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But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

In order for the LDS leadership to "get it", someone will have to convince them that God is in charge. Right now, they believe the UN and WEF are in charge. If the church spent as much time bringing people to Christ as they do pointing people to disciples of satan, no LDS would wear a mask or get the jab, and God would bless us enormously. LDS would live long and prosper. But how do we convince RMN and Wendy that God has a purpose other than extracting money from people searching for truth?

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

Sadly, there have been NO defections in the Mormon hierarchy...ZERO, ZIP, NADA.

There have been NUMEROUS high level defections in the Catholic hierarchy including Archbishop Vigano and Father Edmund Meeks.

They have not defected from the church...just the obvious lies being promoted by the top leadership. They are loudly proclaiming the truth...which is in direct opposition to the Vatican narrative.

They are HERO'S in my book.

Mormon Inc. will fall hard when it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE that the jab is deadly...that day isn't far off. How do you walk it back??? YOU CAN'T!!!!!

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm "Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

Is it too much to ask for them not to tell us to inject ourselves with poison? Kind of a low bar...

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

Silly 50 N gaslighting

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?"

Did I say that?

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 11:03 pm

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?"

Did I say that?

Yeah

Blind faith in the corporate executives in Salt Lake.

On your knees before the great corporate executives, peasant!
dc

David13 wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 11:08 pm Blind faith in the corporate executives in Salt Lake.

On your knees before the great corporate executives, peasant!
dc

It's too bad there's only two options. Either we murmur that the brethren aren't saying the things we want to hear, or we worship them. That's the only options!

Jesus said
"He that is not with me is against me",
and THE CHURCH IS NOT WITH HIM - but against Him.

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 11:03 pm

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?"

Did I say that?

He's just a boring troll, sniping and disrupting, with nothing original to say. I have him on ignore. I suggest everyone does the same.

Fred wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:00 pm In order for the LDS leadership to "get it", someone will have to convince them that God is in charge. Right now, they believe the UN and WEF are in charge. If the church spent as much time bringing people to Christ as they do pointing people to disciples of satan, no LDS would wear a mask or get the jab, and God would bless us enormously. LDS would live long and prosper. But how do we convince RMN and Wendy that God has a purpose other than extracting money from people searching for truth?

well, they kinda of are in charge . . .God has given power to satan . . his great day . . .but not for long . . .notice I said God has given it . . . Satan has no power but what he is allowed

we are protected against the power of satan as a person, church and country if we live righteously . . . if we do not live righteously, then God removes his protection . . he does not need to directly punish us cuz there is plenty of evil on this earth to do it . .

he just removes his protection . . .

The Red Pill wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:37 pm

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

Sadly, there have been NO defections in the Mormon hierarchy...ZERO, ZIP, NADA.

There have been NUMEROUS high level defections in the Catholic hierarchy including Archbishop Vigano and Father Edmund Meeks.

They have not defected from the church...just the obvious lies being promoted by the top leadership. They are loudly proclaiming the truth...which is in direct opposition to the Vatican narrative.

They are HERO'S in my book.

Mormon Inc. will fall hard when it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE that the jab is deadly...that day isn't far off. How do you walk it back??? YOU CAN'T!!!!!

when the church falls hard then the whole world will fall hard . . . Isaiah says it will begin in the church . . meaning that the church is NOT exempt . . we are not treated any differently than the world as far as tribulations for our wickedness . .

so if you predict the church will fall, and you believe Isaiah, then watch for the whole world to fall . . . that is what you are predicting . . the whole world fall . . toatal destruction . . .won't matter what church or organization you belong to . .

won't matter if you disagree with the church either . . .or if you have apostatized . . . first church . . then the world . . .your prophecy

EvanLM wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 7:20 am

The Red Pill wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:37 pm

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

Sadly, there have been NO defections in the Mormon hierarchy...ZERO, ZIP, NADA.

There have been NUMEROUS high level defections in the Catholic hierarchy including Archbishop Vigano and Father Edmund Meeks.

They have not defected from the church...just the obvious lies being promoted by the top leadership. They are loudly proclaiming the truth...which is in direct opposition to the Vatican narrative.

They are HERO'S in my book.

