Conference Priesthood session — gone?
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When my boys were growing up I took them to the Priesthood session. We always went out for ice cream and tried to make it special. My own choice to serve a mission came from President Kimball’s stirring call to young men to go during Priesthood session.
In April the Saturday night schedule was just for women. This month it is for both men and women together. Has the LDS Church become a feminized church? Is the Priesthood being made less than special for the young men? What is the agenda? Are they priming for women to be ordained?
In April the Saturday night schedule was just for women. This month it is for both men and women together. Has the LDS Church become a feminized church? Is the Priesthood being made less than special for the young men? What is the agenda? Are they priming for women to be ordained?
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Yes.
Yes.
And yes.
Isn't it absolutely glorious?
The Lord has finally lifted Eve's curse.
Just like everybody else's.
It's a miricle!
Prepare yourself for a brighter future!
LOL.
Sir H
Yes.
And yes.
Isn't it absolutely glorious?
The Lord has finally lifted Eve's curse.
Just like everybody else's.
It's a miricle!
Prepare yourself for a brighter future!
LOL.
Sir H
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Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
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https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... r?lang=engRussell M Nelson wrote: I urgently plead with each one of us to live up to our privileges as bearers of the priesthood. In a coming day, only those men who have taken their priesthood seriously, by diligently seeking to be taught by the Lord Himself, will be able to bless, guide, protect, strengthen, and heal others. Only a man who has paid the price for priesthood power will be able to bring miracles to those he loves and keep his marriage and family safe, now and throughout eternity.
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It seems the PH session was a bit special. I guess I remember going with my dad then my sons. I will admit I don't recall any learnings or spirit (of course with my dad it was a long drive to a building with an analog phone tap piped over a terrible speaker system. You could hardly understand the words). But then women felt left out, so they did women's conference. But still in my stake women came to the broadcast and sat in the foyer. They always said they were taking notes for someone unable to attend, but most were single women wishing to be men or worried they'd miss something, not that they couldn't wait for the Ensign to read it anyway.
Not so special any more. I will not attend the evening session, perhaps I'm being childish, but why need another session if it isn't directed at a purpose? 8 hours isn't enough for one weekend?
Not so special any more. I will not attend the evening session, perhaps I'm being childish, but why need another session if it isn't directed at a purpose? 8 hours isn't enough for one weekend?
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https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... d?lang=engRussell M Nelson wrote: Likewise, we see faithful men who live up to their privileges as bearers of the priesthood. They lead and serve by sacrifice in the Lord’s way with love, kindness, and patience. They bless, guide, protect, and strengthen others by the power of the priesthood they hold. They bring miracles to those they serve while they keep their own marriages and families safe. They shun evil and are mighty elders in Israel. I am most thankful for them!
Now, may I voice a concern? It is this: Too many of our brothers and sisters do not fully understand the concept of priesthood power and authority. They act as though they would rather satisfy their own selfish desires and appetites than use the power of God to bless His children.
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So, I don't see a connection between exercising righteous PH and having a PH session? As far as de-emphasizing PH, it isn't about that as much as re-defining it to show that those ordained are only part of the PH so that women, part-member families, etc... can claim the PH. then getting rid of HP's except for those they want to have it today. I'm not taking sides one way or the other but there does seem a bit of redefinition that seems like mitigating the actual PH holder IMO.
However the point here is they did away with PH session tradition for what? Did away with scouts for what? Did away with HT for ministering. Did away with teaching prophets words for GC talks. Getting rid of SLC temple murals. Just making the point that things we considered valuable are disappearing all around us and being replaced with ............................... less IMO.
BTW there are talks and discussions best suited for men and boys and others for women and girls, that will never effectively be covered in a homogenous group. those are just lost in the changes.
However the point here is they did away with PH session tradition for what? Did away with scouts for what? Did away with HT for ministering. Did away with teaching prophets words for GC talks. Getting rid of SLC temple murals. Just making the point that things we considered valuable are disappearing all around us and being replaced with ............................... less IMO.
BTW there are talks and discussions best suited for men and boys and others for women and girls, that will never effectively be covered in a homogenous group. those are just lost in the changes.
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Got to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
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Yeah...that ain't happening!spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
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I’ve seen this sentiment many times through the years here. That the church will give women the priesthood, that they will allow gay marriage, that they’re caving to the LGTBQ agenda, that the church will drop the family proclamation. It hasn't happened, it’s not happening, and it won’t happen. Each general conference those sentiments get shot down, not just because they don’t happen, but to the contrary.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
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Openly queer missionaries.cyclOps wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:39 pmI’ve seen this sentiment many times through the years here. That the church will give women the priesthood, that they will allow gay marriage, that they’re caving to the LGTBQ agenda, that the church will drop the family proclamation. It hasn't happened, it’s not happening, and it won’t happen. Each general conference those sentiments get shot down, not just because they don’t happen, but to the contrary.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
You don't go from A to Z without going through B.
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Pretty sure that's what was said before the 78 priesthood revelation.cyclOps wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:39 pmIt hasn't happened, it’s not happening, and it won’t happen. Each general conference those sentiments get shot down, not just because they don’t happen, but to the contrary.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
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It has to happen.Subcomandante wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:18 pmYeah...that ain't happening!spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
Every level of reality builds upon a previous level.
