Is Oaks a commie?

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bjornagain
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Is Oaks a commie?

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I've heard it said that Oaks has explicit ties to communist organizations. Personally I don't doubt he's a full-blown globalist. But does anyone have any sources for the Communist claims?

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I would sure like to know.

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I don’t think so. I still think his BLM talk was obediently fulfilling an assignment whether he wanted to or not. Just think how for a while he was the last man standing against gay marriage in General Conference. And then even he became more quiet, as if he was told to.

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Allison wrote: March 3rd, 2022, 1:40 pm I don’t think so. I still think his BLM talk was obediently fulfilling an assignment whether he wanted to or not. Just think how for a while he was the last man standing against gay marriage in General Conference. And then even he became more quiet, as if he was told to.
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I don't think he is, but he certainly has been leaning more on his legal expertise than anything else recently.

Which isn't necessarily bad in itself, because it is good to be instructed and wise, IF you heed the counsel of God and His revelations.

If I were to grab a look at what his politics are, I would assume he would be an establishment Romney-type Republican.

Which, on this site, is NOT well received.

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Subcomandante wrote: March 3rd, 2022, 1:57 pm I don't think he is, but he certainly has been leaning more on his legal expertise than anything else recently.

Which isn't necessarily bad in itself, because it is good to be instructed and wise, IF you heed the counsel of God and His revelations.

If I were to grab a look at what his politics are, I would assume he would be an establishment Romney-type Republican.

Which, on this site, is NOT well received.
He may have been appointed by a Republican in Utah, but I think he leans more left. Read up on his history and what SCOTUS chief justice he was under. Not the worst judge, but definitely contributed to usurping more federal power. His legal expertise, as far as the Constitution is concerned, is suspect, when he says governments can restrict our rights in a heath emergency.

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I saw some 'supposed' FBI documents that showed a very close connection to the Communist party USA about a year ago... I got the link from this forum too. Not sure I have it readily available. With his statements lately it makes these documents seem more likely to be legit.

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Oaks got in a skirmish with a talk he gave at BYU years ago...where in a Q&A....a student asked for clarification when Oaks said our country is a Democracy...the student said, it is a Constitutional Republic.

Oaks wouldn't back down.

At least he is consistent...CONSISTENTLY WRONG!!

Wrong about the deadly-jab
Wrong about the type of country we have

What else is he wrong about????

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I think we throw the word "communist" around way too much, similar to how the progressives throw the word "racist" around.

I find it highly unlikely that Oaks is a communist. However, I find it very likely that much of what he believes has been influenced and modified/changed through the infiltration of communist ideas in his profession.

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Serragon wrote: March 3rd, 2022, 4:59 pm I think we throw the word "communist" around way too much, similar to how the progressives throw the word "racist" around.

I find it highly unlikely that Oaks is a communist. However, I find it very likely that much of what he believes has been influenced and modified/changed through the infiltration of communist ideas in his profession.
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The problem with lawyers, is they split hairs.

Remember when SWK said to stay away from even the appearance of evil...??

We were told to stay away from the “line”.

Lawyers and their all-knowing superior egos, like to stand on the edge of the cliff and then argue they are clearly not over the line, but to us lessor mortals, we can’t tell.

Anyway whoever thinks a lawyer makes a great church leader... is up in the night...

(Same goes for doctors...).

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Lawyers and judges are always the bad guys in the BofM . . .since our laws have been changed so much then there cannot be an honest lawyer left . . . they have to function under these corrupt laws . . . the dishonest laws make the lawyers dishonest . . .

go along with the corruption of laws in the legal system and turn a blind eye . . or maybe participate in the corruption by using a corrupt defense . . . turn a blind eye to the corruption or lose your standing as a lawyer . .

kinda like the corruption in our medical fields now . . .either go along with the lie or quit your job . . .either turn a blind eye and help people or quit your job . . . can't say which is the higher ground . . . cuz hospital workers say they are helping people even though they are going along with a lie . . .

kinda like the mask . . . turn a blind eye and go along or don't wear it . . . turn a blind eye, wear the mask and never question . . .

use procedures in an emergency room and hospital that is sure to kill a patient and turn a blind eye or lose your job. . .

this attitude that Oaks represents is what has made our whole society willing to follow a narrative without question . . . one always asks themself . . .what is the honest thing to do? Many of us know the right answer . . . but this lifestyle comes from God not man and really rewuires alot oc sacrafice. . .

walk the path down by the dirty river or take the high ground up to the large and spacious building . . .some people think they can have both the spacious building and the celestial kingdom . . .not so . . .tree of life was through the dirty path . . .

