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CDC director: public fault for thinking science was exact.

https://rumble.com/vwgz67-cdc-director- ... r-off.html

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She also wishes someone would have told her the vaccine would wear off.

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I wonder if the Q15 will try this approach? If so, what would it sound like? Or just blatant gaslighting? "Wasn't it incredible that the Lord saved us" ? Will they acknowledge that it caused damage? "God sacrificed those who were killed/injured so that we may live" ?

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She says "The public didn't understand that science isn't black or white, science is gray."


Excuse me, lady, but that's not what you were telling us the whole time. You were soooooo sure of yourselves, you told us that this was absolutely safe and effective and shut down anyone who questioned or who had scientific data that conflicted with your official narrative. And by shut down, I mean had your social media lackeys censor, ban, shame those of us that had the cajones to stand up to you and question your dubious "science". You fired us, cancelled us, and mandated that we get the jab or else.


If you aren't awake by now, I feel bad for you.

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Gaslighting to the max

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There is no such thing as "trusting the science" here. Science, in any proper sense, is something which has to be verifiable, cross-checked by independent sources (neutral ones) and which allows open critique.

None of this happened, and it's painfully obvious.

Funnily enough, what goes for science also applies to any pretence of democracy.

If there is anyone who was promoting black & white thinking, it was those "trusted media outlets". The ones which treated the public as if they all had IQs lower than Forrest Gump.

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: March 4th, 2022, 9:25 pm I wonder if the Q15 will try this approach? If so, what would it sound like? Or just blatant gaslighting? "Wasn't it incredible that the Lord saved us" ? Will they acknowledge that it caused damage? "God sacrificed those who were killed/injured so that we may live" ?
I wish they would say something, at least throw an olive branch to the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers, just to give us some closure and a way to come back together again. Since we were right all along and did Hear Him, could we at least be taken out of the penalty box? Or will we forever be remembered as the rebels?

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: March 4th, 2022, 9:25 pm I wonder if the Q15 will try this approach? If so, what would it sound like? Or just blatant gaslighting? "Wasn't it incredible that the Lord saved us" ? Will they acknowledge that it caused damage? "God sacrificed those who were killed/injured so that we may live" ?
Something like that.

Someone in my extended family wanted to educate me about confirmation bias using a BYU article in “how to identify trustworthy news and media.”
https://magazine.byu.edu/article/disinfomania/

I responded:

Good point 3) Acknowledge bias…
Eg., If a source pressures you to subject yourself &/or children to medical experimentation with no longitudinal trials, then the source has discredited themselves with bias.

I’d say:
1) Study it out - various perspectives.
2) Ask God (& a religious leader is not God).

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: March 4th, 2022, 9:31 pm She says "The public didn't understand that science isn't black or white, science is gray."
The establishment media (an arm of TPTB) told us the science was black and white, and institutions, businesses and churches (what's the difference?), industries and sheep followed along and enforced this perspective

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Allison wrote: March 5th, 2022, 9:29 amI wish they would say something, at least throw an olive branch to the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers, just to give us some closure and a way to come back together again. Since we were right all along and did Hear Him, could we at least be taken out of the penalty box? Or will we forever be remembered as the rebels?
Well, don’t hold your breath. Oaks said they don't issue apologies.

When dealing with narcissistic behavior, it seems best to assert yourself, not in order to “get through to them” but just for your own well- being & maybe others.

And let’s remember the lesson: trust only God (& the lds Corp president is NOT God, even if everyone is pressuring us to prioritize him above God).

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Niemand wrote: March 5th, 2022, 4:53 am
Funnily enough...
Totally off topic. "Funnily enough" I have ONLY ever heard used by my middle son. He had to convince me it was a real word. You are the only other person I've seen use the phrase. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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The US is doomed.

There is not an elected or appointed offical in the high ranks of government who has the littlest particle of integrity. They are all liars, decievers, spinsters. Willing to say or do anything to get them what they want in the moment.

The US invades soverign countries, kills children, destroys governments and installs puppet regimes....so it cannot find the moral high ground to condemn Putin.

The religious right was duped into supporting a fake war on terror and gave up their morals to support imprisonment and torture of politcal prisioners. Now they have no arguments when the left arrests truckers praying in the streets of Ottawa.

And Americans were told the science was decided and to trust science or else you were an enemy. When really the message was trust your government. Now the people will trust neither.

And always Romney and Pelosi and all their friends get richer. And the immoral media gets richer. While Americans lose more freedom and grow more suspicious of their neighbors.

Doomed.

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kittycat51 wrote: March 5th, 2022, 11:39 am
Niemand wrote: March 5th, 2022, 4:53 am
Funnily enough...
Totally off topic. "Funnily enough" I have ONLY ever heard used by my middle son. He had to convince me it was a real word. You are the only other person I've seen use the phrase. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Used all the time round here.

