🌅 📯 Resurrection Morning

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🤔 I had the weirdest impression the other day that there are times in the Old Testament where the "Day of JHWH" also bleeds-over retroactively through time into specific times/places/events throughout the OT era.

The prompting came as I was reading this:

Isaiah 37
Then the angel of the LORD went forth, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.

"..and when they arose... they were all dead corpses..."

What bizarre wording 🤔 unless it also applies to a 'Day of JHWH' context...

Isaiah 37
..and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.

I think the deliberate notation "early in the morning" in ^Isa`37:36 is a hyperlink to Resurrection morning.

Mark 16
And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun...
And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

"ok abijah, i get that mornings & sunrises are Resurrection metaphors, but its only symbolic, especially in the OT before the Resurrection even happened"

Well I think there is a very real theme going on here between 'morning'/'sunrise', and the Resurrection throughout the Old Testament (and possibly BoM too..? 🤔) that I think speaks to something deeper which ill continue to investigate in this thread. Image
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1 Thessalonians 4
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first

I think this scripture applies to a 'Day of JHWH' context which gets developed earlier in the OT.

Two scenarios which Paul is hyperlinking-onto in 1 Thessalonians is Joshua's siege on Jericho (Joshua 6), as well as Gideon destroying the Midianites (Judges 7). Image

One aspect of Resurrection involves a very loud shout..

1 Thessalonians 4
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first
  • Joshua 6
    And it came to pass on the seventh day, that they rose early about the dawning of the day, and compassed the city after the same manner seven times: only on that day they compassed the city seven times.
    And it came to pass at the seventh time, when the priests blew the trumpets, Joshua said unto the people, Shout; for the LORD hath given you the city...
    So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat...
  • Judges 7
    Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod...
    When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and shout, 'The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon'
    ...and they cried, 'The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon'.
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Another resurrection`morning leitmotif is the trumpet/jubilee horn ---->

1 Thessalonians 4
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first
  • Joshua 6
    And it came to pass on the seventh day, that they rose early about the dawning of the day, and compassed the city after the same manner seven times: only on that day they compassed the city seven times.
    And it came to pass at the seventh time, when the priests blew with the trumpets, Joshua said unto the people, Shout; for the LORD hath given you the city...
    So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat...
  • Judges 7
    Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod...
    When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and shout, 'The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon'
    And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, 'The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon'.

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One aspect of the resurrection morning is specifically the morning dew --->

Isaiah 26
Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of the morning, and the earth bring forth her dead.

Psalm 110
Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the garments of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

I think the "dew" serves as a hyperlink to Judges and the story of Gideon's fleece 🤔 though i haven't quite figured out how the whole dew symbolism works with the the resurrection morning... Image

Judges 6
And Gideon said unto God, If thou wilt save Israel by mine hand, as thou hast said,
Behold, I will put a fleece of wool in the floor; and if the dew be on the fleece only, and it be dry upon all the earth beside, then shall I know that thou wilt save Israel by mine hand, as thou hast said.
And it was so: for he rose up early on the morrow, and thrust the fleece together, and wringed the dew out of the fleece, a bowl full of water.
And Gideon said unto God, Let not thine anger be hot against me, and I will speak but this once: let me prove, I pray thee, but this once with the fleece; let it now be dry only upon the fleece, and upon all the ground let there be dew.
And God did so that night: for it was dry upon the fleece only, and there was dew on all the ground.

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abijah wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 6:47 pm One aspect of the resurrection morning is specifically the morning dew --->

Isaiah 26
Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of the morning, and the earth bring forth her dead.

Psalm 110
Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the garments of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

I think the "dew" serves as a hyperlink to Judges and the story of Gideon's fleece 🤔 though i haven't quite figured out how the whole dew symbolism works with the the resurrection morning... Image

Judges 6
And Gideon said unto God, If thou wilt save Israel by mine hand, as thou hast said,
Behold, I will put a fleece of wool in the floor; and if the dew be on the fleece only, and it be dry upon all the earth beside, then shall I know that thou wilt save Israel by mine hand, as thou hast said.
And it was so: for he rose up early on the morrow, and thrust the fleece together, and wringed the dew out of the fleece, a bowl full of water.
And Gideon said unto God, Let not thine anger be hot against me, and I will speak but this once: let me prove, I pray thee, but this once with the fleece; let it now be dry only upon the fleece, and upon all the ground let there be dew.
And God did so that night: for it was dry upon the fleece only, and there was dew on all the ground.
I’ve been studying this same vein but in relation to Wisdom, the Divine Mother. One of the things brought to my attention was the total shredding of Psalms 110. If I remember correctly a fragment found, in Greek, helps a little to understand what was intended.

Dew is representative of anointing oil, a gift from the Tree of Life, like myrrh and spikenard, associated with the burying and raising of the dead and the begetting of the Sons of God.
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Pazooka wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 7:24 pm Dew is representative of anointing oil, a gift from the Tree of Life, like myrrh and spikenard, associated with the burying and raising of the dead and the begetting of the Sons of God.
That makes a lot of sense. Something aromatic, as well as a liquid agent that makes things glossy and reflect light. Scriptural hyperlinks pair it with receiving the "Ruach of JHWH". Anointing oils/embalming ointments were a detail in the Mark 16 scripture I quoted earlier which interests me. I ought to investigate further.
Pazooka wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 7:24 pmI’ve been studying this same vein but in relation to Wisdom, the Divine Mother.
It's interesting how "ruach chokma" or "spirit of wisdom" is actually a pretty rare phrase that only occurs a few times. One of the few people said to possess it was Bezalel who crafted the ark of the covenant. The ark itself being associated with the divine feminine is already something of an established thing, but something i reckon Bezalel himself is also a factor in the equation so to speak. His name means "shadow of God, which aligns perfectly seems to me, in terms of covering/concealment/mystery.

