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Yep.....the planned destruction of our economy that is happening because of the printing of money which is stimulating run away inflation...then they will need programmable digital money to control what we buy tamping down inflation by controlling demand...then we will have scarcity of products and services as well as high taxes associated with the green new deal.. ...rinse repeat....till they capture all the assets of the common man....you'll own nothing by 2030 and you'll be happy...great right???

This has been discussed for decades... and gradually phased in.

It even appears in Star Trek the Next Generation back in the 1980s.

GeeR wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 12:25 pm https://www.infowars.com/posts/top-econ ... lockchain/

so the printing of money is uncontrollable . . . but . . .I thought that loans actually happen through the computer version of just electronic creditsends of money to cover bank loans without the actual printing . . . still no value . . .

so . . .how is bitcoins type of transactions gonna support a currency with no backing but the investors in it . . . hmmmm . . and what do we know about investors . . . I know that thesde transactions are too expensive for me and especially if I need to go through the exchange from one company to another in bitcoin or whatever . . . .

I really can't imagine that our fed control would ever give up the printing of money and the control that it offers them. . . i say hold on to those dollars

Russia pegs Ruble to gold. That would make Russia's money the only currency on earth back by anything besides air. The price is a little low, but Russia can adjust the oil price to compensate.
US money still buys stuff if you have enough. The value goes down every single day, though. Food, tools, silver. Stock up.

I think money/currency is a huge distraction for us and our love of it is what will ruin us and the promised land on which we currently live. Does it really matter if a currency is backed up by anything? At the end of the chain, your paper receipt can only be cashed in for what is backing it up. A currency backed up by gold only means that we are labouring for gold and we know that gold cannot save.

Our jobs as LDS is to live the covenant wherein there are no poor. What do we need cash for if all things are in common? Money does provide access to the wares of Babylon, however. Those new iPhones (or whatever other shiny crap that captures our imagination) can only be acquired with cash. If one wants the wares of Babylon then one has to be a participant in Babylon. There is no money in Zion; money is a human construct designed to steer us away from Zion. There was a poster the other day that stated that we LDS should be living in a way that people might confuse us for the Amish. Amen, Brother; Testify!

If we were all farmers and grew our own food we would take care of the land on which we rely for our lives. We would be strong and healthy and it would not matter if one was born with an IQ of 100 or an IQ of 150; our lifestyle would make us more equal. By living the covenant we would be privy to God's protection from our mortal enemies and we would eat the good of the land.

Our lifestyle is making us sick and our use of phoney money is what gives the money its power and it is what empowers the Gadianton robbers (Satanists who run the central banks) to buy up armies and navies that will be used to destroy us. We need to keep in mind that the world is controlled by the Gadiantons and that all their decisions are designed to destroy the agency of mankind and ruin God's ultimate creation. Remember that the glory of God is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man and that the wars we are embroiled in are all religious wars.

I'm 64 years old and it has taken me this long to figure this out. Maybe I'm a slow learner. I'm appreciating more what it means to have that "awful feeling" when one realizes how the world is run. I have no land, no farming skills and not enough time in my life to change these things.

In the words of one of my favourite music groups, DEVO: "The lucky ones are going to be the first to go."

Mike Maillet
Ingleside, Ontario

I took my daughter up Mill Creek Canyon which is a state Park east of Salt Lake, and requires a fee. We went and ate a bucket of chicken and decided it was too cold so we came back. Payments are received when you leave. Cash is not accepted. They want to track every visitor. I asked what would happen if I did not have a card, but only real money? She would call the police.

Fred wrote: ↑April 5th, 2022, 4:43 pm I took my daughter up Mill Creek Canyon which is a state Park east of Salt Lake, and requires a fee. We went and ate a bucket of chicken and decided it was too cold so we came back. Payments are received when you leave. Cash is not accepted. They want to track every visitor. I asked what would happen if I did not have a card, but only real money? She would call the police.

Desolation Lake is an awesome place.

Venezuela abolished money a while back.

Niemand wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 6:54 am Venezuela abolished money a while back.

And I don't see an influx of people moving to Venezuela.

Mike

MikeMaillet wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 8:03 am

Niemand wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 6:54 am Venezuela abolished money a while back.

And I don't see an influx of people moving to Venezuela.

Mike

People just use the USD unoffically there, but you can't use the local currency in physical form.

EvanLM wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 3:34 pm

GeeR wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 12:25 pm https://www.infowars.com/posts/top-econ ... lockchain/

so the printing of money is uncontrollable . . . but . . .I thought that loans actually happen through the computer version of just electronic creditsends of money to cover bank loans without the actual printing . . . still no value . . .

so . . .how is bitcoins type of transactions gonna support a currency with no backing but the investors in it . . . hmmmm . . and what do we know about investors . . . I know that thesde transactions are too expensive for me and especially if I need to go through the exchange from one company to another in bitcoin or whatever . . . .

