. Trump’s alliance with White Hat commanders in the US military, a source in General David H. Berger’s office told Real Raw News.

DeSantis, a potential 2024 Republican candidate, has not said definitively whether he’ll seek the Oval Office, but his badmouthing Trump clearly suggests his aspirations exceed just another term helming the Sunshine State. On Monday afternoon DeSantis was on the receiving end of a phone call initiated by Gen. Berger, who called not to discuss politics but to ask DeSantis why he had allowed the Federal Emergency Management Agency to run amuck in Southwest Florida following Hurricane Ian. Gen. Berger, our source said, had a tally sheet of the damage FEMA had wrought on displaced Floridians and their properties.

According to General Berger, rogue FEMA agents had plundered or attempted to plunder 125 evacuated homes in and around Naples, Florida. The White Hat partition of the US Military, Gen. Berger told DeSantis, had arrested or otherwise dealt with 47 FEMA desperadoes and retrieved 225 firearms and hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash and jewelry the brigands had stolen from waterlogged homes. The general also said FEMA was directly responsible for the deaths of seven residents.

When asked by Gen. Berger to account for his complacency, DeSantis reportedly said, “Sometimes we have to look the other way for the greater good. I’m not happy about it, but our infrastructure isn’t getting rebuilt without federal money,” then tried to segue the conversation toward a “topic of greater importance:” the military’s unflinching support for Donald J. Trump.

DeSantis called Trump “damaged goods” and a “relic,” saying that Trump’s once unbreakable MAGA coalition had devolved into splinter cells—some quite insane—sans unified leadership. He called out people such as Stephen K. Bannon, Gen. Michael Flynn, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and longtime Trump ally Roger Stone as reasons why MAGA had become a meme.

“This clown Stone said he’d endorse a Trump/Kanye West ticket. How absurd is that? Crazy MAGAs might let that fly, but surely you, General, can see Trump’s time is done and he’s only marginally better than Biden. If Trump enters and you support him, you’ll be doing a huge disservice to the nation,” DeSantis said. “And let’s not forget, Trump is the father of Operation Warp Speed.”

That poignant comment, our source said, gave the general a moment of pause.

“No one’s happy about Warp Speed, but I didn’t see you on a pulpit condemning it. And if I remember correctly, you were all in favor of getting needles into the arms of senior citizens right out the gate,” the general snapped back. But here you are trying to shift the discourse rather than just answer a few simple questions.”

Speaking of FEMA, DeSantis said he had to pick which battles to fight and which to put on the back-burner. “Aren’t you, General, choosing your battles carefully, too?”

“Gen. Berger realized this conversation wasn’t going anywhere. DeSantis wasn’t interested in discussing FEMA—just impugning Trump’s character, so he opted to end the call. Prior to that, DeSantis got in a last remark, and told the general that if both he and Trump enter the 2024 primaries, the military would be wise to support him over Trump,” our source said.

Gen. Berger, however, scolded DeSantis, labeling him a “true, career politician.”
Lol I read that article and that meeting clearly never happened
Lol, do you mean the phone call never happened? What made that clear to you, exactly? It is interesting that this came out before Trump had anything bad to say about DeSantis.
"White hats in the military" was a dead giveaway. Clearly akin to Qanon bollocks.

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Christianlee wrote: November 12th, 2022, 6:08 amTrump cracked during Covid.
i guess it depends what i mean by "crack", im more talking about an inner-vessel sort of basis, the inward intentions/devotions of the heart, who/what it is that one truly serves, ultimately.

i find it plausible enough that trumps higher priorities and motivations are unironically much more genuine and authentic than most other politicians. perhaps im naive but i think it's entirely possible trump genuinely loves america, genuinely wants to preserve her future, and genuinely do right by the american people. i think for the most part he serves the right master at the end of the day. or did, at least.

people don't put-up with the utter burden and unending chaos he had to deal with unless theres some kind of potent, deeper animating principle that drives them.

i think trump absolutely 100% failed w/ covid, and has lots of other failures/issues besides. but im not necessarily sure he sold out his more foundational principles, or the intrinsic spirit of the 'maga ethos' per se.

so to come back to my original point i think trump is more-or-less "all in" when it comes to the deeper motivations which animate/drive him. he already has skin in the game, has already paid heavy prices, and has a score to settle. whereas perhaps desantis only later proves to not be powered by quite that strong a flame or level of conviction. plus theres the possibility that the sheer magnitude of the powers/influences on the presidential level dwarf those one grapples w/ in florida state governership, and maybe serves better in the role/sphere he is currently. just some considerations i think should be weighed.

anyway, i definitely haven't come to any conclusion about who i think should run 2024. maybe kanye, ideally. but realistically speaking, i probly lean more trump than desantis at this point in time, and who knows perhaps that'll change, though as i already said, end of the day they're both zionists anyway, so.

one of my preferred information sources lately has been ramzpaul's daily streams and he made some decent arguments for desantis earlier
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larsenb wrote: November 11th, 2022, 10:11 pm
The real problem is if DeSantis actually mounts a run for the Presidency in 2024 without coming to an understanding with the man who was forced out of office by election/voter fraud, but who is still at least the titular head of the Republican Party. And by DeSantis not making this kind of move, and not assuring Trump he would not run in 2024, he is showing immense disrespect for Trump, who is on the verge of announcing that his hat is in the ring for that election year.

This move on DeSantis' part, is causing a much greater rift in the Republican Party than the rift created by those who no longer want to support Trump. And this in the face of the fact that Trump's endorsement of DeSantis is what got him elected Governor in the first place.

DeSantis moves down several notches in my estimation; and even more if he persists in this kind of behavior.
These are fair points. I'm grateful you put this stuff into perspective because you do make some good points here.

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BuriedTartaria wrote: November 12th, 2022, 8:03 am
larsenb wrote: November 11th, 2022, 10:11 pm
The real problem is if DeSantis actually mounts a run for the Presidency in 2024 without coming to an understanding with the man who was forced out of office by election/voter fraud, but who is still at least the titular head of the Republican Party. And by DeSantis not making this kind of move, and not assuring Trump he would not run in 2024, he is showing immense disrespect for Trump, who is on the verge of announcing that his hat is in the ring for that election year.

This move on DeSantis' part, is causing a much greater rift in the Republican Party than the rift created by those who no longer want to support Trump. And this in the face of the fact that Trump's endorsement of DeSantis is what got him elected Governor in the first place.

DeSantis moves down several notches in my estimation; and even more if he persists in this kind of behavior.
These are fair points. I'm grateful you put this stuff into perspective because you do make some good points here.
DeSantis doesn’t owe Trump anything at this point. DeSantis proved his mettle as governor. This is not the Mafia.

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abijah wrote: November 11th, 2022, 11:28 pm one thing I reckon bears consideration is that trump has already made enormous sacrifices and personal investment - whereas something tells me that, w/ his feet to the fire, that desantis may well *crack* on day one. its a question of mettle...

but unfortunately, they're both zionists (the bad zion..) at the end of day.

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Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no salvation.
Well yeh, but in my view, and as I've mentioned before, Trump is, and would be,, 1 to 2 orders of magnitude better than our current debacle. And princes aren't elected.

I'm practical, in the sense that I would rather have the best man available who has a chance of winning, than play no part in preventing a man like Biden remaining in office.

And your right. Trump has already made impressive sacrifices to do what he did and is still trying to do, clot-shot endorsement, not withstanding.

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