The church, gay marriage, and agenda 2030

[Mamabear]

The church will eventually cave to gay marriage. Why? Because they already signed on with the UNs agenda 2030.
Agenda 2030 wants gay marriage and lgbtq rights.
https://sdg.iisd.org/news/un-agencies-a ... hes-index/

https://lgbtq.hkspublications.org/2020/ ... ell-being/

There are other sources I’m sure.
If you really look closely at what is happening you can see it coming.
Gay missionaries, the leaders changing everything the last few years, gay men leading firesides and speaking at events, byu embracing it, no talks about how it’s a sin, being inclusive, etc.
Once the church signed on with the UN it was game over.
Now, are you really that surprised about their reaction to the “death plague” and the
v a x? You shouldn’t be.

[Oldemandalton]

The church will eventually cave to gay marriage.

Doubt it very much.

[Robin Hood]

I used to think they'll never go that far, but now I think they will. Pres. Nelson would do it now I believe, but there are probably some apostles who are uneasy, so he can't get it through. Oaks is a legal man, a lawyer and a judge, so I think he will push it through when he ascends to the throne on the basis that he will argue that it will be a legal requirement and we will have no choice.

[Mamabear]

The church will eventually cave to gay marriage.

Doubt it very much.

Please don’t take my word for it. They signed on the dotted line with agenda 2030.

[Refraction75]

Elder Ezra Taft Benson was really against the UN...

[762X545]

100% the church will cave to the sodomites. I have said it before and I will say it again. Most of the COB are effeminate weaklings. I have no doubt that a fair share have deep homosexual thoughts or even a few skeletons in their closets. None of them are strong, powerful or even remotely masculine men in any sense of the word. Even without directly saying it they are promoting the destruction of manhood with their teaching and their actions. These are supposed to be leaders of Gods church. Men like Moroni. Would you follow the leadership of any of the COB into battle?

[Rubicon]

Please don’t take my word for it. They signed on the dotted line with agenda 2030.

What does that mean, though? They sent a rep (Sister Eubank, et. al.) to some UN meetings? They are listed with a litany of churches? What are the practical implications/ramifications of that, though --- and what are the consequences if we buck the agenda in, say, 2025? Are the powers that be going to descend on us like hell hath no fury?

I haven't seen any evidence that "they signed on the dotted line," other than dissatisfaction that we've sent reps to some meetings.

[Mamabear]

Please don’t take my word for it. They signed on the dotted line with agenda 2030.

What does that mean, though? They sent a rep (Sister Eubank, et. al.) to some UN meetings? They are listed with a litany of churches? What are the practical implications/ramifications of that, though --- and what are the consequences if we buck the agenda in, say, 2025? Are the powers that be going to descend on us like hell hath no fury?

I haven't seen any evidence that "they signed on the dotted line," other than dissatisfaction that we've sent reps to some meetings.

Nope. It’s way more than that.

ANNUAL REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS INTER- AGENCY TASK FORCE ON ENGAGING FAITH-BASED ACTORS FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT
https://wedocs.unep.org/bitstream/handl ... sAllowed=y
Page 45 of document
Ask yourself, what is a “faith based actor?” Or who?

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2019/8/28/ ... ?_amp=true

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4X9p6s2Tl ... e=youtu.be

[Oldemandalton]

Please don’t take my word for it. They signed on the dotted line with agenda 2030.

What does that mean, though? They sent a rep (Sister Eubank, et. al.) to some UN meetings? They are listed with a litany of churches? What are the practical implications/ramifications of that, though --- and what are the consequences if we buck the agenda in, say, 2025? Are the powers that be going to descend on us like hell hath no fury?

I haven't seen any evidence that "they signed on the dotted line," other than dissatisfaction that we've sent reps to some meetings.

Nope. It’s way more than that.

ANNUAL REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS INTER- AGENCY TASK FORCE ON ENGAGING FAITH-BASED ACTORS FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT
https://wedocs.unep.org/bitstream/handl ... sAllowed=y
Page 45 of document
Ask yourself, what is a “faith based actor?” Or who?

