What is this "secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries"?

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Below are some statements by people whose names you'll probably recognize, and whose credibility you may respect. However, the subject they are on about may be one you've not heard about in Church meetings or read about in Church publications. I felt to write this over a period of a couple of days, intending to share it with others, but now I don't feel like sharing it with anybody.

Nephi, son of Lehi, told us "concerning the last days", "And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of these things; yea, the founder of murder, and works of darkness". (2 Nephi 26:14 & 22)

Moroni, son of Mormon and the last of the Nephites, wrote a warning to us in our day of "murderous combinations...which are built up to get power and gain", and of a "secret combination that shall be among you" that "seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries". (Ether 8: 23, 24 & 25).

In that connection, in the October 1988 LDS Church General Conference, the prophet at that time, President Ezra Taft Benson, warned that "Secret combinations lusting for power, gain, and glory, are flourishing. A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world."

And Acting President and later President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Boyd K. Packer, speaking in a 16 January 2007 BYU Devotional, and later, in the August 2010 Ensign magazine (Pg. 23), stated, "We live in a time of war, that spiritual war that will never end. Moroni warned us that the secret combinations begun by Gadianton ‘are had among all people. . . . Wherefore, O ye Gentiles [and the term gentile in that place in the Book of Mormon refers to us in our generation], it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you. . . . Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you."

We note that in Moroni's warning we are advised to "suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you". And also, we should note that in both President Benson’s warning and in Moroni’s warning, there is reference to a single secret combination that "seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries", and “is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world."


So, just what is this "secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries"? And has it already gotten above us, and is it exercising control over America and the entire world? My answer to those questions is a resounding "YES"! But, my credibility being what it is - and isn't- I present just a few of many statements on this subject by a few more people whose names you'll probably recognize, and whose credibility you may respect.

“The same political tenets and philosophies that have brought war and terror in other parts of the world are at work amongst us in America. The proponents thereof are seeking to undermine our own form of government and to set up instead one of the forms of dictatorship now flourishing in other lands.” (President Heber J. Grant, General Conference—April 1942)

“[Satan] plans to destroy liberty and freedom... and to set up in place thereof the greatest, most widespread, and most complete tyranny that has ever oppressed men. He is working under such perfect disguise that many do not recognize either him or his methods.” (President Heber J. Grant, General Conference—October 1942)

“Satan works through human agents. We need only look to some of the ignoble characters in human history who were contemporary to the restoration of the gospel... I refer to the infamous founders of Communism and others who follow in their tradition.” (Elder Ezra Taft Benson, General Conference—October 1979)

Joseph Fielding Smith wrote in "Doctrines of Salvation", Vol.3, pp. 314-315: "Satan has control now. No matter where you look, he is in control, even in our own land. He is guiding the governments as far as the Lord will permit him. That is why there is so much strife, turmoil, confusion all over the earth. One master mind is governing the nations. It is not the President of the United States...it is not the king or government of England or any other land; it is Satan himself." (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 3, pp. 314-315)


Elder Bruce R. McConkie, speaking in the April 1980 General Conference, stated: "Gadianton robbers fill the judgement seats in many nations. An evil power seeks to overthrow the freedom of all nations and countries."

Dr. W. Cleon Skousen, on Page 115 of his book "The Naked Capitalist", wrote, "Actually, what we are witnessing is a very carefully and methodically executed program designed to destroy constitutional government as we have known it and make a shambles of the society which has wanted to keep the Constitution alive. Only then can a highly centralized, socialist state be established. To achieve this, the middle class in America must be ruthlessly squeezed out of existence."

In his book "Memoirs", published in 2002, David Rockefeller, Sr. made the following remarks: "For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

Former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, in a Council on Foreign Relations speech, 4/22/97, as reported in the Sept 1999 McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, stated: "Clearly we cannot meet the challenges of the new millennium with an instrument designed for the very different circumstances of the middle of the twentieth century. Make no mistake about it, the anticipated reforms will erode national sovereignty, infringe on personal liberties, and lead the world into a system of global governance."

