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Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?

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All we have yet heard and we have experienced is scarcely a preface to the sermon that is going to be preached. When the testimony of the Elders ceases to be given, and the Lord says to them, “Come home; I will now preach my own sermons to the nations of the earth,” all you now know can scarcely be called a preface to the sermon that will be preached with fire and sword, tempests, earthquakes, hail, rain, thunders and lightnings, and fearful destruction. What matters the destruction of a few railway cars? You will hear of magnificent cities, now idolized by the people, sinking in the earth, entombing the inhabitants. The sea will heave itself beyond its bounds, engulfing mighty cities. Famine will spread over the nations and nation will rise up against nation, kingdom against kingdom and states against states, in our own country and in foreign lands; and they will destroy each other, caring not for the blood and lives of their neighbors, of their families, or for their own lives...
As it is right now it seems most of the inhabitants of America "care not for their own blood", as we are
butchers of our own offspring by the countless millions. So how can the Spirit of God abide in us, as a nation....
Roe vs Wade may have been overturned but it has not slowed down the "legal" methods of murder, ie, the pill etc. What was I reading some time ago, around 65 plus millions of American women on the pill? Sickening.

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mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 8:40 am Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?
When it comes to rioting in the streets, it's probably going to depend on the city. But the triggers I'm watching for are some kind of earthquake or tsunami on the West Coast that would cripple our supply chain, and war starting in the Middle East and Pacific where our military gets involved. I'm watching North/South Korea and Tel Aviv.

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Sarah wrote: August 7th, 2022, 9:07 am
mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 8:40 am Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?
When it comes to rioting in the streets, it's probably going to depend on the city. But the triggers I'm watching for are some kind of earthquake or tsunami on the West Coast that would cripple our supply chain, and war starting in the Middle East and Pacific where our military gets involved. I'm watching North/South Korea and Tel Aviv.
I always have watch dates too. And I mentioned in another post back in June that I was watching July 4 and Oct 1 for war to start, because I believe it will be around someone's independence day. (Oct 1 is China's) But I noticed that Aug 15 is North and South Korea's, so now that is a high watch day for me. And Aug 11 might be the West Coast Event given some things I was just looking at - predictive programming and hints from the dark side etc. 😉
The year 2023 is a 322 which is the skull n bones number, so that's their year I believe to try to take over. They are all working together at the moment -whore and beast. But not for long.

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mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 8:40 am Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?
The trigger point will be when foreign countries no longer accept the dollar.

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mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 8:40 am Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?
I hope, like Lehi and his family, that while we know "Jerusalem" will be destroyed, we will be quite disentangled from Babylon when it happens.

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Civil unrest is coming and we got a sneak-peak of it in 2020 with all the "peaceful protests". Modern-day society is in decline and trending towards total collapse.

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Atrasado wrote: August 7th, 2022, 12:19 pm
mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 8:40 am Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?
The trigger point will be when foreign countries no longer accept the dollar.
well that already happened, then - half the world now buys their oil with something other than the dollar. Or maybe you mean when "none of them" accept it anymore?

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mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 2:34 pm
Atrasado wrote: August 7th, 2022, 12:19 pm
mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 8:40 am Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?
The trigger point will be when foreign countries no longer accept the dollar.
well that already happened, then - half the world now buys their oil with something other than the dollar. Or maybe you mean when "none of them" accept it anymore?
A large majority. As long as Saudi Arabia still mostly sells oil in dollars and China still sells finished goods in dollars I don't expect hyperinflation. Once those two nations no longer take dollars at all comes the deluge.

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I don't think we will awaken to our awful situation as a whole until we hit rock bottom and the very depths of hell. Ignorance, arrogance, and wickedness got us here. Until then plan on being called a conspiracy theorist when conspiracy is right in front of our faces. Too many people don't know how to think for themselves and don't have a lick of common sense.

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Raiding Trump’s home is throwing down the gauntlet to civil unrest.

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mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 8:40 am Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?
Isaiah has some interesting things to say about this. This is from the Gileadi translation of Isaiah and the Apocalyptic Commentary of the Book of Isaiah. The part in italics is the verse and the part following the verse is the explanation. Note that the term, "Egyptians," is a code word for the United States.

19:2–3 I will stir up the Egyptians against the Egyptians; they will fight brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor, city against city and state against state. Egypt’s spirit shall be drained from within; I will frustrate their plans, and they will resort to the idols and to spiritists, to mediums and witchcraft.

Anarchy and civil war in the great superpower of the world form the prelude to its desolation. As much of the land is destroyed from within, Egypt’s enemies see their chance to invade from without. When Jehovah withdraws his Spirit because of a people’s evildoing, they are left to their own devices. Their alienation causes Jehovah to close the heavens. They lose the light they once had, and a man’s adversaries become those of his own people. Desperate, they turn to false channels of information—idols, spiritists, mediums, and witchcraft—only to compound their plight (Isaiah 8:19–20; 42:17; 44:17; 45:20).

