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Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 2nd, 2022, 10:20 pm
by Sarah
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 2nd, 2022, 10:40 pm
by tribrac
Either poor kids ...literally no money. Or conscripted. Same as Ukraine. Same as US. Same as every country.
Old rich men send young poor men to die. The old farts us patriotism and lies to turn the young mans hunger for adventure and longing to be a part of something grand into a tool for the old farts to get more.
This story is as old as the world, and yet is able to played upon each new generation. The angels must weap, asking God if it is not yet time for Him to intervene.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 3rd, 2022, 6:58 am
by Sarah
tribrac wrote: ↑March 2nd, 2022, 10:40 pm
Either poor kids ...literally no money. Or conscripted. Same as Ukraine. Same as US. Same as every country.
Old rich men send young poor men to die. The old farts us patriotism and lies to turn the young mans hunger for adventure and longing to be a part of something grand into a tool for the old farts to get more.
This story is as old as the world, and yet is able to played upon each new generation. The angles must weap, asking God if it os not uet time for Him to intervene.
I agree. It's really sad. In one of the videos I think a soldier said 80% are conscripts.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 3rd, 2022, 7:20 am
by Niemand
Russia has National Service?
19 though? That's three years in for the British Army. You can join at 16. I went to school with someone who did that.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 3rd, 2022, 7:55 am
by Robin Hood
Contrary to Geneva Convention.
I remember in the first Gulf War when two RAF pilots were shot down and they were paraded on camera in this way.
The world was up in arms because it was against the Geneva Convention to do this... so even more evidence that Sadam was Lucifer incarnate.
Now the Ukrainians are doing it so it's fine.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 12th, 2022, 10:58 am
by Sarah
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 12th, 2022, 11:06 am
by Sarah
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 12th, 2022, 11:08 am
by Sarah
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 12th, 2022, 11:36 am
by tribrac
Don't get me wrong ...like every other good person on earth today I totally enjoy participating in corporate sponsored hate and promotion of violence against people I have never met, but somehow I get a funny feeling inside when I watch these guys as they are forced to recite the corporate messages.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 12th, 2022, 12:02 pm
by Sarah
tribrac wrote: ↑March 12th, 2022, 11:36 am
Don't get me wrong ...like every other good person on earth today I totally enjoy participating in corporate sponsored hate and promotion of violence against people I have never met, but somehow I get a funny feeling inside when I watch these guys as they are forced to recite the corporate messages.
And do you have proof that they are being forced to say these things?
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 12th, 2022, 12:13 pm
by tribrac
I believe you posted some videos above. Sorry I am not smart enough to link them.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 12th, 2022, 12:19 pm
by Robin Hood
In the interests of balance I'd like to hear what captured Ukrainian soldiers have to say for themselves.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 12th, 2022, 1:49 pm
by Robin Hood
tribrac wrote: ↑March 12th, 2022, 11:36 am
Don't get me wrong ...like every other good person on earth today I totally enjoy participating in corporate sponsored hate and promotion of violence against people I have never met, but somehow I get a funny feeling inside when I watch these guys as they are forced to recite the corporate messages.
They all seem to be saying the same thing. That means one of two things:
1. What they are saying is true and consistent.
2. They are all being coached to say the same thing.
My money's on number 2.
Mind you, we only get to hear from a handful, so maybe the rest of them wouldn't play ball.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 13th, 2022, 8:01 pm
by Sarah
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 13th, 2022, 8:03 pm
by spiritMan
Robin Hood wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2022, 7:55 am
Contrary to Geneva Convention.
I remember in the first Gulf War when two RAF pilots were shot down and they were paraded on camera in this way.
The world was up in arms because it was against the Geneva Convention to do this... so even more evidence that Sadam was Lucifer incarnate.
Now the Ukrainians are doing it so it's fine.
Of course! As long as the "good guys" do it, they can do whatever they want and no one bats an eye.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 13th, 2022, 8:16 pm
by Sarah
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 13th, 2022, 8:54 pm
by Sarah
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 14th, 2022, 3:58 pm
by Sarah
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 14th, 2022, 4:02 pm
by Artaxerxes
tribrac wrote: ↑March 2nd, 2022, 10:40 pm
Either poor kids ...literally no money. Or conscripted. Same as Ukraine. Same as US. Same as every country.
Old rich men send young poor men to die. The old farts us patriotism and lies to turn the young mans hunger for adventure and longing to be a part of something grand into a tool for the old farts to get more.
This story is as old as the world, and yet is able to played upon each new generation. The angels must weap, asking God if it is not yet time for Him to intervene.
Totally false about the US. The military is disproportionately from middle class, not poor, backgrounds.
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Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 14th, 2022, 4:20 pm
by lundbaek
This series of posts reminds me that most Americans fighting in WW2 had no clue they were fighting a war to facilitate the rise to power of the Soviet Union.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 14th, 2022, 5:00 pm
by tribrac
Artaxerxes wrote: ↑March 14th, 2022, 4:02 pm
tribrac wrote: ↑March 2nd, 2022, 10:40 pm
Either poor kids ...literally no money. Or conscripted. Same as Ukraine. Same as US. Same as every country.
Old rich men send young poor men to die. The old farts us patriotism and lies to turn the young mans hunger for adventure and longing to be a part of something grand into a tool for the old farts to get more.
This story is as old as the world, and yet is able to played upon each new generation. The angels must weap, asking God if it is not yet time for Him to intervene.
Totally false about the US. The military is disproportionately from middle class, not poor, backgrounds.
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Well nevermind, my arguement is totally irrelevant if suburban kids are involved because they dont want adventure or need a paycheck.
Re: Captured Russian soldiers
Posted: March 14th, 2022, 7:17 pm
by whitesalamander
Did no one ever listen to "War Pigs" by Black Sabbath, or "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival?