Your home for discussing politics, the restored gospel of Jesus Christ, and the principles of liberty.
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/
Yes. Intimating that you know what's coming but refrain from speaking it ... what sort of worth is that?
Yeah, well when it's not a real thing to begin with, of course he missed the boat. And I found it totally useless to fast for an end to something that isn't. Now fasting for an enlightened leadership on the scamdemic subject is definitely worth it. So far, it hasn't come to fruition yet.OPMissionary wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 8:49 am The last time he made a prediction it didn't exactly go so well. If I recall he said something along the lines of "this pandemic will not last long." That one really came back to bite them. Even after he admonished members and non-members alike to participate in not one, but two worldwide fasts to "stop the spread" or whatever it was, the supposed pandemic is not even completely resolved still according to the "experts." This is why they usually refrain from making prognostications.
I really hadn't noticed that (I mostly wasn't watching, but listening). But now subsequently viewing the conference, I do agree.NeveR wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 12:49 am He looked like a tired, sold out, empty old man to me, reciting words put in his mouth by a team of script writers. As relevant and sincere as Biden.
They don't need to try because they know they have an army of broken-hearted true believers out there who will strive to see the meaning that just isn't there.
NeveR wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 12:49 am He looked like a tired, sold out, empty old man to me, reciting words put in his mouth by a team of script writers. As relevant and sincere as Biden.
They don't need to try because they know they have an army of broken-hearted true believers out there who will strive to see the meaning that just isn't there.
In his Sunday morning talk he spoke of a dream he had. Coming on the heels of the church members all learning in "Come Follow Me" about Joseph of Egypt having dreams and interpreting dreams someone surely hopes we will make the connection between RMN and the Patriarch Joseph. Interesting that the dream (if explained as it actually happened) was merely a mish mash of warmed over mormonism and the "Covenant Path" (which isn't anything more than rebranding/repackaging the plan of salvation) and no real insight.
That's ironic, since Blackrock and Vanguard own the stocks of every major corporation. That means they all own each other which further means that there are no competing brands.BroJones wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 3:25 am Public warnings from BlackRock President and others:
"The president of the world's largest asset management company just issued a stark warning to members of America's "entitled generation."
BlackRock co-founder and president Robert Kapito said Tuesday that the global supply chain and soaring inflation crises will soon have dramatic effects on the U.S. economy that will result in a noticeable scarcity of goods not experienced before by many younger Americans.
That scarcity, he said, will likely be a shock to the system for many who are accustomed to an abundant and comfortable lifestyle.
"For the first time, this generation is going to go into a store and not be able to get what they want," Kapito said, adding, "We have a very entitled generation that has never had to sacrifice."
"I would put on your seatbelts, because this is something that we haven’t seen," he asserted, in reference to what he called "scarcity inflation."
Kapito's remarks, first reported by Bloomberg News, were made at the Texas Independent Producers and Royalty Owners Association convention — an annual gathering of oil and gas industry leaders.
The warning comes just days after Bloomberg economists advised Americans to consider budgeting an extra $5,200 this year — or $433 monthly — to prepare for the effects of historically high inflation."
the comments from nelson and other GA's are so bland and unprophetic you could literally work them into ANY sermon from any religious leader or televangelist and no one would notice.Pazooka wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 9:07 pm I transcribed it:
Probably one of the most anti-prophetic things I’ve ever heard, actually.This conference has been historic in many ways. We have been blessed by the prayers, messages and music. We have been inspired by servants of the Lord. We have received important direction for the future. My prayer is that the Spirit has spoken to you directly about the things the Lord would have you do. The future is always uncertain. Weather changes. Economic cycles are unpredictable. Disasters, wars and accidents, illness can change life quickly. These actions are largely beyond our control but there are some things we can control, including how we spend our time each day. I like this poem by Henry Van Dyke posted on a sundial at Wells College in NY. It reads:
The shadow by my finger cast divides the future from the past:
Before it sleeps the unborn hour in darkness, and beyond thy power.
Behind its unreturning line, the vanished hour, no longer thine:
One hour alone is in thy hands,
The now on which the shadow stands.
Yes, we should learn from the past, and yes, we should learn from the future. But only now can we do. Now is the time we can learn. Now is the time we can repent. Now is the time we can bless others and life up the hands that hang down...
JSmith wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 10:33 amthe comments from nelson and other GA's are so bland and unprophetic you could literally work them into ANY sermon from any religious leader or televangelist and no one would notice.Pazooka wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 9:07 pm I transcribed it:
Probably one of the most anti-prophetic things I’ve ever heard, actually.This conference has been historic in many ways. We have been blessed by the prayers, messages and music. We have been inspired by servants of the Lord. We have received important direction for the future. My prayer is that the Spirit has spoken to you directly about the things the Lord would have you do. The future is always uncertain. Weather changes. Economic cycles are unpredictable. Disasters, wars and accidents, illness can change life quickly. These actions are largely beyond our control but there are some things we can control, including how we spend our time each day. I like this poem by Henry Van Dyke posted on a sundial at Wells College in NY. It reads:
The shadow by my finger cast divides the future from the past:
Before it sleeps the unborn hour in darkness, and beyond thy power.