19:4 Then will I deliver the Egyptians into the hand of a cruel master; a harsh ruler will subject them, says the Lord, Jehovah of Hosts.

The nation of Egypt in Isaiah’s day was ruled by a non-native Afro-Egyptian (Cushite) pharaoh of Egypt’s 25th dynasty (760–656 B.C.) (cf. Isaiah 18:1; 20:3–5). This was a period of extensive government programs but of moral decline that set the stage for Assyria’s invasion and conquest of Egypt. Like ancient Egypt, end-time “Egypt” deteriorates politically (vv 11–15), experiences economic hardship (vv 8–10), and suffers severe drought conditions (vv 5–7). Egypt—the breadbasket of the world—is reduced to poverty. Only the God of Israel, who rules over all nations, is able to save Egypt (vv 20–24).

19:5–7 The waters of the lakes shall ebb away as stream beds become desolate and dry. The rivers shall turn foul, and Egypt’s waterways recede and dry up. Reeds and rushes shall wither; vegetation adjoining canals and estuaries, and all things sown along irrigation channels, shall shrivel and blow away and be no more.

The covenant curse of withering vegetation—synchronized with a plethora of other misfortunes—afflicts Egypt as its vibrant society wanes like the vegetation itself. Egypt’s flora epitomize the transitory nature of life for its corrupt inhabitants (cf. Isaiah 5:24; 37:27; 40:6–8, 24). Foliage that “shrivels and blows away and is no more” typifies the fate awaiting them and all who comprise Greater Babylon. Egypt’s bodies of water that dry up and rivers that turn foul, too, are a metaphor of its people (cf. Isaiah 18:2, 7; 37:25; 42:15), their pollution and evaporation signifying their descent into chaos.

19:8–10 Fishermen will deplore [their lot] and anglers in canals bemoan themselves; those who cast nets on water will be in misery. Manufacturers of combed linen and weavers of fine fabrics will be dismayed. The textile workers will know despair, and all who work for wages suffer distress.

A supremely industrialized and agricultural land, Egypt spirals into decay. Where once there existed plenty, now a dearth prevails. Where once Egyptians were gainfully employed, now they remain idle. Even traditionally staple livelihoods disappear. A spirit of “misery,” “dismay,” “despair,” and “distress” pervades Egypt’s society (v 3). A hitherto highly prosperous nation is imploding, leaving its large populace without seeming recourse (v 15). Like all who make up Greater Babylon, Egypt—the most elite of nations—is rendered wretched as Jehovah’s judgments come upon her (cf. Isaiah 24:4; 32:10).

19:11–13 The ministers of Zoan are utter fools; the wisest of Pharaoh’s advisers give absurd counsel. How can you say to Pharaoh, We ourselves are as wise as the first rulers? Where are your wise men indeed? Let them please tell you, if they can discern it, what Jehovah of Hosts has in mind for Egypt! The ministers of Zoan have been foolish, the officials of Noph deluded; the heads of state have led Egypt astray.

In Egypt’s political capital, Pharaoh and his advisers follow foolish policies in their attempts at economic recovery, further exacerbating Egypt’s problems. Considering themselves as wise as Egypt’s founding fathers, they act presumptuously, only to lead Egypt deeper into ruin. Deviating from well-proven principles—relying instead on their own wisdom—they and their remedial strategies cause a loss of confidence in the nation, leading to anarchy and civil war (vv 2–3). If Pharaoh and his advisers are indeed as wise as they regard themselves, then let them predict what Jehovah has in store for Egypt!

19:14–15 Jehovah has permeated them with a spirit of confusion; they have misled Egypt in all that she does, causing her to stagger like a drunkard into his vomit. And there shall be nothing the Egyptians can do about it, neither head nor tail, palm top or reed.

Egypt’s ruling elite resemble disoriented persons possessed by a spirit of confusion who lead an entire nation astray, politically and economically. The people’s cumulative guilt has reached its saturation point. Only Jehovah’s judgments can cleanse the nation of its wickedness and idolatry (v 3). The motifs of a “drunkard” who “staggers” into his “vomit” link the nation of Egypt to Jehovah’s people of the tribe of Ephraim and to Ephraim’s intoxicated prophets (Isaiah 28:1, 3, 7–8; 56:10–12). The “head” and “tail,” “palm top” and “reed” allude to the people’s leaders (Isaiah 7:8–9; 9:14–15; 36:6).

19:16–17 In that day the Egyptians will be as women, fearful and afraid at the brandishing hand Jehovah of Hosts wields over them. The land of Judah shall become a source of terror to the Egyptians; all reminded of it shall dread what Jehovah of Hosts has in store for them.

