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This is a new video from JP Sears that is very timely.

JP notes that there is a deep divide among people all over. Some see evil, while others don't! Those who recognize evil are able to defend themselves against it, while those that are blind to evil become subject to it. This has been my observation, as well as many of yours, too. It cuts right through wards, even.

My friend who died of cancer several years ago used to joke "JP is a prophet". He was kind of right, or maybe really right:


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Chip wrote: August 17th, 2022, 11:29 am This is a new video from JP Sears that is very timely.

JP notes that there is a deep divide among people all over. Some see evil, while others don't! Those who recognize evil are able to defend themselves against it, while those that are blind to evil become subject to it. This has been my observation, as well as many of yours, too. It cuts right through wards, even.

My friend who died of cancer several years ago used to joke "JP is a prophet". He was kind of right, or maybe really right:

That was a good video.

I think he speaks for a lot of people.

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This is great. Great job, JP. It’s amazing to see people become more converted to the truth.

Speaking for myself, I read all the evidence against the vaccines (for example), and it’s still relatively unconvincing. It’s hard to be swayed completely one way or the other. I don’t believe after all the known evidence we have that there’s a solid enough case. I know that’s heresy around here—just what I believe. The only thing that sets the bar is the convincing power of Christ. Maybe it’s just part of the process.

That’s why JP’s message resonates more with me. I believe that the closer to the changes that are coming that some will experience, more sicknesses will come, and part of why people now being effected by normal sicknesses is the vaccines. But man will not understand that nor will it be admitted to. We all need to repent and turn to God since He is the defining factor in it all. Boldly claiming that he exists.
9 Believe in God; believe that he is, and that he created all things, both in heaven and in earth; believe that he has all wisdom, and all power, both in heaven and in earth; believe that man doth not comprehend all the things which the Lord can comprehend.

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Chip wrote: August 17th, 2022, 11:29 am This is a new video from JP Sears that is very timely.

JP notes that there is a deep divide among people all over. Some see evil, while others don't! Those who recognize evil are able to defend themselves against it, while those that are blind to evil become subject to it. This has been my observation, as well as many of yours, too. It cuts right through wards, even.

My friend who died of cancer several years ago used to joke "JP is a prophet". He was kind of right, or maybe really right:

But, but President Nelson said to take the vaccines. They must be good for us.

But, but President Nelson didn't say we had to take the vaccines. He might have lied, but it was for our own good and to protect the Church.

If you can't see the truth you can't see the lies. The truth, which Jesus taught, is,
44 ​​Therefore, let every man stand or fall, by himself, and not for another; or not trusting another.​
​​​45 ​​Seek unto my Father, and it shall be done in that very moment what ye shall ask, if ye ask in faith, believing that ye shall receive.​
​​​46 ​And if thine eye ​which seeth for thee, him that is appointed to watch over thee to show thee light, become a transgressor and​ offend thee, pluck ​him​ out.
JST Mark 9:44-46

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Atrasado wrote: August 18th, 2022, 7:52 am
Chip wrote: August 17th, 2022, 11:29 am This is a new video from JP Sears that is very timely.

JP notes that there is a deep divide among people all over. Some see evil, while others don't! Those who recognize evil are able to defend themselves against it, while those that are blind to evil become subject to it. This has been my observation, as well as many of yours, too. It cuts right through wards, even.

My friend who died of cancer several years ago used to joke "JP is a prophet". He was kind of right, or maybe really right:

But, but President Nelson said to take the vaccines. They must be good for us.

But, but President Nelson didn't say we had to take the vaccines. He might have lied, but it was for our own good and to protect the Church.

If you can't see the truth you can't see the lies. The truth, which Jesus taught, is,
44 ​​Therefore, let every man stand or fall, by himself, and not for another; or not trusting another.​
​​​45 ​​Seek unto my Father, and it shall be done in that very moment what ye shall ask, if ye ask in faith, believing that ye shall receive.​
​​​46 ​And if thine eye ​which seeth for thee, him that is appointed to watch over thee to show thee light, become a transgressor and​ offend thee, pluck ​him​ out.
JST Mark 9:44-46

That is an awesome scripture which has huge application today.