Behind its unreturning line, the vanished hour, no longer thine:
One hour alone is in thy hands,
The now on which the shadow stands.
Yes, we should learn from the past, and yes, we should learn from the future. But only now can we do. Now is the time we can learn. Now is the time we can repent. Now is the time we can bless others and life up the hands that hang down...
the only thing that sets LDS church leadership apart is the claim to authority, which at times seems tenuous at best.
This is an interesting take as I have personally seen him finally able to implement things they way he has always wanted them. You can see flavors of this all through his talks prior to being the Prophet.NeveR wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 12:49 am He looked like a tired, sold out, empty old man to me, reciting words put in his mouth by a team of script writers. As relevant and sincere as Biden.
They don't need to try because they know they have an army of broken-hearted true believers out there who will strive to see the meaning that just isn't there.
Isn't that what is known as gaslighting the members?LDS Physician wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 9:12 amYes. Intimating that you know what's coming but refrain from speaking it ... what sort of worth is that?
Saddened, but not surprised. They urged members to get the shot in 1976 that was later discontinued for serious safety reasons. No comment. More recently the Church has financially helped (through gavi) get girls vaxxed with gardasil. Safety concerns with that too. But no comment.InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 11:15 am I was saddened to learn that President Nelson did not know that parts of the novel coronavirus genome had been patented by Moderna in 2016. I was also saddened to learn that President Nelson did not have any comments about how the "Godsend" shots were completely ineffective and downright harmful.
Sounds like they want all of this nonsense they participated in and promoted swept under the rug and forgotten about. In six months, there will never be a peep about the "pandemic" out of their mouths during GC.
silverado wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 11:30 amSaddened, but not surprised. They urged members to get the shot in 1976 that was later discontinued for serious safety reasons. No comment. More recently the Church has financially helped (through gavi) get girls vaxxed with gardasil. Safety concerns with that too. But no comment.InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 11:15 am I was saddened to learn that President Nelson did not know that parts of the novel coronavirus genome had been patented by Moderna in 2016. I was also saddened to learn that President Nelson did not have any comments about how the "Godsend" shots were completely ineffective and downright harmful.
Sounds like they want all of this nonsense they participated in and promoted swept under the rug and forgotten about. In six months, there will never be a peep about the "pandemic" out of their mouths during GC.
So basically, the folks saying things like homosexuality is ok based on the leaders position will then have to change their tunes completely if a harder core prophet comes along saying without reservation that it's an absolute sin?zionssuburb wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 11:23 amThis is an interesting take as I have personally seen him finally able to implement things they way he has always wanted them. You can see flavors of this all through his talks prior to being the Prophet.NeveR wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 12:49 am He looked like a tired, sold out, empty old man to me, reciting words put in his mouth by a team of script writers. As relevant and sincere as Biden.
They don't need to try because they know they have an army of broken-hearted true believers out there who will strive to see the meaning that just isn't there.
YES that was after like 25 deaths. The Pfizer data dump recently showed over 1200 deaths from their clinical trials. THAT right there should have shut this whole thing down.
I would love it if he said, we should learn from the future."Pazooka wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 9:07 pm I transcribed it:
Probably one of the most anti-prophetic things I’ve ever heard, actually.This conference has been historic in many ways. We have been blessed by the prayers, messages and music. We have been inspired by servants of the Lord. We have received important direction for the future. My prayer is that the Spirit has spoken to you directly about the things the Lord would have you do. The future is always uncertain. Weather changes. Economic cycles are unpredictable. Disasters, wars and accidents, illness can change life quickly. These actions are largely beyond our control but there are some things we can control, including how we spend our time each day. I like this poem by Henry Van Dyke posted on a sundial at Wells College in NY. It reads:
The shadow by my finger cast divides the future from the past:
Before it sleeps the unborn hour in darkness, and beyond thy power.
Behind its unreturning line, the vanished hour, no longer thine:
One hour alone is in thy hands,
The now on which the shadow stands.
Yes, we should learn from the past, and yes, we should learn from the future. But only now can we do. Now is the time we can learn. Now is the time we can repent. Now is the time we can bless others and life up the hands that hang down...
I do not feel the same sense of blind obedience that you are describing. As always, the majority fail to receive the message, or just ignore it altogether. I, for one, have failed to pray before a Conference for specific guidance until this time. My prayer was resoundly answered by four talks! President Kimball gave a talk about the evils of military build up, of which Hugh Nibley said that the talk was immediately put in the deep freeze, i.e. completely ignored by the saints. This is standard procedure. Conference is perceived as a buffet, take what you want, the the rest.762X545 wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 9:14 pm I question the notion that he is "constrained," from revealing some sort of revelation to the members of the church. What's the point of even having a prophet then if he can't say anything. It's not like he (or any recent prophet) has given any real guidance that has been disregarded by the membership. The vast majority of members live and die on every little word that spews from Rusty's mouth. He says jump, they jump. They aren't disregarding the voice of a claimed prophet. They may me disregarding the voice of the Lord...but not the "prophet."