The Egyptians’ behaving as women in that “day”—Jehovah’s Day of Judgment—implies not only fear in the face of danger but transgender issues. The hand Jehovah of Hosts wields over them identifies the king of Assyria/Babylon, who threatens to invade Egypt and all the lands that comprise Isaiah’s Greater Babylon. The “land of Judah” represents those parts of the world the archtyrant conquers first before invading Egypt, as Assyria did anciently. What Jehovah has “in store,” which causes “terror” and

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The evil FBI is a communist terrorist organization. The IRS is as well and has been weaponized by the communists. Did you know it's legal for them to shoot you dead? The usa is entirely lost at this point and will remain so unless the 2020 election is brought back and the entire federal government expunged. State's Rights is back on the menu boys.

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Rumpelstiltskin wrote: August 8th, 2022, 10:12 pm
mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 8:40 am Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?
Isaiah has some interesting things to say about this. This is from the Gileadi translation of Isaiah and the Apocalyptic Commentary of the Book of Isaiah. The part in italics is the verse and the part following the verse is the explanation. Note that the term, "Egyptians," is a code word for the United States.

19:2–3 I will stir up the Egyptians against the Egyptians; they will fight brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor, city against city and state against state. Egypt’s spirit shall be drained from within; I will frustrate their plans, and they will resort to the idols and to spiritists, to mediums and witchcraft.

Anarchy and civil war in the great superpower of the world form the prelude to its desolation. As much of the land is destroyed from within, Egypt’s enemies see their chance to invade from without. When Jehovah withdraws his Spirit because of a people’s evildoing, they are left to their own devices. Their alienation causes Jehovah to close the heavens. They lose the light they once had, and a man’s adversaries become those of his own people. Desperate, they turn to false channels of information—idols, spiritists, mediums, and witchcraft—only to compound their plight (Isaiah 8:19–20; 42:17; 44:17; 45:20).

19:4 Then will I deliver the Egyptians into the hand of a cruel master; a harsh ruler will subject them, says the Lord, Jehovah of Hosts.

The nation of Egypt in Isaiah’s day was ruled by a non-native Afro-Egyptian (Cushite) pharaoh of Egypt’s 25th dynasty (760–656 B.C.) (cf. Isaiah 18:1; 20:3–5). This was a period of extensive government programs but of moral decline that set the stage for Assyria’s invasion and conquest of Egypt. Like ancient Egypt, end-time “Egypt” deteriorates politically (vv 11–15), experiences economic hardship (vv 8–10), and suffers severe drought conditions (vv 5–7). Egypt—the breadbasket of the world—is reduced to poverty. Only the God of Israel, who rules over all nations, is able to save Egypt (vv 20–24).

19:5–7 The waters of the lakes shall ebb away as stream beds become desolate and dry. The rivers shall turn foul, and Egypt’s waterways recede and dry up. Reeds and rushes shall wither; vegetation adjoining canals and estuaries, and all things sown along irrigation channels, shall shrivel and blow away and be no more.

The covenant curse of withering vegetation—synchronized with a plethora of other misfortunes—afflicts Egypt as its vibrant society wanes like the vegetation itself. Egypt’s flora epitomize the transitory nature of life for its corrupt inhabitants (cf. Isaiah 5:24; 37:27; 40:6–8, 24). Foliage that “shrivels and blows away and is no more” typifies the fate awaiting them and all who comprise Greater Babylon. Egypt’s bodies of water that dry up and rivers that turn foul, too, are a metaphor of its people (cf. Isaiah 18:2, 7; 37:25; 42:15), their pollution and evaporation signifying their descent into chaos.

19:8–10 Fishermen will deplore [their lot] and anglers in canals bemoan themselves; those who cast nets on water will be in misery. Manufacturers of combed linen and weavers of fine fabrics will be dismayed. The textile workers will know despair, and all who work for wages suffer distress.

A supremely industrialized and agricultural land, Egypt spirals into decay. Where once there existed plenty, now a dearth prevails. Where once Egyptians were gainfully employed, now they remain idle. Even traditionally staple livelihoods disappear. A spirit of “misery,” “dismay,” “despair,” and “distress” pervades Egypt’s society (v 3). A hitherto highly prosperous nation is imploding, leaving its large populace without seeming recourse (v 15). Like all who make up Greater Babylon, Egypt—the most elite of nations—is rendered wretched as Jehovah’s judgments come upon her (cf. Isaiah 24:4; 32:10).

19:11–13 The ministers of Zoan are utter fools; the wisest of Pharaoh’s advisers give absurd counsel. How can you say to Pharaoh, We ourselves are as wise as the first rulers? Where are your wise men indeed? Let them please tell you, if they can discern it, what Jehovah of Hosts has in mind for Egypt! The ministers of Zoan have been foolish, the officials of Noph deluded; the heads of state have led Egypt astray.

In Egypt’s political capital, Pharaoh and his advisers follow foolish policies in their attempts at economic recovery, further exacerbating Egypt’s problems. Considering themselves as wise as Egypt’s founding fathers, they act presumptuously, only to lead Egypt deeper into ruin. Deviating from well-proven principles—relying instead on their own wisdom—they and their remedial strategies cause a loss of confidence in the nation, leading to anarchy and civil war (vv 2–3). If Pharaoh and his advisers are indeed as wise as they regard themselves, then let them predict what Jehovah has in store for Egypt!

