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Thanks to the Google-based search function on this forum 😒 I can't find them, but I was wondering if anyone can get me the total annual death figures for the USA, please. They've been posted on here before. If anyone can get these for me,.I'd be very grateful.

Ideally, I'd be looking for total annual US deaths for year by year rom at least 2015 to the end of 2020, so that I can show the trends...

Note I am not looking for Covid figures, just the general ones. The 2020 figures do not show the supposed hundreds of thousands of extra dead that one would expect from the news, and the claims that the virus was raging through the population at the time. In fact, while they show a small increase of tens of thousands, which may sound dramatic but is in line with the rises in '18 and '19.

Any help please. Also needs proper (written not linked) refs so I can put this info on a Youtube comment please.

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Niemand wrote: March 12th, 2022, 2:03 am Thanks to the Google-based search function on this forum 😒 I can't find them, but I was wondering if anyone can get me the total annual death figures for the USA, please. They've been posted on here before. If anyone can get these for me,.I'd be very grateful.

Ideally, I'd be looking for total annual US deaths for year by year rom at least 2015 to the end of 2020, so that I can show the trends...

Note I am not looking for Covid figures, just the general ones. The 2020 figures do not show the supposed hundreds of thousands of extra dead that one would expect from the news, and the claims that the virus was raging through the population at the time. In fact, while they show a small increase of tens of thousands, which may sound dramatic but is in line with the rises in '18 and '19.

Any help please. Also needs proper (written not linked) refs so I can put this info on a Youtube comment please.
Keep in mind population increase. The raw figures may show a slight upward trend, but when adjusted for population growth, may tell a slightly different story.

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Robin Hood wrote: March 12th, 2022, 3:58 am
Niemand wrote: March 12th, 2022, 2:03 am Thanks to the Google-based search function on this forum 😒 I can't find them, but I was wondering if anyone can get me the total annual death figures for the USA, please. They've been posted on here before. If anyone can get these for me,.I'd be very grateful.

Ideally, I'd be looking for total annual US deaths for year by year rom at least 2015 to the end of 2020, so that I can show the trends...

Note I am not looking for Covid figures, just the general ones. The 2020 figures do not show the supposed hundreds of thousands of extra dead that one would expect from the news, and the claims that the virus was raging through the population at the time. In fact, while they show a small increase of tens of thousands, which may sound dramatic but is in line with the rises in '18 and '19.

Any help please. Also needs proper (written not linked) refs so I can put this info on a Youtube comment please.
Keep in mind population increase. The raw figures may show a slight upward trend, but when adjusted for population growth, may tell a slightly different story.
Very true. I'm looking to keep it to raw and simple data though to keep it brief, and disprove the idea of vast numbers of deaths in the USA from Covid that the press keeps coming out with. He has tried to counter this with "the lockdown reduced other deaths" (which isn't really true re car accidents or suicides in the States.)

I should probably go through the various UK figures sometime. But with caveats - London's population tends not to be native to that city now and has increased a lot, so is often on the younger side, Scotland's tends towards the elderly, especially out in the islands... but actually even in these parts, places Edinburgh or Aberdeen have younger populations than some of the towns in the Borders or Highlands maybe thirty miles from them. Some places have a lot of deaths related to work and diet.

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https://www.prb.org/usdata/indicator/deaths/chart/
https://usafacts.org/articles/covid-exc ... uses-2021/

The data is there, 400,000 more died than average in 2020, 500,000 more in 2021.

14% increase in death rate……..(did I the math in my head, might be off a point….

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Using the numbers provided in the links above, and using a 19-yr max average of a 0.94% death increase per year, which approximates the population increase per year plus any upticks in chronic disease mortality, we get 474k deaths above average in 2020 and 541k deaths above average in 2021.

In 2021, however, the population increase was above average, because of heavy Biden-encouraged illegal immigration.

