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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... rld-crisis

I highly recommend the full article, but here are some highlights for the tl;dr crowd.

For years, the Ukrainian government has attacked an area in the Donbas region that has seceded from Ukraine and formed an independent, pro-Russian, republic. Just before Putin moved against Ukraine, Ukraianians increased the scale and scope of their attack.

Unlike what has just happened, the Ukrainian attack did not result in US sanctions on Ukraine. There were no meetings of the UN to condemn Ukrainian aggression. There was no talk of world war. On the contrary, Ukraine government used American weapons in its attack and asked America for more weapons to continue their attack. Let’s listen to Rick Rozoff again: “The Armed Forces of Ukraine used the American anti-tank missile system Javelin in the hostilities in Donbas.

Why the difference? We think that the US should not have shipped arms to Ukraine. Doing this made the situation worse. But for what we’re saying now, it doesn’t matter what you think of the policy. The key point is that because there was no international outcry and no sanctions, the matter remained a local fight. If brain dead Biden and his gang had reacted to the so-called Russian “invasion” in the same way, the matter would have remained a local quarrel. Russia and Ukraine would have made a deal and that would be that.

On what … should the foreign policy of the United States be based? Here is one answer and it is not excogitated in any professor’s study or supplied by political agitators. It is the doctrine formulated by George Washington, supplemented by James Monroe, and followed by the Government of the United States until near the end of the nineteenth century, when the frenzy for foreign adventurism burst upon the country. This doctrine is simple. Europe has a set of ‘primary interests’ which have little or no relation to us, and is constantly vexed by ‘ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice.’ The United States is a continental power separated from Europe by a wide ocean which, despite all changes in warfare, is still a powerful asset of defense. In the ordinary or regular vicissitudes of European politics the United States should not become implicated by any permanent ties. We should promote commerce, but force ‘nothing.’ We should steer clear of hates and loves. We should maintain correct and formal relations with all established governments without respect to their forms or their religions, whether Christian, Mohammedan, Shinto, or what have you.

When I can get to a computer I’ll link you to a site that analyzes this whole engineered conflict scene by scene. Young volunteers from across the globe are flooding to Ukraine to fight. They are lambs to slaughter for a global military-industrial complex.

buffalo_girl wrote: ↑March 27th, 2022, 6:51 pm When I can get to a computer I’ll link you to a site that analyzes this whole engineered conflict scene by scene. Young volunteers from across the globe are flooding to Ukraine to fight. They are lambs to slaughter for a global military-industrial complex.

No offense, but I'll let them take my place there.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/
March 25, 2022 analysis of Ukraine conflict manipulation toward a new world economic system

https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/ ... ruary-2022
Archived show from February 23, 2022 as EU, UK, & NATO pull the trigger...

Complete UKColumn News Archive covering global events which impacted & continue to impact ordinary people:
https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news-archive

Please, understand Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO. I hear US Senators speaking as though Russia's incursion was a 'land grab' into NATO territory. I'm coming to understand that the conflict is based on Russia's effort to protect its country along with Russian allied territories in eastern Ukraine from Western armed radical Ukraine forces being pumped up with volunteers from other countries. The conflict appears to be about provoking Russia in order to justify control of the entire region's rich resources.

https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/s ... n-program/
Above link to US Embassy announcement detailing bio-lab assistance by the Pentagon to 'counter' Russian chemical & gain of function weapons. Most of the over 20 labs were deployed near the Russian border. Those labs were some of the first Russian strikes on Ukrainian territory some of which received assistance from lab workers themselves. They were terrified of the potential outcome of releasing the very weapons they were developing in them.

https://dilyana.bg/documents-expose-us- ... d-georgia/
Extent of the experimentation on military & civilian populations using deadly gain of function pathogens

Documents expose US biological experiments on allied soldiers in Ukraine and Georgia

If any of you watched the March 25 UKColumn News report, you may want to follow up on today's coverage of 'Western' idiocy in conducting the Ukrainian 'war'.

Last week, two know Russian phone 'pranksters' pretending to be the Prime Minister of Ukraine made a direct call to the UK Secretary of Defense, Ben Wallace, and asked very specific questions about deployment of British supplied arms, weapons, and cooperation with 'the West' in bringing missile launching warships into the Black Sea. Apparently, the entire interview was recorded, but has since disappeared from MSM.

Pranked interview with UK Secretary of Defense: https://odysee.com/@RaymondTheBrave:5/F ... -Wallace:a

"Intelligence" revealed in the interview puts at risk British & global volunteer advisers & soldiers. Ben Wallace should be reprimanded and removed from his post! Who needs spies when all one need do is give those in charge a simple phone call?

The bungling of those perpetrating this outrage on Europe and the Russian Federation by manipulating events in the Ukraine confirms secret combination working together to bring about shared objectives. The US appears to be front and center in it all. Wonder how Hunter Biden's business interests play into this or even Hillary Clinton's business dealings with Russia for uranium from eastern Oregon? Sick, sick, sick....