Mormon Inc. will fall hard when it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE that the jab is deadly...that day isn't far off. How do you walk it back??? YOU CAN'T!!!!!

when the church falls hard then the whole world will fall hard . . . Isaiah says it will begin in the church . . meaning that the church is NOT exempt . . we are not treated any differently than the world as far as tribulations for our wickedness . .

so if you predict the church will fall, and you believe Isaiah, then watch for the whole world to fall . . . that is what you are predicting . . the whole world fall . . toatal destruction . . .won't matter what church or organization you belong to . .

I actually had D&C section 112 in mind, but Isaiah works as well:

Section 112 of the Doctrine and Covenants is directed specifically to Thomas Marsh, the first president of the Twelve, and through him to the Twelve; there is no indication that it takes on a broader audience. In the midst of this revelation the Lord prophesies of the time to come when:

"vengeance cometh speedily upon the inhabitants of the earth, a day of wrath, a day of burning, a day of desolation, of weeping, of mourning and of lamentation; and as a whirlwind it shall come upon all the face of the earth, saith the Lord.

And upon my house it shall begin, and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord;

First upon those among you, saith the Lord, who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house" (vv. 24-26).

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

That man sounds like what a real prophet of God would be saying right now.

Instead, in our church, we get a steady regurgitation of quotes from one another and quoting ancient scriptures of which they have no understanding. They are wholly incapable of quoting the words of Christ to them because Christ does not speak to them. Is it too much to ask for a prophet to produce the fruits of a prophet?

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:31 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

But if this colossal fraud has been supported and disseminated by the media, it must be recognized that national and international health institutions, governments, magistrates, law enforcement agencies and the Catholic Hierarchy itself all share responsibility for the disaster – each in its own sphere by actively supporting or failing to oppose the narrative – a disaster that has affected billions of people in their health, their property, the exercise of their individual rights and even their very lives.

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

That man sounds like what a real prophet of God would be saying right now.

Instead, in our church, we get a steady regurgitation of quotes from one another and quoting ancient scriptures of which they have no understanding. They are wholly incapable of quoting the words of Christ to them because Christ does not speak to them. Is it too much to ask for a prophet to produce the fruits of a prophet?

They do. They tell us to repent and to have faith in Christ. The fact that you like what this other guy says doesn't mean he sounds like a prophet. It means you agree with him. That's not what makes someone a prophet.

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:52 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:31 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

That man sounds like what a real prophet of God would be saying right now.

Instead, in our church, we get a steady regurgitation of quotes from one another and quoting ancient scriptures of which they have no understanding. They are wholly incapable of quoting the words of Christ to them because Christ does not speak to them. Is it too much to ask for a prophet to produce the fruits of a prophet?

They do. They tell us to repent and to have faith in Christ. The fact that you like what this other guy says doesn't mean he sounds like a prophet. It means you agree with him. That's not what makes someone a prophet.

At the time of Joseph's vision, nearly every Christian pastor taught the same thing. Yet God told Joseph that they were abominations because they drew near with words but not with their hearts.

So simply crying repentance isn't sufficient and never has been. How are our leaders today any different than the pastors at the time of Joseph? What evidence do we have that their hearts are aligned with God and not merely their words?

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:52 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:31 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm

ithink wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 7:23 pm

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index. ... to-the-u-s

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

That man sounds like what a real prophet of God would be saying right now.

Instead, in our church, we get a steady regurgitation of quotes from one another and quoting ancient scriptures of which they have no understanding. They are wholly incapable of quoting the words of Christ to them because Christ does not speak to them. Is it too much to ask for a prophet to produce the fruits of a prophet?

They do. They tell us to repent and to have faith in Christ. The fact that you like what this other guy says doesn't mean he sounds like a prophet. It means you agree with him. That's not what makes someone a prophet.

Literally anyone can do that. I can do that. You can do that. But that does not make us prophets because WE do not produce the fruits Christ spoke about. Why do our church leaders not have these as well? Their resumes are looking pretty weak compared to literally any prophet we read about in the scriptures.

So then, what are they? Are they a different breed of prophet? A mini-prophet? Is there somewhere I can read the words of Christ where He introduced this new kind of prophet?

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:39 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:52 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:31 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

That man sounds like what a real prophet of God would be saying right now.

