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Ukraine is a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children trafficked transnationally for the purposes of commercial sexual exploitation and forced labor. Ukrainian women are trafficked to Russia, Poland, Turkey, China, the Czech Republic, the United Arab Emirates, Austria, Italy, Portugal, Germany, Greece, Israel, Spain, Lebanon, Hungary, Slovak Republic, Cyprus, United Kingdom, Netherlands, Serbia, Argentina, Norway, Iran, Bahrain and The United States. The majority of Ukrainian labor trafficking victims were men exploited in Russia, the Czech Republic and Poland, primarily forced to work as construction laborers, sailors, and factory and agriculture workers. There are indications Ukraine is a destination for people from neighboring countries trafficked for forced labor and sexual exploitation. In addition, trafficking occurs within Ukraine; men and women are trafficked within the country for the purposes of labor exploitation in the agriculture and service sectors, commercial sexual exploitation, and forced begging. Ukrainian children are trafficked both internally and transnationally for commercial sexual exploitation, forced begging, and involuntary servitude in the agriculture industry. An IOM survey released in December 2006 concluded that since 1991, approximately 117,000 Ukrainians had been forced into exploitative situations in Europe, the Middle East, and Russia. In 2008 the Government of Ukraine did not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking; however, it was making significant efforts to do so. While there was little evidence of efforts to curb trafficking complicity of government officials and of concrete steps to protect and assist trafficking victims at the national level, local governments made some progress on victim assistance. The government also made modest, but tangible, progress in improving the punishment of convicted traffickers, prosecuting labor trafficking, training the judiciary, and carrying out prevention activities.[1] U.S. State Department's Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons placed the country in "Tier 2" in 2017.[2]
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Ukraine is a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children trafficked transnationally for the purposes of commercial sexual exploitation and forced labor. Ukrainian women are trafficked to Russia, Poland, Turkey, China, the Czech Republic, the United Arab Emirates, Austria, Italy, Portugal, Germany, Greece, Israel, Spain, Lebanon, Hungary, Slovak Republic, Cyprus, United Kingdom, Netherlands, Serbia, Argentina, Norway, Iran, Bahrain and The United States. The majority of Ukrainian labor trafficking victims were men exploited in Russia, the Czech Republic and Poland, primarily forced to work as construction laborers, sailors, and factory and agriculture workers. There are indications Ukraine is a destination for people from neighboring countries trafficked for forced labor and sexual exploitation. In addition, trafficking occurs within Ukraine; men and women are trafficked within the country for the purposes of labor exploitation in the agriculture and service sectors, commercial sexual exploitation, and forced begging. Ukrainian children are trafficked both internally and transnationally for commercial sexual exploitation, forced begging, and involuntary servitude in the agriculture industry. An IOM survey released in December 2006 concluded that since 1991, approximately 117,000 Ukrainians had been forced into exploitative situations in Europe, the Middle East, and Russia. In 2008 the Government of Ukraine did not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking; however, it was making significant efforts to do so. While there was little evidence of efforts to curb trafficking complicity of government officials and of concrete steps to protect and assist trafficking victims at the national level, local governments made some progress on victim assistance. The government also made modest, but tangible, progress in improving the punishment of convicted traffickers, prosecuting labor trafficking, training the judiciary, and carrying out prevention activities.[1] U.S. State Department's Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons placed the country in "Tier 2" in 2017.[2]
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I was impressed by the HG 10 years ago to start repenting and study politics, the temple and my patriarchal blessing . . . funny . . now HG just literally tells me where to look for info on politics . I no longer search the dark web cuz it is all out there in front of my eyes . . .
like Gklen Beck says, "I'm exhausted." I don't even post most of what I have found in truth regarding politics . . . no one wants to wake up . . .we all just want to argue
like Gklen Beck says, "I'm exhausted." I don't even post most of what I have found in truth regarding politics . . . no one wants to wake up . . .we all just want to argue
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and why are we arguing . . .like sara said . . . cuz satan is goooooood . . .he is the master of confusion . . . . if you never know who the real enemy is then you can't kill him/her . . . false prophets are not just religious . . .they are also political false prophets . . . the whole fox news interview and reporting is bull sockey . . . we are being confused os mujch by so many voices that we trusted that we can't even come to an agreement of whatis going on . . .