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2019/8/28/ ... ?_amp=true

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4X9p6s2Tl ... e=youtu.be

[madvin]

Please don’t take my word for it. They signed on the dotted line with agenda 2030.

What does that mean, though? They sent a rep (Sister Eubank, et. al.) to some UN meetings? They are listed with a litany of churches? What are the practical implications/ramifications of that, though --- and what are the consequences if we buck the agenda in, say, 2025? Are the powers that be going to descend on us like hell hath no fury?

I haven't seen any evidence that "they signed on the dotted line," other than dissatisfaction that we've sent reps to some meetings.

Nope. It’s way more than that.

ANNUAL REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS INTER- AGENCY TASK FORCE ON ENGAGING FAITH-BASED ACTORS FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT
https://wedocs.unep.org/bitstream/handl ... sAllowed=y
Page 45 of document
Ask yourself, what is a “faith based actor?” Or who?

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2019/8/28/ ... ?_amp=true

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4X9p6s2Tl ... e=youtu.be

[Wolfwoman]

It's literally only a matter of time. Given a long enough time, it would eventually happen. Just think of the generation that is growing up right now. When they become the general authorities of the church, they would change that - no ifs, ands or buts! However, I think it could certainly happen much sooner than that too.

[CuriousThinker]

What % do you think would leave the church if they do? The younger generation is more secular and hardly go to church compared to 35+. It might make some happy but I think it would split apart the church and way more than if women got the priesthood, as in blessing sacrament or whatever. I told my husband if they do gay dealings then we would have to greatly pray if it is time to leave.

[Robin Hood]

What % do you think would leave the church if they do? The younger generation is more secular and hardly go to church compared to 35+. It might make some happy but I think it would split apart the church and way more than if women got the priesthood, as in blessing sacrament or whatever. I told my husband if they do gay dealings then we would have to greatly pray if it is time to leave.

Strangely enough, I think most TBM's would stay and celebrate the "revelation" and the "new understanding" that came with it.

[Mamabear]

What % do you think would leave the church if they do? The younger generation is more secular and hardly go to church compared to 35+. It might make some happy but I think it would split apart the church and way more than if women got the priesthood, as in blessing sacrament or whatever. I told my husband if they do gay dealings then we would have to greatly pray if it is time to leave.

I don’t know. I think a lot of people would stay because they would want to follow their leaders.
I think that being brave, taking a stand and leaving would prove too hard for some.

[Yeliab]

The church will eventually cave to gay marriage. Why? Because they already signed on with the UNs agenda 2030.
Agenda 2030 wants gay marriage and lgbtq rights.
https://sdg.iisd.org/news/un-agencies-a ... hes-index/

https://lgbtq.hkspublications.org/2020/ ... ell-being/

There are other sources I’m sure.
If you really look closely at what is happening you can see it coming.
Gay missionaries, the leaders changing everything the last few years, gay men leading firesides and speaking at events, byu embracing it, no talks about how it’s a sin, being inclusive, etc.
Once the church signed on with the UN it was game over.
Now, are you really that surprised about their reaction to the “death plague” and the
v a x? You shouldn’t be.

I believe we will see this start becoming a reality by the next General election in 2024

[Oldemandalton]

Reading these post I am amazed at the depth of the cynicism and antagonism from the backbiters and murmurer on LDSFF.

[Rubicon]

Nope. It’s way more than that.

ANNUAL REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS INTER- AGENCY TASK FORCE ON ENGAGING FAITH-BASED ACTORS FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT
https://wedocs.unep.org/bitstream/handl ... sAllowed=y
Page 45 of document
Ask yourself, what is a “faith based actor?” Or who?

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2019/8/28/ ... ?_amp=true

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4X9p6s2Tl ... e=youtu.be

Still not seeing it (and I read and watched the links).

