What is this "secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries"?

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potatohead wrote: April 20th, 2022, 5:35 pm The creator of communism was a zionist. According to https://www.bitchute.com/video/s1nPYDj7KBEQ/ the zionists overthrew the Russian royal family and took control of the country while slaughtering millions. The same people are supposedly behind the globalist movement, green/climate change movement and the UN. They most likely are responsible for the liberalization of college campuses and the CRT/homo/trans movement as well as the normalization of abortion and the destruction of the atomic family. From what I can see they are in charge of Canada, AUS, most European countries and the US, with much of the autonomy being located in NY and on wall street. They also own Hollywood which is why there is so much satanic imagery in popular culture. A church representative was invited to attend a UN meeting last year or so. I trust the church as an institution but I have my reservations as well. The doctrine however is not as easily meddled with.
Karl Marx may have come from Jewish origins, but he had a lot of unflattering things to say about Jews, and blacks for that matter.

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mudflap wrote: April 15th, 2022, 1:51 pm excellent post, thank you for sharing.

Mormons ought to be THE BEST informed people on the planet on anything to do with Liberty & Freedom. We should be on the forefront of fighting these combinations. When folks outside our church think of us, they shouldn't think of "Wheat under the Bed"; no. Rather, they should think, "Freedom and liberty in Jesus Christ" and "Defenders of the Constitution".

The fact that we are NOT thought of in these terms is to our shame.

Instead, we have imposters like Harry Reid and Mitt Romney as our "shining examples".

Yes, we ought to be the best-informed because we read the Book of Mormon. The leaders have fatally thwarted that potential, though, by pretending like the dots don't connect, while they whore after Babylon. It is bad for your health to construe them as God's spokesmen.

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The power behind the throne https://thenewamerican.com/cfr-still-t ... he-throne/ the best description of one of the modern day combinations, The Council on Foreign Relations, that is controlling the government of the United States of America today.

Whenever something happens in this country I always go to the membership list of the CFR to see how many members of this organization are involved.

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Will Cain, the first earthly conspirator have anything to do with the last days?

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We are way past the warning of the SC's "getting above us" we are in the "wo" part now. And it is getting more "wo" "wo" "wo" by the day. God said He would cut His work short in righteousness lest there be no flesh left. So an inevitable apocalypse is coming. Nothing short of divine intervention will stop these SC's of tearing up this world. But I think these or this SC is going to be allowed to flourish and "annihilate nations, not a few".
Look at our mentality in America, Europe, Australia and other "enlightened" countries, and for that matter even in mormondom, we voluntarily refuse to "multiply and replenish the earth". So, why should we be saved. God is all about increase, the devil has successfully brainwashed us to limit our families, and we are decreasing, so we deserve destruction if we do not repent, and that is not happening. So destruction cometh to the masses, and its upon our own heads. But, an intervention will happen for "the more righteous".
"The pressure will become so great, the more righteous will cry day and night until deliverance comes".

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: April 24th, 2022, 11:23 am.
InfoWarrior82 wrote: April 24th, 2022, 11:23 am.
HOLD UP! Nope, sorry. The linked search/video does not demonstrate a modern prophet lulling members to sleep with the promise that "all is well in Zion" as is suggested. Quite the opposite; that is President Monson warning the Church not to be complacent, that all isn't well in Zion.

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Jamescm wrote: May 2nd, 2022, 9:57 am
InfoWarrior82 wrote: April 24th, 2022, 11:23 am.
InfoWarrior82 wrote: April 24th, 2022, 11:23 am.
HOLD UP! Nope, sorry. The linked search/video does not demonstrate a modern prophet lulling members to sleep with the promise that "all is well in Zion" as is suggested. Quite the opposite; that is President Monson warning the Church not to be complacent, that all isn't well in Zion.


Yes, that is true (Here is the full talk: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... s?lang=eng)

My point was that it was ironic that the church posted this snippet with that title.

Here is another talk given by Elder Ucthorf, that makes the point that, indeed, all is well:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... l?lang=eng

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With the desire to put us all under CBDC (central bank digital currency), and watching the control freaks on social media sites establish a censorship of free speech, seeing the Biden administration destroying our country on a near daily basis, it certainly is a wakeup call for all of us. I think Lundbaek is correct that Satan is behind it all and that we all need to wake up and fight the beast of tyranny or we may all suffer dearly.