Instead, in our church, we get a steady regurgitation of quotes from one another and quoting ancient scriptures of which they have no understanding. They are wholly incapable of quoting the words of Christ to them because Christ does not speak to them. Is it too much to ask for a prophet to produce the fruits of a prophet?

They do. They tell us to repent and to have faith in Christ. The fact that you like what this other guy says doesn't mean he sounds like a prophet. It means you agree with him. That's not what makes someone a prophet.

Literally anyone can do that. I can do that. You can do that. But that does not make us prophets because WE do not produce the fruits Christ spoke about. Why do our church leaders not have these as well? Their resumes are looking pretty weak compared to literally any prophet we read about in the scriptures.

So then, what are they? Are they a different breed of prophet? A mini-prophet? Is there somewhere I can read the words of Christ where He introduced this new kind of prophet?

Literally anyone can say the things that are pleasing to your ears, yet you're here fawning over him because you like what he says.

"Behold, I say unto you they are made known unto me by the Holy Spirit of God. Behold, I have fasted and prayed many days that I might know these things of myself. And now I do know of myself that they are true; for the Lord God hath made them manifest unto me by his Holy Spirit; and this is the spirit of revelation which is in me."

This is what I hear from them. That's what makes them prophets. Again, this thread is about people saying that they want to hear the Brethren say the same things Vigano say. Vigano doesn't claim to speak for God. He just says the things people on this forum agree with. That's not what we should be looking for in a messenger.

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:50 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:39 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:52 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:31 am


That man sounds like what a real prophet of God would be saying right now.

Instead, in our church, we get a steady regurgitation of quotes from one another and quoting ancient scriptures of which they have no understanding. They are wholly incapable of quoting the words of Christ to them because Christ does not speak to them. Is it too much to ask for a prophet to produce the fruits of a prophet?

They do. They tell us to repent and to have faith in Christ. The fact that you like what this other guy says doesn't mean he sounds like a prophet. It means you agree with him. That's not what makes someone a prophet.

Literally anyone can do that. I can do that. You can do that. But that does not make us prophets because WE do not produce the fruits Christ spoke about. Why do our church leaders not have these as well? Their resumes are looking pretty weak compared to literally any prophet we read about in the scriptures.

So then, what are they? Are they a different breed of prophet? A mini-prophet? Is there somewhere I can read the words of Christ where He introduced this new kind of prophet?

Literally anyone can say the things that are pleasing to your ears, yet you're here fawning over him because you like what he says.

"Behold, I say unto you they are made known unto me by the Holy Spirit of God. Behold, I have fasted and prayed many days that I might know these things of myself. And now I do know of myself that they are true; for the Lord God hath made them manifest unto me by his Holy Spirit; and this is the spirit of revelation which is in me."

This is what I hear from them. That's what makes them prophets. Again, this thread is about people saying that they want to hear the Brethren say the same things Vigano say. Vigano doesn't claim to speak for God. He just says the things people on this forum agree with. That's not what we should be looking for in a messenger.

Quoting well-known scripture does not make one a prophet of God. You know that. You're avoiding my question.

Where are the fruits of prophets in these men like unto the men in our scriptures? Why are they missing?

Serragon wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:26 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:52 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:31 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 20th, 2022, 9:41 pm

"Why can't God's messengers just say the things I already agree with?" is a perennial complaint and never a valid one.

That man sounds like what a real prophet of God would be saying right now.

Instead, in our church, we get a steady regurgitation of quotes from one another and quoting ancient scriptures of which they have no understanding. They are wholly incapable of quoting the words of Christ to them because Christ does not speak to them. Is it too much to ask for a prophet to produce the fruits of a prophet?

They do. They tell us to repent and to have faith in Christ. The fact that you like what this other guy says doesn't mean he sounds like a prophet. It means you agree with him. That's not what makes someone a prophet.

At the time of Joseph's vision, nearly every Christian pastor taught the same thing. Yet God told Joseph that they were abominations because they drew near with words but not with their hearts.

So simply crying repentance isn't sufficient and never has been. How are our leaders today any different than the pastors at the time of Joseph? What evidence do we have that their hearts are aligned with God and not merely their words?

They were not all teaching the same, and they were not all teaching repentance. Repentance isn't a major part of Calvinism, which was a huge part of Christianity back then.

