Inside Church Headquarters (Councils) DVD...

[The Red Pill]

Couldn't help but notice in Deseret Book a television showing the DVD "Inside Church Headquarters, Councils"

It doesn't seem to be working so well lately with decisions such as:

1. "Safe and effective Godsend" deadly-jab
2. "Wise and thoughtful" government leaders
3. Literally partnering with the UN
4. Giving millions to UNICEF
5. Giving millions to NAACP
6. Rebuking those who questioned the 2020 election...by issuing statement that we need to stand by our "democratic principles" of government.

They say a camel is a race horse....designed by a committee. My experience with committees reinforces that statement.

Your thoughts????

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[Mamabear]

My thoughts are many organizations of Babylon also have meetings. It doesn’t matter what they’re called or where they’re done.

[lundbaek]

I think those troubling decisions were made to generate the "good will" of people who are in positions from which they could seriously hinder the operations of the Church.

[Lizzy60]

I think those troubling decisions were made to generate the "good will" of people who are in positions from which they could seriously hinder the operations of the Church.

And the price paid for that “good will”? The literal lives of faithful members, as well as unborn babies, and future children that will not be born to those sterilized by the jab.

Where is their faith??? God can’t protect His Church, so the leaders must kowtow to evil men in high places?

Makes me sick.

[Fred]

Don't forget their financial and word endorsement of BLM and MADD, both terrorist groups, and LGBQ+.

[EvanLM]

hmmmm my tax money goes to coverup the sins of our president and other government officials in produced media campaigns to make them look like they are governing with the best interest of the citizens of USA . . . . .

Isaiah claims that our government leaders and church leaders will reflect each other. . . .does this mean that my tithing money . . . . uh . . um . . .went into the production of this video ? . . . .

can councils encourage priestcraft? . . .

[madvin]

Couldn't help but notice in Deseret Book a television showing the DVD "Inside Church Headquarters, Councils"

It doesn't seem to be working so well lately with decisions such as:

1. "Safe and effective Godsend" deadly-jab
2. "Wise and thoughtful" government leaders
3. Literally partnering with the UN
4. Giving millions to UNICEF
5. Giving millions to NAACP
6. Rebuking those who questioned the 2020 election...by issuing statement that we need to stand by our "democratic principles" of government.

They say a camel is a race horse....designed by a committee. My experience with committees reinforces that statement.

Your thoughts????

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Didn't know about rebuking those that question the illegitimate election of 2020. Nor about standing by the "democratic principles" of government. Not that we are. We are supposed to be a republic. But even so, our principles apparently are not theirs. I suppose to them, that sounds like conspiracy, which they avoid at all costs. Goes back to at least President Hinckley.

All the other stuff can just make my head explode.

[BuriedTartaria]

The prophesying, seering and revelating at the office is surely not shown due to reasons of sacredness I'm guessing. Too bad it isn't made manifest in any other way for any of us to judge if those things actually occur. Flowery conference talks that are sympathizing to liberal and globalist trends, or vapid "when we read the words of our latter-day prophets, we feel good inside" drivel doesn't cut it for me.

[larsenb]

I think the methodology used to arrive at group decisions in the Quorum of Apostles and as described by members of the Q15, is a bit too conducive to 'group think' . . . . provided their decisions aren't fully ratified by the Spirit.

Which is to say, their need to come to a unified and decisive decision and to give the final decision over to one man, may undermine very cogent divergence of opinion that should not be ignored or glossed over. This would especially be true for subjects outside of the normal purview of religious considerations . . . such as whether or not to push an experimental, never before tried on human populations, so-called 'vaccine'.

[Say what?]

Thoughts: Sucks for us!!

[CuriousThinker]

“Information brings inspiration,” said Elder Dieter F. Uchtdorf of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. “You have to collect information and then you are in a position to receive revelation when you connect to the Spirit.”

I take that he means good information. That is why it is important to get truthful info, not a lot of the stuff they are being told in medical school and mainstream media.