I think Original Intent is right on with his assessment and that there are many in the world who would sell their soul for a mess of pottage. The constitution is our safeguard and we must protect it with all our heart, might, mind and strength.
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onefour1 wrote: May 13th, 2022, 11:41 pm With the desire to put us all under CBDC (central bank digital currency), and watching the control freaks on social media sites establish a censorship of free speech, seeing the Biden administration destroying our country on a near daily basis, it certainly is a wakeup call for all of us. I think Lunbaek is correct that Satan is behind it all and that we all need to wake up and fight the beast of tyranny or we may all suffer dearly.

I think Original Intent is right on with his assessment and that there are many in the world who would sell their soul for a mess of pottage. The constitution is our safeguard and we must protect it with all our heart, might, mind and strength.
It's not a case of "or". It's going to happen and it's in prophecy.

A lot of it will come out of good intentions initiallly, the way a lot of internet censorship is started because of people complaining about bullying online and awful things like child pornography.

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Niemand wrote: May 14th, 2022, 12:59 am
onefour1 wrote: May 13th, 2022, 11:41 pm With the desire to put us all under CBDC (central bank digital currency), and watching the control freaks on social media sites establish a censorship of free speech, seeing the Biden administration destroying our country on a near daily basis, it certainly is a wakeup call for all of us. I think Lunbaek is correct that Satan is behind it all and that we all need to wake up and fight the beast of tyranny or we may all suffer dearly.

I think Original Intent is right on with his assessment and that there are many in the world who would sell their soul for a mess of pottage. The constitution is our safeguard and we must protect it with all our heart, might, mind and strength.
It's not a case of "or". It's going to happen and it's in prophecy.
In prophecy or not, WE still have a doctrinal imperative to oppose it.

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I believed that Orrin Hatch joined that secret combination. Yet his death was honored and highlighted by the first presidency and church.

How did we even get skull and bone members in church leadership?

These examples and others like them are so questionable.

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To the New Testament church the Lord said: I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan ~ Revelation 2:9

I bet the people were as incredulous then as they are now - - Skull and Bones, Owl and Key, Vatican-loving...synogogue of Satan. Not well-meaning but mislead. They are “blind” because they are “darkened.”

The sun is darkened and the moon turned to blood, reflecting the reality of what our personified “seers” have become.

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lundbaek wrote: May 14th, 2022, 1:02 am
Niemand wrote: May 14th, 2022, 12:59 am
onefour1 wrote: May 13th, 2022, 11:41 pm With the desire to put us all under CBDC (central bank digital currency), and watching the control freaks on social media sites establish a censorship of free speech, seeing the Biden administration destroying our country on a near daily basis, it certainly is a wakeup call for all of us. I think Lunbaek is correct that Satan is behind it all and that we all need to wake up and fight the beast of tyranny or we may all suffer dearly.

I think Original Intent is right on with his assessment and that there are many in the world who would sell their soul for a mess of pottage. The constitution is our safeguard and we must protect it with all our heart, might, mind and strength.
It's not a case of "or". It's going to happen and it's in prophecy.
In prophecy or not, WE still have a doctrinal imperative to oppose it.
Yes, we need to oppose it just as Captain Moroni did.

Alma 62:4; 8-10:
  • 4 - (Moroni) did raise the standard of liberty in whatsoever place he did enter…
    8 - Pachus was slain and his men were taken prisoners, they dealt with the Gads and Pahoran was restored to his judgement-seat.
    9 - And the men of Pachus received their trial, according to the law, and also those king-men who had been taken and cast into prison; and they were executed according to the law; yea, those men of Pachus and those king-men, whosoever would not take up arms in the defense of their country, but would fight against it, were put to death. Those who commit Treason should receive the death penalty
    10 - And thus it became expedient that this law should be strictly observed for the safety of their country; yea, and whosoever was found denying their freedom was speedily executed according to the law.
Sure our odds of winning are about 80 to 1, but, it is possible to expose all the bad actors and bring justice to the scene. All we have to do is try - one exposure at a time.

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Pazooka wrote: May 14th, 2022, 9:11 pm To the New Testament church the Lord said: I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan ~ Revelation 2:9

I bet the people were as incredulous then as they are now - - Skull and Bones, Owl and Key, Vatican-loving...synogogue of Satan. Not well-meaning but mislead. They are “blind” because they are “darkened.”