19:14–15 Jehovah has permeated them with a spirit of confusion; they have misled Egypt in all that she does, causing her to stagger like a drunkard into his vomit. And there shall be nothing the Egyptians can do about it, neither head nor tail, palm top or reed.

Egypt’s ruling elite resemble disoriented persons possessed by a spirit of confusion who lead an entire nation astray, politically and economically. The people’s cumulative guilt has reached its saturation point. Only Jehovah’s judgments can cleanse the nation of its wickedness and idolatry (v 3). The motifs of a “drunkard” who “staggers” into his “vomit” link the nation of Egypt to Jehovah’s people of the tribe of Ephraim and to Ephraim’s intoxicated prophets (Isaiah 28:1, 3, 7–8; 56:10–12). The “head” and “tail,” “palm top” and “reed” allude to the people’s leaders (Isaiah 7:8–9; 9:14–15; 36:6).

19:16–17 In that day the Egyptians will be as women, fearful and afraid at the brandishing hand Jehovah of Hosts wields over them. The land of Judah shall become a source of terror to the Egyptians; all reminded of it shall dread what Jehovah of Hosts has in store for them.

The Egyptians’ behaving as women in that “day”—Jehovah’s Day of Judgment—implies not only fear in the face of danger but transgender issues. The hand Jehovah of Hosts wields over them identifies the king of Assyria/Babylon, who threatens to invade Egypt and all the lands that comprise Isaiah’s Greater Babylon. The “land of Judah” represents those parts of the world the archtyrant conquers first before invading Egypt, as Assyria did anciently. What Jehovah has “in store,” which causes “terror” and
This is really good stuff. I might have to buy this book for myself next Fathers Day! It really begins to make sense when you use the USA instead of the code word 'Egypt'. But who is Assyria?

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Dave62 wrote: August 16th, 2022, 9:34 pm
Rumpelstiltskin wrote: August 8th, 2022, 10:12 pm
mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 8:40 am Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?
Isaiah has some interesting things to say about this. This is from the Gileadi translation of Isaiah and the Apocalyptic Commentary of the Book of Isaiah. The part in italics is the verse and the part following the verse is the explanation. Note that the term, "Egyptians," is a code word for the United States.

19:2–3 I will stir up the Egyptians against the Egyptians; they will fight brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor, city against city and state against state. Egypt’s spirit shall be drained from within; I will frustrate their plans, and they will resort to the idols and to spiritists, to mediums and witchcraft.

Anarchy and civil war in the great superpower of the world form the prelude to its desolation. As much of the land is destroyed from within, Egypt’s enemies see their chance to invade from without. When Jehovah withdraws his Spirit because of a people’s evildoing, they are left to their own devices. Their alienation causes Jehovah to close the heavens. They lose the light they once had, and a man’s adversaries become those of his own people. Desperate, they turn to false channels of information—idols, spiritists, mediums, and witchcraft—only to compound their plight (Isaiah 8:19–20; 42:17; 44:17; 45:20).

19:4 Then will I deliver the Egyptians into the hand of a cruel master; a harsh ruler will subject them, says the Lord, Jehovah of Hosts.

The nation of Egypt in Isaiah’s day was ruled by a non-native Afro-Egyptian (Cushite) pharaoh of Egypt’s 25th dynasty (760–656 B.C.) (cf. Isaiah 18:1; 20:3–5). This was a period of extensive government programs but of moral decline that set the stage for Assyria’s invasion and conquest of Egypt. Like ancient Egypt, end-time “Egypt” deteriorates politically (vv 11–15), experiences economic hardship (vv 8–10), and suffers severe drought conditions (vv 5–7). Egypt—the breadbasket of the world—is reduced to poverty. Only the God of Israel, who rules over all nations, is able to save Egypt (vv 20–24).

19:5–7 The waters of the lakes shall ebb away as stream beds become desolate and dry. The rivers shall turn foul, and Egypt’s waterways recede and dry up. Reeds and rushes shall wither; vegetation adjoining canals and estuaries, and all things sown along irrigation channels, shall shrivel and blow away and be no more.

The covenant curse of withering vegetation—synchronized with a plethora of other misfortunes—afflicts Egypt as its vibrant society wanes like the vegetation itself. Egypt’s flora epitomize the transitory nature of life for its corrupt inhabitants (cf. Isaiah 5:24; 37:27; 40:6–8, 24). Foliage that “shrivels and blows away and is no more” typifies the fate awaiting them and all who comprise Greater Babylon. Egypt’s bodies of water that dry up and rivers that turn foul, too, are a metaphor of its people (cf. Isaiah 18:2, 7; 37:25; 42:15), their pollution and evaporation signifying their descent into chaos.

