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Uchtdorf and Oaks should once again...be so proud...for donating and acting as the apologist.

How many will die in this war???


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The Red Pill wrote: June 29th, 2022, 3:45 pm Uchtdorf and Oaks should once again...be so proud...for donating and acting as the apologist.

How many will die in this war???


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Putin started this war, not Biden.

Trump is not coming back. Especially after yesterday's damning testimony against him.

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Subcomandante wrote: June 29th, 2022, 4:02 pm
The Red Pill wrote: June 29th, 2022, 3:45 pm Uchtdorf and Oaks should once again...be so proud...for donating and acting as the apologist.

How many will die in this war???


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Putin started this war, not Biden.

Trump is not coming back. Especially after yesterday's damning testimony against him.
In a real trial, there are 2 sides. In the current Trump Lynching, there is only hear say and zero real evidence. Satan is putting on a show for his disciples. No follower of Christ pays it any mind.

Biden declared war the very second that he sent another $Billion in weapons to Ukraine. https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/20 ... bas-fight/

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Subcomandante wrote: June 29th, 2022, 4:02 pm
The Red Pill wrote: June 29th, 2022, 3:45 pm Uchtdorf and Oaks should once again...be so proud...for donating and acting as the apologist.

How many will die in this war???


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Putin started this war, not Biden.

Trump is not coming back. Especially after yesterday's damning testimony against him.
You do realize that testimony was all hearsay which wouldn’t be allowed in a court of law? And the Secret Service is all contradicting her.
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Subcomandante wrote: June 29th, 2022, 4:02 pm
The Red Pill wrote: June 29th, 2022, 3:45 pm Uchtdorf and Oaks should once again...be so proud...for donating and acting as the apologist.

How many will die in this war???


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/bl ... ore-234620
Putin started this war, not Biden.

Trump is not coming back. Especially after yesterday's damning testimony against him.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/06 ... is-n586318

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Like that Russia Doccier.....that damning 'evidence'....

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Christianlee wrote: June 29th, 2022, 4:39 pm
Subcomandante wrote: June 29th, 2022, 4:02 pm
The Red Pill wrote: June 29th, 2022, 3:45 pm Uchtdorf and Oaks should once again...be so proud...for donating and acting as the apologist.

How many will die in this war???


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/bl ... ore-234620
Putin started this war, not Biden.

Trump is not coming back. Especially after yesterday's damning testimony against him.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/06 ... is-n586318
Dan Bongino is a retired Secret Service agent. He has his own talk show and was talking today about how incredibly stupid the b!tch was that testified that Trump got into the Beast. Seems an agent would rather die than call the limo a beast as it is a joke and they would be the laughing stock of the entire department for months. No Secret Service agent calls it the beast. EVER! So when Dan heard the b!tch say that an agent told her that Trump got into the beast, he immediately knew that she was a total liar and had zero truth in her. He rambled on about why this was so and how agents really talk and how reporters want to be seen as in the know and so they call it the beast which only proves how stupid they are. Anyway, suffice it so say that no truths were spoken today by the media.

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No, NATO started this war.

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Trump is not coming back. Especially after yesterday's damning testimony against him.
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That's their goal isn't it?

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[quote=Subcomandante post_id=1280381 time=1656540150

Trump is not coming back. Especially after yesterday's damning testimony against him.
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That's their goal isn't it?

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Dave62 wrote: June 29th, 2022, 8:18 pm No, NATO started this war.
Yup, they poked the bear repeatedly over the last few years until it came to be.

And now we're sending billions of dollars of military hardware to Ukraine (or somewhere) that we cannot easily replace. This after leaving billions in hardware in Afghanistan that we also cannot easily replace. We no longer have the industrial capacity, especially if China isn't making computer chips for us. And they're firing the troops that won't take the jab, leaving only troops that have submitted to the gene therapy and whatever long-term results come with that.

We're being hollowed out and sold up the river.