The sun is darkened and the moon turned to blood, reflecting the reality of what our personified “seers” have become.
The following is from the Testament of Levi - to the priests of all generations up until the end time:

The Most High has given...that you should become a son to him, as minister and priest in his presence. The light of knowledge you shall kindle in Jacob, and you shall be as the sun for all the posterity of Israel...

As heaven is pure above the earth, and you should be the lights of Israel as the sun and the moon. For what will all the nations do if you become darkened with impiety? You will bring down a curse on our nation, because you want to destroy the light of the Law which was granted to you for the enlightenment of every man, teaching commandments which are opposed to God’s just ordinances.

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Every conqueror throughout history have been influenced and guided by Satan.


Ghengis Khan, Alexander the Great, Attila the Hun, Adolf Hitler, Napoleon Bonaparte… the list goes on…

All of them used …”gold and silver, and the treasures of the earth, to buy up armies and navies, and rule with blood and horror upon the earth”…

The manner and form of Satan’s goal to prove himself right, that his plan is better than Heavenly Fathers, is still burning bright within his puny heart.

So, we are just in the another manifestation of disruptive actions by Satan and his minions, albeit, more advanced and futuristic than vast armies of horses and guns…

He was allowed to proceed with his threat, by Heavenly Father to be a thorn in our sides and provide clear distinction between sides.

Ease, and comfort are one tool Satan uses to dull the masses, and get a majority of promised land occupants, to become apathetic and not seemingly choose sides…

We are sheep… with no cries of repentance, no pointing out a clear path to live outside of Babylon.
No revelation on how to get to Zion in heart and soul…

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From my own investigations and observations, and consequently (but not only) IMO, the goal of the globalists is total control over all the earth's resources: human resources, natural resources, industrial and manufacturing resources, economic and financial resources, agricultural resources, intellectual resources, educational resources, and others I fail to think of just now. Part of the goal is total management and manipulation to the elites' own benefit of all land and water; the forests, mountains, deserts, large and small municipalities. People will be forced to live in planned communities in crowded conditions. Measures will be introduced to control the population in all parts of the world. Public education will be restricted to development of work skills specified by the elite to serve their desires and needs.

I hope some of you will add your own thoughts and opinions to this.

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lundbaek wrote: May 15th, 2022, 11:44 am From my own investigations and observations, and consequently (but not only) IMO, the goal of the globalists is total control over all the earth's resources: human resources, natural resources, industrial and manufacturing resources, economic and financial resources, agricultural resources, intellectual resources, educational resources, and others I fail to think of just now. Part of the goal is total management and manipulation to the elites' own benefit of all land and water; the forests, mountains, deserts, large and small municipalities. People will be forced to live in planned communities in crowded conditions. Measures will be introduced to control the population in all parts of the world. Public education will be restricted to development of work skills specified by the elite to serve their desires and needs.

I hope some of you will add your own thoughts and opinions to this.
That pretty much sums it up.

I have been repeatedly impressed lately that we are not to take up arms against the gads. This may sound cowardly, and I know there is a time when I would have thought such if someone suggested it. Believe me, I would gladly lay down my life for the cause if called upon BY THE LORD to do so. Much of my life has been spent preparing for a battle, and also prepping for that battle (to be a participant, not to just weather the storm.)

I sincerely believe that regardless of our hero worship of Captain Moroni and others, and also our worship of police officers and military men, this is not following the path that Christ has laid before us. This is not to disparage the police or the military - they are mostly brave men willingly risking their lives for a good cause. My friendship with many ex-military leads me to believe that many of them that have been involved in some of the worst missions experience PTSD because they know that in many of those cases, WE (the U,S, and allies) are the bad guys. This isn't my judgement, this is their judgement with first hand knowledge of the details of things that we have done.

Be that as it may, I simply cannot see Christ donning fatigues and picking up a weapon, be it a machine gun or a sword, to fight. Possibly with the exception of defense of his friends and family. Perhaps. But we must also remember the Book of Mormon example of Alma when Amulek believed they should stretch forth their hands to save the women and children being burned for their faith. Alma said no, and explained why. Then Amulek said maybe they will burn us too. Alma responded let it be as the Lord wills it, but we still have work to do, therefor they burn us not.

I would never tell someone not to defend their family and their neighbors. I would say, be VERY sure of the Lord's will in the matter either way. And if you have not lived to be able to know the will of the Lord, that is on you. And I may be condemning myself in that regard.