I really can't imagine that our fed control would ever give up the printing of money and the control that it offers them. . . i say hold on to those dollars

This will be centrally controlled by the folks who brought you the US Central Bank and Income Taxes. It will be a "Central Bank Digital Coin".

This gives them more control and more visibility.

Fred wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 11:29 pm Russia pegs Ruble to gold. That would make Russia's money the only currency on earth back by anything besides air. The price is a little low, but Russia can adjust the oil price to compensate.

US money still buys stuff if you have enough. The value goes down every single day, though. Food, tools, silver. Stock up.

That means war with Russia is more likely than not. That's what Khadafi talked about doing and he was dead within a couple of months after that. But Putin isn't Khadafi and being allied with China might stave things off for a while though.

ransomme wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 9:47 am

Fred wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 11:29 pm Russia pegs Ruble to gold. That would make Russia's money the only currency on earth back by anything besides air. The price is a little low, but Russia can adjust the oil price to compensate.

US money still buys stuff if you have enough. The value goes down every single day, though. Food, tools, silver. Stock up.

That means war with Russia is more likely than not. That's what Khadafi talked about doing and he was dead within a couple of months after that. But Putin isn't Khadafi and being allied with China might stave things off for a while though.

My opinion is that Khadafi was killed to secure control over water in North Africa. Gold-backed currency could have been a catalyst, but controlling water resources is ultimately more important. Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System (NSAS)

pho·to·syn·the·sis wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 6:33 pm

ransomme wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 9:47 am

Fred wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 11:29 pm Russia pegs Ruble to gold. That would make Russia's money the only currency on earth back by anything besides air. The price is a little low, but Russia can adjust the oil price to compensate.

US money still buys stuff if you have enough. The value goes down every single day, though. Food, tools, silver. Stock up.

That means war with Russia is more likely than not. That's what Khadafi talked about doing and he was dead within a couple of months after that. But Putin isn't Khadafi and being allied with China might stave things off for a while though.

My opinion is that Khadafi was killed to secure control over water in North Africa. Gold-backed currency could have been a catalyst, but controlling water resources is ultimately more important. Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System (NSAS)

In the early to mid 90s, Russia had three allies with warm water ports on the Mediterranean - Serbia/Yugoslavia, Libya and Syria. All of these countries have had revolutions/civil wars since then - the first one has had its access to the sea cut off by the independence of Montenegro; the second had a colour Revolution after Muslims in Benghazi were armed up; the third had an attempted colour Revolution and civil war but Russia intervened and reversed it.

Niemand wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 2:36 pm This has been discussed for decades... and gradually phased in.

It even appears in Star Trek the Next Generation back in the 1980s.

The difference? They actually exist now.

pho·to·syn·the·sis wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 6:33 pm

ransomme wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 9:47 am

Fred wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 11:29 pm Russia pegs Ruble to gold. That would make Russia's money the only currency on earth back by anything besides air. The price is a little low, but Russia can adjust the oil price to compensate.

US money still buys stuff if you have enough. The value goes down every single day, though. Food, tools, silver. Stock up.

That means war with Russia is more likely than not. That's what Khadafi talked about doing and he was dead within a couple of months after that. But Putin isn't Khadafi and being allied with China might stave things off for a while though.

My opinion is that Khadafi was killed to secure control over water in North Africa. Gold-backed currency could have been a catalyst, but controlling water resources is ultimately more important. Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System (NSAS)

If I recall correctly, he also was threatening to not use the US dollar for oil transactions in Libya ... which is a big no-no.

LDS Physician wrote: ↑April 7th, 2022, 6:03 am

Niemand wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 2:36 pm This has been discussed for decades... and gradually phased in.

It even appears in Star Trek the Next Generation back in the 1980s.

The difference? They actually exist now.

There are a few things on Star Trek TNG which one could consider predictive programming. I may do a thread on it sometime. I watched when it first came out here.

Niemand wrote: ↑April 7th, 2022, 6:06 am

LDS Physician wrote: ↑April 7th, 2022, 6:03 am

Niemand wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 2:36 pm This has been discussed for decades... and gradually phased in.

It even appears in Star Trek the Next Generation back in the 1980s.

The difference? They actually exist now.

There are a few things on Star Trek TNG which one could consider predictive programming. I may do a thread on it sometime. I watched when it first came out here.

Very good point.

Fred wrote: ↑April 5th, 2022, 4:43 pm I took my daughter up Mill Creek Canyon which is a state Park east of Salt Lake, and requires a fee. We went and ate a bucket of chicken and decided it was too cold so we came back. Payments are received when you leave. Cash is not accepted. They want to track every visitor. I asked what would happen if I did not have a card, but only real money? She would call the police.