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There's something weird about this "war".

* Has anyone noticed that while there's plenty of talk about big battles in Ukraine featuring thousands of heavily armed professional soldiers, there's never any video or evidence for action on this scale?

* This is supposed to be a proxy war between NATO and the Russian army, but all the footage looks like small scale training videos using old equipment and featuring about a half dozen men who are often middle aged or overweight, wearing cruddy looking gear.

* And why have there been so many claims of fakery, and fake bodies, from BOTH sides?

* And why does almost all the destruction seem to happen to old Soviet-era apartment buildings, some of which look like they have been empty for a while?

* Did anyone notice Mariupol is already being "rebuilt". So, that's a lot of fat contracts already being handed out.


What if this war is as fake as the pandemic? I mean East and West were in lockstep selling the covid lie so maybe they're in lockstep selling this new lie?

What if the "war" is just a few volunteer territorials on either side being detailed to roll around in old tanks and blow up a lot of infrastructure and maybe take a few civilians out for authenticity?

Huge profits for the Gads for minimal outlay. Lovely big distraction from the failing COVID story. Lovely big excuse for the deliberately created "shortages" and hyperinflation (Russia can tell its people to blame the West. The West can tell us to blame Russia).

And while we discuss and debate it all and sit quaking waiting for WW3 the Gads of East and West are verifiably working together, building the legislation for the global techno fascist prison of Agenda 2030, fake climate fear, fake population crisis and fake "peak oil" BS.

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Both U.S. and Canadian (and many others) governments have been totally taken over by the Gadiantons and it saddens me to see that there are still people who support either side of government whether led by the Bushes, the Clintons, Trump or Biden. All of these people are the absolute scum of society and all of them are Satanists who are trying to destroy our countries. There is absolutely no hope in things getting better and looking at one politician vs. the other is a waste of time. Not only is it a waste of time but it also distracts us from realizing the the cause of the upcoming was is our own disregard for God's covenant and His covenant people.

As much as I enjoy blaming the Gadiantons, the politicians... for the upcoming war, we must realize that ultimately, WE are the cause of the war. We have become enamoured by the modern world and we have accepted the Gadiantons' worthless money and the system that produces it. The money takes on value the instant we use it to procure the things of this world, idols of stone and wood that our fingers have made. It's our lust for the things of this world that empowers the money and therefore the Gadiantons who will use their fake money to procure armies and navies that will be used against us.

It's sad that we find ourselves in this situation when the solution is so simple; take care of the poor and oppressed. This is pretty well all it takes for God to protect us from our mortal enemies and to live in peace.

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Dave62 wrote: June 29th, 2022, 8:18 pm No, NATO started this war.
NATO did not invade Russia. If you want to say Ukraine started this war, you could theoretically say so. You could even theoretically say that Russia started this war back in 2014 when they invaded Crimea and portions of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts and that the current conflict is a continuation of that.

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Subcomandante wrote: June 29th, 2022, 4:02 pm
The Red Pill wrote: June 29th, 2022, 3:45 pm Uchtdorf and Oaks should once again...be so proud...for donating and acting as the apologist.

How many will die in this war???


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Putin started this war, not Biden.

Trump is not coming back. Especially after yesterday's damning testimony against him.
The American oligarchs have been brooding this situation along for decades. If they can get Putin to react militarily, their big egg will hatch.

It's significant that there are such opposites in understanding of what is going on here. People can be cleanly divided by their comprehension of these things. Strong delusion is in play, getting stronger by the month.

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NeveR wrote: June 30th, 2022, 1:56 am There's something weird about this "war".

* Has anyone noticed that while there's plenty of talk about big battles in Ukraine featuring thousands of heavily armed professional soldiers, there's never any video or evidence for action on this scale?

* This is supposed to be a proxy war between NATO and the Russian army, but all the footage looks like small scale training videos using old equipment and featuring about a half dozen men who are often middle aged or overweight, wearing cruddy looking gear.