19:8–10 Fishermen will deplore [their lot] and anglers in canals bemoan themselves; those who cast nets on water will be in misery. Manufacturers of combed linen and weavers of fine fabrics will be dismayed. The textile workers will know despair, and all who work for wages suffer distress.

A supremely industrialized and agricultural land, Egypt spirals into decay. Where once there existed plenty, now a dearth prevails. Where once Egyptians were gainfully employed, now they remain idle. Even traditionally staple livelihoods disappear. A spirit of “misery,” “dismay,” “despair,” and “distress” pervades Egypt’s society (v 3). A hitherto highly prosperous nation is imploding, leaving its large populace without seeming recourse (v 15). Like all who make up Greater Babylon, Egypt—the most elite of nations—is rendered wretched as Jehovah’s judgments come upon her (cf. Isaiah 24:4; 32:10).

19:11–13 The ministers of Zoan are utter fools; the wisest of Pharaoh’s advisers give absurd counsel. How can you say to Pharaoh, We ourselves are as wise as the first rulers? Where are your wise men indeed? Let them please tell you, if they can discern it, what Jehovah of Hosts has in mind for Egypt! The ministers of Zoan have been foolish, the officials of Noph deluded; the heads of state have led Egypt astray.

In Egypt’s political capital, Pharaoh and his advisers follow foolish policies in their attempts at economic recovery, further exacerbating Egypt’s problems. Considering themselves as wise as Egypt’s founding fathers, they act presumptuously, only to lead Egypt deeper into ruin. Deviating from well-proven principles—relying instead on their own wisdom—they and their remedial strategies cause a loss of confidence in the nation, leading to anarchy and civil war (vv 2–3). If Pharaoh and his advisers are indeed as wise as they regard themselves, then let them predict what Jehovah has in store for Egypt!

19:14–15 Jehovah has permeated them with a spirit of confusion; they have misled Egypt in all that she does, causing her to stagger like a drunkard into his vomit. And there shall be nothing the Egyptians can do about it, neither head nor tail, palm top or reed.

Egypt’s ruling elite resemble disoriented persons possessed by a spirit of confusion who lead an entire nation astray, politically and economically. The people’s cumulative guilt has reached its saturation point. Only Jehovah’s judgments can cleanse the nation of its wickedness and idolatry (v 3). The motifs of a “drunkard” who “staggers” into his “vomit” link the nation of Egypt to Jehovah’s people of the tribe of Ephraim and to Ephraim’s intoxicated prophets (Isaiah 28:1, 3, 7–8; 56:10–12). The “head” and “tail,” “palm top” and “reed” allude to the people’s leaders (Isaiah 7:8–9; 9:14–15; 36:6).

19:16–17 In that day the Egyptians will be as women, fearful and afraid at the brandishing hand Jehovah of Hosts wields over them. The land of Judah shall become a source of terror to the Egyptians; all reminded of it shall dread what Jehovah of Hosts has in store for them.

The Egyptians’ behaving as women in that “day”—Jehovah’s Day of Judgment—implies not only fear in the face of danger but transgender issues. The hand Jehovah of Hosts wields over them identifies the king of Assyria/Babylon, who threatens to invade Egypt and all the lands that comprise Isaiah’s Greater Babylon. The “land of Judah” represents those parts of the world the archtyrant conquers first before invading Egypt, as Assyria did anciently. What Jehovah has “in store,” which causes “terror” and
This is really good stuff. I might have to buy this book for myself next Fathers Day! It really begins to make sense when you use the USA instead of the code word 'Egypt'. But who is Assyria?
Assyria is Russia. Putin is the Assyrian. Nothing else makes sense.

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Dave62 wrote: August 16th, 2022, 9:34 pm
Rumpelstiltskin wrote: August 8th, 2022, 10:12 pm
mudflap wrote: August 7th, 2022, 8:40 am Just to put a number on it: I don't think folks in the USA will get out their torches and pitchforks until gas and bread is $10 / gal / loaf. We were pushing $8 for gas earlier this year, and no riots broke out. 100 food factories have mysteriously been burned or had accidents that shut them down, but so far, bread is under $5, and no riots have broken out yet.

Still, Farmers Almanac is predicting a long cold winter https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast . The perfect storm? I don't know.

In case you didn't hear, Sri Lanka tried to implement some green policy where they would stop using fertilizer - and now they are bankrupt, with citizens throwing out the PM and swimming in his pool: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sri-lanka

Dutch farmers protesting almost the same thing with "green policies" limiting how many cows and how much fertilizer.

Over in the UK, we have: 75k Brits pledging to not pay their power bill on October 1: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rev ... tion-storm

I just don't think the average American cares about politics - only the first week of November, every other year. I think they do care about the price of gas, since that affects the price of everything else. But gas prices are on the decrease.

So again: no riots until gas and bread is $10.