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Korsgaard46 wrote: March 4th, 2022, 9:04 pm CDC director: public fault for thinking science was exact.

https://rumble.com/vwgz67-cdc-director- ... r-off.html
:| Oh my.... I don't even know what to say. People lost their jobs over this! Or they got an experimental medical procedure in order to keep their job! What the :?:

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Wolfwoman wrote: March 5th, 2022, 7:07 pm
Korsgaard46 wrote: March 4th, 2022, 9:04 pm CDC director: public fault for thinking science was exact.

https://rumble.com/vwgz67-cdc-director- ... r-off.html
:| Oh my.... I don't even know what to say. People lost their jobs over this! Or they got an experimental medical procedure in order to keep their job! What the :?:
People lost their lives, or the life of a loved one over this. People have had their health ruined for the rest of their lives over this. Cancer rates are going to go through the roof over this.

Is she actually joking about it? Because it wore off? Is she a certified idiot?

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Niemand wrote: March 5th, 2022, 2:43 pm
kittycat51 wrote: March 5th, 2022, 11:39 am
Niemand wrote: March 5th, 2022, 4:53 am
Funnily enough...
Totally off topic. "Funnily enough" I have ONLY ever heard used by my middle son. He had to convince me it was a real word. You are the only other person I've seen use the phrase. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Used all the time round here.
Well there you go! My son was pulling from his deep roots. Most of my (Mormon) pioneer heritage came from England 😉 (plus my maternal grandfather was born in St. Helens)

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More like "if you didn't 'trust the science' you were seen to be at fault."

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Niemand wrote: March 5th, 2022, 2:43 pm
kittycat51 wrote: March 5th, 2022, 11:39 am
Niemand wrote: March 5th, 2022, 4:53 am Funnily enough...
Totally off topic. "Funnily enough" I have ONLY ever heard used by my middle son. He had to convince me it was a real word. You are the only other person I've seen use the phrase. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Used all the time round here.
As we see in the quote immediately below, the adverb funnily, derived from the adjective funny, is attested as early as 1749, in a London publication titled "The history of Filchum Cantum".

OED: 1749 I. G. Hist. Filchum Cantum 25 The Wag funnily says—I have thee.

In general, when a native speaker employs an expression – even one that might not be in many dictionaries – out of productive morphological affixation based on a common native word, then there's no reason not to consider it a legitimate native word.

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speaking of science, I am hearing that our 5g has the ability to deliver radiation to us especially through their towers . . . . and this radiation can be harmful and can be felt by you . . .the havanah sickness is similar . . .some border patrol are claiming that they have been hit by a radiation weapon and maybe a type of those blasters that mess up your hearing but are used for crowd control. . .

. . . notice that symptoms are similar to flu or virus(whatever that is) . . .

I was particularly disturbed by a small icon picture that showed halfof the hair missing form a radiated persons head and sores where the hair had been burned off . .

is it possible that the hair being removed from the daughters of Zion, as prophecied in scriptures, and the stink is related to radiation weapons rather than nuclear bombs. . . this would be a lot cleaner death for the gads . . no infrastructure damage . . no resource damage . . except some trees and animals could be killed by this . . .


Quotes form the web
The severity of symptoms depends on the type and amount of radiation, duration of exposure, and distance from the radiation source. Symptoms may occur right after the exposure, or over the next few days, weeks, or months. Bone marrow and the gastrointestinal tract are especially sensitive to radiation injury. Symptoms include:

Nausea
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Severe headache
Fever
Dizziness, disorientation
Weakness
Fainting
Hair loss
Low blood count
Bleeding, bruising


Long-term effects include:

Reduced number of blood cells (white blood cells and platelets) leading to lower immunity and increased risk of internal and external bleeding
Fertility problems
Changes in the kidney function
Increased risk of cancer


What causes a person to get a radiation burn?
According to a report in the journal Current Oncology, approximately 85 percent of patients who undergo radiation therapy experience moderate to severe skin reactions. Other causes of radiation burns are rare and include radioactive fallout after a nuclear explosion and nuclear accidents, such as the infamous Chernobyl nuclear disaster.

When to tell your doctor about a radiation burn?
You may be more likely to get a radiation burn if you’re also doing chemotherapy. The symptoms tend to go away slowly once you finish treatment. In some people, treated skin may stay darker and feel more sensitive. Tell your doctor right away if you have symptoms of a radiation burn or other skin changes.
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How long does it take to get a radiation burn?
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we have accepted these symptoms with radiation treatment of cancer so . . . . I know two friends that died of cancer and refused to do the radiation, even thou they left small children behind . . .

