Mirrors can be funny things sometimes. You think I was attacking you. I wasn't. You are of course free to be offended, but only a fool (one who is deficient in understanding) takes offense when none is intended and a greater fool (one who is deficient in understanding) takes offense when it was intended. Either way, one is a fool (One who is deficient in understanding) when they take offense because they have not learned to rely on God for their identity and let man or others determine their identity (they are hurt or offended)- hence why, Knowing God matters and our desire to make "gender matter" means we don't understand His purpose for us. It just is. Don't let others define your identity - whether you are male of female. Let God determine your identity through His Son and His calling to you and for you through and by His Holy Spirit which transforms you into a Son or Daughter of God - completely and entirely one in Christ no longer worrying about the "worldly" or "fleshly" things but the things of God because you already know who you are through Him, not because of what you learned in a fallen world. Thank God for His mercy and one of His final prayers on this earth "Forgive them Father, they don't know what they are doing/don't understand"LDS Watchman wrote: ↑October 9th, 2022, 8:11 amJohn, please look in the mirror. You're the one quibbling and arguing. I made a point, which I think is completely valid. For some reason you are getting worker up about it and want to argue.John Tavner wrote: ↑October 9th, 2022, 7:38 amGender is not and should not be a focus - You are taking a word and twisting hte meaning of "matters" to prove something htat no one is arguing against. The very reason that are focusing on gender is why we have such a twisted world view. Gender just is. What matters is us coming unto Christ and forming ourselves in His image. Everything else will flow from that. If you get it backwards and try to produce the holy from the natural it is corrupted. Become Holy through Christ THEN everything will flow in its proper form. Don't do things backwards and think "gender matters" When the reality is htat. Life matters, Christ matters, Loving God with all our heart, might mind and strength matters, DENYING OURSELF matters. Coming unto Christ and Denying ourselves resolves any "gender disputes" one might have. Instead we are "lovers of our own selves" and seek to be superior in coversations missing hte forest for the trees because we refuse to acknowledge or udnerstand what is being said and seek only to be "right" rather than to obtain the righteousness GOd gave us through His SOn.LDS Watchman wrote: ↑October 9th, 2022, 7:15 amIt takes two different genders to create life, right? So gender matters.John Tavner wrote: ↑October 9th, 2022, 6:11 am
No, again, because it isn't producing life. The intended purpose of God was that man produce after their own kind, and they were to be created and produce after the image of God - sin and death entered into the equation and the process was corrupted. God sent His Son to fix it if we believe. The answer is really simple. Does it produce life? If Yes - than it is more likely of God, if no, then it is not of God. Sin is that which separates us from life or from God (the second part of the test even if it does produce life does it separate us from God and make us more like Him or draw us or others from Him or towards Him?) I.e. are we producing Godly characteristics or natural/corrupted ones. Homosexuality is a state of damnation because it can not produce after it's own kind through its intended sphere therefore it is not of God. A person can only think what you are thinking if they do not understand who God is and His purposes.
These types of arguments are ridiculous when you start quibbling over how a person uses the word "matters."
Gender matters. That was my whole point. And you obviously agree that it matters, so let's just drop this.
Proverbs 4:7 “Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.” Hosea 4:6 " My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you as My priests. Since you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your children."