time to build Zion btw . . its all about money and power . . .mostly money . . . . in the endowment . . .I will take all the treasures of the world and I will buy up tyrants and armies . . . you can buy anything in this world with money
5 virgins were not deceived. . . the propblem is not your deception so much as now it is the people who are trying to report . . they have been and are being deceived . . . and some are being down right deceptive . . .they are lying
time to build Zion btw . . its all about money and power . . .mostly money . . . . in the endowment . . .I will take all the treasures of the world and I will buy up tyrants and armies . . . you can buy anything in this world with money
5 virgins were not deceived. . . the propblem is not your deception so much as now it is the people who are trying to report . . they have been and are being deceived . . . and some are being down right deceptive . . .they are lying
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poster's note: I used the wiki post to show you how easy it is to get information off the web then begin to put things together . . . to find the truth.
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someone posted on twitter that sean penn is doing a documentary about Ukraine and russia and it shows the actors running on cue foro the bombs . . .
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msshatan posts about loved ones in Ukraine leaving family with a couple wiping tears . . .but it is really from a 2017 movie called the War of chimeras . . . Adam Kizinger posts two children watching tanks go through streets of Ukraine. . . same picture and kids used for war in China in 2016 headline
another crisis actor used alot . . Jordan Treibel . . . will have to search her on xandis .. shes been blown up alot . . .total fear tactics . . .encourages war . . .kinda gadianton, isn't it?
5 virgins were not deceived . . took HG for their guide
another crisis actor used alot . . Jordan Treibel . . . will have to search her on xandis .. shes been blown up alot . . .total fear tactics . . .encourages war . . .kinda gadianton, isn't it?
5 virgins were not deceived . . took HG for their guide
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another one FRnews now @frnews_ng has a little girl confronting Putins army . . .same picture of girl used confronting israeli army in 2012
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Consider that any planned war effort would also include a propaganda war with it. And that Russian propagandists would try to make the Ukrainian government and media out to be liars.EvanLM wrote: ↑February 28th, 2022, 5:55 pm msshatan posts about loved ones in Ukraine leaving family with a couple wiping tears . . .but it is really from a 2017 movie called the War of chimeras . . . Adam Kizinger posts two children watching tanks go through streets of Ukraine. . . same picture and kids used for war in China in 2016 headline
another crisis actor used alot . . Jordan Treibel . . . will have to search her on xandis .. shes been blown up alot . . .total fear tactics . . .encourages war . . .kinda gadianton, isn't it?
5 virgins were not deceived . . took HG for their guide
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this propaganda that I have presented is from the USA cabal . . . USA is babylon . . .
btw Putin doesn't need to war on Ukraine . . .he can just turnoff their natural gas that they buy from him like he did when he took Crimea without a fight . . .but now, he wants to get rid of the bioweapon labs . . .
I think people are tired of the truth and there are too many voices. . . .all I can say is that we were warned by God through his ancient prophets . . .mostly Isaiah and then John . . even our own prophets are confusedin themiddle of this . . .I can see why you would question my posts . . . . truth is hard and Isaiah told us we would not know where to find it . . .
btw Putin doesn't need to war on Ukraine . . .he can just turnoff their natural gas that they buy from him like he did when he took Crimea without a fight . . .but now, he wants to get rid of the bioweapon labs . . .
I think people are tired of the truth and there are too many voices. . . .all I can say is that we were warned by God through his ancient prophets . . .mostly Isaiah and then John . . even our own prophets are confusedin themiddle of this . . .I can see why you would question my posts . . . . truth is hard and Isaiah told us we would not know where to find it . . .
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I'm curious to know how the biolab theory got started. What is your proof that Zelenski is a Lucerferian?EvanLM wrote: ↑February 28th, 2022, 5:03 pm some of the news of Putin complaining was published in French newspapers . . . . sometimes I have to leave the US news to get some truth . . . fox News supplied some of this and the rest is being reported out of Ukraine . . .storm rider gives the value of the resources in Ukraine that can be taken by the cabal . . . check out Soros texts . . .what a liar and he tells us his own story and crimes . . .
Putin put out a map of hits ion a map and that is where he has hit . . .doesn't have a ground army in there yet . . but USA sent a missle to tase Putins planes down . . . no protection for the people . . .I was'nt surprised to see the people go underground . . . when those labs blow . . .then air is gonna be hard to breathe . .
just an hour ago the US embassy just removed all of their Ukraine biolab web documents . . . from the website . . just in the last day they removed all of the pdf files . . . reported by seargant news. . . america was their national headquarters for the activites. . . .
