I believe Russia is trying to bait us into a war with them

[Trucker]

Everyone's trying to figure out why the Russian military seems to be doing such a bad job in their invasion. Is Putin goin crazy? Does he have a tumor or only a short time to live? Is the Russian military really this inept? Why didn't they knock out communications in Ukraine? Why don't the Russian use secure comms for themselves, but instead let the world listen in on their plans? Why are there so many apparent logistics problems? Why are military vehicles running out of gas, and the soldiers running out of food? Where are the skilled and professional Russian soldiers? Is Russia holding back for some reason? Is Russia really just a paper tiger?

I believe the answer is that Russia is trying to walk a fine line between being a force that is a threat, and a force that appears defeatable. Ukrainian morale is very high, and more and more countries are saying "something must be done." Now that Russia doesn't look so tough anymore, a lot more people think other nations should step in and help. If Russia went in too fast, with too much strength, no one would have wanted to oppose them. If Russia wasn't threatening enough, other countries would just let Ukraine defeat them. This is the Goldilocks "just right" amount of threat and appearance of weakness that will get NATO and the US eventually involved. Then Russia will be able to have a direct conflict with the US, all under the justification that Russia was defending themselves from encroaching NATO and nuclear deployments in Ukraine when the US directly got involved, which proves Russia's point about the US/NATO threat to Russia.

I don't think we should take the bait. I think we will start to hear from a lot of Us politicians, especially Democrats, that "we need to do something." And that's how Russia would get into a war with us.

[BroJones]

Everyone's trying to figure out why the Russian military seems to be doing such a bad job in their invasion. Is Putin goin crazy? Does he have a tumor or only a short time to live? Is the Russian military really this inept? Why didn't they knock out communications in Ukraine? Why don't the Russian use secure comms for themselves, but instead let the world listen in on their plans? Why are there so many apparent logistics problems? Why are military vehicles running out of gas, and the soldiers running out of food? Where are the skilled and professional Russian soldiers? Is Russia holding back for some reason? Is Russia really just a paper tiger?

I believe the answer is that Russia is trying to walk a fine line between being a force that is a threat, and a force that appears defeatable. Ukrainian morale is very high, and more and more countries are saying "something must be done." Now that Russia doesn't look so tough anymore, a lot more people think other nations should step in and help. If Russia went in too fast, with too much strength, no one would have wanted to oppose them. If Russia wasn't threatening enough, other countries would just let Ukraine defeat them. This is the Goldilocks "just right" amount of threat and appearance of weakness that will get NATO and the US eventually involved. Then Russia will be able to have a direct conflict with the US, all under the justification that Russia was defending themselves from encroaching NATO and nuclear deployments in Ukraine when the US directly got involved, which proves Russia's point about the US/NATO threat to Russia.

I don't think we should take the bait. I think we will start to hear from a lot of Us politicians, especially Democrats, that "we need to do something." And that's how Russia would get into a war with us.

You raise several good questions - and your notion of baiting seems reasonable, given the observations.
We may find out more tonight as Biden gives his SOTUnion address.
I hope we don't take the bait either!

[Original_Intent]

I agree we are being baited, but I feel our own media and administration is doing far more baiting than the Russians. I too hope we don't take the bait.

[tribrac]

I found the western response plan ironic and troubling....send guns and ammo to civilians.

That was before the sanctions.

Here you little people....go kill each other so we important people can reach our global sustainability goals.

[NeveR]

Did you guys listen to the McGovern interview I posted? Have you read any opinions from a Russian perspective?

How can we hope to understand what they're doing if we don't listen to what they have to say? Or at least listen to what some analysts who are not total Russophobes have to say?

Here's another POV from Riley Waggaman and James Corbett. They're NOT pro-Russian but their analysis is sophisticated, nuanced and informed.

It's only a half hour of your life. If you care about this crisis, I really suggest listening to it and to as many other diverse POVs as you can...

https://www.minds.com/media/1345340258455130132

"Riley Waggaman, aka "Edward Slavsquat," joins us today to dissect the propaganda myths that continue to swirl about Putin and Russia in the so-called alternative media and the sobering reality that Russia is neither singularly evil nor singularly good and that Putin is not a freedom fighter valiantly battling the globalists."

[tribrac]

A big picture observation....people I know and interact with are stuck on good vs evil. They need to find a bad guy so they can identify the good guy(or vice versa). Once they have determined the roles they can assign blame to the bad guys and make excuses for the good guys. And not think to deeply about what is going on.

I wish I was completely immune to such thinking myself.

[tmac]

I have said this elsewhere: There is no legitimate way to tell for sure that this whole thing isn't just a big well-choreographed ruse, with everybody attempting to play their part. There is clearly more to the whole equation than meets the eye because it just doesn't add up.

There is absolutely no question that the TPTB all the way around want a great reset, and a NWO. The only real question is whether the Eastern and Western PTB actually agree on what that NWO should look like? -- if there is even any actual difference and /or distinction between them. That is the only real question -- who holds the power and control?

[Trucker]

Did you guys listen to the McGovern interview I posted? Have you read any opinions from a Russian perspective?

How can we hope to understand what they're doing if we don't listen to what they have to say? Or at least listen to what some analysts who are not total Russophobes have to say?

Here's another POV from Riley Waggaman and James Corbett. They're NOT pro-Russian but their analysis is sophisticated, nuanced and informed.

