Mass shootings have been a problem under both Democrat and Republican leadership. This is not a recent phenomenon, this has been going on for the last 20-25 years.Yeliab wrote: ↑May 31st, 2022, 6:27 amROFLMBO, now the Trump card..... it was Trumps fault for all the mass shootings that have occurred under MAJORITY democrap leadership. It's Trump's fault, Biden cut off our own oil flow, it's Trump's fault, our grocery store shelves are sitting empty while tens of thousands of containers of food, goods and products are sitting on shipping docks. It's Trump's fault that the latest school shooter got his gun(s) under Biden's rule and reign, it's Trump's fault Russia is invading Ukraine, it's Trump's fault every major democrat state in the nation with the strictest gun laws have the highest incident of Murder and violent crime perpetrated by those with guns they got illegally...need I continue?Subcomandante wrote: ↑May 31st, 2022, 6:18 amPresident Nelson was in no position to make pronouncements on behalf of the whole Church as he was still not President of the Church in 2017. That honor was held by President Monson.Yeliab wrote: ↑May 31st, 2022, 5:43 amUmm I miss your point with Osamabama being out of office for a year before.....Subcomandante wrote: ↑May 26th, 2022, 7:14 am
Obama was out of office a year before President Nelson began his ministry as President of the Church.
With President Monson, the Church was already criticizing policies held by then-candidate Trump. Not so much because the Church has gone left or woke, but because most of the world outside of the United States abhorred (and continues to abhor) Trump.
The main difference between the United States and most of the rest of the first world is that once the other countries had mass shootings, there was a virtually immediate response and voilá! No more mass shootings.
It is very clear that something needs to be done, and Nelson is right that too many people that shouldn't have guns, have them, and are using them to kill massive amounts of people.
Even Martin Armstrong admits something has to be done. From one of his posts today on Armstrong Economics:
This I think would be VERY sensible. This is precisely what happens in Switzerland which has a significant amount of guns yet very little gun crime.The problem here is he was crazy. I do not see any problem with having to prove you are of sound mind to buy ANY gun. In this case, it appeared that his family would have said NO. Perhaps it should require family consent but perhaps a mental examination as well. There should be a waiting period and perhaps a mental examination by three separate doctors in a blind test to certify that he is of sound mind.
Outlawing guns or even assault weapons will not address the issue. Someone can always get them from the black market. In this case, the shooter was clearly crazy. That type of person would more likely than not try to buy a weapon at a gun store. I think the mental exam and family consent are more important than anything else. The Swiss have a militia-type system and most men must be trained and can keep their guns at home. Yet they have no real crisis in guns.