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Silver Pie wrote: October 19th, 2022, 8:28 pm Maybe even the late 60s.
The best “bulletproof” doomsday truck is a 1989-1993 or 1994-1997 5spd manual dodge diesel. You can remove the fuel shut off solenoid and get enough people to push start it. It will run on pure waste engine oil. I have done it.

My current truck is a 2008 Ford F450 with a 1996 dodge diesel Cummins, compound turbos making 600hp and 1200ftlbs. I am using the ford computer controlled automatic transmission.

I had a 2003 dodge 1500 with a 1994 dodge Cummins with a manual 5spd that I ran on 10% gas and 90% waste (used) engine oil (straight out of engine oil pans from doing oil changes). The was my truck for 11 years but we bought a toy hauler that was too heavy for the 1500 frame.

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bbrown wrote: October 19th, 2022, 10:19 pm I’m quite partial to the old cars(pre 80’s mostly pre emissions 70’s and older) they are easier to work with and there is a strong sense of nostalgia but reality is newer cars are in almost all ways better. They last 3-4 times as long, they have far less maintenance, they start easy, they run smoothly, they have far more power than all but the most extreme of the old muscle cars, your odds of survival in a crash are waaaay better. The new ones collapse in a wreck on purpose to absorb impact and force and protect the passenger compartment and reduce injuries. The old cars have no give and the odds of injury are very much higher.
As to the lead issue most of the old engines rebuilt in the last 40 years have had hardened valve seats put in and the lead is now a nonissue. I’d also retro fit electronic ignition and if possible a bolt on injection system. Makes the old ones run like newer type cars. Now back to the lies of nasa…
Interesting. I didn't know most of that. So, do the new "old cars" you mentioned earlier require more maintenance, run less smoothly, etc. etc. like the actual old cars?

Mainly, I don't want computerized, and I want to be safer if there's a crash. Plus - hate the extra seats in the trucks (and the shorter beds that usually come with them).

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Bronco73idi wrote: October 19th, 2022, 11:37 pm
Silver Pie wrote: October 19th, 2022, 8:28 pm Maybe even the late 60s.
The best “bulletproof” doomsday truck is a 1989-1993 or 1994-1997 5spd manual dodge diesel. You can remove the fuel shut off solenoid and get enough people to push start it. It will run on pure waste engine oil. I have done it.

My current truck is a 2008 Ford F450 with a 1996 dodge diesel Cummins, compound turbos making 600hp and 1200ftlbs. I am using the ford computer controlled automatic transmission.

I had a 2003 dodge 1500 with a 1994 dodge Cummins with a manual 5spd that I ran on 10% gas and 90% waste (used) engine oil (straight out of engine oil pans from doing oil changes). The was my truck for 11 years but we bought a toy hauler that was too heavy for the 1500 frame.
Wow! I'll have to keep this information in mind. Thanks.

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Some will think this belongs in the Humor thread. Personally, I haven't decided what is real and what is not. I know that some is fake. I hope that all of it isn't.

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Government money laundering.

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creator wrote: October 20th, 2022, 1:54 pm Government money laundering.
Just out of curiosity, do you think Elon Musk is in on it? Or are his engineers simply not smart enough to grasp reality? I'm running out of people to believe.

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I certainly don't look up to Elon Musk in any way, but haven't looked into him much.

I'm not necessarily questioning anything SpaceX and NASA claim they do within earth orbit bit still you'll find strange things when you dive into it, like:

- A rat/mouse crawling on the SpaceX rocket that is allegedly flying into space? Is it a critter or just some debris? could legitimately be debris ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTJV_g7i3OQ

- or all the obvious green screen footage from the ISS space station?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noBlMBgqqVY

100% fact that they put out some fake stuff. But Why? Is there really no space station? Or is there really no one in it? If it's all legit, what's the reason to fake so much of the ISS footage?

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creator wrote: October 20th, 2022, 2:14 pm I certainly don't look up to Elon Musk in any way, but haven't looked into him much.

I'm not necessarily questioning anything SpaceX and NASA claim they do within earth orbit bit still you'll find strange things when you dive into it, like:

- A rat/mouse crawling on the SpaceX rocket that is allegedly flying into space? Is it a critter or just some debris? could legitimately be debris ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTJV_g7i3OQ

- or all the obvious green screen footage from the ISS space station?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noBlMBgqqVY

100% fact that they put out some fake stuff. But Why? Is there really no space station? Or is there really no one in it? If it's all legit, what's the reason to fake so much of the ISS footage?
Sometimes I use a green screen behind me. Not that anything is top secret. In my case, it's just junk. And it makes for a cleaner video. That's not a deal breaker for me. Also it allows me to place myself in a recording of my screen.