Do your best to live the best life that you can. Be aware of and resist to the best of your ability the continued growing influence of the gads. But always be striving to model your life after the savior's, certainly He called out the evil of his time, but He never took up arms against an army that was OCCUPYING the country He lived in! The one time in His life that He MAY have turned to violence (there are arguments over the translation) was throwing the moneychangers out of the temple.

Of course, each of you must follow their own path. I have had a brother on this forum say that if we were invaded, and I refused to fight that he and his friends would see me tried for treason and hung. This was not an off the cuff remark, it was clearly serious. Many use the example of Captain Moroni putting to death the king men who would not take up arms to defend the country. Those who believe that this is OK are in danger of hellfire and do not understand the scriptures.

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The best way we can oppose the latter-day gadiantons is to do just what President Oaks told in his April 2021 Conference address that us we should do.

“Our belief in divine inspiration gives Latter-day Saints a unique responsibility to uphold and defend the United States Constitution and principles of constitutionalism wherever we live.”

"Exercise our influence civilly and peacefully within the framework of our constitutions and applicable laws.”

"We should learn and advocate the inspired principles of the Constitution.”

“We should seek out and support wise and good persons who will support those principles in their public actions.”

“We should seek out and support wise and good persons who will support those principles in their public actions.”

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The secret combination that wants to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries sounds like a good description of the “New World Order.”

The biggest organization on planet earth is the devil’s kingdom. It is a multifaceted organization with millions of good people as members. These good people give the devil’s kingdom much needed credibility. We all belong to the devil’s kingdom in one degree or another.

None of us have ever bought or sold anything without a Federal Reserve Note. Who actually owns the Federal Reserve? We don’t know because it is a secret combination.

We are forced to pay taxes to the IRS even though there is NO LAW requiring us to do so. Who owns the the IRS? We don’t know because like the Federal Reserve the IRS is a secret combination.

Thanks to a hidden tax called inflation, which is created by the Federal Reserve or “Beast” as the Apostle John called it, most of us are just getting by because people in the devil’s kingdom have robbed us blind! There are more homeless people now than just a few years ago.

We live in an “awful situation,” but there is hope. The God of Heaven knows that we have been deceived by clever devil-inspired people.

In 2 Nephi 10:15 Jesus said that he will destroy the secret works of darkness. I believe that we are about to see justice served. I think that the evil people who actively work for the devil’s kingdom are about to fall into the pit that they dug for us.

I firmly believe that our situation is about to improve! Keep the faith and try to wake up the sleepy people who think “all is well in Zion.”

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It may be difficult to pinpoint who the actual earthly leaders of the conspiracy might be but their members are becoming quite overt with the display of their symbols and membership. The only protection we have against the combination is to have God as our Saviour and He will be our Saviour if we live according to His covenant for a promised land, a land on which most LDS live. We failed to do this in 1832 when the United Order was dissolved. Isaiah tells us in chapter 1 that we have failed because we do not take care of the poor and we do not stand up for the widow...

The combination is very powerful and gets most of its power via the printing of pieces of paper we call currency/money. Our use of this worthless currency to acquire the material goods of this world are what gives these worthless pieces of paper their value. The paper had no value when it was created but we have given it value the moment we used it. The creators of the paper can now use it to buy armies, guns, bombers, politicians, movie studios, newspapers... If you want an iPhone, car, a pair of jeans... you need money. Our only way out is to live a life wherein we do not use the Gadianton money; render unto Caesar. This has become impossible for most of us in our modern world and we will suffer accordingly. God will bless righteous individuals, but as a people we will necessarily have to endure much misery because of our failure to live the covenant that is described in the Book of Mormon wherein all is in common and there are no poor.

If the love of money is the root of all evil then it might be important to follow the money. Don't make the mistake that most people do of following where the money goes but rather go the other way and find out where the money comes from and who are the creators of it.

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Lundbaek said that he felt that the Globalists want to control the natural resources of the earth. I agree with that. Around my home town of Salmon Idaho the Forest Service has blocked off numerous old logging roads in the mountains to limit access. Salmon used to have a HUGE and prosperous lubber industry. One of the saw mills ran 24 hours per day. The environmentalists managed to shut down the saw mills. The economy in Salmon is very depressed and has been for many years since the destruction of the lumber industry.