Barry Goldwater, in his book "With No Apologies" , wrote: "Rear Admiral Chester Ward, USN (Ret'd), who was a member of the CFR for sixteen years, has written The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common - they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the United States. Their goal is to impose a benign stability on the quarreling family of nations through merger and consolidation. They see the elimination of national boundaries, the suppression of racial and ethnic loyalties as the most expeditious avenue to world peace." Pg. 278.

“From the days of Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx... this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society... has been steadily growing.” (Winston Churchill, Illustrated Sunday Herald, p. 5—February 8, 1920)


I can find no reason to question or doubt the accuracy of the statements that I have quoted here that are prophesied in the Book of Mormon, in statements by latter-day prophets and apostles, or by the few others I have quoted . Nor can I find reason to assume they apply to some other time. Consequently, I have to conclude that at least there has been and continues to exist a satanically driven conspiracy to overthrow the freedom of and gain control of all nations. These warnings, if taken seriously, should motivate us to do at least these things:
1.) Awake to a sense of our awful situation as commanded by the Lord and passed on to us by Moroni. (Ether 8:24). In his October 1987 General Conference address “Our Divine Constitution” President Ezra Taft Benson told us of five things that we “must” do. One of those, the last of the five, was that “We must be accurately informed.” As I see it, that requires Latter-day Saints to acquaint them-selves with what is going on in our world. And I believe we cannot become accurately informed without guidance (and I do mean personal revelation) from God.
2.) Learn the principles of the U.S. Constitution in the tradition of the Founding Fathers. This is the second of the five things that President Benson told us that we “must” do in his October 1987 General Conference address “Our Divine Constitution”. A good understanding of the principles of the U.S. Constitution and how it was established should enable one to better understand why our road is getting increasingly bumpy. And it also affords at least a glimpse of what needs to happen to smoothen that road.
I consider it essential that we recognize the continuation of the conspiracy/secret combination that Moroni warned us “shall be among you”. I hope the above quoted statements will somehow inspire you to find ways that you can help smoothen the road ahead.

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excellent post, thank you for sharing.

Mormons ought to be THE BEST informed people on the planet on anything to do with Liberty & Freedom. We should be on the forefront of fighting these combinations. When folks outside our church think of us, they shouldn't think of "Wheat under the Bed"; no. Rather, they should think, "Freedom and liberty in Jesus Christ" and "Defenders of the Constitution".

The fact that we are NOT thought of in these terms is to our shame.

Instead, we have imposters like Harry Reid and Mitt Romney as our "shining examples".

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The Watchtower was never built. Tithing money was carted away to the exchangers. Oops. No one is watching for the enemy.

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I don't think we know what or who it is. Not yet.

I always thought that was one of the themes of Revelation, the eventual revealing of who/what the secret combination is and the person or people behind it. Then the chaos that follows such revelation and how people react to the new knowledge.

I do think many people do know more, atleast part, but they are too enticed or too threatened to speak.

I don't think you get to any high position in society without being introduced to their ways. So if you were to be a say....international businessman, supreme court judge, or university president....those people are probably proven initiates.

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"Satan has control now. No matter where you look, he is in control, even in our own land. He is guiding the governments as far as the Lord will permit him. That is why there is so much strife, turmoil, confusion all over the earth. One master mind is governing the nations. It is not the President of the United States...it is not the king or government of England or any other land; it is Satan himself." (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 3, pp. 314-315)

His immediate minions are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes. Others are more visible and you can recognize them.

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Thanks Lundbeck, i had forgotten that quote...

Was that Joseph Fielding himself? Or was he quoting someone?

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tribrac wrote: April 15th, 2022, 2:43 pm I don't think we know what or who it is. Not yet.

I always thought that was one of the themes of Revelation, the eventual revealing of who/what the secret combination is and the person or people behind it. Then the chaos that follows such revelation and how people react to the new knowledge.

I do think many people do know more, atleast part, but they are too enticed or too threatened to speak.