Elon has this super rocket he is working on that is supposed to be able to go to Mars. I guess if he hits a glass ceiling and bounces back, we will know for sure.

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Bronco73idi wrote: October 16th, 2022, 10:01 pm Just some Engineers in;
# Naval gunfire
# Long distance land gunfire, The Howitzer
#Long range tunnels that have to go through other civil engineering. Ie London Crossrail. The error of 20cm to 1km due to curvature of the earth.
I was in artillery for more than ten years and there are conversion tables for earth curvature, but that doesn't mean they are used. Simply putting them there is enough to convince many.

I heard one naval expert whose career was operating the Navy's rail gun and he specifically went on a flat earth show to testify that said rail gun disproves curvature.

People by nature are very arrogant and will quickly call themselves an expert, despite having never once considered where they were deceived.

What did you actually think it meant when we were told Satan could buy up armies and navies? Are you going to maintain that he can afford a navy, but can't afford to fake the firing tables?

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Subcomandante wrote: October 15th, 2022, 11:49 am IF the earth were flat, you would be able to use trigonometry taking the arcsin of 17 degrees and using 2700 as the opposite side.
You are presupposing a constant trajectory for a local sun, but there is more reason to assume that its trajectory has a particular path and pattern that is not constant.

For years now, many YouTube videos have shown quite well how a local sun would be possible, but you will never know if you are not willing to look.

All your posts on this forum indicate you have limited ability to think outside the box and break away from any given life narrative, but hopefully you can see as we do that Satan is quite capable of creating science that mirrors reality.

At least those you are criticizing have looked at both sides, you have not.

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Shawn Henry wrote: October 20th, 2022, 2:49 pm . . . .. What did you actually think it meant when we were told Satan could buy up armies and navies? Are you going to maintain that he can afford a navy, but can't afford to fake the firing tables?
Buying up armies and navies is directly related to waging war and causing destruction. Messing or faking the artillery table's would hinder their use in causing destruction. A contradiction.

Do arty guys still use the WALNUT acronym, or am I misremembering that?

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larsenb wrote: October 20th, 2022, 3:19 pm Messing or faking the artillery table's would hinder their use in causing destruction.
If they actually needed them, sure, but the fact that they are in the books, doesn't prove they are needed.

For example, I could make up a Unicorn firing table and insert it into the manual, but that doesn't make it necessary for killing unicorns.

If we can find a 13D, someone who has experience in the Fire Direction Center (FDC), who claims the tables are necessary, I'll here that man out. I, as a Howitzer chief, lament the fact that I didn't know about these issues back then. I would have asked every single of them.

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Shawn Henry wrote: October 20th, 2022, 3:30 pm
larsenb wrote: October 20th, 2022, 3:19 pm Messing or faking the artillery table's would hinder their use in causing destruction.
If they actually needed them, sure, but the fact that they are in the books, doesn't prove they are needed.

For example, I could make up a Unicorn firing table and insert it into the manual, but that doesn't make it necessary for killing unicorns.

If we can find a 13D, someone who has experience in the Fire Direction Center (FDC), who claims the tables are necessary, I'll here that man out. I, as a Howitzer chief, lament the fact that I didn't know about these issues back then. I would have asked every single of them.
So, is your position that they were put in the books in order to reinforce the global earth theory in the minds of all those myriad artillery specialists? That would be a stretch.

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larsenb wrote: October 20th, 2022, 5:10 pm So, is your position that they were put in the books in order to reinforce the global earth theory in the minds of all those myriad artillery specialists? That would be a stretch.
Even if they don't use them, it would be too easy to have them put in. No one would even question their presence.

It's a total stretch if you believe Satan is only in the spirit world. If you believe he has actual blood lines and organizations that he controls and has built them up throughout time here in the physical world, then it is quite believable.

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Shawn Henry wrote: October 20th, 2022, 3:00 pm
Subcomandante wrote: October 15th, 2022, 11:49 am IF the earth were flat, you would be able to use trigonometry taking the arcsin of 17 degrees and using 2700 as the opposite side.
You are presupposing a constant trajectory for a local sun, but there is more reason to assume that its trajectory has a particular path and pattern that is not constant.

For years now, many YouTube videos have shown quite well how a local sun would be possible, but you will never know if you are not willing to look.

All your posts on this forum indicate you have limited ability to think outside the box and break away from any given life narrative, but hopefully you can see as we do that Satan is quite capable of creating science that mirrors reality.

At least those you are criticizing have looked at both sides, you have not.
I have looked at the Flat Earth hypotheses and they are laughably bad. Once one learns trigonometry, calculus, and angular motion, flat earth "science" falls flat on its face.