If we estimate that there might have been a 2.4% death increase for 2021 without Covid, which is the second highest year-over-year death increase since 2001, the one in 2017 (3.3% was the highest yoy death increase, the one in 2015), then we get a lower number of deaths above average in 2021. We get 498k.

Either way, if we assign the increased death numbers in 2020 and 2021 to Covid, then we still get the result that 99.85% of the US population is not dying from Covid per year (using US population of 335m).
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Jashon wrote: March 12th, 2022, 7:56 am Using the numbers provided in the links above, and using a 19-yr max average of a 0.94% death increase per year, which approximates the population increase per year, we get 474k deaths above average in 2020 and 541k deaths above average in 2021.

In 2021, however, the population increase was well above average, because of heavy Biden-encouraged illegal immigration.

If we estimate that there might have been a 2.4% death increase for 2021 without Covid, which is the second highest year-over-year death increase since 2001, the one in 2017 (3.3% was the highest yoy death increase, the one in 2015), then we get a lower number of deaths above average in 2021. We get 498k.

Either way, if we assign the increased death numbers in 2020 and 2021 to Covid (or the jab), then we get the result that 99.85% of the US population is not dying from Covid per year (using US population of 335m).
I don't think immigration is a huge factor here. A lot of immigrants tend to be younger, and/or reasonably healthy (with some obvious exceptions) AFAIK. Some will work in bad conditions if they are low paid and in sweatshops etc, and probably die young, but a lot of them will be around after middle aged folk like me.

Instead I'd attribute this partly to the fact that like many parts of the western world, many families in the USA are not breeding at replacement levels - this would require at least two children to equal the two parents, and probably a third or fourth to make up for those who can't/won't have children or those who die prematurely.

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Just mentioning the possibility that excess deaths in 2021 might be quite a bit lower than 541k. That is, non-Covid deaths might have jumped in 2021. But all this doesn't affect the general argument.

[Changes in death rates between 2001 and 2019 jump around a lot. The 19 numbers have a standard deviation of 1.3%. They vary between -2.1% in 2004 and 3.3% in 2015.]

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Not sure it's well known, but as many as 5m illegals crossed from Mexico into the US in 2021. That's almost the entire population of Scotland. No matter what, that's going to bump the number of deaths, possibly by tens of thousands.

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Jashon wrote: March 12th, 2022, 8:29 am Not sure it's well known, but as many as 5m illegals crossed from Mexico into the US in 2021. That's almost the entire population of Scotland. No matter what, that's going to bump the number of deaths, possibly by tens of thousands.
I rather wish they were from Scotland! ;)

Especially Niemand is welcomed...

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The data is out there, but I was watching this from the beginning of the covid "crisis". Data became much harder to find starting early 2020, and there were many changes that muddied the water about how cause of death was classified.

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BroJones wrote: March 12th, 2022, 9:15 am
Jashon wrote: March 12th, 2022, 8:29 am Not sure it's well known, but as many as 5m illegals crossed from Mexico into the US in 2021. That's almost the entire population of Scotland. No matter what, that's going to bump the number of deaths, possibly by tens of thousands.
I rather wish they were from Scotland! ;)

Especially Niemand is welcomed...
😂 Thank you. I sometimes think it would be easier to enter the US illegally. They wouldn't finger print and photograph me and ask me a bunch of daft questions. Couldn't take much in the way of hand luggage across the Rio Grande with me though.

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Original_Intent wrote: March 12th, 2022, 9:21 am The data is out there, but I was watching this from the beginning of the covid "crisis". Data became much harder to find starting early 2020, and there were many changes that muddied the water about how cause of death was classified.
Mathematics isn't my strong point, but it's clear people aren't doing enough number crunching on this. The insurance reports show something wrong started happening last year, especially with people in their twenties and thirties. That's why I've been concentrating on the 2020 figures with this guy.