What do you think the trigger point will be? Will there be a trigger point?
Isaiah has some interesting things to say about this. This is from the Gileadi translation of Isaiah and the Apocalyptic Commentary of the Book of Isaiah. The part in italics is the verse and the part following the verse is the explanation. Note that the term, "Egyptians," is a code word for the United States.

19:2–3 I will stir up the Egyptians against the Egyptians; they will fight brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor, city against city and state against state. Egypt’s spirit shall be drained from within; I will frustrate their plans, and they will resort to the idols and to spiritists, to mediums and witchcraft.

Anarchy and civil war in the great superpower of the world form the prelude to its desolation. As much of the land is destroyed from within, Egypt’s enemies see their chance to invade from without. When Jehovah withdraws his Spirit because of a people’s evildoing, they are left to their own devices. Their alienation causes Jehovah to close the heavens. They lose the light they once had, and a man’s adversaries become those of his own people. Desperate, they turn to false channels of information—idols, spiritists, mediums, and witchcraft—only to compound their plight (Isaiah 8:19–20; 42:17; 44:17; 45:20).

19:4 Then will I deliver the Egyptians into the hand of a cruel master; a harsh ruler will subject them, says the Lord, Jehovah of Hosts.

The nation of Egypt in Isaiah’s day was ruled by a non-native Afro-Egyptian (Cushite) pharaoh of Egypt’s 25th dynasty (760–656 B.C.) (cf. Isaiah 18:1; 20:3–5). This was a period of extensive government programs but of moral decline that set the stage for Assyria’s invasion and conquest of Egypt. Like ancient Egypt, end-time “Egypt” deteriorates politically (vv 11–15), experiences economic hardship (vv 8–10), and suffers severe drought conditions (vv 5–7). Egypt—the breadbasket of the world—is reduced to poverty. Only the God of Israel, who rules over all nations, is able to save Egypt (vv 20–24).

19:5–7 The waters of the lakes shall ebb away as stream beds become desolate and dry. The rivers shall turn foul, and Egypt’s waterways recede and dry up. Reeds and rushes shall wither; vegetation adjoining canals and estuaries, and all things sown along irrigation channels, shall shrivel and blow away and be no more.

The covenant curse of withering vegetation—synchronized with a plethora of other misfortunes—afflicts Egypt as its vibrant society wanes like the vegetation itself. Egypt’s flora epitomize the transitory nature of life for its corrupt inhabitants (cf. Isaiah 5:24; 37:27; 40:6–8, 24). Foliage that “shrivels and blows away and is no more” typifies the fate awaiting them and all who comprise Greater Babylon. Egypt’s bodies of water that dry up and rivers that turn foul, too, are a metaphor of its people (cf. Isaiah 18:2, 7; 37:25; 42:15), their pollution and evaporation signifying their descent into chaos.

19:8–10 Fishermen will deplore [their lot] and anglers in canals bemoan themselves; those who cast nets on water will be in misery. Manufacturers of combed linen and weavers of fine fabrics will be dismayed. The textile workers will know despair, and all who work for wages suffer distress.

A supremely industrialized and agricultural land, Egypt spirals into decay. Where once there existed plenty, now a dearth prevails. Where once Egyptians were gainfully employed, now they remain idle. Even traditionally staple livelihoods disappear. A spirit of “misery,” “dismay,” “despair,” and “distress” pervades Egypt’s society (v 3). A hitherto highly prosperous nation is imploding, leaving its large populace without seeming recourse (v 15). Like all who make up Greater Babylon, Egypt—the most elite of nations—is rendered wretched as Jehovah’s judgments come upon her (cf. Isaiah 24:4; 32:10).

19:11–13 The ministers of Zoan are utter fools; the wisest of Pharaoh’s advisers give absurd counsel. How can you say to Pharaoh, We ourselves are as wise as the first rulers? Where are your wise men indeed? Let them please tell you, if they can discern it, what Jehovah of Hosts has in mind for Egypt! The ministers of Zoan have been foolish, the officials of Noph deluded; the heads of state have led Egypt astray.

In Egypt’s political capital, Pharaoh and his advisers follow foolish policies in their attempts at economic recovery, further exacerbating Egypt’s problems. Considering themselves as wise as Egypt’s founding fathers, they act presumptuously, only to lead Egypt deeper into ruin. Deviating from well-proven principles—relying instead on their own wisdom—they and their remedial strategies cause a loss of confidence in the nation, leading to anarchy and civil war (vv 2–3). If Pharaoh and his advisers are indeed as wise as they regard themselves, then let them predict what Jehovah has in store for Egypt!

19:14–15 Jehovah has permeated them with a spirit of confusion; they have misled Egypt in all that she does, causing her to stagger like a drunkard into his vomit. And there shall be nothing the Egyptians can do about it, neither head nor tail, palm top or reed.