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Subcomandante wrote: October 21st, 2022, 6:18 am flat earth "science" falls flat on its face.
Perhaps in your mind my friend, but many highly intelligent people who have looked into it have been convinced. Perhaps you simply watched one YouTube video put together by someone who did not do it well. No matter what the sun's distance away is, there will be trigonometry involved. No math changes the fact that we see overhead above us every day.
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Shawn Henry wrote: October 21st, 2022, 1:47 am
larsenb wrote: October 20th, 2022, 5:10 pm So, is your position that they were put in the books in order to reinforce the global earth theory in the minds of all those myriad artillery specialists? That would be a stretch.
Even if they don't use them, it would be too easy to have them put in. No one would even question their presence.

It's a total stretch if you believe Satan is only in the spirit world. If you believe he has actual blood lines and organizations that he controls and has built them up throughout time here in the physical world, then it is quite believable.
You evade the question.

Let me ask it more directly: Why do you think they were put in?

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larsenb wrote: October 21st, 2022, 1:44 pm Let me ask it more directly: Why do you think they were put in?
As part of the psychological operation. It's the largest psy-op ever perpetrated on the world.

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Shawn Henry wrote: October 21st, 2022, 3:50 pm
larsenb wrote: October 21st, 2022, 1:44 pm Let me ask it more directly: Why do you think they were put in?
As part of the psychological operation. It's the largest psy-op ever perpetrated on the world.
An interesting question you may want to try and answer, is just when were they introduced into the artillery manuals?

And is it possible, regardless of when they were put in, that their purpose was to cover the bases for the time when artillery ranges were extended far enough, so that the now useless adjustments (based on global earth theory and practices) might take effect . . . .

Also, I get no sense that you understand the argument that the flat-earth hypothesis has no predictive model that could replace the model that is currently used all over the global earth; the model that governs all long-range navigation, satellite orbits, GPS determinations, etc., etc.

My sense is that 'flat earth' is a very minor, but disruptive nonetheless, psy-op that has been introduced. But only one of many.

The largest of these, in my strongly held view, is the global pandemic and the pushing of the clot shots. Extremely well coordinated and universally implemented.

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larsenb wrote: October 21st, 2022, 4:01 pm The largest of these, in my strongly held view, is the global pandemic and the pushing of the clot shots. Extremely well coordinated and universally implemented.
Suppose the moon landing faked, would you think that of a larger scale than the plandemic?

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larsenb wrote: October 21st, 2022, 4:01 pm the flat-earth hypothesis has no predictive model
Is it fair though, to expect that when it is so entirely shunned and kept out on the fringe? It's not like Nasa is going to say, "Hey, guys come on in and use our equipment for a week." Is there a single university in the world that would back any conclusive experiment and not lose their funding? The system is controlled by money.

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Shawn Henry wrote: October 21st, 2022, 4:35 pm
larsenb wrote: October 21st, 2022, 4:01 pm The largest of these, in my strongly held view, is the global pandemic and the pushing of the clot shots. Extremely well coordinated and universally implemented.
Suppose the moon landing faked, would you think that of a larger scale than the plandemic?
No. The plandemic is by far the most far-reaching and damaging 'psyop' you could almost imagine. The moon landings were not faked in my strongly held view and direct/indirect experience. And if they were totally faked, that possibility has not and would not cause the damage that the plandemic and clotshots have caused.

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Shawn Henry wrote: October 21st, 2022, 4:42 pm
larsenb wrote: October 21st, 2022, 4:01 pm the flat-earth hypothesis has no predictive model
Is it fair though, to expect that when it is so entirely shunned and kept out on the fringe? It's not like Nasa is going to say, "Hey, guys come on in and use our equipment for a week." Is there a single university in the world that would back any conclusive experiment and not lose their funding? The system is controlled by money.
Flat earth is shunned and finds itself waaaaaay out on the fringe precisely because it has no predictive model. You've put the cart before the horse.

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Shawn Henry wrote: October 21st, 2022, 12:35 pm
Subcomandante wrote: October 21st, 2022, 6:18 am flat earth "science" falls flat on its face.
Perhaps in your mind my friend, but many highly intelligent people who have looked into it have been convinced. Perhaps you simply watched one YouTube video put together by someone who did not do it well. No matter what the sun's distance away is, there will be trigonometry involved. No math changes the fact that we see overhead above us every day.
I've watched several of them, and I have seen flat earth activists get debunked live.

There are simply many questions that flat earth simply cannot answer by itself.

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Down_the_rabbithole wrote: October 4th, 2022, 10:45 am
If you were taught how gravity works in elementary school, you should share your knowledge as no one (scientists or otherwise) actually understands how it works. It's still very much a mystery. The only thing that is sort of understood is how gavity behaves, which is far from the "what causes its behavior".
Yup

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