Oaks wants to walk the clean path to the CK

Oaks has let the world determine for him how he should feel about things . . . it shows that he really doesn't have confidence . . . in himself or God, I am not sure, but it shows a lack of confidence when we adjust our thinking to the world . . .

for many in our society the well being of our fellow man has taken the second place to our job and money . . . integrity and honesty has taken a second place to money

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Elder Brent Nielsen, the Seventy who spoke at the devotional last Sunday with Pres Nelson (and their wives) was a very successful lawyer before being called as a GA.

Weird fact — a close friend of mine was a lifelong friend of Brent Nielsen’s wife, Marcia. They grew up together. When our mutual friend was very ill, I talked with Marcia on the phone several times, organizing a fast for our friend. I never met the Nielsen’s however.

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I think the correct term is "progressive".

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I suppose Elder Nielson had lots of money, too, right ? . . in the church . . . faithfulness and personal testimony has taken a second place to money . . there are many good men in the church that will never be in a leadership role no matter how righteous they are. . . cuz they don't have money . ..

I'm not saying that Nielson and his wife do not have a testimony and are not faithful . . I'm just saying that they would not have their callings if they were just faithful with a testimony . . money was the closer

The brethren give the message that God has prepared the faithful by giving them money so they can do his work . . . not so . . many faithful men that would make leaders for God have not been given the money by God for the reward of serving in his church. . . a missionary has to prove that they have enough money to complete a mission . . . hmmmmm

I love the continuous flow of stories of . . .remember when . . .I was poor . . or in a refugee camp . . . or in a war zone . . .or a struggling college student .., .then they all end with the . . . but look at how much money I have now . . or now I am a professional with lots of money . . or I own an airline . . ex ceo

this church has a focus on money form the prophet down to the members . . . no denying it . . .

there is alsotwo classes of people in this church . . those who get taught the mysteries in the social clubs outside of church and those who keep getting the milk on sunday cuz they aren't in the mystery social clubs . . . wendy is constantly reminding us how we haven't been good enough to be a part of the return of Christ or we don't know what she does . . .

we're not in the club . . . and we are reminded all of the time in conference and in CFM

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From his Virginia speech

President Oaks explained. “As advocates for religious freedom, we must yield to the fact that in a nation with citizens of many different religious beliefs or disbeliefs, the government must sometimes limit the right of some to act upon their beliefs when it is necessary to protect the health, safety and welfare of all.”

Give the government or the church an inch, they will take a mile.

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ETB was a democrat, but not a socialist. Today, ALL democrats are socialists.

Some declare that the law of consecration is socialist or communist. But there are vast differences. The primary one being freedom. No one is forced to comply.

For me to take a load of stuff to a family whose home burned down is an act of love. For the government to put a gun to my head as they steal taxes from me in order to provide welfare to the same family is a demonic act.

It is not possible for a socialist to follow Christ without a change of heart. ALL members of the Q15 that lean to the left politically, are evil demons. As has been mentioned plenty of times on this forum, demons will never follow Christ. They have defective spirits. They were evil the day they were born. They believe that Lucifer had the best plan. They still do. Just as Lucifer still does. They did not fool God when they chose to follow Lucifer with a body. The purpose of the earth experience is to determine which spirits are good and which are bad.

It is possible that most or all of the Q15 are demons.

When a woman is living in her car with a child and asks the church for help and she is simply referred to a government agency, that Bishop is a demon.
When a church leader encourages someone to get the clot shot, that person is a demon.

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