Ukraine is under control mostly by iluminati . . witha Lucerferian president who hand picked the parliament . . .largest money laundering country in the wolrd . . largest child trafficking
and . . Putinis only destroying their bio weapon labs . . . .
is anyones eyes getting opened yet? google it all . . . you';ll find newspaper articles and other news regarding what I have put here. . .
Putin invaded Ukraine on the same day or anniversary of the 2014 coup, Feb 22nd. What are the chances? Especially when he kept telling everyone that he didn't want to invade. These troops were simply doing an exercise on the border, he said. He obviously timed the invasion that way, so this is not a sudden response to a threat like a biolab leak which he could easily take care of through infiltration. This invasion has been planned for a long time.
Putin is likely moving on Ukraine like he is now, in order to create that enmity needed for a world war. He's ready now to be the villain to the West, before the West gets wrapped up in economic collapse, and wars in the Pacific and Middle East. The goal with those wars is to weaken the US military with conflict. But you need to have the American people wanting to fight. And right now a lot of them want to fight Putin. If suddenly Iran, a Russian ally, attacked Israel, and NK, also a Russian ally, attacked SK, there would be more support to go fighting, to conquer these crazy dictators and defend freedom. Putin's willing to be the bad guy because he already has the confidence that he and Xi would win in the end. If he were to wait to make a move on Ukraine until after it collapsed, he may not have the controlled oppositional support he knows he has within Ukraine right now (Apparently the Ukrainian Generals and Russian Generals are drinking buddies according to the propaganda video posted in another thread)
Zelenski is playing his part as well, encouraging the freedom fighters to give their lives. If Putin were to wait until Ukraine collapsed, it would require a different kind of war. He also needs to continue to build this narrative that the West is hurting him with sanctions and cutting off money and everything else, and so now Russia really is a victim.
When Putin cuts off oil to all of Europe, it will seem justified and reasonable in many people's eyes, because of all this drama of Europe punishing him. If he were to cut off oil to Europe out of the blue, even his sympathizers would have a hard time justifying that (because the US is the imperialist). So with this invasion of Ukraine, Europe is rallying against him, which will give him a reason to cut off their oil.
When Putin finally makes it to America after the collapse, the conservatives and patriots who have drunk deeply from his kool-aid will be happy to surrender to this moral, Christian, alpha-male and thank the Lord they've been delivered from anti-Christ Biden/Obama/Soros and the NWO socialists. But say goodbye to freedom and hello to a mob boss. Except we all know here in America we have a secret weapon to save our country and build up something great.
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If USA is Babylon, that makes Putin the Beast. We knows who's plotting to kill who in that scenario.EvanLM wrote: ↑February 28th, 2022, 7:02 pm this propaganda that I have presented is from the USA cabal . . . USA is babylon . . .
btw Putin doesn't need to war on Ukraine . . .he can just turnoff their natural gas that they buy from him like he did when he took Crimea without a fight . . .but now, he wants to get rid of the bioweapon labs . . .
I think people are tired of the truth and there are too many voices. . . .all I can say is that we were warned by God through his ancient prophets . . .mostly Isaiah and then John . . even our own prophets are confusedin themiddle of this . . .I can see why you would question my posts . . . . truth is hard and Isaiah told us we would not know where to find it . . .
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Try "Yeah Russia" (correction, renamed "Natasha's Adventures" on YouTube). She lives in the Russian Far East and is no fan of Putin. She had some community posts within the last few days. I see they've been removed now, but she was basically saying she doesn't support the invasion of the Ukraine.Sarah wrote: ↑February 28th, 2022, 10:11 am"Brought to you by Radio Sputnik" a (Russian) state owned news agency. Which means it's Putin's narrative, paid for by Putin.NeveR wrote: ↑February 28th, 2022, 8:46 am Podcast - worth a listen for an informed US perspective...
https://raymcgovern.com/2022/02/25/scot ... ical-hour/
I have a challenge for you. Can you find anyone from Russia, who is a blogger or youtuber, who is anti-Putin? I'm having a really hard time in my search. All I'm getting are references of bloggers being jailed or poisoned. You'd think there would be at least one out there![]()
Personally I find her politics a bit woke, and her analysis very studenty, but I'm subscribed because i find her interesting on everyday Russian life.