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Like I said on the other post for this video:

This man is more of a prophet of God than all of our Q15 combined.

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Let me give some explanation to my above comment.


One of the purposes of a true prophet of God is to warn ACCURATELY the ways satan tries to deceive TODAY. To stand as a watchman on the watchtower. JP ACCURATELY describes the ways in which satan tries to deceive TODAY. Our church leaders do not. Which is why you see so many members who have been led carefully down to hell. Until our Q15 starts speaking like this man, our people are lost.


I encourage everyone to prayerfully watch this video and share it with all of your friends and family.

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From InfoWarrior82: "Like I said on the other post for this video: This man is more of a prophet of God than all of our Q15 combined." "JP ACCURATELY describes the ways in which satan tries to deceive TODAY. Our church leaders do not. Which is why you see so many members who have been led carefully down to hell. Until our Q15 starts speaking like this man, our people are lost."

I'm right there with you. JP is more prophetic than all of the GC talks put together. He seems to prophesy, see and reveal: What a concept. And he recognizes and reveals the evil and the ludicrous blindness of today, especially regarding msxs, vxns and freedom. It's refreshing. Not to mention, he's better looking, funny, more interesting and way more masculine. Just sayin'.

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NowWhat wrote: August 18th, 2022, 3:58 pm From InfoWarrior82: "Like I said on the other post for this video: This man is more of a prophet of God than all of our Q15 combined." "JP ACCURATELY describes the ways in which satan tries to deceive TODAY. Our church leaders do not. Which is why you see so many members who have been led carefully down to hell. Until our Q15 starts speaking like this man, our people are lost."

I'm right there with you. JP is more prophetic than all of the GC talks put together. He seems to prophesy, see and reveal: What a concept. And he recognizes and reveals the evil and the ludicrous blindness of today, especially regarding msxs, vxns and freedom. It's refreshing. Not to mention, he's better looking, funny, more interesting and way more masculine. Just sayin'.

But, HOW COULD THIS BE???

We are awaiting word through PROPER CHANNELS of PRIESTHOOD AUTHORITY. That is how we will learn, not through some red-headed hippy on YouTube. No way!

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If they scoff or scorn at free agency, that is a major sign of evils influence.

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As long as there is a democrat in the Q15, they will be disciples of satan. Abortion, labor unions, big government, loss of freedom, etc, are all pure evil. As long as the Q15 and satan believe in all of the same principles and practices, there can be no room for God in the Q15. Biden, Hillary, Soros, Schwab, Epstein, et. al. may as well speak in conference. There is no difference in opinion among them.

As long as socialism is the policy, only satan is present.

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Fred wrote: August 19th, 2022, 4:26 am As long as there is a democrat in the Q15, they will be disciples of satan. Abortion, labor unions, big government, loss of freedom, etc, are all pure evil. As long as the Q15 and satan believe in all of the same principles and practices, there can be no room for God in the Q15. Biden, Hillary, Soros, Schwab, Epstein, et. al. may as well speak in conference. There is no difference in opinion among them.

As long as socialism is the policy, only satan is present.
I’ve never thought about it like that. But you hit the nail on the head - there is no difference between people if they share the same doctrine. I’ve heard “safe and effective”, “agenda 2030”, “WEF”, “UN”, etc from Hillary, RMN, Soros, Renlund, Schwab, Cook, Epstein, Uchtdorf. Wow! Now there’s a dose of reality!

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I was lucky to subscribe to his channel long before he got into this. He was sending up the New Age, vegans etc back then and I found him funny. I think he did a misstep with promoting BLM (I believe BLM is not just an attack on whites but also undermines black self-determination. It's also top down, funded by billionaires and corporations and used to promote unimpeded immigration.)

These days, he does on point satires of some of the stupidity we are seeing around us. He says it better than I can. If you want a good one on the so called vaccines, look up his life jacket video.

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Niemand wrote: August 19th, 2022, 9:15 am I was lucky to subscribe to his channel long before he got into this. He was sending up the New Age, vegans etc back then and I found him funny. I think he did a misstep with promoting BLM (I believe BLM is not just an attack on whites but also undermines black self-determination. It's also top down, funded by billionaires and corporations and used to promote unimpeded immigration.)

