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What would you say if you were told that all we need to do is be in line with the “[unspecified] standards of the church”?
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Jonesy wrote: August 20th, 2022, 11:06 pm What would you say if you were told that all we need to do is be in line with the “standards of the church”?
The minimum standards?

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What standards are we talking about?

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Atticus wrote: August 20th, 2022, 11:39 pm
Jonesy wrote: August 20th, 2022, 11:06 pm What would you say if you were told that all we need to do is be in line with the “standards of the church”?
The minimum standards?
Unspecified…but, sure, let’s say that for sake of discussion. What is the maximum standard of the church?

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Jonesy wrote: August 21st, 2022, 12:03 am
Atticus wrote: August 20th, 2022, 11:39 pm
Jonesy wrote: August 20th, 2022, 11:06 pm What would you say if you were told that all we need to do is be in line with the “standards of the church”?
The minimum standards?
Unspecified…but, sure, let’s say that for sake of discussion. What is the maximum standard of the church?
I don’t know that there is one.

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Jonesy wrote: August 20th, 2022, 11:06 pm What would you say if you were told that all we need to do is be in line with the “[unspecified] standards of the church”?
All we need to do is come unto Christ, be perfected in Him, deny (myself) all ungodliness . -for starters---that's what I would say

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Jonesy wrote: August 20th, 2022, 11:06 pm What would you say if you were told that all we need to do is be in line with the “[unspecified] standards of the church”?
I would say somebody is gaslighting.

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Jonesy wrote: August 20th, 2022, 11:06 pm What would you say if you were told that all we need to do is be in line with the “[unspecified] standards of the church”?
Told by who?

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nightlight wrote: August 21st, 2022, 11:31 am
Jonesy wrote: August 20th, 2022, 11:06 pm What would you say if you were told that all we need to do is be in line with the “[unspecified] standards of the church”?
Told by who?
By the gospel doctrine teacher. It was part of his closing comments. Like some here, I was left wondering what that even means. It’s been a while since I’ve attended church, but to be honest, I enjoy going now more than ever. I feel encouraged more to change/repent myself—more so because when I go, I’m concerned by the lack of discussion of anything of substance and it forces me to self reflect and change myself.

In this same lesson, the same guy made a comment that he grew up in a rural area where he never knew of anyone who got divorced. Then when a family finally did move in under those circumstances, he had to be taught that it’s ok if some males don’t wear white shirts because he later found out that they were too poor to buy them. I was the only male not wearing a white shirt in the class. I stuck out pretty well in a dark blue polo. Now it’s just going to be fun attending. I actually feel more emboldened to comment now. I’ve made comments in the past where I really felt the Spirit, and I’m inclined to make more concentrated efforts to continue to do so. I just have to make sure I’m not overbearing and align my actions to what I know to be true. Should be good.

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Jonesy wrote: August 20th, 2022, 11:06 pm What would you say if you were told that all we need to do is be in line with the “[unspecified] standards of the church”?
I’d say, “Only according to someone who’s false god is the church.”

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It all depends. It seems often (most times) when someone in leadership says some things, I already agree and cannot argue as I already know it is true (morality, honor, frugality, independence, etc....). Other times I don't see it their way. Then I pray about it. If I am inclined and the spirit says anything at all, I will accept it. If it is something I disagree with then I will nee an abundance of the spirit to change my mind (likely my weakness like many on this forum).

So, it seems true comprehension takes energy and time and effort, while either dismissing something because you've lost faith in the leader(s) or just accepting it because of their title is much easier. Interesting that we have all three positions on this forum. Most are in the middle, often the silent majority I think anyway.

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I went to church again today. I was content with staying quiet and just listening but I couldn’t help myself. I felt my words I spoke validated by the Spirit. I guess I won’t be quiet anymore. I’m terrible at speaking out, but I feel I’m more able to get my words across with clarity. Whatever is in my heart to say, I’m going to say it! See how it goes…

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