[Refraction75]

Well Elder Dieter F. Uchtdorf with all his inspiration supports Biden as President. His political donation contributions with our hard earned tithing money sickens me. Can we through divine inspiration of God like Uchtdorf is privy to direct communication with really support Biden? Another thread shows how immoral his son is with a super young female child...is Biden a good father? Uchtdorf gave donations to a candidate that supports Abortion and Gay rights. I'm sure God is cool with that....I mean God is so loving right now....he just wants inclusivity in the church. Such quality inspiration!

So yeah sure....I believe he sits in counsel with his brotheren....directing the world to get the vaccine shot as "safe and effective". He sits in counsel with the brotheren to tell us to trust our "kind and thoughtful" government leaders.

He sits in council With RMN as a prophet seer and revelator and couldn't help to see as a group to know the Lords anger in this world is against.... Racism!!! But coincidence would have it this revelation from the prophet came AFTER the BLM movement. I am sure God is obsessed as we are over pigment color injustice. This is Gods number one most important topic of repentance to the entire world!

God is a loving God... he doesn't worry about trivial things like murdering babies, gay sex, child molestation abuse or gender fluidity. I'm sure none of this has any effect on spirit children coming to this earth...The Lord really just wants the people of God to mix in with this batch of crap and hold hands in inclusivity! Did they wash their hands before grabbing yours? Not a chance! Sister Eubanks made that real clear when she attended a BYU Womens conference and she called up a friend of hers who is Gay and said "her gay gender identity is eternal". God is super cool with that!

Im sure counsel groupthink helped Elder Stevenson go on a tour with the NAACP and call the book of mormon a racist book....Good thing we donated hard earned tithing money to that white hating pigment obsessed organization.

The good news is guess what? We will all get to meet Christ real soon. I am totally sure he is Super cool with what had been going on in these "inspired counsels"! I'm sure he is super cool with it all!!!
Not like the scriptures say anything about that!

These counsel are so inspired and divine and full of light....I'm sure you feel that way too!

[lundbaek]

I also think those donations by Church authorities to the election campaigns of people I would never vote for were made to generate the "good will" of people who are in positions from which they could seriously hinder the operations of the Church.

[tribrac]

I also think those donations by Church authorities to the election campaigns of people I would never vote for were made to generate the "good will" of people who are in positions from which they could seriously hinder the operations of the Church.

Ucdorfs "mistake" did seem very conteived and staged to me...

[Refraction75]

Uchtdorf mistake followed by Elder Oaks in the very next General Conference announced that you can be a morally spineless jellyfish and support any political candidate from one election to another and it is all sweet and justified by the Lord. How inspired that little piece of counsel was...it left me swearing at my tv screen right in the middle general conference right in front of my 9 year old and four year old. An obvious coverup for Uchtdorf donation mistake....where is the political neutrality now that you preach to the members? Too hard for you to follow your own counsel.... but those lay members they need to follow the political neutral guidelines. It helps the general membership coast into hell doctrinally speaking without a moral fight. I'm sure this is what we need as a moral body of God's anointed people.

[spiritMan]

The Church is Communist.

The word "council" translated into Russian is Soviet.

They are a bunch of Soviets.

[EvanLM]

I think the methodology used to arrive at group decisions in the Quorum of Apostles and as described by members of the Q15, is a bit too conducive to 'group think' . . . . provided their decisions aren't fully ratified by the Spirit.

Which is to say, their need to come to a unified and decisive decision and to give the final decision over to one man, may undermine very cogent divergence of opinion that should not be ignored or glossed over. This would especially be true for subjects outside of the normal purview of religious considerations . . . such as whether or not to push an experimental, never before tried on human populations, so-called 'vaccine'.

then what is that . . . we were all in agreement according to the spirit . . . or each person prays and we come to an agreement. . .thing ?