Egypt’s ruling elite resemble disoriented persons possessed by a spirit of confusion who lead an entire nation astray, politically and economically. The people’s cumulative guilt has reached its saturation point. Only Jehovah’s judgments can cleanse the nation of its wickedness and idolatry (v 3). The motifs of a “drunkard” who “staggers” into his “vomit” link the nation of Egypt to Jehovah’s people of the tribe of Ephraim and to Ephraim’s intoxicated prophets (Isaiah 28:1, 3, 7–8; 56:10–12). The “head” and “tail,” “palm top” and “reed” allude to the people’s leaders (Isaiah 7:8–9; 9:14–15; 36:6).

19:16–17 In that day the Egyptians will be as women, fearful and afraid at the brandishing hand Jehovah of Hosts wields over them. The land of Judah shall become a source of terror to the Egyptians; all reminded of it shall dread what Jehovah of Hosts has in store for them.

The Egyptians’ behaving as women in that “day”—Jehovah’s Day of Judgment—implies not only fear in the face of danger but transgender issues. The hand Jehovah of Hosts wields over them identifies the king of Assyria/Babylon, who threatens to invade Egypt and all the lands that comprise Isaiah’s Greater Babylon. The “land of Judah” represents those parts of the world the archtyrant conquers first before invading Egypt, as Assyria did anciently. What Jehovah has “in store,” which causes “terror” and
This is really good stuff. I might have to buy this book for myself next Fathers Day! It really begins to make sense when you use the USA instead of the code word 'Egypt'. But who is Assyria?
The "Assyria" talked about by Isaiah is only referenced with clues. It is an alliance of nations with one main bad dude. The alliance is outnumbered militarily (probably only slightly), but its military is highly disciplined and merciless. The main bad dude comes from the north from a country that has annexed the lands of other countries and is agriculturally unproductive. He makes treaties only to break them.

PM me your email address and I'll send you a PDF copy. It'll be all highlighted, but you can delete the highlights.

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for me, the trigger to riots etc will happen quickly. The event? dunno
The situation which causes it will be the result of the event.
The situation is that we won't be able to buy food. Then come panic. Stores looted.
Hunger.

1-Event
2-Stores looted
3-Hunger
4-Panic

Until then, we just keep going further into the murky abyss which in a word is 'destabilization'.

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So many countries are awake and protesting. I wonder why we don't see this in the US.

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marc wrote: August 17th, 2022, 8:46 pm So many countries are awake and protesting. I wonder why we don't see this in the US.
I've wondered about this as well. My tinfoil hat says "fluoridated drinking water". The realist in me says "easy credit". I mean, you can buy anything on credit here in the USA - clothes, shoes, cars, food, etc. And the stuff you can't buy on credit, you can finance with a title loan on your car. I've talked to folks in Russia and eastern Europe - it's not every day you can go out an finance a house - homes are something they hang on to for hundreds (thousands?) of years, and pass down through the family. South of us, they build a house in their parent's backyard.

I really think we were getting close to rioting when gas was $8 / gal earlier this summer. But bread remained at around $3 a loaf. And gas has fallen over the last month or so - probably because elections are coming up. But the rumor is, oil is set to start rising again soon. And Lake Mead, which supplies 30 million people with water - including farms in California - had its worst year since they built the dam back in the 1930's. Wherever it ends up this year is where it starts out next year (the water level). If we don't have an extremely wet winter, 2023 is going to be the year of food inflation. And it's not just here - you can't even ship stuff down the Rhine right now from Germany. And France, which is, I think, #1 in Europe and #6 in the world terms of wheat production - had a very bad year. All the top 10 are having some kind of issue (Ukraine, anyone?) with crops this year due to war or drought, or floods (China). And this is at least the 3rd bad year in a row for most of them. How many bad years can you have before wheat turns into gold, as far as value?

I think when bread and gas are both sustained at $10, that's when we'll have "the perfect storm".

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I keep finding videos saying China’s economy either has or will collapse within the next 30 days because of its real estate crisis. I wonder what kind of a ripple effect that might cause. Or is China’s collapse simply wishful tinking?

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Christianlee wrote: August 18th, 2022, 10:37 am I keep finding videos saying China’s economy either has or will collapse within the next 30 days because of its real estate crisis. I wonder what kind of a ripple effect that might cause. Or is China’s collapse simply wishful tinking?
I’ve noticed similar, & after Covid “news” mind control, I wonder more about WHY it’s being advertised rather than the message that may or may not have much truth.

Maybe, in the hope for the “great reset,” & “new world order,” they are trying to plant ideas in people’s heads to explain their concocted plans… Eg., “Covid, economic hardship- and everything is China’s fault!” In some parts of the US, Chinese are among the top immigrants & have been for years. Stirring contention - getting people to do their dirty work & fight each other - seems to be effective but evil strategies.

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Christianlee wrote: August 18th, 2022, 10:37 am I keep finding videos saying China’s economy either has or will collapse within the next 30 days because of its real estate crisis. I wonder what kind of a ripple effect that might cause. Or is China’s collapse simply wishful tinking?
Yup. China's Evergrande fiasco. Countless Chinese were ripped off by banking schemes. Lots of good videos about it on Youtube.