Exodus 31
1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2 See, I have called by name Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah:
3 And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship
4 To devise cunning works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass,
5 And in cutting of stones, to set them, and in carving of timber, to work in all manner of workmanship.
Pazooka wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 7:24 pmOne of the things brought to my attention was the total shredding of Psalms 110. If I remember correctly a fragment found, in Greek, helps a little to understand what was intended.
interesting.
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abijah wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 10:03 pm
Pazooka wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 7:24 pm Dew is representative of anointing oil, a gift from the Tree of Life, like myrrh and spikenard, associated with the burying and raising of the dead and the begetting of the Sons of God.
That makes a lot of sense. Something aromatic, as well as a liquid agent that makes things glossy and reflect light. Scriptural hyperlinks pair it with receiving the "Ruach of JHWH". Anointing oils/embalming ointments were a detail in the Mark 16 scripture I quoted earlier which interests me. I ought to investigate further.
Pazooka wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 7:24 pmI’ve been studying this same vein but in relation to Wisdom, the Divine Mother.
It's interesting how "ruach chokma" or "spirit of wisdom" is actually a pretty rare phrase that only occurs a few times. One of the few people said to possess it was Bezalel who crafted the ark of the covenant. The ark itself being associated with the divine feminine is already something of an established thing, but something i reckon Bezalel himself is a factor in the equation so to speak. His name means "shadow of God", which aligns perfectly seems to me.
Pazooka wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 7:24 pmOne of the things brought to my attention was the total shredding of Psalms 110. If I remember correctly a fragment found, in Greek, helps a little to understand what was intended.
interesting.
The question I have about the “embalming ointments” is whether or not the intent was truly to embalm Jesus. That morning, when Mary goes to the tomb with myrrh, was the myrrh for embalming or was it to anoint him in preparation for his resurrection? I honestly don’t know enough about it to even ask the right questions at this point.

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Another crucial recurring leitmotif in the day of jhwh' tune is the theme of clean beautiful garments ---->

Mark 16
And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices that they might come and anoint him.
And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun...
And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen...

Psalm 110:3
Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the garments of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

Judges 6
But the Spirit of the LORD clothed upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet..
And Gideon said unto God, If thou wilt save Israel by mine hand, as thou hast said,
Behold, I will put a fleece of wool in the floor; and if the dew be on the fleece only, and it be dry upon all the earth beside, then shall I know that thou wilt save Israel by mine hand, as thou hast said.
And it was so: for he rose up early on the morrow, and thrust the fleece together, and wringed the dew out of the fleece, a bowl full of water..
Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod...

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Pazooka wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 10:18 pmThe question I have about the “embalming ointments” is whether or not the intent was truly to embalm Jesus. That morning, when Mary goes to the tomb with myrrh, was the myrrh for embalming or was it to anoint him in preparation for his resurrection? I honestly don’t know enough about it to even ask the right questions at this point.
the language is ambiguous so it's possible. I feel its worth noting in Exodus 31 after talking about Bezalel it talks about incense and anointing oils.

Also consider how in both mark 16 and psalm 45 you have these three elements of :

1) women
2) clothing, and
3) oil/incense

Mark 16
And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him..
And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment...

Psalm 45
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.
Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.

Also ^"gold of ophir" reminds me how both gold and incense are associated in eden, specifically havilah -

Gen 2
The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.


Also, "Bezalel", the onyx stone, and the queen of sheba all denote darkness, and are all associated with incense/spices/anointing oil`resins (amongst many other hyperlinks).... 🤔

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abijah wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 11:45 pm
Pazooka wrote: ↑October 19th, 2022, 10:18 pmThe question I have about the “embalming ointments” is whether or not the intent was truly to embalm Jesus. That morning, when Mary goes to the tomb with myrrh, was the myrrh for embalming or was it to anoint him in preparation for his resurrection? I honestly don’t know enough about it to even ask the right questions at this point.
the language is ambiguous so it's possible. I feel its worth noting in Exodus 31 after talking about Bezalel it talks about incense and anointing oils.

Also consider how in both mark 16 and psalm 45 you have these three elements of :

1) women
2) clothing, and
3) oil/incense

Mark 16
And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him..
And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment...

Psalm 45
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.
Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.

Also ^"gold of ophir" reminds me how both gold and incense are associated in eden, specifically havilah -

Gen 2
The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.


Also, "Bezalel", the onyx stone, and the queen of sheba all denote darkness, and are all associated with incense/spices/anointing oil`resins (amongst many other hyperlinks).... 🤔
I always tend to look now at the Hebrew from which any reference to God is made, and it’s interesting that in Psalms 45 it actually says “elohim” (“gods”) are doing the anointing. That’s a great link, thanks

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Yeshua/Jesus died before the evening of the 14th of the 1st moon, 6th day of the week, and rose in the evening of the 16th of the 1st moon, 1st day of the week, when using Hebraic Inclusive Time this is three days and three nights.
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