"the work of God " !Obeone wrote: ↑September 11th, 2022, 2:59 pmJoseph Smith organized first Church corporation, it was called "Firm" back then. He did it because God commanded him, and because it was the most effective way for the Church to operate in the world.Being There wrote: ↑September 11th, 2022, 10:21 am more like -
"The church WAS true - long long ago,
but fell into apostasy - as the scriptures warned and predicted we would.
There has been NO REVELATION, and The Lord hasn't had anything to do with the church
for over a 100 years !
and it's NOT the Lord's church anymore.
He would be offended - calling such a organization - His church.
It's more a corrupt Worldly organization - with ties and investments in Babylon
with those that control it with their evil plans.
The church is really a corporate conglomerate -
"The Corporation of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter - day Saints.
"The Mormon church is actually a corporate conglomerate.
Behind the religious front are dozens of companies earning hundreds of millions of dollars a year." .
Though Church is in the wilderness, God has not completely forsaken it. The authority is still here. Laugh all you want, you will know your folly later, because this is the work of God.
I think I've heard everything.
It's obvious you don't read nor care about the scriptures.
And even more obvious, that you're the blind following their blind leader.
You don't even have to be smart.
ANYONE with eyes can see for themselves where the church is at
and just how Worldly it is - with all it's investments and ties with Babylon.
I think you better look in the mirror when saying that.Laugh all you want, you will know your folly later
because the work of God, came to an end with the Gentiles long ago -
with the church that became corrupt and fell into apostasy,
and now - The Times of the Gentiles is coming to an end.
and speaking of your folly and the church's -
Isaiah has something to say about that.
They make known the folly and abominations, and the apostasy of the Gentile church.
3 "And all things that he spake HAVE BEEN AND SHALL BE,
even according to the words which he spake." 3 Nephi 23.
3 Nephi 23:1- 4
1 "And now, behold, I say unto you,
that ye ought to search these things.
Yea, a commandment I give unto
you that ye search these things diligently;
for great are the words of Isaiah."
2 "For surely he spake as touching all things
concerning my people which are of the house of Israel;
therefore it must needs be that he must speak
also to the Gentiles."
3 "And all things that he spake have been and shall be,
even according to the words which he spake."
4 "Therefore give heed to my words;
write the things which I have told you;
and according to the time and the will
of the Father they shall go forth unto the Gentiles."
3 Nephi 20:11
11 "Ye remember that I spake unto you,
and said that when the words of Isaiah
should be fulfilled—behold they are written,
ye have them before you, therefore search them-"
ALL THE PROPHECIES OF ISAIAH PERTAIN TO US TODAY
All prophecies in Isaiah are prophecies of the last days.
Isaiah has now been unsealed and brought to light by the Lord for our understanding in these last days.
Isaiah 46
10 I foretell the end from the beginning,
from ancient times things not yet done.
I speak, and my purposes take effect;
I accomplish all my will.
Isaiah 42
9 The prophecies of the former events
indeed came to pass,
but new things I yet foretell.
Before they spring up I declare them to you.
Isaiah 44:7
7 "Who predicts what happens as do I, and is the equal of me in
appointing a people from of old as types, foretelling things to come?
Isaiah uses what are called types from the past to show the future.
What has happened before, will happen again.
Isaiah’s Prophecy Relates to Two Time Frames Simultaneously,
(1) Isaiah’s day; and (2) “the last days” or “end-time” NOW !
"The leaders of these people have misled them, and those who are led are confused” (Isaiah 9:13–16).
"O you deaf, listen; O you blind, look and see! seeing much but not giving heed, with open ears hearing nothing?”
(Isaiah 42:17–20).
He IS speaking about the church and it's leaders - The Drunkards of Ephraim.
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Isaiah 28 exposes the follies of the "Drunkards of Ephraim! " (church leaders)
Isaiah 28
Ephraim and its prophets reap disaster for being delusional and for rejecting divine revelation.
https://www.isaiahexplained.com/chapter/28
I find it absurd that some, (the "all is well in Zion" crowd ) can say that Isaiah 28 has nothing to do with the church,
while the church itself says that Isaiah 29 does.
quote
"First we must note here that Isaiah is speaking to "the drunkards of Ephraim”.
There is no question that the Latter-Day Saints refer to themselves as “Ephraim” and there is no question that the Church teaches that the very next chapter of Isaiah (chapter 29) refers to our day or the coming forth of the Church, and the Book of Mormon. Therefore, it would seem quite logical that Isaiah 28 would also refer to Ephraim of our day."
taken from: LDS Seminary Student Study Guide
"Isaiah 29 is one place in the Bible where the Book of Mormon is referred to, even though it is not mentioned by name.
As you read this chapter, look for prophecies of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon and the impact this book will have on the world."
If you want a big wake up call please read and study the 28th chapter of Isaiah,
it will reveal that every word applies to our church in these days
and to no other people.
Isaiah cites that this people would be given "precept upon precept;
precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little and there a little."
These identical words, were used by the Prophet Joseph Smith among his closing instructions
to the latter day saints, warning us to go forward not backward. D.C.128:21-22 ; 2Nephi 28:30
That's where the Lord has laid a trap for us.
Isaiah 28:13 "But the word of the Lord was unto them
precept upon precept, precept upon precept;
line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little;
that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken,
and snared, and taken."