* And why have there been so many claims of fakery, and fake bodies, from BOTH sides?

* And why does almost all the destruction seem to happen to old Soviet-era apartment buildings, some of which look like they have been empty for a while?

* Did anyone notice Mariupol is already being "rebuilt". So, that's a lot of fat contracts already being handed out.


What if this war is as fake as the pandemic? I mean East and West were in lockstep selling the covid lie so maybe they're in lockstep selling this new lie?

What if the "war" is just a few volunteer territorials on either side being detailed to roll around in old tanks and blow up a lot of infrastructure and maybe take a few civilians out for authenticity?

Huge profits for the Gads for minimal outlay. Lovely big distraction from the failing COVID story. Lovely big excuse for the deliberately created "shortages" and hyperinflation (Russia can tell its people to blame the West. The West can tell us to blame Russia).

And while we discuss and debate it all and sit quaking waiting for WW3 the Gads of East and West are verifiably working together, building the legislation for the global techno fascist prison of Agenda 2030, fake climate fear, fake population crisis and fake "peak oil" BS.
There is plenty of odd things about this war. The timing alone was a clue as it was a sudden distraction when covid started unraveling.

Add to it that Russia is a nuclear arms and military powerhouse. They could have easily taken over by now.

Add to it that all kinds of celerities and politicians (Bono, Boris Johnson, Jill Biden,etc) are having their sympathy picture promos with Ukraine’s president…in Ukraine! Since when do we send a presidents wife with full secret service detail into a war zone?!

Add to it that Ukraine is the hub of financial back door banking for corrupt governments, and ours just funneled billions in a 3000+ page package that voting legislatures had no time to read.

Add to it that a 3000 page spending bill was easily prepared and ready in a matter of only a few weeks.

Add that Putin is an active part of the WEF

Add to it that Ukraine’s president is an actor by trade and part of the WEF

Add to it that Afghanistan is no more the military industrial complex’s banking project. Funding both sides of a war is too good of business.

Something definitely isn’t passing the sniff test on this one. If I didn’t know any better I’d say Covid was designed to wipe out our ability to smell in more ways than one!

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NeveR wrote: June 30th, 2022, 1:56 am There's something weird about this "war".

* Has anyone noticed that while there's plenty of talk about big battles in Ukraine featuring thousands of heavily armed professional soldiers, there's never any video or evidence for action on this scale?

* This is supposed to be a proxy war between NATO and the Russian army, but all the footage looks like small scale training videos using old equipment and featuring about a half dozen men who are often middle aged or overweight, wearing cruddy looking gear.

* And why have there been so many claims of fakery, and fake bodies, from BOTH sides?

* And why does almost all the destruction seem to happen to old Soviet-era apartment buildings, some of which look like they have been empty for a while?

* Did anyone notice Mariupol is already being "rebuilt". So, that's a lot of fat contracts already being handed out.


What if this war is as fake as the pandemic? I mean East and West were in lockstep selling the covid lie so maybe they're in lockstep selling this new lie?

What if the "war" is just a few volunteer territorials on either side being detailed to roll around in old tanks and blow up a lot of infrastructure and maybe take a few civilians out for authenticity?

Huge profits for the Gads for minimal outlay. Lovely big distraction from the failing COVID story. Lovely big excuse for the deliberately created "shortages" and hyperinflation (Russia can tell its people to blame the West. The West can tell us to blame Russia).

And while we discuss and debate it all and sit quaking waiting for WW3 the Gads of East and West are verifiably working together, building the legislation for the global techno fascist prison of Agenda 2030, fake climate fear, fake population crisis and fake "peak oil" BS.
Bingo.

Staged.

But everyone seems to have their favorite side.

As planned.

Free clue for the clueless.

If a country, or nation has a central bank not owned by the people of that country or nation, they are not soverign, they are under the control of the Banksters.

This is a Bankster "war", just like all of the others since the French Revolution.