I've known about the "Church of Latter day Saints" listing on page 44. That the Church attended and put its name (sort of) to it doesn't mean that we're beholden and duty/oath-bound to obey nefarious global forces. It simply means that the Church seeks for and cultivates PR (which I would rather it didn't). These conferences, manifestos, and signatures mean nothing. They accomplish nothing --- they are just a virtue signalling exercise for the types who love things like UN conferences.

Ditto with Bishop Causse's boilerplate about sustainability and inclusion. It's just UN conference claptrap. It doesn't mean (I don't believe) that we will be forced to do anything when the puppetmasters pull strings. The real question is: how will the Church react when PR pressure is put directly on the Church? That is worrisome, but I think that the Church is fully free to react in whatever way it wants --- i.e., how the Church acts will be directly related to how it decides to exercise its agency. It won't be forced to do things like embrace homosexuality.

[Rubicon]

Strangely enough, I think most TBM's would stay and celebrate the "revelation" and the "new understanding" that came with it.

I think the bigger problem will be people (like me) who won't leave the Church and the keys of authority, but will experience a big hit to commitment and enthusiasm. I think that will have a bigger effect on the Church than actual resignations --- or those who rejoice in a new "woke" direction. If the Church does go down the woke path, I don't think liberal wokesters have nearly the fervent commitment, enthusiasm, and love of the gospel/restoration that "old guard" conservative members have. The Church experience will go downhilll more because of that.

[InfoWarrior82]

Please don’t take my word for it. They signed on the dotted line with agenda 2030.

What does that mean, though? They sent a rep (Sister Eubank, et. al.) to some UN meetings? They are listed with a litany of churches? What are the practical implications/ramifications of that, though --- and what are the consequences if we buck the agenda in, say, 2025? Are the powers that be going to descend on us like hell hath no fury?

I haven't seen any evidence that "they signed on the dotted line," other than dissatisfaction that we've sent reps to some meetings.

Nope. It’s way more than that.

ANNUAL REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS INTER- AGENCY TASK FORCE ON ENGAGING FAITH-BASED ACTORS FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT
https://wedocs.unep.org/bitstream/handl ... sAllowed=y
Page 45 of document
Ask yourself, what is a “faith based actor?” Or who?

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2019/8/28/ ... ?_amp=true

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4X9p6s2Tl ... e=youtu.be

Why are you laughing? The fruit is right there in black and white. Did you not click the link to the official United Nations document? Did you not see the name of our church listed on page 44? Do you not know what Agenda 2030 is?

[JuneBug12000]

Reading these post I am amazed at the depth of the cynicism and antagonism from the backbiters and murmurer on LDSFF.

Maybe it is because this isn't just "what if" for most of us.

Family who support and claim to be LGBTQA.
Yes.

Friends whose kids discovered they were "gay" on their missions.
Yes. At least 2.

Present for TWO RS meetings taken over by LGBTQ.
Yes
1. The teacher had her former mission companion, inactive, Queer friend "teach" an entire lesson one Sunday. (Luckily the bishop apologized the next week and we had a lesson the the family from the Gospel Principles manual to make up for it. Of course, that bothered the teacher and some other younger RS members.)
2. A woman in RS asked a question about protecting her children from the LGBTQ activities that were happening. She was shouted down, multiple women stood up and moved toward her in a threatening manner. The meeting was ended on the spot, but no verbal offer of support for the woman who was attacked. Luckily, some of us moved toward her to protect her and comfort her. She was so afraid she never came back to RS, only sacrament meeting with her family.

Former "friend" who was kicked out of BYU for attempting to engage in sexual activity with an unreceptive roommate during a BYU sponsored performance group trip. (At least they kicked him out! But that fact that it happened. )
This was the same former "friend" who told me how gay people would signal they were gay, meet up and hold gay mix and mingles at BYU on BYU's dime. And that was like 20 years ago!
Yes.

Ward were bishop, YW leaders, RS President, and more were over the top "in love" with the LGBTQ kids. All praise, no corrections. Bishop even gave a "testimony" about special kids and being nice and accepting.
Yes.

