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I found the article listed below. It's worth a read in its entirety, because this whole story has been played out before in microcosm. Here's a brief summary:
And here's the back story:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... ra/559967/

So many parallels I am left wondering how many test runs they've made on us before now, preparing us for mass injections. What's clear is they always seem to think they are doing God's work protecting us from risks.... by injecting us with risky substances and steamrolling the right to refuse. And the vets/doctors were in on it.

Quite an illuminating case study. What do you make of it?

Sounds eerily familiar to the original Mareks vaccine for chickens. Except in that one the birds all developed a super strain that was more deadly than the original disease. It killed them off yet the unvaccinated birds survived. I think it’s important to pay attention to these things.

Maroriginal1 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 7:07 am Sounds eerily familiar to the original Mareks vaccine for chickens. Except in that one the birds all developed a super strain that was more deadly than the original disease. It killed them off yet the unvaccinated birds survived. I think it’s important to pay attention to these things.

I get the sense that public health is just a cost / benefit analysis for govt officials and their corporate pals in Big Pharma. The only side effect they really measure with any interest is "death" - you could be lame, blind, brain damaged, whatever, and they'll just say "well at least you're not dead... which you would be if you got sick", even if the odds of death were .03%.

That's fine and all. Play that game, and may God have mercy on you. But I'd like to decide for myself, thank you kindly.

I am very selective about giving my animals shots. They are far and few between, for the reason being posted about. The vet slipped a fast one on me and gave my pup a standard routine of poison at her 1 year checkup…now she has seizures. The horse/dog industry is just as bad trying to push this garbage as the human industry unfortunately.

FoundMyEden wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 7:58 am I am very selective about giving my animals shots. They are far and few between, for the reason being posted about. The vet slipped a fast one on me and gave my pup a standard routine of poison at her 1 year checkup…now she has seizures. The horse/dog industry is just as bad trying to push this garbage as the human industry unfortunately.

Horses are one of the most over-vaccinated pets out there.

Maroriginal1 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 7:07 am Sounds eerily familiar to the original Mareks vaccine for chickens. Except in that one the birds all developed a super strain that was more deadly than the original disease. It killed them off yet the unvaccinated birds survived. I think it’s important to pay attention to these things.

It is my understanding that it is highly contagious and now chickens HAVE to have the vaccine - the only ones who don't have it are those that are born on small farms and don't vaccinate the chickens. In other words if you bought a baby chick, it had the vaccination. The vaccine made the disease worse and more contagious than it was before- it created a dependency on the pharma industry for that injection.

John Tavner wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 8:19 am The vaccine made the disease worse and more contagious than it was before- it created a dependency on the pharma industry for that injection.

Health Care as a subscription service was always one of those stretch goals for Pharma. For manufacturing, you've got planned obsolescence - have to replace darn near everything at least every 7 years.

Vaccines and their boosters are the "planned obsolescence" of the pharma world. "Damn the consequences, we need that revenue!"

Stay away from doctors, You live longer that way.

That's quite an old statement. I have used it many times. Particularly around here in Utah where medical malpractice seems to be rampant. Wildly common.

People are amazed when they hear how long my cats live. Some of them, I tell the truth. That it's because they don't go to the "vet".

And, get the government to mandate your product or service?? !!!! Why not??? What a fantastic idea!
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John Tavner wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 8:19 am

Maroriginal1 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 7:07 am Sounds eerily familiar to the original Mareks vaccine for chickens. Except in that one the birds all developed a super strain that was more deadly than the original disease. It killed them off yet the unvaccinated birds survived. I think it’s important to pay attention to these things.

It is my understanding that it is highly contagious and now chickens HAVE to have the vaccine - the only ones who don't have it are those that are born on small farms and don't vaccinate the chickens. In other words if you bought a baby chick, it had the vaccination. The vaccine made the disease worse and more contagious than it was before- it created a dependency on the pharma industry for that injection.

And now we eat those chickens that have had the injection. I wonder how much of the vax gets into each egg that is laid.

John Tavner wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 8:19 am

Maroriginal1 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 7:07 am Sounds eerily familiar to the original Mareks vaccine for chickens. Except in that one the birds all developed a super strain that was more deadly than the original disease. It killed them off yet the unvaccinated birds survived. I think it’s important to pay attention to these things.

It is my understanding that it is highly contagious and now chickens HAVE to have the vaccine - the only ones who don't have it are those that are born on small farms and don't vaccinate the chickens. In other words if you bought a baby chick, it had the vaccination. The vaccine made the disease worse and more contagious than it was before- it created a dependency on the pharma industry for that injection.