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jreuben wrote: August 8th, 2022, 11:14 pm The evil FBI is a communist terrorist organization. The IRS is as well and has been weaponized by the communists. Did you know it's legal for them to shoot you dead? The usa is entirely lost at this point and will remain so unless the 2020 election is brought back and the entire federal government expunged. State's Rights is back on the menu boys.
I'm with you a 100% on this, but I find it astonishing that there are so many people that still think we are free.

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@Vision the USA was gone in the mid 1800s. The protocommunists killed Brother Joseph and the members of the church did their best with the authority he restored to try to keep things moving. The communists took full control at about 1900 and turned New York City into the world's luciferian communist capitol. Science was dead circa 1885-1895. The church went into apostasy with president Wilford Woodruff's attempts to deceive and manipulate the deceivers with his 1890 game play that blew back and claimed the church. Lots of fruits of that can be seen by evaluating what happened from that point forward (eg, note the loss of 1/2 of Doctrine & Covenants thanks to the loss of authoritative revelation at the top and allowing fear to continue to control decisions as well as too many other examples to enumerate here presently). Thankfully the priesthood is still floating around, but it's much like Zechariah and John's time at this point and we have a lot of work ahead of us.

The USA needs to be restored and the church needs to be restored and the Church of the Firstborn must be brought forward to fill the Earth with proper authority. The church is simply drowning in apostasy presently and has no way to know how far gone they are. It is sad and all of the current leadership is either in deep ignorance or is complicit in outright murder and extremely devious manipulation as we've seen over the unveiling of the last couple years.

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I hear China is selling Russian natural gas to Europe, and Europe is pretending not to notice. Meanwhile, folks are sleeping in their cars in line waiting to buy coal. Germans who own land with forest on it are chipping it out to get wood to heat their homes this winter. So much for the global warming agenda. But I digress. Meanwhile, Russia is going to shut off natural gas to France for nonpayment (in Rubles, I suppose) this week.

So, are you glad you live in America where we can just send weapons over to Ukraine, and we don't have to live with cuts like they do in Europe?

Not so fast. What if the Democrats win in November? Who's to say they won't? Mitch McConnel (A.K.A. "the turtle) is throwing cold water on the only thing that's keeping momentum in the GOP for November: yes, he's trying to distance R's from Trump. Mind you, Trump-endorsed candidates currently have a 92% winning streak. But that doesn't matter to Mitch, who is really just the other side of the DC Coin (Democrats are on the other side of the coin). No, it's not about winning to Mitch - it's about remaining in power. He can obviously see the writing on the wall: if MAGA R's win in the Senate in November, he's out. So why would he help MAGA candidates? He won't. He just had a meeting this week I think with all the candidates. What do you think he told them? "Tow the line, shut up, keep your head down, and let me lead, or I'll get the deep state to release a video of you having sex with children." would be my guess.

Don't forget how the last election was stolen - through voting machines, mail in ballots, copied off ballots, water leaks, putting up poster boards and curtains to "threaten our democracy" and dismantle "open and fair elections" while they printed off more votes/ found them in suitcases. Has any MEANINGFUL progress been made to stop any of what happened in 2020? I would argue no. Sure, AZ looks like they are spitting mad about their fiasco. But are they mad enough? no, because "republicans have to get up in the morning on November 2 (Wednesday) and go to work." They don't have time to protest violently like the homeless fascist domestic democrat terrorists do if they lose.

So, what if this scenario plays out: Democrats keep a narrow majority in the house, because "fraudulent elections have consequences"; Mitch keeps doing what he's doing in the Senate (NOTHING!), and Biden and Nancy opt to send more oil and supplies to Ukraine. And guess who gets to fund Biden's little corrupt coverup in Ukraine?

Yes, that would be you.

All of this could happen in November - the elections, the fuel restrictions, and winter. YOU could be waiting in line to buy firewood or coal, just like they are doing right now (yes: now - in August) - in Europe. They are having one of the hottest summers on record, and yet they are lining up now for alternate heat sources. You don't think frozen pipes like they had last year in Texas and no other source of heat could be in your future in the next few months?

They HATE you, and they HATE your independence, and they would do anything (even manufacture a crisis) to get you to riot so they can implement widespread gun control under martial law or whatever. So far, it's been brush fires. But brush fires (aka "shootings at Safeway", NY, FL, etc.) don't seem to be enough to push a national agenda. They're going to have to go big. If they win in November, and 100+ food factories have already been taken out of the equation, and inflation keeps you immobile, and they can justify reducing your oil consumption ("because Ukraine war"), and winter is cold.......

Why wouldn't they?

So I bought a 6 lb splitting maul today. I have a 15' log pile I'm going to pull down and cut into chunks. At least we'll be warm.

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