The original purpose of the Forest Service was to manage our forests. In the beginning they did a terrific job of putting out forest fires and trees were harvested like a crop. My dad took me up into the mountains and showed me tracks of trees. They were organized in grids. The trees in each grid were different sizes and different ages. When the trees were old enough they were harvested and new trees were planted.

Eventually that all changed. The environmentalists didn’t like the “look” of those trees because it looked “unnatural.”

Anyway the environmentalists managed to kill the industry and now instead of managing the forests to maximize the natural resources and to minimize damage from fires the Forest Service does their best to minimize access to the forests and Forest Service employees now carry guns and can arrest people. The Forest Service has changed dramatically. They don’t manage the Forest anymore they manage people. They are becoming a gestapo organization.

A friend and co-worker told me that he used to ride his horse in the back country of Utah. He said that there were capped oil wells all over the state.

I had an opportunity to speak with a well driller who told me the same thing. I asked him why that was. He said he didn’t know, but suspected that the purpose was to drive up the price of oil.

I think that things will get better. In Duane S. Crowther’s book called “Prophecy” he quotes a prophecy by Brigham Young. According to Brigham Young someday the Lord will open up the “great oil reserves in Utah.” At this point the members of the Church will become wealthy. Brigham Young feared that the Saints would become corrupted by the wealth.

It’s clear to me that the Globalists want to lock up our natural resources to destroy the United States economy and save the resources for themselves after the collapse of the economy.

I think that it will backfire on them. When the economy and government collapse I think that the members of the Church and the good people of the earth will gather to those wilderness areas and use the natural resources for their survival. With no government agencies to stop them they will thrive! They will create their own economy and government and build up Zion.

The wicked people, which includes, the Globalists will avoid them because the fear of the Lord and the “terror” of the Lord will be with them.

I hate the Globalists and their satanic agenda, but I think that the Lord will put an end to their diabolical plan soon! I believe that they will soon “fall into the pit” that they dug for us. I do not like the power that the Globalists have now and I fear that things are going to get worse, but eventually righteousness will prevail and these Globalist Losers will start “warring among themselves.”

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letsjet wrote: May 19th, 2022, 9:12 am I hate the Globalists and their satanic agenda, but I think that the Lord will put an end to their diabolical plan soon! I believe that they will soon “fall into the pit” that they dug for us. I do not like the power that the Globalists have now and I fear that things are going to get worse, but eventually righteousness will prevail and these Globalist Losers will start “warring among themselves.”
I share your sentiments about the Globalists and I agree that the Lord will put an end to this soon but do you think that maybe we ourselves might be the ones who have dug our own pit? We have the Book of Mormon wherein our own God commands us to study the words of Isaiah because "they are great" and Isaiah curses our modern day world of manufacturing and living in cities. His covenant people are busy building malls and going shopping. Isaiah describes women who paint their faces and wear jewelry as the "excrement of Zion." It is our lust for worldly things that empowers the Globalists and it is the Globalists that have been raping the earth to supply our lusts.

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The only improvement in our "awful situation" that I can actually see so far is a noticeable increase in the number of Americans who are participating in such activities as Constitution study groups, John Birch Society meetings, precinct meetings, political campaigns, etc. Also encouraging for me was the hundreds of people who donated many hours of their time to participate in the Maricopa County election audit and other actions which clearly revealed vote fraud.

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MikeMaillet wrote: May 19th, 2022, 10:44 am
letsjet wrote: May 19th, 2022, 9:12 am I hate the Globalists and their satanic agenda, but I think that the Lord will put an end to their diabolical plan soon! I believe that they will soon “fall into the pit” that they dug for us. I do not like the power that the Globalists have now and I fear that things are going to get worse, but eventually righteousness will prevail and these Globalist Losers will start “warring among themselves.”
I share your sentiments about the Globalists and I agree that the Lord will put an end to this soon but do you think that maybe we ourselves might be the ones who have dug our own pit? We have the Book of Mormon wherein our own God commands us to study the words of Isaiah because "they are great" and Isaiah curses our modern day world of manufacturing and living in cities. His covenant people are busy building malls and going shopping. Isaiah describes women who paint their faces and wear jewelry as the "excrement of Zion." It is our lust for worldly things that empowers the Globalists and it is the Globalists that have been raping the earth to supply our lusts.

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The fact of the matter is, for better or worse, wickedness will concentrate where there are so many people concentrated. Interestingly enough, living in cities was dangerous scripturally when it came to the wrath of God.

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