Merecks is a standard vaccine now for chickens (I raise some and asked the vet about it). The vaccine formula has gone through several revamps. It wasn’t believed that the original vaccine was causing the super strain and increased deaths. The Dutch thought to experiment and do a control group of non vaccinated chickens. The vaccinated did not fair well and developed a more violent form of the disease while the unvaccinated survived. It was the first proof of a “leaky” vaccine. One that caused more harm than it solved. This is a watered down article. But it’s an interesting rabbit hole to go down. It shows that the vaccine industry ignores outcomes once a product is profitable. Unfortunately chicken lives seem to matter more than humans on the matter https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/t ... -dangerous

John Tavner wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 8:17 am

FoundMyEden wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 7:58 am I am very selective about giving my animals shots. They are far and few between, for the reason being posted about. The vet slipped a fast one on me and gave my pup a standard routine of poison at her 1 year checkup…now she has seizures. The horse/dog industry is just as bad trying to push this garbage as the human industry unfortunately.

Horses are one of the most over-vaccinated pets out there.

Yes they are. I grew up on a farm that bred horses for hobby and show and we didn't vaxx any of them. I had never heard of horses getting cancer or any of these crazy diseases that they apparently have now. Now, I occasionally bring in older horses that have been disregarded for one reason or another and most, if not all, have been injected in their lifetime. I have seen tumors, cancer, and crazy inflammation that even the vet had no clue as to why. I had a pretty good guess. I wish people would stop doing this...it is causing so much unnecessary damage to these beautiful creatures that we have been given stewardship over, and we're screwing them up.

iWriteStuff wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 8:40 am

John Tavner wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 8:19 am The vaccine made the disease worse and more contagious than it was before- it created a dependency on the pharma industry for that injection.

Health Care as a subscription service was always one of those stretch goals for Pharma. For manufacturing, you've got planned obsolescence - have to replace darn near everything at least every 7 years.

Vaccines and their boosters are the "planned obsolescence" of the pharma world. "Damn the consequences, we need that revenue!"

I don't think it's about revenue as much as the power to cut people off. In seven years of being cut off, you won't have anything.

harakim wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 4:34 pm

iWriteStuff wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 8:40 am

John Tavner wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 8:19 am The vaccine made the disease worse and more contagious than it was before- it created a dependency on the pharma industry for that injection.

Health Care as a subscription service was always one of those stretch goals for Pharma. For manufacturing, you've got planned obsolescence - have to replace darn near everything at least every 7 years.

Vaccines and their boosters are the "planned obsolescence" of the pharma world. "Damn the consequences, we need that revenue!"

I don't think it's about revenue as much as the power to cut people off. In seven years of being cut off, you won't have anything.

Well, anything they could sell you that is

But true enough point. Constant consumption is the name of the game.

Wasn't the purpose of the horse shot to make sure that Ivermectin was a 100% cure which would enable the elite to remain unharmed? Isn't that why they didn't want the ivermectin word to get out during covid? When they introduce these pathogens they need to make sure they won't harm themselves in the process. Just kill the 95%.

iWriteStuff wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 6:40 am I found the article listed below. It's worth a read in its entirety, because this whole story has been played out before in microcosm. Here's a brief summary:

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And here's the back story:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... ra/559967/

So many parallels I am left wondering how many test runs they've made on us before now, preparing us for mass injections. What's clear is they always seem to think they are doing God's work protecting us from risks.... by injecting us with risky substances and steamrolling the right to refuse. And the vets/doctors were in on it.

Quite an illuminating case study. What do you make of it?

This already came up briefly just as an aside that was overlooked months and months ago in the railroad thread.

Both the CEO of phizer and the CEO of AstraZeneca are veterinarians.

Veterinarians play a big part in vaccine research and use.

Biden has said that everything is going to plan.....they probably did alot of testing and war gaming to get us to this very point....and we paid for it then...get to pay for it now and will be paying for it in the future....we are on the cusp of the NEW WORLD ORDER....

A human dry run.

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hyloglyph wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 9:10 pm Both the CEO of phizer and the CEO of AstraZeneca are veterinarians.

Veterinarians play a big part in vaccine research and use.

I don't see this as a great revelation. Obviously human medicine is a big factor in this, but animal medicine has a big market and many more variations. It's more complex to develop these things for multiple species rather than just the one... so we shouldn't be surprised to see this.

It does explain why they treat us like unthinking cattle though.

Niemand wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 4:56 am A human dry run.

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hyloglyph wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 9:10 pm Both the CEO of phizer and the CEO of AstraZeneca are veterinarians.

Veterinarians play a big part in vaccine research and use.

I don't see this as a great revelation. Obviously human medicine is a big factor in this, but animal medicine has a big market and many more variations. It's more complex to develop these things for multiple species rather than just the one... so we shouldn't be surprised to see this.

It does explain why they treat us like unthinking cattle though.

Huh? I don’t see it as a huge revelation either. It’s literally public information. That’s part of what I’m saying.