It's only a half hour of your life. If you care about this crisis, I really suggest listening to it and to as many other diverse POVs as you can...

https://www.minds.com/media/1345340258455130132

"Riley Waggaman, aka "Edward Slavsquat," joins us today to dissect the propaganda myths that continue to swirl about Putin and Russia in the so-called alternative media and the sobering reality that Russia is neither singularly evil nor singularly good and that Putin is not a freedom fighter valiantly battling the globalists."

I'm familiar with the Russia argument for invading Ukraine. And I understand what Putin said about the reasons. And I get that NATO is encroaching on Russia. I'm not arguing against any of that. But that doesn't explain the poor performance of the Russian military. It doesn't explain why they didn't use secure comms. It doesn't explain why they didn't turn off the internet or phones in Ukraine. It doesn't explain the logistics problems. What I find hard to believe is that all these "errors" in the Russia military are done in good faith in trying to accomplish their goals.

[gruden2.0]

Everyone's trying to figure out why the Russian military seems to be doing such a bad job in their invasion. Is Putin goin crazy? Does he have a tumor or only a short time to live? Is the Russian military really this inept? Why didn't they knock out communications in Ukraine? Why don't the Russian use secure comms for themselves, but instead let the world listen in on their plans? Why are there so many apparent logistics problems? Why are military vehicles running out of gas, and the soldiers running out of food? Where are the skilled and professional Russian soldiers? Is Russia holding back for some reason? Is Russia really just a paper tiger?

I believe the answer is that Russia is trying to walk a fine line between being a force that is a threat, and a force that appears defeatable. Ukrainian morale is very high, and more and more countries are saying "something must be done." Now that Russia doesn't look so tough anymore, a lot more people think other nations should step in and help. If Russia went in too fast, with too much strength, no one would have wanted to oppose them. If Russia wasn't threatening enough, other countries would just let Ukraine defeat them. This is the Goldilocks "just right" amount of threat and appearance of weakness that will get NATO and the US eventually involved. Then Russia will be able to have a direct conflict with the US, all under the justification that Russia was defending themselves from encroaching NATO and nuclear deployments in Ukraine when the US directly got involved, which proves Russia's point about the US/NATO threat to Russia.

I don't think we should take the bait. I think we will start to hear from a lot of Us politicians, especially Democrats, that "we need to do something." And that's how Russia would get into a war with us.

I agree we're being baited, but by whom?

However I have a question, do you really believe the Russians are so bad at OpSec that they use insecure comms? I've seen and posted about what appears to be logistics problems, but at the same time, the more I see, the more I question what is being presented.

I will say this: whatever problems the Russian army may or may not have, this will not be a quick operation for them. They aren't willing to steamroll Ukraine the same way the US did in Iraq (and to a lesser extent Libya). They're walking the edge of the knife and Western powers are giving them no quarter. The longer it goes on, the more likely it ends up spiraling out of control.

What is clear to me is that the power brokers that control NATO and the US/EU have been pushing for this. One way or another, we are all going to suffer. A lot. Pray for peace.

[Robin Hood]

Could it be that Putin is doing what he said he would do - driving the Ukrainian military out of the eastern region in order for the newly recognised self-declared republics to be free of Ukrainian troops and to create a buffer zone between Russia and pro-west Ukraine?
I suspect he is doing just that, and the west knows it.
Ignore the media propaganda.

[Niemand]

Could it be that Putin is doing what he said he would do - driving the Ukrainian military out of the eastern region in order for the newly recognised self-declared republics to be free of Ukrainian troops and to create a buffer zone between Russia and pro-west Ukraine?
I suspect he is doing just that, and the west knows it.
Ignore the media propaganda.

Most likely scenario. He wants to do another Georgia... which itself parallels what NATO did to Serbia, creating Montenegro, Kosovo and Macedonia out of bits of it.

I'm sympathetic to the plight of ordinary Ukrainians but can't stand the amount of idiotic postings on FB etc about how wonderful Zelensky is. Just another globalist prat using this war as a photo op for his next campaign.

[NeveR]

That vid of Zelensky in the high heels is pretty embarrassing. I get the impression he's just another puppet for the usual gang. A bit of a nonentity.

[Niemand]

That vid of Zelensky in the high heels is pretty embarrassing. I get the impression he's just another puppet for the usual gang. A bit of a nonentity.

The more I learn of him, the more pathetic that man is. I'm seeing vomit inducing memes on Facebook with pictures of him saying "Some have greatness thrust upon them". I think he's out of his depth. He's not on the front line either.

[1775peasant]

on 1 hand the legacy media wants u to believe Russia is behind each & every US Govt hack, that they’ve corned the spy industry, can poison people countries away as they eat……etc


but now, we’re fed that they’ve become a bunch of bumbling dipsticks unable to tie their boots or walk & chew gum at the same time…


constant theater from paid shills

[Trucker]

That 3-mile long Russia convoy hasn't made any progress towards Kyiv in 48 hours. Why?

"WASHINGTON — A senior U.S. defense official says the Russian convoy still appears to be stalled outside the city center of Kyiv, and has made no real progress in the last couple days."
https://am870theanswer.com/news/nationa ... d40169f940

And why are they all bunched up? It's like they are screaming "come bomb us please!"

[WikiUp]

Could it be that the convoy delay is just giving the opportunity for negotiations to be successful in Russia favor?

I'm willing to suggest, once negotiations end and Russia does NOT get what it wants, the convoy will roll on without any hesitation.