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Excellent video!

Trump ushered in the jab, at warp speed. He is not a friend of freedom.

Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑March 16th, 2022, 8:38 am Trump ushered in the jab, at warp speed. He is not a friend of freedom.

Umm, he was not mandating nor threatening livelihoods and economic meltdown for the jabbetyvaxx. He was not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, AND he did have Fucci as a key advisor for a while. By the time, he realized what fucci was and is, Trump's tenure as POTUS was tentative at best, and he knew it.

Yeliab wrote: ↑March 16th, 2022, 8:53 am

Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑March 16th, 2022, 8:38 am Trump ushered in the jab, at warp speed. He is not a friend of freedom.

Umm, he was not mandating nor threatening livelihoods and economic meltdown for the jabbetyvaxx. He was not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, AND he did have Fucci as a key advisor for a while. By the time, he realized what fucci was and is, Trump's tenure as POTUS was tentative at best, and he knew it.

He is a marionette. Sure, he said some nice things, did some nice things, still part of the gang.

Oh, and "Fucci"... lol, got a big laugh outta that spelling.

...A few signs that Trump isn't really who he was portrayed to be...

Trump belongs to the same rich and famous club as the Clinton's and Obama. Being the democrat he was, he was friends with the Clinton's, supported them, donated $100,000 to the Clinton foundation, and said during a debate that Hilary had to come to his wedding, because he gave to her Their animosity was all an act.
And here's an article describing his ties to our government, even back in the 80's, where he was portrayed as a peace negotiator (remember Israel?) and was preaching the idea that we need to work with Russia to get rid of all nuclear weapons.

https://www.topic.com/trump-and-the-dove

(quoting Trump in 1985)
"Butkus was aware of Trump’s interest in what he called “The Subject”—i.e., the nuclear-arms race and the urgent need for a deal-maker such as himself to (literally) save the world from surefire annihilation....
Rosenbaum met Trump in his gold-mirrored office and they proceeded to the then-chic hangout 21 Club, where Trump proceeded to—initially furtively, and then loudly—tell him his plan to tackle The Subject. The way to solve the threat of nuclear war, Trump reasoned, was to team up with the Soviets to pressure all other nuclear powers to give up the bomb. France, for some reason, was a focus of Trump's negotiation strategy.

What Trump lacked in, say, military experience or scientific knowledge of nuclear weapons was made up for by, in his mind, two sources of information: his uncle, who worked in a radiation lab, and one of his pilots, who used to fly for Muammar el-Qaddafi. And he said that if his famed deal-making skills didn’t convince everyone else to get rid of their nukes, then, “I guess the easy thing would be to say you go in and clean it out.”

Video about this article:

Here's the link to the original 1985 interview, with some commentary at the beginning:
https://dumplord.com/2020/06/11/novembe ... rosenbaum/


So what is the deal Trump thinks can be done? What is the Trump Plan?

It’s a deal with the Soviets. We approach them on this basis: We both recognize the nonproliferation treaty’s not working, that half a dozen countries are on the brink of getting a bomb. Which can only cause trouble for the two of us. The deterrence of mutual assured destruction that prevents the United States and the USSR from nuking each other won’t work on the level of an India-Pakistan nuclear exchange. Or a madman dictator with a briefcase-bomb team. The only answer is for the Big Two to make a deal now to step in and prevent the next generation of nations about to go nuclear from doing so. By whatever means necessary.

“Most of those [pre-nuclear] countries are in one form or another dominated by the U.S. and the Soviet Union,” Trump says. “Between those two nations you have the power to dominate any of those countries. So we should use our power of economic retaliation and they use their powers of retaliation and between the two of us we will prevent the problem from happening. It would have been better having done something five years ago,” he says. “But I believe even a country such as Pakistan would have to do something now. Five years from now they’ll laugh.”

“You think Pakistan would just fold? We wouldn’t have to offer them anything in return?”

“Maybe we should offer them something. I’m saying you start off as nicely as possible. You apply as much pressure as necessary until you achieve the goal. You start off telling them, ‘Let’s get rid of it.’ If that doesn’t work you then start cutting off aid. And more aid and then more. You do whatever is necessary so these people will have riots in the street, so they can’t get water. So they can’t get Band-Aids, so they can’t get food. Because that’s the only thing that’s going to do it—the people, the riots.”

“But what about the French?” I ask Trump. “They—”

“I’d come down on them so hard,” he says. “Because I think they’ve been the worst example of—”

“But they already have the bomb. Do you think they’ll give it up?”

“Well, I tell you if they didn’t give it up—”

“Look, they blew up the Greenpeace ship—”

“They’ve got the bomb, but they don’t have it now with the delivery capability they will have in five years. I f they didn’t give it up—and I don’t mean reduce it, and I don’t mean stop, because stopping doesn’t mean anything. I mean get it out. If they didn’t, I would bring sanctions against that country that would be so strong, so unbelievable… ”