I don't think you get to any high position in society without being introduced to their ways. So if you were to be a say....international businessman, supreme court judge, or university president....those people are probably proven initiates.
I have studied pondered and prayed about this topic, and I think I have a good idea of the who and the what.

The Book of Mormon tells us that these secret combinations were had since the time of Cain when he became Master Mahan. We know that the covenant with the devil was to kill to get gain.
We also know from the Book of Mormon that a tactic of the secret combination is to offer to share in their spoils to all that will join with them.

Anyone who supports these two precepts is either wittingly or unwittingly serving the purposes of the Secret Combination.
People who support foreign wars to maintain our power in the world.
People who are capable of working to support themselves but CHOOSE to live off of the welfare system and other programs that redistribute wealth. This includes subsidies and other
programs that "assist" people of almost all economic situations.
People who "grind on the poor", paying a bare minimum and exploiting others.
People who thru their actions support slave labor or others who do not give the laborer his wages. (The solution to this is not minimum wage laws and similar "well-intentioned"
legislative approaches.

In short, virtually all of us do some of the above to some extent. This is the general statement, and we all are to a degree guilty.

To be more specific, the devil is at the head of the conspiracy.

I believe that in modern times, the "father" of the secret combinations is Mayer Amshell Rothschilde. His money has funded thru the centuries virtually every major organization of the conspiracy. The Bavarian Illuminati, the Communists, The central banks of all nations and the BIS (Bank of International Settlements), the CFR (and analogous groups throughout the world), and as I am sure most of you know controls most or all of the mainstream media, the wire services, and Big Tech, Big Pharma) and many others.

I believe that there is a "Councill of 13" but I do not know who they are other than the devil being a member.

I believe that people in all of the above range from a few who probably know who they serve and probably interact directly with him, down to people like many of us who unknowingly serve, who believe they are accomplishing good and who are deceived.

I would suspect that all churches other than The Church of the Firstborn have been at minimum infiltrated, and at worse are led by people who knowingly serve the devil.

I have no proof of any of this. But I am all but certain of almost all of it.

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I believe the secret combination that seeks to overthrow us has been here for a while. It’s communists, globalists, elitists, (wef, UN, governments, churches) combining to take away freedoms from all people. They know what they are doing and they want us as their slaves and experiments.

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Communism is only one part of it. The greediest capitalists and many old aristocratic families have stakes in it

Some may be true believers. They may think a centralised world is inevitable, much as we have moved from tribes and tiny states to empires and economic unions. They may genuinely think it will help the environment, provide a united response to genuine problems and eliminate war and poverty.

Except it won't.

Automation will put most people out of work. It is already doing so. Now in white collar work such as accountancy etc. That means billions of angry people and a few thousand fat cats living off investments. They need ways to keep the masses off their backs - infighting, virtual reality, sex and pornography.

The Fourth Industrial Revolution will do massive, possibly irreversible damage to the environment.

A global state could even start out well intentioned... however, the corrupt political classes of most countries will infect it, and there will also be no way to challenge it if it goes wrong.

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When it goes wrong. Power attracts the corruptible, and on this world, globalism represents ultimate power.

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tribrac wrote: April 15th, 2022, 3:52 pm Thanks Lundbeck, i had forgotten that quote...

Was that Joseph Fielding himself? Or was he quoting someone?
That statement by Joseph Fielding Smith was his statement. I have read it in that volume of his book.

I appreciate all of you who have chimed in on this topic. Thanks.

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Any system that deploys deception and force is IMO an evil combination...

Thanks for the quotes !!

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BroJones wrote: April 15th, 2022, 8:41 pm Any system that deploys deception and force is IMO an evil combination...
That would include virtually every power structure ever created. Agrarians would say deception and force are requirements in any centralized top down system of government.

So is the solution for people to live in small self-governing units and to eliminate big central govt? If the US Constitution, BoR etc can't safeguard against abuse and corruption of power, what can?

Feeling sad and despairing today 😔

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I think the US Constitution and BoR are sufficient to safeguard against corruption, except we aren't following the provisions on money creation. We think Capitalism is associated with Constitutional government, but it isn't. If we really followed the US Constitution we could enjoy a truly free market economy without the unelected capitalists and their usury. Our current corrupt economic system has allowed the concentration of economic power, which then is used to control politics, media, etc.