[larsenb]

I think the methodology used to arrive at group decisions in the Quorum of Apostles and as described by members of the Q15, is a bit too conducive to 'group think' . . . . provided their decisions aren't fully ratified by the Spirit.

Which is to say, their need to come to a unified and decisive decision and to give the final decision over to one man, may undermine very cogent divergence of opinion that should not be ignored or glossed over. This would especially be true for subjects outside of the normal purview of religious considerations . . . such as whether or not to push an experimental, never before tried on human populations, so-called 'vaccine'.

then what is that . . . we were all in agreement according to the spirit . . . or each person prays and we come to an agreement. . .thing ?

How about they get confirmation from the Spirit that a nuanced, multi-faceted decision or pronouncement would be best, not one where one-size-fits all. Why should that be off the table?

[OPMissionary]

Well Elder Dieter F. Uchtdorf with all his inspiration supports Biden as President. His political donation contributions with our hard earned tithing money sickens me. Can we through divine inspiration of God like Uchtdorf is privy to direct communication with really support Biden? Another thread shows how immoral his son is with a super young female child...is Biden a good father? Uchtdorf gave donations to a candidate that supports Abortion and Gay rights. I'm sure God is cool with that....I mean God is so loving right now....he just wants inclusivity in the church. Such quality inspiration!

So yeah sure....I believe he sits in counsel with his brotheren....directing the world to get the vaccine shot as "safe and effective". He sits in counsel with the brotheren to tell us to trust our "kind and thoughtful" government leaders.

He sits in council With RMN as a prophet seer and revelator and couldn't help to see as a group to know the Lords anger in this world is against.... Racism!!! But coincidence would have it this revelation from the prophet came AFTER the BLM movement. I am sure God is obsessed as we are over pigment color injustice. This is Gods number one most important topic of repentance to the entire world!

God is a loving God... he doesn't worry about trivial things like murdering babies, gay sex, child molestation abuse or gender fluidity. I'm sure none of this has any effect on spirit children coming to this earth...The Lord really just wants the people of God to mix in with this batch of crap and hold hands in inclusivity! Did they wash their hands before grabbing yours? Not a chance! Sister Eubanks made that real clear when she attended a BYU Womens conference and she called up a friend of hers who is Gay and said "her gay gender identity is eternal". God is super cool with that!

Im sure counsel groupthink helped Elder Stevenson go on a tour with the NAACP and call the book of mormon a racist book....Good thing we donated hard earned tithing money to that white hating pigment obsessed organization.

The good news is guess what? We will all get to meet Christ real soon. I am totally sure he is Super cool with what had been going on in these "inspired counsels"! I'm sure he is super cool with it all!!!
Not like the scriptures say anything about that!

These counsel are so inspired and divine and full of light....I'm sure you feel that way too!

Favorite post I've read on here

[JuneBug12000]

The Church is Communist.

The word "council" translated into Russian is Soviet.

They are a bunch of Soviets.

Oh my goodness! I just looked and this is true.

[Fred]

I also think those donations by Church authorities to the election campaigns of people I would never vote for were made to generate the "good will" of people who are in positions from which they could seriously hinder the operations of the Church.

This could be described as doing something known to be wrong and hoping something good comes of it.

[larsenb]

The Church is Communist.

The word "council" translated into Russian is Soviet.

They are a bunch of Soviets.

Oh my goodness! I just looked and this is true.

The way the European Union is organized, you could describe it as consisting of 'soviets', according to an article I read about it a few years ago. And the EU Congress/legislature is assigned topics to be voted on from the higher ups. They apparently don't initiate 'bills' that come from or are pushed by the people that voted for them.

[Refraction75]

I think the methodology used to arrive at group decisions in the Quorum of Apostles and as described by members of the Q15, is a bit too conducive to 'group think' . . . . provided their decisions aren't fully ratified by the Spirit.