When you fundamentally say men and women are equal. Then you HAVE to give women the priesthood.
You cannot give a talk saying that men and women are equal and that they can switch and flip whatever roles in marriage however they want to . . .and then say no, no, no only MEN can hold the Priesthood.
That ain't going to work for very long.
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It's so incredibly obvious what is going to happen.Destroyer wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:44 pmPretty sure that's what was said before the 78 priesthood revelation.cyclOps wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:39 pmIt hasn't happened, it’s not happening, and it won’t happen. Each general conference those sentiments get shot down, not just because they don’t happen, but to the contrary.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
Either a) they allow it or b) the church takes a hard right.
b can still happen; but if b happens, millions will leave. The current path leads to a.
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Maybe, maybe not. I wasn’t alive then so I don’t know. I have heard that many hoped and prayed for the 78 priesthood revelation until it finally came. Though I’m sure there were also some who didn’t want it.Destroyer wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:44 pmPretty sure that's what was said before the 78 priesthood revelation.cyclOps wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:39 pmIt hasn't happened, it’s not happening, and it won’t happen. Each general conference those sentiments get shot down, not just because they don’t happen, but to the contrary.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
Either way, just because 78 happened doesn’t mean women will get the priesthood and same sex sealings will be authorized.
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So you’re not saying A will happen? I thought that’s what you were saying a few posts back. What specially do you mean by B, the church taking a hard right?spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:45 pmIt's so incredibly obvious what is going to happen.Destroyer wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:44 pmPretty sure that's what was said before the 78 priesthood revelation.
Either a) they allow it or b) the church takes a hard right.
b can still happen; but if b happens, millions will leave. The current path leads to a.
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Also...the Utah legislature decriminalized polygamy a couple years back. A strange move in light of all the Warren Jeff's stuff...so we could see the ghost of Brigham (RMN) ride the polygamy train back into town...you never know with these guys.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:41 pmOpenly queer missionaries.cyclOps wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:39 pmI’ve seen this sentiment many times through the years here. That the church will give women the priesthood, that they will allow gay marriage, that they’re caving to the LGTBQ agenda, that the church will drop the family proclamation. It hasn't happened, it’s not happening, and it won’t happen. Each general conference those sentiments get shot down, not just because they don’t happen, but to the contrary.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
You don't go from A to Z without going through B.
132 is still on the books...
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No you don't.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:44 pmIt has to happen.Subcomandante wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:18 pmYeah...that ain't happening!spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
Every level of reality builds upon a previous level.
When you fundamentally say men and women are equal. Then you HAVE to give women the priesthood.
You cannot give a talk saying that men and women are equal and that they can switch and flip whatever roles in marriage however they want to . . .and then say no, no, no only MEN can hold the Priesthood.
That ain't going to work for very long.
One can say that the Lord sees women and men equally, yet give specific responsibilities to each gender. That is the essence of the Family Proclamation, which the Church holds in high regard, so high, in fact, that it is a required Institute class for graduation.
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" yet give specific responsibilities to each gender"Subcomandante wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 8:14 pmNo you don't.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:44 pmIt has to happen.
Every level of reality builds upon a previous level.
When you fundamentally say men and women are equal. Then you HAVE to give women the priesthood.
You cannot give a talk saying that men and women are equal and that they can switch and flip whatever roles in marriage however they want to . . .and then say no, no, no only MEN can hold the Priesthood.
That ain't going to work for very long.
One can say that the Lord sees women and men equally, yet give specific responsibilities to each gender. That is the essence of the Family Proclamation, which the Church holds in high regard, so high, in fact, that it is a required Institute class for graduation.
Which is now completely up to whoever. There are no specific roles or responsibilities to each sex in marriage; it's do whatever you want now.
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As I noted on another thread, this evening's session was unusually short... About 1 hour and 23 minutes. Much less than 2 hours...
Significant? don't know...
Significant? don't know...
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lol.cyclOps wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:39 pmI’ve seen this sentiment many times through the years here.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
That the church will give women the priesthood, that they will allow gay marriage, that they’re caving to the LGTBQ agenda,
that the church will drop the family proclamation. It hasn't happened, it’s not happening, and it won’t happen.
Each general conference those sentiments get shot down, not just because they don’t happen, but to the contrary.
DOESN'T EVEN MATTER NOW DOES IT ! -
because what they HAVE allowed - to enter in - and be a part of -
IS MUCH MUCH WORSE !
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Huh??Being There wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 11:04 pmlol.cyclOps wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:39 pmI’ve seen this sentiment many times through the years here.spiritMan wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 7:14 pmGot to have Female Priesthood to get to Same Sex Sealings.Christianlee wrote: ↑October 1st, 2022, 5:23 pm Female Priesthood holders would cause many men AND women to hang it up. In almost every case where females have been given church authority, churches tend to liberalize and go off the rails.
So yes, it's coming.
That the church will give women the priesthood, that they will allow gay marriage, that they’re caving to the LGTBQ agenda,
that the church will drop the family proclamation. It hasn't happened, it’s not happening, and it won’t happen.
Each general conference those sentiments get shot down, not just because they don’t happen, but to the contrary.
DOESN'T EVEN MATTER NOW DOES IT ! -
because what they HAVE allowed - to enter in - and be a part of -
IS MUCH MUCH WORSE !