Somewhere like New Zealand doesn't even try to pretend their death rate is any high. The supposed Covid deaths there are only in the dozens. Saint Jacinda saved them all. (Allegedly) Europe and Canada will be interesting too

p.s. Yes, I prefer to use the word "crisis". Unlike "pandemic", it refers to all the other chaos and trouble surrounding it... and unlike Plandemic or Great Reset, it doesn't trigger the normies.
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Niemand wrote: March 12th, 2022, 6:29 am
Robin Hood wrote: March 12th, 2022, 3:58 am
Niemand wrote: March 12th, 2022, 2:03 am Thanks to the Google-based search function on this forum 😒 I can't find them, but I was wondering if anyone can get me the total annual death figures for the USA, please. They've been posted on here before. If anyone can get these for me,.I'd be very grateful.

Ideally, I'd be looking for total annual US deaths for year by year rom at least 2015 to the end of 2020, so that I can show the trends...

Note I am not looking for Covid figures, just the general ones. The 2020 figures do not show the supposed hundreds of thousands of extra dead that one would expect from the news, and the claims that the virus was raging through the population at the time. In fact, while they show a small increase of tens of thousands, which may sound dramatic but is in line with the rises in '18 and '19.

Any help please. Also needs proper (written not linked) refs so I can put this info on a Youtube comment please.
Keep in mind population increase. The raw figures may show a slight upward trend, but when adjusted for population growth, may tell a slightly different story.
Very true. I'm looking to keep it to raw and simple data though to keep it brief, and disprove the idea of vast numbers of deaths in the USA from Covid that the press keeps coming out with. He has tried to counter this with "the lockdown reduced other deaths" (which isn't really true re car accidents or suicides in the States.)

I should probably go through the various UK figures sometime. But with caveats - London's population tends not to be native to that city now and has increased a lot, so is often on the younger side, Scotland's tends towards the elderly, especially out in the islands... but actually even in these parts, places Edinburgh or Aberdeen have younger populations than some of the towns in the Borders or Highlands maybe thirty miles from them. Some places have a lot of deaths related to work and diet.
It doesn't really matter if that has always been the case - at least during the period under investigation. Aberdeen and Edinburgh are pretty much as they have been throughout, and young people leaving the islands has been a feature for 100 years or so.
The thing to watch with UK figures is EU immigration. I believe the figure is about 6 million overall, with a major push just before independence day (not referendum day).

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This isn't a covid thing, 3.5M vs 2.8M (consistently) died. Not from covid from vax and plandemic complications. Just accept it. It is, I'm sure much less than Bill Gates had hoped for, hence his statement that the vaccines weren't as effective as planned and hoped for.

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(Note: It is late so I will finish the post in the morning, but here is the death data at least.)

National Vital Statistics System has the data for deaths and births in the US. Hosted on the CDC website.
2020 total 3,383,729 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/deaths.htm
2019 total 2,854,838 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr ... 08-508.pdf
2018 total 2,839,205 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr ... 13-508.pdf
2017 total 2,813,503 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr ... 09-508.pdf
2016 total 2,744,248 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr67/nvsr67_05.pdf
2015 total 2,712,630 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr66/nvsr66_06.pdf

I've been looking at birth and death data for many years and yes, it is getting harder to find the reports I want.
When looking at mortality data from 2019/2020 forward you must keep in mind life expediencies. This means that the baby boom in the USA from 1946-1964 corresponds with the death "boom" started at the same time as C***D.

Here is some birth data:
(Note what is missing from the chart matters as much as what the chart shows. ;) I will fill in what I can below the chart. 1941-1944,1946-194919511981, 2006-2008, 2010 to present)