We are serfs, debt slaves and NPCs in their game.

And like all games.

No players, no game.

Stop playing.

You win.

They lose.

Sir H

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So interesting how even this site is polarised about "who started it".

WHO CARES WHO STARTED IT?

Both "sides" are corrupt exploiters and mass murderers. Neither give a single damn about human life or Christian ethics. Whether you think their fight is real or fake you have no stake in this.

At best we're Tumak from One Million Years BC hiding in a rock crevice while two dinosaurs duke it out. At worst we are being forced to watch a kabuki "fight" between actors on a stage.


Either way, it's nothing we should lend our support to in any way.

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I read a very interesting idea someone put out there. The billions of dollars being sent to Ukraine is not being used for fighting. It is being used for the elites to line their own pockets, just before the dollar crashes.

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US Army just dropped it's enlistment requirements. No longer need a HS diploma or GED. I heard one commentator say this was basically clearing the way to recruit cannon fodder. And the next step will be a draft.

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NeveR wrote: June 30th, 2022, 9:01 am So interesting how even this site is polarised about "who started it".

WHO CARES WHO STARTED IT?

Both "sides" are corrupt exploiters and mass murderers. Neither give a single damn about human life or Christian ethics. Whether you think their fight is real or fake you have no stake in this.

At best we're Tumak from One Million Years BC hiding in a rock crevice while two dinosaurs duke it out. At worst we are being forced to watch a kabuki "fight" between actors on a stage.


Either way, it's nothing we should lend our support to in any way.
For those of us who want to understand how we got here (lessons learned, current direction, etc.) it's important to understand what led up to this. Ukraine has frankly been a den of corruption for years, where the VP (now current Prez) can initiate bribes, the next Prez calls to ask about it and gets investigated. Our favorite Mormon senator, Romney, also has a kid sitting on the board of a Ukrainian energy company, so the tangled hairball that is this situation has many players that help us understand motivations and actions, and how desperate our situation here where we live is due to the direction they have pointed us.

We have a stake, which is our leaders are committing troops and resources (which we're on the hook for) to a country where the legally elected president was overthrown by an intelligence operation sponsored by our country and replaced with a stooge that will do certain things for these people. Have we seen anything like this before? Hint: yes, we have.

I found lots of combat footage, the problem is most of it is designed to make Ukraine look good and Russia bad. In other words, propaganda. This tells me that our perceptions are being managed. Why would they do that? That gets me asking what this is all leading to and what they are hiding from us. Perhaps we should all wonder.

NATO is escalating, committing 300K of troops to Eastern Europe. Putin has now made an emergency decree calling up Russia's reserves. Again, where will this lead? And if we're busy in Europe, what will China do? If we've sent all kinds of equipment to Ukraine that we can't easily replace (and other European countries are in the same boat) what kind of a position does that leave us in? Add in the fact that food processing facilities are burning or shutting down and this year's harvest is looking a bit bleak and one might come to the conclusion that the noose that's been dropped around our necks is starting to tighten.

NeveR, you certainly see certain things that most Americans are too brainwashed to consider, but we can't just simply stop there and be self-satisfied with just these heightened understandings, they can entrap us too. In other words, if we don't stop but keep looking, the Russia/Ukraine situation leads us right back here, to our country, and what certain actors are doing, and what the consequences could be. Kabuki theater has a direction, who is directing this spectacle we're watching and how is it distracting us? Let's look behind the curtain. Could it be to provide cover for a collapsing economy? A ready made bad guy for major false flag events?

Something very wicked this way comes, and it's nearly arrived.

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Wouldn't it make a great movie if like America trained a bunch of foreign fighters who looked kind of like Americans, found a false pretense to arm them with America's military supplies, while all the while the president is building a case that 81 million Americans are terrorists.

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gruden2.0 wrote: June 30th, 2022, 10:41 pm
NeveR wrote: June 30th, 2022, 9:01 am So interesting how even this site is polarised about "who started it".

