spiritMan wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 3:46 pm
Artaxerxes wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 3:45 pm
spiritMan wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 3:42 pm
Artaxerxes wrote: ↑April 3rd, 2022, 3:41 pm
Not alright, but not a sin. Sin is a very specific thing. It's not just things we don't like.
So tell me exactly what a sin is then?
You realize that sin literally means "missing the mark".
I don't know where you learned etymology, but I believe sin comes from sons, meaning guilt.
I always like James's definition. "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."
So someone can be extremely filthy in their mind and as long as they don't physically act it out in the world it is not sin?
these guys are probably hired by the church (they would never admit that though)
to try to help the church's image to try to show it's not as corrupt as it really is,
and would try to justify ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING that church leaders say and do.
Unfortunately - for them - they don't get very far in this forum -
where many members are not asleep - and aren't the blind following the blind.
The master has told us.
Jesus said
27 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
***** 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her
hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Matthew 5
so as far as same-sex attraction.
I don't care what leaders of the church say -
same-sex attraction and being homosexual IS a sin - and is wrong. period.
no matter how much you want to twist it and justify yourself
(like all those that are - do)
I've heard every excuse and justification in the book.
***** IT'S THE DESIRE IN YOUR HEART - NOT THE ACT.
you don't actually have to do it !
you've already done it, just to desire it. to want it . to think it. it's all in the mind.
to be attracted means you have a desire for it - in this case, for something that's wrong.
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and as I've said before
"simply put
You cannot use the word "attraction" for the same sex
and have it mean something that is not wrong.
When using the word "attraction" for people,
the word "attraction, has to be used, and what is
only between a man, and a woman.
When a righteous man and woman of God is looking
for an eternal companion to be married to in the temple,
they will have an attraction for each other.
God made man and woman to be together.
they have a natural attraction to one another.
God made this natural attraction for each other so a man
and a woman would come together and fulfill God's plan.
"Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth"
You can not say the same thing - a man for another man.
When two guys are friends, you really wouldn't use the word
attraction, and say that "I'm attracted to him" would you.
but just friendship, is not what we're really talking about here is it.
We are talking about a man having a physical attraction for another man - and that, is simply WRONG,
no matter how you want to twist and justify it.
"What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."
Matthew 19
"4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh.
What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."
Have you ever thought - why ? did Jesus make the distinction
between what the people thought was lust, and what it REALLY IS.
"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery"
the people thought that "adultery", was something that you actually
had to act on, and do.
but Jesus said:
" But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
it all starts in the mind, and your hearts desire.
Proverbs 23
"7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: "
"We will be judged according to our thoughts, words, deeds, and the desires of our hearts " (see Alma 12:14; 5:15; 41:3–6; D&C 137:9; Matthew 12:36–37; Revelation 20:12–14).
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what are some words that describe lust
and these other words ?
here I'll let google answer that for ya.
lust -
craving, desire, longing, sensuality.
"be consumed with desire for, find sexually attractive"
"very strong sexual desire"
attraction -
allure, appeal, attractiveness, desirability, interest, bait.
"ability to draw attention; something that draws attention"
"the action or power of evoking interest, pleasure, or liking for someone"
desire -
attraction, yearning, appetite, lust, craving, lasciviousness.
"want, longing"