Stake RS President encouraged all leadership to attend Gay Pride Fireside with Ben Schilaty. Pretended it was church sponsored and invited youth using the church's email contacts without their parents knowledge MULTIPLE times.
Yes.

Friend's dad who was branch president, public school teacher, etc. and abusing one of his sons for this whole life. No one knew until the kid was an adult. The dad though he should be given credit for only doing this to one of his sons, not all. He thought it showed self discipline.

Does this make you want to puke and cry yet? To rend your clothes, sit on the ground and put dirt on your head? It does me.

I could go on. And this is just me. Others have their own stories.

[Oldemandalton]

Why are you laughing? The fruit is right there in black and white. Do you not know what Agenda 2030 is?

Because it is funny how quick some members of the Church are so quick to believe the worst in people and their intensions.

Can prophets and apostles make bad decisions or mistakes? Yes!

"In 2015 the United Nations adopted what was called “The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.” It was described as “a shared blueprint for peace and prosperity for people and the planet, now and into the future.” The Agenda for Sustainable Development includes 17 goals to be achieved by the year 2030, such as no poverty, zero hunger, quality education, gender equality, clean water and sanitation, and decent work." Sustainable Societies, By Elder D. Todd Christofferson.

Elder D. Todd Christofferson is not an illuminati. Gravely misinformed yes! A Gadianton, no!

This does make me yearn for the days of Ezra Taft Benson, J. Reuben Clark, and David O. McKay!

There will soon be developments that will open the eyes of many of the left leaning members of the Church. Satan wants control of the world and will soon increase the opposition to religion. Persecutions from our government will increase and the prophet and apostles will have to make hard decisions. They will come to the realization that we are at at the close of the Times of the Gentiles when missionary work among the gentiles will soon end.

I differ from many of you who believe the worst, that the Church will totally go the way of the world. I disagree. God leads this Church. We have scripture and doctrine to guide us. It only points in one direction.

Nitpicking and seeking motes, evil intensions, will do you and those around you no good.

[Subcomandante]

Reading these post I am amazed at the depth of the cynicism and antagonism from the backbiters and murmurer on LDSFF.

Maybe it is because this isn't just "what if" for most of us.

Family who support and claim to be LGBTQA.
Yes.

Friends whose kids discovered they were "gay" on their missions.
Yes. At least 2.

Present for TWO RS meetings taken over by LGBTQ.
Yes
1. The teacher had her former mission companion, inactive, Queer friend "teach" an entire lesson one Sunday. (Luckily the bishop apologized the next week and we had a lesson the the family from the Gospel Principles manual to make up for it. Of course, that bothered the teacher and some other younger RS members.)
2. A woman in RS asked a question about protecting her children from the LGBTQ activities that were happening. She was shouted down, multiple women stood up and moved toward her in a threatening manner. The meeting was ended on the spot, but no verbal offer of support for the woman who was attacked. Luckily, some of us moved toward her to protect her and comfort her. She was so afraid she never came back to RS, only sacrament meeting with her family.

Former "friend" who was kicked out of BYU for attempting to engage in sexual activity with an unreceptive roommate during a BYU sponsored performance group trip. (At least they kicked him out! But that fact that it happened. )
This was the same former "friend" who told me how gay people would signal they were gay, meet up and hold gay mix and mingles at BYU on BYU's dime. And that was like 20 years ago!
Yes.

Ward were bishop, YW leaders, RS President, and more were over the top "in love" with the LGBTQ kids. All praise, no corrections. Bishop even gave a "testimony" about special kids and being nice and accepting.
Yes.

Stake RS President encouraged all leadership to attend Gay Pride Fireside with Ben Schilaty. Pretended it was church sponsored and invited youth using the church's email contacts without their parents knowledge MULTIPLE times.
Yes.

Friend's dad who was branch president, public school teacher, etc. and abusing one of his sons for this whole life. No one knew until the kid was an adult. The dad though he should be given credit for only doing this to one of his sons, not all. He thought it showed self discipline.