Which is to say, their need to come to a unified and decisive decision and to give the final decision over to one man, may undermine very cogent divergence of opinion that should not be ignored or glossed over. This would especially be true for subjects outside of the normal purview of religious considerations . . . such as whether or not to push an experimental, never before tried on human populations, so-called 'vaccine'.

then what is that . . . we were all in agreement according to the spirit . . . or each person prays and we come to an agreement. . .thing ?

They have to do this system of group prayer because no one is talking directly face to face with the Savior....

[Subcomandante]

Couldn't help but notice in Deseret Book a television showing the DVD "Inside Church Headquarters, Councils"

It doesn't seem to be working so well lately with decisions such as:

1. "Safe and effective Godsend" deadly-jab
2. "Wise and thoughtful" government leaders
3. Literally partnering with the UN
4. Giving millions to UNICEF
5. Giving millions to NAACP
6. Rebuking those who questioned the 2020 election...by issuing statement that we need to stand by our "democratic principles" of government.

They say a camel is a race horse....designed by a committee. My experience with committees reinforces that statement.

Your thoughts????

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Committees are had in order for everyone to be able to receive revelation. It should NEVER be a top-down experience, but the environment that is there should be one where all present can receive inspiration and inspire others.
I give the Church leaders a pass on this because in March of 2020 the information that was coming out was VERY different than March of 2022, and it was heavily one-sided information. You already had governments closing down their countries in Asia and in Europe and Church functions were increasingly being suspended on a local basis, including chapel services and temple services. You had news from a church in Korea with thousands of attendees give the coronavirus to the population at large and that church was viciously attacked in that country. This was when the decision was made to shut down the temples worldwide and to make General Conference a completely virtual affair.

It was a good thing that the leaders had seen a few years in advance that we would be in this situation, so Come Follow Me was implemented as home-centered Church, because over the next few months to couple of years, this would be the only permitted set-up for Church services. Now, we can see that the leaders were exaggerated in some or many of the protocols that have been implemented in light of what we know now in 2022. But if they tried doing the things today back in 2020, you would have the Ghana Freeze multiplied by 100.

The Church partners with different organizations that would otherwise have objectionable standards and they have been doing so for decades. When the Indonesian tsunami happened 18 years ago, the Church partnered with an Islamic relief agency to send food and supplies, and even Qu'rans, to those that had been affected by the tidal wave. Why wouldn't they send Books of Mormon? Because first you need to gain good will.

Same can be said about the UN and its satellite agencies and NAACP. You gain good will and you also take advantage of organizations that have a wider umbrella than the Church has to get things done. The Church is not recognized in a place like Yemen, Syria, or Iraq, yet thanks to its association with the UN, is able to get humanitarian work done in those countries. I get it, the UN is a sinister organization, but is there anyone else that the Church can work through legally that has a better framework (and better overall mission?) than the UN? Not only would I be interested in hearing this, but also I know the Brethren would be REALLY interested in hearing about this.

I don't think the Church really questioned those that questioned the 2020 election narrative. I still question it, simply because the numbers I have done confirm that fraud was done in a couple of states (specifically Georgia and Arizona) and the results in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania merit extra attention due to very suspicious behavior. What they DID question was those that went into the Capitol building to protest the measures taking place within, the certifying of the electoral count. What the Church meant was let's not try to change the results by violence, but by letting the democratic institutions and the courts work things out based off of the evidence collected.

You had Sister Eubank say this about the UN:

“It’s important for the Church to have these relationships, because we’re a multilateral organization; we work in multiple countries, multiple political systems, multiple cultures, and the United Nations does as well...When multiple countries are involved, you have to work with the United Nations. So it’s good for us and a sign of the maturity of the organization that Latter-day Saint Charities and the United Nations have this relationship.”

[AtevoProst]

The Council of Fifty was kind of an awesome council. I’m a fan of that one.

I think what matters most is if a council is filled with righteous, humble servants of God or not. And if they are receiving revelation from our God as opposed to “someone else.”

There are perversions of every true principle. That’s kinda how Satan rolls.

www.josephsmithpapers.org/topic/council-of-fifty