We currently have a fractional reserve money system that allows FED-member banks to borrow money at next to zero interest (prime) and then lend 10x, 1000x, or even 10000x that money to you and and me, collecting usury on the money the banks themselves created.

The US Constitution, on the other hand, specifies that Congress/Treasury and not the FED or FED-member banks are to "coin" our money and not just a small fraction of it.

We just don't follow our own Constitution. Control of our own credit and currency was one of the major reasons for the US Revolution (not just taxation without representation).

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One of the tactics of globalism is to have everyone own each other's infrastructure, e.g. many Canadian assets will be owned by Americans and many American assets will be owned by Europeans, who will in turn have many of their assets owned by China.

A lot of American companies put their money in British run tax havens and Switzerland, own assets on every continent and have staff who aren't remotely American.

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Im really not sure how to interpret the whole secret combinations. To some degree I think it is part of general wickedness and maybe some ideologies, but I have failed to say that kind of cohesion.

In the book of revelations Chapter thirteen gives the fullest description. John saw it "rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy." (Revelation 13:1) It was like a leopard, with feet like the feet of a bear, and had a mouth like a lion.

This symbolizes that it will look like they are separate but that they are all connected to the main body in some way.

Im not sure what I am missing. I


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Remember that both Moroni and President Ezra Taft Benson wrote/spoke of "A SECRET COMBINATION: singular. They acknowledged multiple secret combinations, but also warned of A secret combination. It's not so secret any more, as more and more cats are getting out of the bag.

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Book of revelation overview 1983

Further Background on Satan’s Kingdom (Rev. 17)

At this point, John is once again given additional background on Satan’s kingdom which puts into perspective the next events he will be shown. An angel describes a great whore, with whom people of the earth have committed spiritual fornication. This whore is the Satanic counterpart of the woman in chapter 12, which is the church of Christ. John learns that this great whore sits on many waters, which represent the peoples of the earth (see Rev. 17:1, 15); sits on the head of a beast, or earthly kingdom which is full of “names of blasphemy” (see Rev. 17:3); and is “drunken with the blood of the saints” (see Rev. 17:6). Many earthly kingdoms are associated with her and will give their power to the beast and “make war with the Lamb.” (See Rev. 17:7–18.) NOTE: Nephi had a similar vision. See 1 Ne. 13:4–9, 24–29, 34; 1 Ne. 14:9–17.

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From my own investigations, the goal of the globalists is total control over all the earth's resources: human resources, natural resources, industrial and manufacturing resources, economic and financial resources, agricultural resources, intellectual resources, and others I fail to think of just now. They have gained But we have been warned. "Satan has control now. No matter where you look, he is in control, even in our own land. He is guiding the governments as far as the Lord will permit him." (Joseph Fielding Smith).

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lundbaek wrote: April 19th, 2022, 3:17 pm Remember that both Moroni and President Ezra Taft Benson wrote/spoke of "A SECRET COMBINATION: singular. They acknowledged multiple secret combinations, but also warned of A secret combination. It's not so secret any more, as more and more cats are getting out of the bag.
Its still secret because we aren't privy to their deliberations and their oaths and the identity of most of their members. However, the more they uncloak their agendas, the more 'concrete' and real they become to the general public. And they HAVE to have very visible public agents to implement their agendas. A few of these agents are exceedingly apparent.

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larsenb wrote: April 19th, 2022, 11:03 pm . . . . . Its still secret because we aren't privy to their deliberations and their oaths and the identity of most of their members. However, the more they uncloak their agendas, the more 'concrete' and real they become to the general public. And they HAVE to have very visible public agents to implement their agendas. A few of these agents are exceedingly apparent.
And one of these highly visible and key agendas that has become even more publicized and apparent with the 'planedemic' of the past 2 years plus, is the globalist's push for population control and reduction in order to "save the planet"; i.e., save the earth from the human infestation.