Does this make you want to puke and cry yet? To rend your clothes, sit on the ground and put dirt on your head? It does me.

I could go on. And this is just me. Others have their own stories.

Experiences at one ward out of nearly 30,000 is an extraordinarily small sample size (though I have heard of other units within the USA that have gotten quite woke).

My experiences in Mexico:

A father that flat out told me he would beat his son who confessed to him openly that he was gay, until he said he was straight.

The Sunday School teacher straight up saying that Sodom and Gomorrah was because of homosexuality and because of pride.

The Sunday School teacher straight up saying that BYU should go the way of Benemerito, that is, a complete disbandment of the university, after showing him one of the threads here.

Stake President mentioning off-the-cuff that he feels thankful for living in a country where he can still make the remarks he can make about homosexuality, and comparing that with the USA and Canada where that becomes increasingly problematic. Also noted a rumor that after Elder Packer had denied that people were born with same sex attraction, the Church faced a lawsuit unless they changed the words in the subsequent Liahona / Ensign.

Bishop telling me straight up: This is why we will be the new leaders of the Church (the Lamanites) and why you (referring to the Gentiles) will fall. Correction, are falling. We are stalwart in defending the truth. The Gentiles have abdicated that responsibility.

[JuneBug12000]

Why are you laughing? The fruit is right there in black and white. Do you not know what Agenda 2030 is?

Because it is funny how quick some members of the Church are so quick to believe the worst in people and their intensions.

Can prophets and apostles make bad decisions or mistakes? Yes!

"In 2015 the United Nations adopted what was called “The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.” It was described as “a shared blueprint for peace and prosperity for people and the planet, now and into the future.” The Agenda for Sustainable Development includes 17 goals to be achieved by the year 2030, such as no poverty, zero hunger, quality education, gender equality, clean water and sanitation, and decent work." Sustainable Societies, By Elder D. Todd Christofferson.

Elder D. Todd Christofferson is not an illuminati. Gravely misinformed yes! A Gadianton, no!

This does make me yearn for the days of Ezra Taft Benson, J. Reuben Clark, and David O. McKay!

There will soon be developments that will open the eyes of many of the left leaning members of the Church. Satan wants control of the world and will soon increase the opposition to religion. Persecutions from our government will increase and the prophet and apostles will have to make hard decisions. They will come to the realization that we are at at the close of the Times of the Gentiles when missionary work among the gentiles will soon end.

I differ from many of you who believe the worst, that the Church will totally go the way of the world. I disagree. God leads this Church. We have scripture and doctrine to guide us. It only points in one direction.

Nitpicking and seeking motes, evil intensions, will do you and those around you no good.

Neither will ignoring truth.

Did you not read my response to you?

[JuneBug12000]

Reading these post I am amazed at the depth of the cynicism and antagonism from the backbiters and murmurer on LDSFF.

Maybe it is because this isn't just "what if" for most of us.

Family who support and claim to be LGBTQA.
Yes.

Friends whose kids discovered they were "gay" on their missions.
Yes. At least 2.

Present for TWO RS meetings taken over by LGBTQ.
Yes
1. The teacher had her former mission companion, inactive, Queer friend "teach" an entire lesson one Sunday. (Luckily the bishop apologized the next week and we had a lesson the the family from the Gospel Principles manual to make up for it. Of course, that bothered the teacher and some other younger RS members.)
2. A woman in RS asked a question about protecting her children from the LGBTQ activities that were happening. She was shouted down, multiple women stood up and moved toward her in a threatening manner. The meeting was ended on the spot, but no verbal offer of support for the woman who was attacked. Luckily, some of us moved toward her to protect her and comfort her. She was so afraid she never came back to RS, only sacrament meeting with her family.