I went to the temple the Mesa, AZ temple last week and had to rent a white shirt. I pulled a dollar bill out of my wallet and the sister clerk told me they don’t take cash anymore just credit cards. Looks like the church is falling in line. She wasn’t going to require payment if I didn’t have a card.

pho·to·syn·the·sis wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 6:33 pm

ransomme wrote: ↑April 6th, 2022, 9:47 am

Fred wrote: ↑April 4th, 2022, 11:29 pm Russia pegs Ruble to gold. That would make Russia's money the only currency on earth back by anything besides air. The price is a little low, but Russia can adjust the oil price to compensate.

US money still buys stuff if you have enough. The value goes down every single day, though. Food, tools, silver. Stock up.

That means war with Russia is more likely than not. That's what Khadafi talked about doing and he was dead within a couple of months after that. But Putin isn't Khadafi and being allied with China might stave things off for a while though.

My opinion is that Khadafi was killed to secure control over water in North Africa. Gold-backed currency could have been a catalyst, but controlling water resources is ultimately more important. Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System (NSAS)

It was more than a catalyst. It was mostly about Gold and Black Gold.

On top of talking about a common gold-backed currency for Africa (the Afro, j/k, a gold Dinar), he started talking about nationalizing the oil industry. Just like Iran in the 50's. Iran nationalized the oil the west overthrew Iran's democraticly elected government and installed the Shahs.

Lineman1012 wrote: ↑April 7th, 2022, 9:55 am

Fred wrote: ↑April 5th, 2022, 4:43 pm I took my daughter up Mill Creek Canyon which is a state Park east of Salt Lake, and requires a fee. We went and ate a bucket of chicken and decided it was too cold so we came back. Payments are received when you leave. Cash is not accepted. They want to track every visitor. I asked what would happen if I did not have a card, but only real money? She would call the police.

I went to the temple the Mesa, AZ temple last week and had to rent a white shirt. I pulled a dollar bill out of my wallet and the sister clerk told me they don’t take cash anymore just credit cards. Looks like the church is falling in line. She wasn’t going to require payment if I didn’t have a card.

They are talking about taking cash again, at least at our temple. But during Covid cash has been no bueno, despite the airborne virus not transmitting on surfaces.

covid and the beast alias fed reserve bank

this clip of a Barney Miller show 1981, has been passed around the web . . . it's interesting . . Trilateral Commission - (Clips) from Barney Miller - Se7 Ep8 (1981) . . google it or whatever you use . . .I don't know how to embed . . .

this is the type of brainwash that has been going on for many years . . . making the truth look silly . . kinda like the little red men of satan with horns . . makes him look harmless and silly . . .

also, at the meeting that the world leaders had in 2019 regarding what emergency response should be if pandemic occurs . . .then they really had newscasters as aprt of the drill and governors, mayors . . .actors, for these posts . . that said the exact things that we saw regarding the fake pandemic . . .they staged what the leaders and media would say at this meeting . . . or meetings . . .

then they must have sent the words out or the response suggestions out with no other responses or alternatives except the ones they designed . . . .it must have been real exciting for the leaders of our governments, the leaders of our religious organizations and hospitals and all to be thought of so highly by this great organization of elites . . . the flattery that they did on our fellow citizens to make them think that they were important enough to be a prt of the elite group by following these mandates and speaking the words tha they were told to speak . . .some of the training movies are now being ran across the web . . they sound exactly like what our media said and did, etc. . . .this is just spooky

also, I taught in liberal Wyoming 4 years ago . . .remediation type of reading program and writing . . .the selection of stories and questions and activities with the stories was just strange . . .I taught the kids to read anyway . . .but . . .

one series of stories was regarding disasters . . the only answer to the disaster was to leave . . .I found that real weird since there are many choices for survival in storms or disasters . . . no other choice was suggested with examples of how people survived . . .

another series of stories was about different families that had immigrated to the us . . they asll needed their own community with their own language and their own culture . . .no suggestions for fitting in and becoming american . . .

another series was about the freedom fighters through the generation . . . the stories were limited and I had a fit with some of the heros . . .Nelson Mandela was highlighted but they forgot to tell the story of how he and his armies slaughtered hundreds of white people . . .which put him in prison . .

one story told that the black slaves were freed by Harriet Tubman through the underground railroad . . no civil war . . but this suggests that illegal immigration should be seen as ok . . didn't mention that the black slaves could be sent back to their masters who owned them . . whatever . .

anyway this was the common core type of stories . . .all to prepare for the color revolution . . . .also very good brainwashing since they had to read the stories several times and then respond to the questions . . .I really, really hated those stories . . . . at the time, not hindsight . . I hated that program

we've been brainwashed . . .is it possible that the Fed Reserve Bank is the beast of the WEF and one of them gave power to the other . . . dragon and beast . . . although I don't know which is which . . .and thniking of this possibility . . .

cannot buy or sell . . isn't that what they are trying to do to putin and others . . .

the house of Israel or the people of the arabian penninsula . .. maybe children of Abraham . . . have fought this system for years and have refused to totally give in to it . . .everyone in the world is beholding to it for exchange among countries . . . what think ye . . .

you can buy anything in this world with money . . . . . .