These days, he does on point satires of some of the stupidity we are seeing around us. He says it better than I can. If you want a good one on the so called vaccines, look up his life jacket video.
He also thought that the 2nd amendment was silly at one time too. He's been fully converted. This man is a great example of what a real-time redpilling looks like.

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: August 19th, 2022, 9:22 am
Niemand wrote: August 19th, 2022, 9:15 am I was lucky to subscribe to his channel long before he got into this. He was sending up the New Age, vegans etc back then and I found him funny. I think he did a misstep with promoting BLM (I believe BLM is not just an attack on whites but also undermines black self-determination. It's also top down, funded by billionaires and corporations and used to promote unimpeded immigration.)

These days, he does on point satires of some of the stupidity we are seeing around us. He says it better than I can. If you want a good one on the so called vaccines, look up his life jacket video.
He also thought that the 2nd amendment was silly at one time too. He's been fully converted. This man is a great example of what a real-time redpilling looks like.
Exactly. He's a great example of what any truth loving and God fearing man should support 👍

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: August 19th, 2022, 9:22 am
Niemand wrote: August 19th, 2022, 9:15 am I was lucky to subscribe to his channel long before he got into this. He was sending up the New Age, vegans etc back then and I found him funny. I think he did a misstep with promoting BLM (I believe BLM is not just an attack on whites but also undermines black self-determination. It's also top down, funded by billionaires and corporations and used to promote unimpeded immigration.)

These days, he does on point satires of some of the stupidity we are seeing around us. He says it better than I can. If you want a good one on the so called vaccines, look up his life jacket video.
He also thought that the 2nd amendment was silly at one time too. He's been fully converted. This man is a great example of what a real-time redpilling looks like.
His trajectory makes good sense too. He was into natural health and so he found the whole injection thing sketchy, and then as a comedian he notices censorship. His comedy was never the run of the mill type stuff, so he was always slightly out there.

I've been very surprised at where I have seen opposition to this takeover coming from. I've devout Christian (not just LDS) friends who have been hoodwinked, and I still pray for them, whereas people I know who are more on the New Agey and apparently unchristian end are picking up on the spiritual battle which has increased recently. I also have friends who do drugs and are into avant garde stuff who tell me that they've noticed something's wrong - one of them confided their views to me and said, "You're not alone." I know people who were firmly on the left nearly all their days who are being labelled right wing, and are being changed by the experience.

Others so fit the stereotypes better but it's interesting who doesn't.

I've often heard it said that we will be surprised who is with us, wherever we go after this life. Jesus' statements about the first being last and the Prodigal Son make good sense in these days.

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Atrasado wrote: August 18th, 2022, 7:52 am
Chip wrote: August 17th, 2022, 11:29 am This is a new video from JP Sears that is very timely.

JP notes that there is a deep divide among people all over. Some see evil, while others don't! Those who recognize evil are able to defend themselves against it, while those that are blind to evil become subject to it. This has been my observation, as well as many of yours, too. It cuts right through wards, even.

My friend who died of cancer several years ago used to joke "JP is a prophet". He was kind of right, or maybe really right:

But, but President Nelson said to take the vaccines. They must be good for us.

But, but President Nelson didn't say we had to take the vaccines. He might have lied, but it was for our own good and to protect the Church.

If you can't see the truth you can't see the lies. The truth, which Jesus taught, is,
44 ​​Therefore, let every man stand or fall, by himself, and not for another; or not trusting another.​
​​​45 ​​Seek unto my Father, and it shall be done in that very moment what ye shall ask, if ye ask in faith, believing that ye shall receive.​
​​​46 ​And if thine eye ​which seeth for thee, him that is appointed to watch over thee to show thee light, become a transgressor and​ offend thee, pluck ​him​ out.
JST Mark 9:44-46
well this thread started good until you hijacked. and, he wasn't the only church leader that told people to get vaxxed. Millions of leaders told their people to get vaxxed prophet derangement syndrome

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: August 19th, 2022, 9:22 am
Niemand wrote: August 19th, 2022, 9:15 am I was lucky to subscribe to his channel long before he got into this. He was sending up the New Age, vegans etc back then and I found him funny. I think he did a misstep with promoting BLM (I believe BLM is not just an attack on whites but also undermines black self-determination. It's also top down, funded by billionaires and corporations and used to promote unimpeded immigration.)

