my viewpoint on baptism differs from yours. It wouldn't be a productive conversation to engage this subject. Hope is perfect because it comes from a perfect Father. The Father's plan is perfect. No worries, we all go home in due time. Time is the tool for remembering our Father and his son Jesus Christ.Chris wrote: ↑September 15th, 2022, 9:17 pmSure so how does one get baptised to enter his kingdom? Christ did say you cant even see heaven without it. Are you saying christ is going to come down from heaven to baptize you? If not arent you going to hell?FrankOne wrote: ↑September 15th, 2022, 9:03 pmChrist has done the work to deliver us. We can accept it or deny it. It's up to us as individuals and has nothing to do with men spiritually leading other men. There is no other intermediary between God and Man. Christ is the only name and means by which salvation comes.Chris wrote: ↑September 15th, 2022, 8:46 pmWell, why stop there. Lets continue with your logic. Why do you need a savior i mean come on give me a break. Why do you need someone to tell you what to do and give you commandments. He never lives up to your expectations right. Who needs a narrow path, with prophets, order, and expectations....FrankOne wrote: ↑September 6th, 2022, 11:30 am After having read and participated in this thread , I honestly cannot understand why people need to have a man to lead them in spiritual affairs. There is only one reason that people defend the leadership of the LDS or ANY church is because they "need" their leader in order to feel better about their lives, and when that leader's authority is threatened or destroyed, the member's faith is crushed to dust.
If there comes an epoch event of biblical proportions and a true end times Prophet stands up to set things in order for the return of Christ, I'll certainly listen with open ears, but if he tells me that we need to go kill every living thing in a city, unborn and born babies etc....and mop up the blood and move into their houses, I'll still walk away as I would have done in the account of Joshua. Yah, I question everything that violates moral law whether they be "Gods" or men.
Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?
Why not go full libtard spiritualism, denounce all men and all gods. Let universe guide your inklings and lead your path to enlightenment. I mean come on to hell with baptism by proper authority, to hell with temples and priesthood ordinances...... they are all alters of satan and vain leadership that have nothing better to do then committ sin and act like prophets. Right? To hell with all them right and this stupid church joseph established who was a prophet and daniel said would roll forwatd, nut what tge hell do they know. They sure screwed up big time. This is what you guys sound like.
You guys and your bashing of christ anoited and his church knows no bounds.
Pretty black and white. Was christ wrong?
If not, then who is going to baptize you and why is that okay?
Thanks for the conversation.