Today's UK March 28 UKColumn New analysis covers the bio-lab controversy, the Azov Battalion's (neo-nazis) role in killing ethnic Russian in Eastern Ukraine, along with verified existence of the more than 25 US funded bio-labs in Ukraine.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/ ... march-2022

Original_Intent wrote: ↑March 27th, 2022, 2:04 pm https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... rld-crisis

I highly recommend the full article, but here are some highlights for the tl;dr crowd.

For years, the Ukrainian government has attacked an area in the Donbas region that has seceded from Ukraine and formed an independent, pro-Russian, republic. Just before Putin moved against Ukraine, Ukraianians increased the scale and scope of their attack.

Unlike what has just happened, the Ukrainian attack did not result in US sanctions on Ukraine. There were no meetings of the UN to condemn Ukrainian aggression. There was no talk of world war. On the contrary, Ukraine government used American weapons in its attack and asked America for more weapons to continue their attack. Let’s listen to Rick Rozoff again: “The Armed Forces of Ukraine used the American anti-tank missile system Javelin in the hostilities in Donbas.

Why the difference? We think that the US should not have shipped arms to Ukraine. Doing this made the situation worse. But for what we’re saying now, it doesn’t matter what you think of the policy. The key point is that because there was no international outcry and no sanctions, the matter remained a local fight. If brain dead Biden and his gang had reacted to the so-called Russian “invasion” in the same way, the matter would have remained a local quarrel. Russia and Ukraine would have made a deal and that would be that.

On what … should the foreign policy of the United States be based? Here is one answer and it is not excogitated in any professor’s study or supplied by political agitators. It is the doctrine formulated by George Washington, supplemented by James Monroe, and followed by the Government of the United States until near the end of the nineteenth century, when the frenzy for foreign adventurism burst upon the country. This doctrine is simple. Europe has a set of ‘primary interests’ which have little or no relation to us, and is constantly vexed by ‘ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice.’ The United States is a continental power separated from Europe by a wide ocean which, despite all changes in warfare, is still a powerful asset of defense. In the ordinary or regular vicissitudes of European politics the United States should not become implicated by any permanent ties. We should promote commerce, but force ‘nothing.’ We should steer clear of hates and loves. We should maintain correct and formal relations with all established governments without respect to their forms or their religions, whether Christian, Mohammedan, Shinto, or what have you.

This is a pretty dishonest article.

The author claims "Let the Russians and Ukrainians reach an agreement. That means no NATO for Ukraine and no US missiles on Russia’s borders? So what! End the war then end NATO."

Those are not the terms Russia has laid out. They want Ukraine to stay out of the EU and NATO, and for them to cede Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk. And that assumes they're even being honest about their demands, which is suspect to me.

The author claims "For years, the Ukrainian government has attacked an area in the Donbas region that has seceded from Ukraine and formed an independent, pro-Russian, republic."

The truth is that Russia has been arming separatists and stoking a civil war. Russia only recognized it as an independent republic three weeks ago. The idea that Ukraine had been fighting an independent republic for years is totally false.

The author claims "Unlike what has just happened, the Ukrainian attack did not result in US sanctions on Ukraine. There were no meetings of the UN to condemn Ukrainian aggression. "

Well of course not. There's nothing aggressive about fighting against insurgents being armed by a foreign power. This false equivalence to invading another country is insane.

The central claim is "America, under the “leadership” of brain-dead Biden and the forces controlling him, has done this and, by doing so, brought the world to the brink of disaster."

I don't get the Blame America First crowd. Tons of countries have been providing arms to Ukraine. I don't understand how the responsibility for what's happening uniquely false on the US, except that the author simply hates America and wants to blame it for anything.

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 28th, 2022, 1:09 pm... I don't understand how the responsibility for what's happening uniquely false on the US, except that the author simply hates America and wants to blame it for anything.

The history I’ve read shows the US as the main influence behind a lot like NATO, UN (CFR NYC/US based creation), monetary policies who to bomb out then “aid” (steal resources, oppress). I understand that other countries play parts, but they’re not the leading character like the US. Maybe it’s not as bad as it could be - how communist/Marxist ideas are permeating many countries including the US.

Many people are concerned about what this means for the future. Will the economic instability continue? And if so, where does it lead us? How do we protect ourselves? What can we learn from the past? Check this number

JohnnyL wrote: ↑March 27th, 2022, 7:10 pm

buffalo_girl wrote: ↑March 27th, 2022, 6:51 pm When I can get to a computer I’ll link you to a site that analyzes this whole engineered conflict scene by scene. Young volunteers from across the globe are flooding to Ukraine to fight. They are lambs to slaughter for a global military-industrial complex.

No offense, but I'll let them take my place there.

Yeah it's their funeral!