Year Births Rate
1910 2,777,000 30.1
1915 2,965,000 29.5
1920 2,950,000 27.7
1925 2,909,000 25.1
1930 2,618,000 21.3
1935 2,377,000 18.7
1940 2,559,000 19.4
1945 2,858,000 20.4
1950 3,632,000 24.1
1952 3,913,000 25.1
1953 3,965,000 25.1
1954 4,078,000 25.3
1955 4,104,000 25.0
1956 4,218,000 25.2
1957 4,308,000 25.3
1958 4,255,000 24.5
1959 4,295,000 24.3
1960 4,257,850 23.7
1961 4,268,326 23.3
1962 4,167,362 22.4
1963 4,098,020 21.7
1964 4,027,490 21.0
1965 3,760,358 19.4
1966 3,606,274 18.4
1967 3,520,959 17.8
1968 3,501,564 17.5
1969 3,600,206 17.8
1970 3,731,386 18.4
1971 3,555,970 17.2
1972 3,258,411 15.6
1973 3,136,965 14.9
1974 3,159,958 14.9
1975 3,144,198 14.8
1976 3,167,788 14.8
1977 3,326,632 15.4
1978 3,333,279 15.3
1979 3,494,398 15.9
1980 3,612,258 15.9
1982 3,680,537 15.9
1983 3,638,933 15.5
1984 3,669,141 15.5
1985 3,760,561 15.8
1986 3,731,000 15.5
1987 3,829,000 15.7
1988 3,913,000 15.9
1989 4,021,000 16.2
1990 4,179,000 16.7
1991 4,111,000 16.2
1992 4,084,000 16.0
1993 4,039,000 15.7
1994 3,979,000 15.3
1995 3,892,000 14.8
1996 3,899,000 14.7
1997 3,882,000 14.5
1998 3,941,553 14.6
1999 3,959,417 14.5
2000 4,058,814 14.7
2001 4,025,933 14.1
2002 4,021,726 13.9
2003 4,089,950 14.1
2004 4,112,052 14.0
2005 4,138,349 14.0
2009 4,131,019 13.8

https://www.infoplease.com/us/populatio ... rates-year

2006
2007
2008 4,247,694 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr59/nvsr59_01.pdf

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I put this together a month or so ago when I started hearing about the jump in all-cause mortality in 2021. I'm still waiting for the CDC to publish the 2021 doc to compare, but it's not out yet, though it sounds like the raw data is published now.

This is all-cause deaths per 100,000 year-to-year by age group in the US. Statistically significant changes from the prior year are marked with the percent change (per CDC).

=== deaths per 100,000 US population 2016-2020 ===
2016 - 2017: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db328-h.pdf
2017 - 2018: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db355-h.pdf
2018 - 2019: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db395-H.pdf
2019 - 2020: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db427.htm

age 1-4:
2016 no data
2017 no data
2018 24.0
2019 23.3
2020 22.7

age 5-14:
2016 no data
2017 no data
2018 13.3
2019 13.4
2020 13.7

age 15-24:
2016 74.9
2017 74.0
2018 70.2 (-5.1%)
2019 69.7
2020 84.2 (+20.8%)

age 25-34:
2016 129.0
2017 132.8 (+2.9%)
2018 128.8 (-3.0%)
2019 128.8
2020 159.5 (+23.8%)

age 35-44:
2016 192.2
2017 195.2 (+1.6%)
2018 194.7
2019 199.2 (+2.3%)
2020 248.0 (+24.5%)

age 45-54:
2016 405.5
2017 401.5 (-1.0%)
2018 395.9 (-1.4%)
2019 392.4 (-0.9%)
2020 473.5 (+20.7%)

age 55-64:
2016 883.8
2017 885.8
2018 886.7
2019 883.3
2020 1038.9 (+17.6%)

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TheDuke wrote: March 12th, 2022, 11:39 am This isn't a covid thing, 3.5M vs 2.8M (consistently) died. Not from covid from vax and plandemic complications. Just accept it. It is, I'm sure much less than Bill Gates had hoped for, hence his statement that the vaccines weren't as effective as planned and hoped for.
That is why they want war, a tried and true way to kill off the young people. Pharaoh killed the babies, war kills the young, old and in between, but mostly the 20-30s.

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Ukraine is a straight up distraction from COVID19 and vaccine conspiracy fact.

"Wizard's First Rule: People are stupid."

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