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Jashon wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 5:17 pm More people immunized. Gimme a break.

crabman wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 5:12 pm "Now that more people are immunized, we are pleased to announce..."

sigh....
Immunization has literally nothing to do
with it. The virus has run its natural course, just like every other cold in history

Serragon wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 6:39 pm The immunization levels are virtually unchanged over the last few months. Everyone who was going to get vaccinated did it months ago.

All temple workers were already vaccinated. Why would the vaccination status of the patrons matter?

Since you can still catch the virus when you have been vaccinated, why would you now remove the mask requirement when you previously stated it was left in place because a high percentage of temple workers were at high risk for serious complications.

Clearly this is not the reason. It is simply a way of trying to justify their idiotic, inconsistent rules while hoping no one digs too deep and notices the truth.

It is all propaganda all the time. Our leaders have been wrong at every step regarding COVID. They have relied on bureaucrats and socialists as their sources of truth instead of the actual data. And it does not appear they have learned any lessons from these mistakes. It appears that they think they got it right.

I think we will get a large helping of back-patting come General Conference with regards to COVID and the temples opening back up. We will be told that this is evidence of President Nelson's prophetic mantle and how blessed we are as a people to have a prophet to guide us while all those other poor Christians were left to their own devices. God has answered our prayers and the temples can now be visited maskless! And to those whose faith resides in the institution, this is exactly how it will be received.

Cruiserdude wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 6:48 pm

Serragon wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 6:39 pm The immunization levels are virtually unchanged over the last few months. Everyone who was going to get vaccinated did it months ago.

All temple workers were already vaccinated. Why would the vaccination status of the patrons matter?

Since you can still catch the virus when you have been vaccinated, why would you now remove the mask requirement when you previously stated it was left in place because a high percentage of temple workers were at high risk for serious complications.

Clearly this is not the reason. It is simply a way of trying to justify their idiotic, inconsistent rules while hoping no one digs too deep and notices the truth.

It is all propaganda all the time. Our leaders have been wrong at every step regarding COVID. They have relied on bureaucrats and socialists as their sources of truth instead of the actual data. And it does not appear they have learned any lessons from these mistakes. It appears that they think they got it right.

I think we will get a large helping of back-patting come General Conference with regards to COVID and the temples opening back up. We will be told that this is evidence of President Nelson's prophetic mantle and how blessed we are as a people to have a prophet to guide us while all those other poor Christians were left to their own devices. God has answered our prayers and the temples can now be visited maskless! And to those whose faith resides in the institution, this is exactly how it will be received.

Can I get a hallelujah?!

Moroni104 wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 6:19 pm Immunize means to render immune. This can be done through 1) having a strong immune system to begin with, 2) having had the virus and building up immunity, or 3) theoretically.... through vaccines.

They don't actually say vaccinated.

Serragon wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 6:51 pm

Cruiserdude wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 6:48 pm

Serragon wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 6:39 pm The immunization levels are virtually unchanged over the last few months. Everyone who was going to get vaccinated did it months ago.

All temple workers were already vaccinated. Why would the vaccination status of the patrons matter?

Since you can still catch the virus when you have been vaccinated, why would you now remove the mask requirement when you previously stated it was left in place because a high percentage of temple workers were at high risk for serious complications.

Clearly this is not the reason. It is simply a way of trying to justify their idiotic, inconsistent rules while hoping no one digs too deep and notices the truth.

It is all propaganda all the time. Our leaders have been wrong at every step regarding COVID. They have relied on bureaucrats and socialists as their sources of truth instead of the actual data. And it does not appear they have learned any lessons from these mistakes. It appears that they think they got it right.

I think we will get a large helping of back-patting come General Conference with regards to COVID and the temples opening back up. We will be told that this is evidence of President Nelson's prophetic mantle and how blessed we are as a people to have a prophet to guide us while all those other poor Christians were left to their own devices. God has answered our prayers and the temples can now be visited maskless! And to those whose faith resides in the institution, this is exactly how it will be received.

