In New Zealand, judge declares 12 yr olds can consent to have sex with adults.
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In New Zealand, judge declares 12 yr olds can consent to have sex with adults.
https://www.eutimes.net/2022/08/new-zea ... th-adults/
This is all sorts of screwed up.
“A New Zealand judge has told a jury that 12-year-old children can consent to sexual intercourse with adults.
Judge Richard Earwaker was addressing the jury during the trial of Tulisi Leiataua, a 45-year-old pedophile charged with abusing two girls, aged 8 and 12. According to Leiataua, the 12-year-old girl “pursued him” and “wanted it” and therefore it was consensual and not rape.
“I know she was a child but the way she came to me was like a mature woman. I refused her but she kept coming back to me. She truly wanted to do this,” the 45-year-old said of the child who was 12 at the time.
In the final days of the trial, Judge Earwaker addressed the issue of consent on a person under 16 years, the New Zealand Herald reported.
“Legally, a person under 16 cannot give consent for charges of indecent acts, therefore as a jury, all you need to decide is if the indecent acts took place,” he said. Then came the kicker. “But as for sexual intercourse, a person under 16 can give consent. You need to consider whether or not the consent was given based on the evidence you have.”
On Monday, Judge Earwaker closed the trial, urging the jury to stay utterly dispassionate when judging whether the Crown prosecution had proved its case or not.
“It is not enough for the Crown to persuade you that he is most likely guilty, it needs to be beyond a reasonable doubt.”
The defense used an element of New Zealand’s laws not widely understood by the public – that while the age of consent is broadly 16 years in New Zealand, consent is still a legal defense available to those charged with raping children.
“There definitely needs to be change,” said Kathryn McPhillips, executive director of sexual abuse organisation HELP. McPhillips said it was “immoral to be putting those ideas forward that a child could consent … It’s way out of sync with what the general population thinks our law is.”
McPhillips said being accused in court of lying and of consenting to sexual activity as a young child resulted in added trauma for victims, particularly children. “As an adult, it’s bad enough to be blamed for something that was done to you, intentional harm that was done to you. That’s bad enough – but to be a child?”
“When an adult has done this to you, and then another adult accuses you of it in court … that is layer upon layer of being the world turned upside down, where the rights of all of these adults to hurt you are sanctioned by the state.”
Leiataua was found guilty this week of 33 charges of sexual abuse against two girls. The youngest victim was just an 8-year-old child when the abuse began. Both children faced two weeks of grueling cross-examination, and it was the nature of Leiataua’s defense, rather than the trial’s final outcome, that has revealed a shameful chapter in New Zealand legislation.”
This is all sorts of screwed up.
“A New Zealand judge has told a jury that 12-year-old children can consent to sexual intercourse with adults.
Judge Richard Earwaker was addressing the jury during the trial of Tulisi Leiataua, a 45-year-old pedophile charged with abusing two girls, aged 8 and 12. According to Leiataua, the 12-year-old girl “pursued him” and “wanted it” and therefore it was consensual and not rape.
“I know she was a child but the way she came to me was like a mature woman. I refused her but she kept coming back to me. She truly wanted to do this,” the 45-year-old said of the child who was 12 at the time.
In the final days of the trial, Judge Earwaker addressed the issue of consent on a person under 16 years, the New Zealand Herald reported.
“Legally, a person under 16 cannot give consent for charges of indecent acts, therefore as a jury, all you need to decide is if the indecent acts took place,” he said. Then came the kicker. “But as for sexual intercourse, a person under 16 can give consent. You need to consider whether or not the consent was given based on the evidence you have.”
On Monday, Judge Earwaker closed the trial, urging the jury to stay utterly dispassionate when judging whether the Crown prosecution had proved its case or not.
“It is not enough for the Crown to persuade you that he is most likely guilty, it needs to be beyond a reasonable doubt.”
The defense used an element of New Zealand’s laws not widely understood by the public – that while the age of consent is broadly 16 years in New Zealand, consent is still a legal defense available to those charged with raping children.
“There definitely needs to be change,” said Kathryn McPhillips, executive director of sexual abuse organisation HELP. McPhillips said it was “immoral to be putting those ideas forward that a child could consent … It’s way out of sync with what the general population thinks our law is.”
McPhillips said being accused in court of lying and of consenting to sexual activity as a young child resulted in added trauma for victims, particularly children. “As an adult, it’s bad enough to be blamed for something that was done to you, intentional harm that was done to you. That’s bad enough – but to be a child?”
“When an adult has done this to you, and then another adult accuses you of it in court … that is layer upon layer of being the world turned upside down, where the rights of all of these adults to hurt you are sanctioned by the state.”
Leiataua was found guilty this week of 33 charges of sexual abuse against two girls. The youngest victim was just an 8-year-old child when the abuse began. Both children faced two weeks of grueling cross-examination, and it was the nature of Leiataua’s defense, rather than the trial’s final outcome, that has revealed a shameful chapter in New Zealand legislation.”
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The Slippery Slope is real
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My husband made the prediction over 10 years ago, and I'm believing him more and more that one day it will be considered a crime for parents to attempt to stop children from having sex with adults. It will be considered the kids right to be sexually active. This whole transitioning children thing is definitely a huge jump towards that.
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They are already trying to normalize the term "Minor Attracted Person." (MAP)tdj wrote: ↑October 16th, 2022, 4:00 pm My husband made the prediction over 10 years ago, and I'm believing him more and more that one day it will be considered a crime for parents to attempt to stop children from having sex with adults. It will be considered the kids right to be sexually active. This whole transitioning children thing is definitely a huge jump towards that.
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That is exactly what Planned Parenthood and the UN are pushing.tdj wrote: ↑October 16th, 2022, 4:00 pm My husband made the prediction over 10 years ago, and I'm believing him more and more that one day it will be considered a crime for parents to attempt to stop children from having sex with adults. It will be considered the kids right to be sexually active. This whole transitioning children thing is definitely a huge jump towards that.
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I’m sure Jacinda is pleased.
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These figures are worth looking up in this connexion:Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑October 16th, 2022, 4:08 pmThey are already trying to normalize the term "Minor Attracted Person." (MAP)tdj wrote: ↑October 16th, 2022, 4:00 pm My husband made the prediction over 10 years ago, and I'm believing him more and more that one day it will be considered a crime for parents to attempt to stop children from having sex with adults. It will be considered the kids right to be sexually active. This whole transitioning children thing is definitely a huge jump towards that.
* Daniel Cohn-Bendit, major figure in the Paris riots of the 1960s later a guiding spirit in the European Green movement.
* John Money, the father of modern transgenderism. (Everyone should be aware of this man.)
* Eve Ensler, author of the influential Vagina Monologues which has a twenty something lesbian seducing a 12 year old girl.
There are others.