WHO CARES WHO STARTED IT?

Both "sides" are corrupt exploiters and mass murderers. Neither give a single damn about human life or Christian ethics. Whether you think their fight is real or fake you have no stake in this.

At best we're Tumak from One Million Years BC hiding in a rock crevice while two dinosaurs duke it out. At worst we are being forced to watch a kabuki "fight" between actors on a stage.


Either way, it's nothing we should lend our support to in any way.
For those of us who want to understand how we got here (lessons learned, current direction, etc.) it's important to understand what led up to this. Ukraine has frankly been a den of corruption for years, where the VP (now current Prez) can initiate bribes, the next Prez calls to ask about it and gets investigated. Our favorite Mormon senator, Romney, also has a kid sitting on the board of a Ukrainian energy company, so the tangled hairball that is this situation has many players that help us understand motivations and actions, and how desperate our situation here where we live is due to the direction they have pointed us.

We have a stake, which is our leaders are committing troops and resources (which we're on the hook for) to a country where the legally elected president was overthrown by an intelligence operation sponsored by our country and replaced with a stooge that will do certain things for these people. Have we seen anything like this before? Hint: yes, we have.

I found lots of combat footage, the problem is most of it is designed to make Ukraine look good and Russia bad. In other words, propaganda. This tells me that our perceptions are being managed. Why would they do that? That gets me asking what this is all leading to and what they are hiding from us. Perhaps we should all wonder.

NATO is escalating, committing 300K of troops to Eastern Europe. Putin has now made an emergency decree calling up Russia's reserves. Again, where will this lead? And if we're busy in Europe, what will China do? If we've sent all kinds of equipment to Ukraine that we can't easily replace (and other European countries are in the same boat) what kind of a position does that leave us in? Add in the fact that food processing facilities are burning or shutting down and this year's harvest is looking a bit bleak and one might come to the conclusion that the noose that's been dropped around our necks is starting to tighten.

NeveR, you certainly see certain things that most Americans are too brainwashed to consider, but we can't just simply stop there and be self-satisfied with just these heightened understandings, they can entrap us too. In other words, if we don't stop but keep looking, the Russia/Ukraine situation leads us right back here, to our country, and what certain actors are doing, and what the consequences could be. Kabuki theater has a direction, who is directing this spectacle we're watching and how is it distracting us? Let's look behind the curtain. Could it be to provide cover for a collapsing economy? A ready made bad guy for major false flag events?

Something very wicked this way comes, and it's nearly arrived.
I think the only way out of this mass delusion is to recognize what it is. To wake up, realize you are watching a play, not real life, and leave the theater.

All that stuff you cite as evidence things are becoming dangerous is out there specifically to give that impression. It's another gigantic performance - like the "pandemic".

Putin doesn't need to make public gestures about calling up reserves. It's absurd. As I said before there's barely any sign the Russian army is even present in Ukraine in significant numbers, let alone suffering enough defeat to warrant calling up reserves.

He's making dramatic gestures, just as NATO is, to scare and excite the watching crowd. Just as they did with "covid".

Always watch what they are NOT talking about. While everyone is panicking about a "war" that barely seems to exist, the bureaucracies are passing legislation to destroy our freedoms - globally.

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Old thread ought to be updated with current info.

US proxy war continues to look like a real war as US involvement increases.

More funding.
USA to send patriot missiles.
USA sends howitzers.
USA pressures Germany to send tanks
USA sends tanks.

About a year ago Biden said the USA would NOT send war jets to Ukraine because that would escalate this into world war, but this past weekend Biden administration started discussing sending F16s to Ukraine.

Last week a Turkish cargo ship was attacked near Ukraine, Russia was blamed, but it was unclear who fired at the ship.

Today Poland announced it will double it's military spending and it's army.

The march towards world war continues.

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Here is the link to story about F-16s

https://antibellum679354512.wordpress.c ... ons-envoy/

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