Former "friend" who was kicked out of BYU for attempting to engage in sexual activity with an unreceptive roommate during a BYU sponsored performance group trip. (At least they kicked him out! But that fact that it happened. )
This was the same former "friend" who told me how gay people would signal they were gay, meet up and hold gay mix and mingles at BYU on BYU's dime. And that was like 20 years ago!
Yes.

Ward were bishop, YW leaders, RS President, and more were over the top "in love" with the LGBTQ kids. All praise, no corrections. Bishop even gave a "testimony" about special kids and being nice and accepting.
Yes.

Stake RS President encouraged all leadership to attend Gay Pride Fireside with Ben Schilaty. Pretended it was church sponsored and invited youth using the church's email contacts without their parents knowledge MULTIPLE times.
Yes.

Friend's dad who was branch president, public school teacher, etc. and abusing one of his sons for this whole life. No one knew until the kid was an adult. The dad though he should be given credit for only doing this to one of his sons, not all. He thought it showed self discipline.

Does this make you want to puke and cry yet? To rend your clothes, sit on the ground and put dirt on your head? It does me.

I could go on. And this is just me. Others have their own stories.

Experiences at one ward out of nearly 30,000 is an extraordinarily small sample size (though I have heard of other units within the USA that have gotten quite woke).

My experiences in Mexico:

A father that flat out told me he would beat his son who confessed to him openly that he was gay, until he said he was straight.

The Sunday School teacher straight up saying that Sodom and Gomorrah was because of homosexuality and because of pride.

The Sunday School teacher straight up saying that BYU should go the way of Benemerito, that is, a complete disbandment of the university, after showing him one of the threads here.

Stake President mentioning off-the-cuff that he feels thankful for living in a country where he can still make the remarks he can make about homosexuality, and comparing that with the USA and Canada where that becomes increasingly problematic. Also noted a rumor that after Elder Packer had denied that people were born with same sex attraction, the Church faced a lawsuit unless they changed the words in the subsequent Liahona / Ensign.

Bishop telling me straight up: This is why we will be the new leaders of the Church (the Lamanites) and why you (referring to the Gentiles) will fall. Correction, are falling. We are stalwart in defending the truth. The Gentiles have abdicated that responsibility.

Six. Six different wards/branches from the east coast of the USA to the west coast of the USA and Mexico. .

I could add more if you wanted from Mexico.

[InfoWarrior82]

Why are you laughing? The fruit is right there in black and white. Do you not know what Agenda 2030 is?

Because it is funny how quick some members of the Church are so quick to believe the worst in people and their intensions.

Can prophets and apostles make bad decisions or mistakes? Yes!

"In 2015 the United Nations adopted what was called “The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.” It was described as “a shared blueprint for peace and prosperity for people and the planet, now and into the future.” The Agenda for Sustainable Development includes 17 goals to be achieved by the year 2030, such as no poverty, zero hunger, quality education, gender equality, clean water and sanitation, and decent work." Sustainable Societies, By Elder D. Todd Christofferson.

Elder D. Todd Christofferson is not an illuminati. Gravely misinformed yes! A Gadianton, no!

This does make me yearn for the days of Ezra Taft Benson, J. Reuben Clark, and David O. McKay!

There will soon be developments that will open the eyes of many of the left leaning members of the Church. Satan wants control of the world and will soon increase the opposition to religion. Persecutions from our government will increase and the prophet and apostles will have to make hard decisions. They will come to the realization that we are at at the close of the Times of the Gentiles when missionary work among the gentiles will soon end.

I differ from many of you who believe the worst, that the Church will totally go the way of the world. I disagree. God leads this Church. We have scripture and doctrine to guide us. It only points in one direction.

Nitpicking and seeking motes, evil intensions, will do you and those around you no good.

Oh, so you're not laughing now. Weird.

You are so naïve to think that the church leaders will one day in the future put their foot down and say "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"

They have already made their decision when they signed the name of their church into the covenant with death and hell. "Upon my House it will begin".

The only thing they are worried about right now is HOW to make it all happen in a convincing way.

Isaiah 28

15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves

17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.

18 ¶ And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.