These days, he does on point satires of some of the stupidity we are seeing around us. He says it better than I can. If you want a good one on the so called vaccines, look up his life jacket video.
He also thought that the 2nd amendment was silly at one time too. He's been fully converted. This man is a great example of what a real-time redpilling looks like.
well this thread started good until you hijacked. and, he wasn't the only church leader that told people to get vaxxed. Millions of leaders told their people to get vaxxed prophet derangement syndrome

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EvanLM wrote: August 19th, 2022, 1:38 pm
Atrasado wrote: August 18th, 2022, 7:52 am
Chip wrote: August 17th, 2022, 11:29 am This is a new video from JP Sears that is very timely.

JP notes that there is a deep divide among people all over. Some see evil, while others don't! Those who recognize evil are able to defend themselves against it, while those that are blind to evil become subject to it. This has been my observation, as well as many of yours, too. It cuts right through wards, even.

My friend who died of cancer several years ago used to joke "JP is a prophet". He was kind of right, or maybe really right:

But, but President Nelson said to take the vaccines. They must be good for us.

But, but President Nelson didn't say we had to take the vaccines. He might have lied, but it was for our own good and to protect the Church.

If you can't see the truth you can't see the lies. The truth, which Jesus taught, is,
44 ​​Therefore, let every man stand or fall, by himself, and not for another; or not trusting another.​
​​​45 ​​Seek unto my Father, and it shall be done in that very moment what ye shall ask, if ye ask in faith, believing that ye shall receive.​
​​​46 ​And if thine eye ​which seeth for thee, him that is appointed to watch over thee to show thee light, become a transgressor and​ offend thee, pluck ​him​ out.
JST Mark 9:44-46
well this thread started good until you hijacked. and, he wasn't the only church leader that told people to get vaxxed. Millions of leaders told their people to get vaxxed prophet derangement syndrome
I'm just calling it like I see it. Deuteronomy 18 has a very high standard for those who speak in the name of the Lord and don't speak the truth. Deuteronomy doesn't give an out for honest mistakes. It's obvious that they either didn't have all the facts or they purposely lied and it breaks my heart.

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I watched the video a few days ago. I'm glad to see a couple of threads on it.

This was my takeaway:
  • 1. God is about freedom and the devil is about control.
    2. Recognize the deception
    3. Evil doesn't look like evil; it looks like good (granted, some evil is obvious to many people, but the most effective evil appears to be something good)
    4. The devil masquerades as an angel of light
    5. Evil controls the ignorant (Joseph Smith said if you don't have enough knowledge, devils can control you)
    6. Evildoers try to eliminate God
    7. Evildoers want you disconnected from God
    8. If you're blind to God, you can also be blind to Satan
    9. Evil sometimes looks insurmountable, but God is all-powerful
    10. God is on our side

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EvanLM wrote: August 19th, 2022, 1:38 pm
InfoWarrior82 wrote: August 19th, 2022, 9:22 am
Niemand wrote: August 19th, 2022, 9:15 am I was lucky to subscribe to his channel long before he got into this. He was sending up the New Age, vegans etc back then and I found him funny. I think he did a misstep with promoting BLM (I believe BLM is not just an attack on whites but also undermines black self-determination. It's also top down, funded by billionaires and corporations and used to promote unimpeded immigration.)

These days, he does on point satires of some of the stupidity we are seeing around us. He says it better than I can. If you want a good one on the so called vaccines, look up his life jacket video.
He also thought that the 2nd amendment was silly at one time too. He's been fully converted. This man is a great example of what a real-time redpilling looks like.
well this thread started good until you hijacked. and, he wasn't the only church leader that told people to get vaxxed. Millions of leaders told their people to get vaxxed prophet derangement syndrome
Yes, a lot of church leaders told their people to get vaxxed. Why? Because they are no different from our church leaders. I apologize if I derailed the conversation.

