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I dug around quite a bit and found this database. https://farm.ewg.org/

Oddly (?) they don't have any information available on who got how much starting in 2019. Seems pretty sketchy - anyone have any ideas on how to dig into this further?

I also found a lot of stories from early 2021 that farmers were paid record amounts to either destroy crops or not grow in the first place. This should play well into the coming food shortages, but of course it will all be Putin's fault.

Wouldn’t be the first time the US gov suppressed records. If you look for Port Authority immigration records in New York you’ll find two years mysteriously unavailable right after WWII. The government won’t release them. A good tactic when there is something to hide.

Original_Intent wrote: ↑April 5th, 2022, 11:46 am I dug around quite a bit and found this database. https://farm.ewg.org/

Oddly (?) they don't have any information available on who got how much starting in 2019. Seems pretty sketchy - anyone have any ideas on how to dig into this further?

I also found a lot of stories from early 2021 that farmers were paid record amounts to either destroy crops or not grow in the first place. This should play well into the coming food shortages, but of course it will all be Putin's fault.

Crop subsidies go to the operator of the land, not the landowner … unless he is also the operator. So, assuming he leases out most of his farmland, he would not be a recipient of crop subsidies. Also, there is an income test as to whether one is eligible.

I believe the income limit is 950000.00 per operation...after that subsidies are lowered or not paid. There are drought/forage payments being distributed in some places now. All operations must already be signed up with the usda to get the subsidies at the beginning of each year or enrolled in programs with the usda to get subsidies. I also known that 1 billion dollars was distributed between approx 40 integrators/meat packers earlier this year, with the top four packers getting the bulk of the money. News articles reporting on the billion dollars said this was given to lower meat prices...ya right..as far as I know gates wasn't included in the billion dollars... I will look at some Washington usda info to see if Bill gates is listed.,, I think (not 100 percent sure) his company is called cottonwood ag management based in Kirkland wa....

Edit to add bill gates also works under cascade investments llc as well. Cascade bought 100 circles in Eastern WA a few years ago....which is Bill gates for sure

I think Freehold land ownership needs to be reinstated.

Meaning once you own the ground free and clear. No one can take it from you. No one can tax it from you. No one can condemn it for the greater good.

Freehold land can be handed down thru generations of decedents without so much as a dime in “inheritance taxes” being levied.

the income limit is easily circumvented by large operations…..

also, the payments don’t always go to the “operator”, some rental/lease agreements are written so payments stay with the land owner(s)…..and thats usually most common with land investor's, they don’t miss a trick…it usually depends on what base acres are already established?

those “stories” of farmers being paid to destroy or not to plant is mostly fake…..early in 2021, somewhere in the NW, 1 of the Govt agencies shutdown a irrigation water source and those farmers effected received payments for their crops or planned crops that where effected…..that’s what started the those hyped stories..

farmerchick wrote: ↑April 5th, 2022, 5:47 pm I believe the income limit is 950000.00 per operation...after that subsidies are lowered or not paid. There are drought/forage payments being distributed in some places now. All operations must already be signed up with the usda to get the subsidies at the beginning of each year or enrolled in programs with the usda to get subsidies. I also known that 1 billion dollars was distributed between approx 40 integrators/meat packers earlier this year, with the top four packers getting the bulk of the money. News articles reporting on the billion dollars said this was given to lower meat prices...ya right..as far as I know gates wasn't included in the billion dollars... I will look at some Washington usda info to see if Bill gates is listed.,, I think (not 100 percent sure) his company is called cottonwood ag management based in Kirkland wa....

Edit to add bill gates also works under cascade investments llc as well. Cascade bought 100 circles in Eastern WA a few years ago....which is Bill gates for sure

wonder if Tyson food got money . . .or are considered top meat producer . . .the owner is a friend of Hilary Clintons back in the governor days . . .he ran drugs for her . . . then got a real job as owner of Tyson Foods . . .

2020 - 2021, the farmers were selling corn and wheat, pigs and soy bean to China in record amounts because the pandemic caused a food shortage and China wanted to feed their people . . . I was living in So Dakota where I listened to a radio station that reported the ag business news from 5 states . .

.I love radio . . it used to be mostly conservative with only the liberal lying NPR on it . . .

anyway, I listened to them month after month tell of the record amounts of food being sold . . . great prices for the farmers . . . . no government sanctions . . . but the constant warnings that USA would be short of food . . . best radio station I've ever listened to . . .

somehow my son has gotten the same information cuz last week, I went to Utah to visit and he was telling me the same story of Chinas purchases including pigs . . .

EvanLM wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 6:11 pm

farmerchick wrote: ↑April 5th, 2022, 5:47 pm I believe the income limit is 950000.00 per operation...after that subsidies are lowered or not paid. There are drought/forage payments being distributed in some places now. All operations must already be signed up with the usda to get the subsidies at the beginning of each year or enrolled in programs with the usda to get subsidies. I also known that 1 billion dollars was distributed between approx 40 integrators/meat packers earlier this year, with the top four packers getting the bulk of the money. News articles reporting on the billion dollars said this was given to lower meat prices...ya right..as far as I know gates wasn't included in the billion dollars... I will look at some Washington usda info to see if Bill gates is listed.,, I think (not 100 percent sure) his company is called cottonwood ag management based in Kirkland wa....

Edit to add bill gates also works under cascade investments llc as well. Cascade bought 100 circles in Eastern WA a few years ago....which is Bill gates for sure

wonder if Tyson food got money . . .or are considered top meat producer . . .the owner is a friend of Hilary Clintons back in the governor days . . .he ran drugs for her . . . then got a real job as owner of Tyson Foods . . .

Yes Tyson got a lot of it.....and yes they are the dirtiest integrator of poultry out there..they went to China a couple decades ago and have quite a portfolio there as well...

Tyson Cargill jbs and a smaller one which I can't remember right now got most of the money.....

interestingly Tyson foods is owned by Donald Tyson at 10 percent and other investors own the rest...blackrock owns a little over five percent....huh..who would of thought Blackrock was an owner of Tyson the second biggest processor/integrator of meat in the US....and a recipient of the billion dollar give away...

just like nearly every other segment of big business’s media coverage in the US…..Agrobusiness’s is riddled with complete falsehoods & very liberal stats…..

a little over a year ago, i signed up for RFD TV’s online streaming service because they where going to show the original Mutual of Omaha’s TV series……after 2 months i canceled the service, their whole platform is a Globalist guided news service, they pushed the V_x harder than any other outlet i saw, it was grotesque to say the least.

all the farm mags i still receive for free are the same way, the same Globalist narrative…

i don’t believe ANY stats provided by Govt or private entities per Agrobusiness in the US…..

if u know much about Ag, the most important stat concerning the grain & livestock markets is what’s called the “local basis bids”, that said, u also need to know whom are the buyers/processors in certain areas as their basis bids can be skewed in their favor that don’t reflect actual market fundamentals because of their collaborative agenda….