Soooo many people have waked up to this push in the last couple of years.

And this was an amazing hit for Moroni in Ether 8:25, where he not only said: "For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries" but went on to say: "and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people".

Of course the globalists only claim something like an 80% reduction of the population, which of course, itself, amounts to inconceivable mass murder. But the agenda of the 'dark one', would be to bring the population down to zero. And whose to say that the globalists can actually control the means they use to achieve population reduction. How easy might it be for these means to get out of control?

Sorry if this thought is too depressing. Moroni said it first, though.

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The creator of communism was a zionist. According to https://www.bitchute.com/video/s1nPYDj7KBEQ/ the zionists overthrew the Russian royal family and took control of the country while slaughtering millions. The same people are supposedly behind the globalist movement, green/climate change movement and the UN. They most likely are responsible for the liberalization of college campuses and the CRT/homo/trans movement as well as the normalization of abortion and the destruction of the atomic family. From what I can see they are in charge of Canada, AUS, most European countries and the US, with much of the autonomy being located in NY and on wall street. They also own Hollywood which is why there is so much satanic imagery in popular culture. A church representative was invited to attend a UN meeting last year or so. I trust the church as an institution but I have my reservations as well. The doctrine however is not as easily meddled with.

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Original_Intent wrote: April 15th, 2022, 4:03 pm
tribrac wrote: April 15th, 2022, 2:43 pm I don't think we know what or who it is. Not yet.

I always thought that was one of the themes of Revelation, the eventual revealing of who/what the secret combination is and the person or people behind it. Then the chaos that follows such revelation and how people react to the new knowledge.

I do think many people do know more, atleast part, but they are too enticed or too threatened to speak.

I don't think you get to any high position in society without being introduced to their ways. So if you were to be a say....international businessman, supreme court judge, or university president....those people are probably proven initiates.
I have studied pondered and prayed about this topic, and I think I have a good idea of the who and the what.

The Book of Mormon tells us that these secret combinations were had since the time of Cain when he became Master Mahan. We know that the covenant with the devil was to kill to get gain.
We also know from the Book of Mormon that a tactic of the secret combination is to offer to share in their spoils to all that will join with them.

Anyone who supports these two precepts is either wittingly or unwittingly serving the purposes of the Secret Combination.
People who support foreign wars to maintain our power in the world.
People who are capable of working to support themselves but CHOOSE to live off of the welfare system and other programs that redistribute wealth. This includes subsidies and other
programs that "assist" people of almost all economic situations.
People who "grind on the poor", paying a bare minimum and exploiting others.
People who thru their actions support slave labor or others who do not give the laborer his wages. (The solution to this is not minimum wage laws and similar "well-intentioned"
legislative approaches.

In short, virtually all of us do some of the above to some extent. This is the general statement, and we all are to a degree guilty.

To be more specific, the devil is at the head of the conspiracy.

I believe that in modern times, the "father" of the secret combinations is Mayer Amshell Rothschilde. His money has funded thru the centuries virtually every major organization of the conspiracy. The Bavarian Illuminati, the Communists, The central banks of all nations and the BIS (Bank of International Settlements), the CFR (and analogous groups throughout the world), and as I am sure most of you know controls most or all of the mainstream media, the wire services, and Big Tech, Big Pharma) and many others.

I believe that there is a "Councill of 13" but I do not know who they are other than the devil being a member.

I believe that people in all of the above range from a few who probably know who they serve and probably interact directly with him, down to people like many of us who unknowingly serve, who believe they are accomplishing good and who are deceived.

I would suspect that all churches other than The Church of the Firstborn have been at minimum infiltrated, and at worse are led by people who knowingly serve the devil.

I have no proof of any of this. But I am all but certain of almost all of it.
I too believe there is a Master Mayan alive today with 12 disciples. I dare say the first in the latter days was called by Satan around the same time as Joseph Smith. mid to late 1800s Germany

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Sarah wrote: April 19th, 2022, 3:04 pm Interesting video:
A lot of that is a stretch, particularly saying a football looks like a corona virus.

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