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In addition

What are thermobaric weapons and how do they work?
The ‘vacuum bomb’, which Ukraine says the Russians have used in the invasion, ignites a fireball that sucks in all surrounding oxygen

Ukraine invasion: latest updates
The Russian army’s TOS-1A Solntsepyok multiple rocket launcher and thermobaric weapon mounted on a T-72 tank chassis
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Ukraine's ambassador to US accuses Russia of using a vacuum bomb – video
Virginia Harrison and agencies
Tue 1 Mar 2022 00.21 EST

Fears have risen over the use of thermobaric weapons by Russia after the Ukrainian ambassador to the US said a vacuum bomb – another term for the weapon – had been used during the invasion.

The use of such weapons, which suck in oxygen from the surrounding air to generate a high-temperature explosion, has yet to be independently confirmed, though footage from Ukraine has shown thermobaric rocket launchers on Russia’s TOS-1 vehicles.

Dr Marcus Hellyer, senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, said while it was not clear if they had been deployed yet by Russia in Ukraine, it was only “a matter of time”.

How do they work?
The thermobaric weapon, also known as an aerosol bomb or fuel air explosive, is a two-stage munition.

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The first-stage charge distributes an aerosol made up of very fine material – from a carbon-based fuel to tiny metal particles. A second charge ignites that cloud, creating a fireball, a huge shock wave, and a vacuum as it sucks up all surrounding oxygen.

The blast wave can last for significantly longer than a conventional explosive and is capable of vaporising human bodies.

Such weapons are used for a variety of purposes and come in a range of sizes. Hellyer says what we may see in Ukraine is Russia using them in a “bunker-buster” role to destroy defensive positions. Extremely large, air-launched versions are designed to destroy caves and tunnel complexes.

Where have they been used?
The bombs have been used by Russian and western forces since the 1960s. The US relied on them in its attempts to eliminate al-Qaida in the mountains in Afghanistan. Hellyer said Russia had a longer track record with them than the west. “Russia has systems right across the spectrum … from quite small tactical weapons, to huge, air-launched bombs.

“The separatists that Russia was supporting in the Donbas region, they have been using them for a number of years now.”

In 2000, Human Rights Watch condemned Russia’s reported used of the weapons a year earlier in Chechnya as “a dangerous escalation” with “important humanitarian implications”.

How dangerous are they?
Hellyer said thermobaric weapons were effective at their “specific purpose” of “primarily destroying defensive positions”. While they would not be used to penetrate a tank, they could be a ““very destructive weapon” against an apartment complex or other building.

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“They are not illegal even though their effects can be pretty horrific, because of that effect of creating a vacuum and sucking the air out of the lungs of defenders,” he said.

Given their use is “pretty standard” in terms of Russian tactics, Hellyer said he expected to see more thermobaric warfare in Ukraine.

“One of the things we know about Russian tactics is that they are willing to destroy everything.

“It’s clear that the Ukrainians are hunkering down in some of the cities … as that continues the Russians are going to resort more and more to using … whatever weapons they have including thermobaric weapons in built-up urban areas.”

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“It’s your fault, even though we mandated it.”

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Charles Fort was right about scientific culture.
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Thinker wrote: March 5th, 2022, 10:16 am
Allison wrote: March 5th, 2022, 9:29 amI wish they would say something, at least throw an olive branch to the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers, just to give us some closure and a way to come back together again. Since we were right all along and did Hear Him, could we at least be taken out of the penalty box? Or will we forever be remembered as the rebels?
Well, don’t hold your breath. Oaks said they don't issue apologies.

When dealing with narcissistic behavior, it seems best to assert yourself, not in order to “get through to them” but just for your own well- being & maybe others.

And let’s remember the lesson: trust only God (& the lds Corp president is NOT God, even if everyone is pressuring us to prioritize him above God).
Well just think, Oaks is NEXT in line once Prez N. passes

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Yeliab wrote: March 6th, 2022, 10:14 am
Thinker wrote: March 5th, 2022, 10:16 am Well, don’t hold your breath. Oaks said they don't issue apologies.

When dealing with narcissistic behavior, it seems best to assert yourself, not in order to “get through to them” but just for your own well- being & maybe others.

And let’s remember the lesson: trust only God (& the lds Corp president is NOT God, even if everyone is pressuring us to prioritize him above God).
Well just think, Oaks is NEXT in line once Prez N. passes
When I was a teen, Oaks was my favorite - he seemed intelligent & I think he is, but he lacks self awareness. Eg., he trashed someone for stepping out of their “job duties” as he did to criticize them for standing up for truth.

I like his grandson who has led some events to defend truth & rights though the tyrannical plan-demonic.

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