Can I get a hallelujah?!

I have heard rumors that there are actually people out there (including my wife) that find this type of sound enjoyable. Thankfully, I listened to it myself so I know that can't possibly be true.

Serragon wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 6:39 pm The immunization levels are virtually unchanged over the last few months. Everyone who was going to get vaccinated did it months ago.

All temple workers were already vaccinated. Why would the vaccination status of the patrons matter?

Since you can still catch the virus when you have been vaccinated, why would you now remove the mask requirement when you previously stated it was left in place because a high percentage of temple workers were at high risk for serious complications.

Clearly this is not the reason. It is simply a way of trying to justify their idiotic, inconsistent rules while hoping no one digs too deep and notices the truth.

It is all propaganda all the time. Our leaders have been wrong at every step regarding COVID. They have relied on bureaucrats and socialists as their sources of truth instead of the actual data. And it does not appear they have learned any lessons from these mistakes. It appears that they think they got it right.

I think we will get a large helping of back-patting come General Conference with regards to COVID and the temples opening back up. We will be told that this is evidence of President Nelson's prophetic mantle and how blessed we are as a people to have a prophet to guide us while all those other poor Christians were left to their own devices. God has answered our prayers and the temples can now be visited maskless! And to those whose faith resides in the institution, this is exactly how it will be received.

Moroni104 wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 6:19 pm Immunize means to render immune. This can be done through 1) having a strong immune system to begin with, 2) having had the virus and building up immunity, or 3) theoretically.... through vaccines.

They don't actually say vaccinated.

JLHPROF wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 4:24 pm https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -operation

"We are eager to return the temples to full operation as soon as possible. Now that more people are immunized, we are pleased to announce that temples throughout the world will gradually return to more normal operations, including the elimination of face masks and capacity restrictions."

I wonder if that means putting the ordinances back to pre-Covid format. Probably not.

Subcomandante wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 8:29 pm

JLHPROF wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 4:24 pm https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -operation

"We are eager to return the temples to full operation as soon as possible. Now that more people are immunized, we are pleased to announce that temples throughout the world will gradually return to more normal operations, including the elimination of face masks and capacity restrictions."

I wonder if that means putting the ordinances back to pre-Covid format. Probably not.

Immunized doesn't necessarily mean vaccinated. Though many will take it for that.

JLHPROF wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 4:24 pm https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -operation

"We are eager to return the temples to full operation as soon as possible. Now that more people are immunized, we are pleased to announce that temples throughout the world will gradually return to more normal operations, including the elimination of face masks and capacity restrictions."

I wonder if that means putting the ordinances back to pre-Covid format. Probably not.

EvanLM wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 7:05 pm the temple attendance and numbers of ordinances performed is in the gutter . . . down, down, down, . . . and yes, the brethren do believe in numbers . . .

silverado wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 9:10 pm

Subcomandante wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 8:29 pm

JLHPROF wrote: ↑March 15th, 2022, 4:24 pm https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -operation

"We are eager to return the temples to full operation as soon as possible. Now that more people are immunized, we are pleased to announce that temples throughout the world will gradually return to more normal operations, including the elimination of face masks and capacity restrictions."

I wonder if that means putting the ordinances back to pre-Covid format. Probably not.

Immunized doesn't necessarily mean vaccinated. Though many will take it for that.

Yes they will! The January 19, 2021 news release from the Church says, 'The Church has helped immunize nearly 117 million people since 2002' (by vaccine or by exposing them to disease so they could get immunized that way?) and 'The Church urges (people) to be good global citizens and help quell the pandemic by safeguarding themselves and others through immunization.' (through vaccine or through getting and recovering from covid?) and '"We urge members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to protect their own children through immunization". the first Presidency said in 1978.' (Through vaccine or by taking them to a chicken pox or measles party etc, so they get natural immunity?)

Serragon wrote: ↑March 16th, 2022, 2:50 am They are simply pretending what they required made sense and was effective.