Why would it be considered to be "prophet derangement syndrome" if those that call themselves prophets do no such thing? You might actually have a point if they had the fruits of prophets and people were still doubting them.

Quick question: how old are you and is English your first language? I think having the answer to these questions will resolve the belief that you're simply an AI chatbot.

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: August 19th, 2022, 8:40 pm Quick question: how old are you and is English your first language? I think having the answer to these questions will resolve the belief that you're simply an AI chatbot.
I'm quite sure she's a real woman from the USA. Just has a different opinion from you in this area.

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One thing that stood out to me in this video...

*Those who cannot recognize evil, have been cut off from God's light and truth.*

One of the two ways that I know that one is cut off from God's light and truth is through willing transgression. If the prophets and apostles can't recognize evil when it is staring at them in the face, then that could mean they have been cut off from God's light and truth through their own wickedness.

And the other.. through unwillingness to learn and remain ignorant. This is a sign of arrogance and pride.

I go back and forth every day between
1. They are ignorant
2. They are wicked and know exactly what they are doing.

I think understanding WHY people cannot recognize evil can be an indicator of their standing with God.
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InfoWarrior82 wrote: August 20th, 2022, 4:08 pm I go back and forth every day between
1. They are ignorant
2. They are wicked and know exactly what they are doing.

I think understanding WHY people cannot recognize evil is a sure indicator, and gives away a person's standing with God.
I get this because I don't really know how much is ignorance and how much is knowing exactly what they're doing.

Sort of reminds me of this from the Book of Mormon (the more I read that book, lately, the more I am convinced Nephi and Moroni and probably others saw our day - from Joseph Smith's time up until we are destroyed, and beyond).
Behold, the Lord hath shown unto me great and marvelous things concerning that which must shortly come, at that day when these things shall come forth among you. Behold, I speak unto you as if ye were present, and yet ye are not. But behold, Jesus Christ hath shown you unto me, and I know your doing. And I know that ye do walk in the pride of your hearts; and there are none save a few only who do not lift themselves up in the pride of their hearts, unto the wearing of very fine apparel, unto envying, and strifes, and malice, and persecutions, and all manner of iniquities; and your churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of your hearts. For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and the needy, the sick and the afflicted.

O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for that which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God? Why are ye ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ? Why do ye not think that greater is the value of an endless happiness than that misery which never dies—because of the praise of the world? Why do ye adorn yourselves with that which hath no life, and yet suffer the hungry, and the needy, and the naked, and the sick and the afflicted to pass by you, and notice them not? Yea, why do ye build up your secret abominations to get gain, and cause that widows should mourn before the Lord, and also orphans to mourn before the Lord, and also the blood of their fathers and their husbands to cry unto the Lord from the ground, for vengeance upon your heads? Behold, the sword of vengeance hangeth over you; and the time soon cometh that he avengeth the blood of the saints upon you, for he will not suffer their cries any longer.
Mormon 8:34-41

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And the Lord would not suffer that they should stop beyond the sea in the wilderness, but he would that they should come forth even unto the land of promise, which was choice above all other lands, which the Lord God had preserved for a righteous people. And he had sworn in his wrath unto the brother of Jared, that whoso should possess this land of promise, from that time henceforth and forever, should serve him, the true and only God, or they should be swept off when the fulness of his wrath should come upon them.

And now, we can behold the decrees of God concerning this land, that it is a land of promise; and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall serve God, or they shall be swept off when the fulness of his wrath shall come upon them. And the fulness of his wrath cometh upon them when they are ripened in iniquity. For behold, this is a land which is choice above all other lands; wherefore he that doth possess it shall serve God or shall be swept off; for it is the everlasting decree of God. And it is not until the fulness of iniquity among the children of the land, that they are swept off.

nd this cometh unto you, O ye Gentiles, that ye may know the decrees of God—that ye may repent, and not continue in your iniquities until the fulness come, that ye may not bring down the fulness of the wrath of God upon you as the inhabitants of the land have hitherto done. Behold, this is a choice land, and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall be free from bondage, and from captivity, and from all other nations under heaven, if they will but serve the God of the land, who is Jesus Christ, who hath been manifested by the things which we have written.
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