Why did he say they were an abomination?
“they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

You can pray to know things, right? I think their actions clearly show that their lives are dedicated to Christ, but if that's an important question for you, you can just ask.

I always see them teaching the commandments of God, and not the commandments of men. I expect that that's what we're going to hear at conference soon, as always.

This letter is obviously the philosophies of men. I know people here like it, but I want to hear the commandments of God preached to me.

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:53 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:50 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:39 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 10:52 am

They do. They tell us to repent and to have faith in Christ. The fact that you like what this other guy says doesn't mean he sounds like a prophet. It means you agree with him. That's not what makes someone a prophet.

Literally anyone can do that. I can do that. You can do that. But that does not make us prophets because WE do not produce the fruits Christ spoke about. Why do our church leaders not have these as well? Their resumes are looking pretty weak compared to literally any prophet we read about in the scriptures.

So then, what are they? Are they a different breed of prophet? A mini-prophet? Is there somewhere I can read the words of Christ where He introduced this new kind of prophet?

Literally anyone can say the things that are pleasing to your ears, yet you're here fawning over him because you like what he says.

"Behold, I say unto you they are made known unto me by the Holy Spirit of God. Behold, I have fasted and prayed many days that I might know these things of myself. And now I do know of myself that they are true; for the Lord God hath made them manifest unto me by his Holy Spirit; and this is the spirit of revelation which is in me."

This is what I hear from them. That's what makes them prophets. Again, this thread is about people saying that they want to hear the Brethren say the same things Vigano say. Vigano doesn't claim to speak for God. He just says the things people on this forum agree with. That's not what we should be looking for in a messenger.

Quoting well-known scripture does not make one a prophet of God. You know that. You're avoiding my question.

Where are the fruits of prophets in these men like unto the men in our scriptures? Why are they missing?

You misunderstand my post. I'm saying that the manner in which the prophets speak now IS the norm, as demonstrated by that scripture. The way they speak now IS how prophets preached, most of the time, in the BoM. You're making up a standard that the scriptures don't support.

They do have the fruits of prophets. You should read the scripture again.

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:59 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:53 am

Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:50 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2022, 11:39 am

Literally anyone can do that. I can do that. You can do that. But that does not make us prophets because WE do not produce the fruits Christ spoke about. Why do our church leaders not have these as well? Their resumes are looking pretty weak compared to literally any prophet we read about in the scriptures.

So then, what are they? Are they a different breed of prophet? A mini-prophet? Is there somewhere I can read the words of Christ where He introduced this new kind of prophet?

Literally anyone can say the things that are pleasing to your ears, yet you're here fawning over him because you like what he says.

"Behold, I say unto you they are made known unto me by the Holy Spirit of God. Behold, I have fasted and prayed many days that I might know these things of myself. And now I do know of myself that they are true; for the Lord God hath made them manifest unto me by his Holy Spirit; and this is the spirit of revelation which is in me."

This is what I hear from them. That's what makes them prophets. Again, this thread is about people saying that they want to hear the Brethren say the same things Vigano say. Vigano doesn't claim to speak for God. He just says the things people on this forum agree with. That's not what we should be looking for in a messenger.

Quoting well-known scripture does not make one a prophet of God. You know that. You're avoiding my question.

Where are the fruits of prophets in these men like unto the men in our scriptures? Why are they missing?

You misunderstand my post. I'm saying that the manner in which the prophets speak now IS the norm, as demonstrated by that scripture. The way they speak now IS how prophets preached, most of the time, in the BoM. You're making up a standard that the scriptures don't support.

They do have the fruits of prophets. You should read the scripture again.

You misunderstand the quote by Alma the Younger, then. Alma didn't become a prophet simply by telling people that he felt the Holy Spirit. Again, literally anyone could do that. So, how do WE prevent ourselves from being deceived by people that merely claim this? Jesus Christ gave us the way to detect a true prophet of God from a false one. He said you shall know them by their fruits.

Alma the Younger was telling you it was by the power of God that he was able to witness and perform mighty miracles. Today, we have men that tell us it was by the power of God that they are indeed prophets, but without the ability to perform mighty miracles.

Alma's resume of prophetic fruits is replete with many examples. Where are similar examples we can observe in today's leaders?