https://youtube.com/c/YeahRussia
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US official: Russian invasion of Ukraine risks release of dangerous pathogens
By Matt Field | February 25, 2022
A research lab in Kyiv. A research lab in Kyiv, Ukraine built by the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program. Credit: Defense Threat Reduction Agency
The Russian invasion of Ukraine may put at risk a network of US-linked labs in Ukraine that work with dangerous pathogens, said Robert Pope, the director of the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, a 30-year-old Defense Department program that has helped secure the former Soviet Union’s weapons of mass destruction and redirect former bioweapons facilities and scientists toward peaceful endeavors.
The labs in Ukraine are not bioweapons facilities. The US government maintains that they are public and animal health labs operated by host countries. Although a long-running Russian disinformation campaign has painted a picture of a network of US military labs in Ukraine, Georgia, and other former Soviet republics involved in bioweapons or risky research, Pope said the labs conduct peaceful scientific research and disease surveillance. Outside experts have also said Pope’s program is not a covert bioweapons operation.
While the United States isn’t maintaining bioweapons facilities, Pope said, war could put pathogen collections in Ukraine at risk.
“I would say from every facility that we have worked with them in, we have confidence that as long as the electrical power is turned on and the people we have trained are present at the facility, the biosafety officers, that these pathogens are safe and secure to international standards,” Pope said. “Should these facilities be damaged by conflict, that could change.”
The pathogens with which the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program labs work are generally kept frozen, so they can’t replicate and become infectious. The risk the pathogens pose would increase if a building lost power and suffered damage. “If you lose the electrical power, the pathogens in the freezers warm up,” he said. “If the ventilation system is damaged, or the building itself is damaged, and these now ambient-temperature pathogens are able to escape the facility, then they can be potentially infectious in the region around the facility.”
Although Russian officials and media have misrepresented the US-supported labs in Ukraine and other former Soviet countries in disinformation campaigns, Pope doesn’t believe the Russians will deliberately aim weapons at the labs during the invasion.
“I think the Russians know enough about the kinds of pathogens that are stored in biological research laboratories that I don’t think they would deliberately target a laboratory,” Pope said. “But what I do have concerns about is that they would … be accidentally damaged during this Russian invasion.”
The invasion could also provide fodder for new disinformation narratives around the labs, Pope feared. The Russians, he said, “could potentially go to one of these facilities and fabricate something that they call evidence of nefarious activity at the facility.”
The pathogens in Ukrainian labs vary by facility, Pope said, but some can be characterized as presenting a concern in the Ukrainian environment. As an example, he cited African swine fever virus, which is highly contagious in pigs and has caused hundreds of outbreaks in Ukraine since 2012. Some labs, he said, may hold pathogen strains left over from the Soviet bioweapons program, preserved in freezers for research purposes.
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“There is no place that still has any of the sort of infrastructure for researching or producing biological weapons,” Pope said. “Scientists being scientists, it wouldn’t surprise me if some of these strain collections in some of these laboratories still have pathogen strains that go all the way back to the origins of that program.”
The program is encouraging host countries to reduce the scope of their pathogen holdings to as small of a collection as necessary for legitimate scientific research, Pope said.
“What we have today and what these countries maintain are small amounts of various pathogens that by and large are things that are collected out of their environment that they need for research to be able to legitimately surveil disease and develop vaccines against,” he said.
This work, Pope said, continued in Ukraine until recently. “They have more pathogens in more places than we recommend,” he said. The program had been helping Ukrainian researchers sift through their frozen pathogen collections, with the goal of persuading the Ukrainians to preserve their genetic information of samples via sequencing before destroying the live samples.
Pope said his program had been close to an agreement with the Ukrainians on consolidating samples, but the invasion has now made that project uncertain. “All of that, obviously, has been derailed here with the recent events,” he said.
The Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, Pope said Thursday, has not had contact with biosafety staff at the labs in Ukraine since the Russian invasion. Phone lines have been jammed in Ukraine, he said, and “I don’t know what kind of contact we will have in these labs in the near future.”
Some Ukrainian labs, like the Ukrainian Ministry of Health’s Public Health Center, Pope said, are major facilities, others small. Some are new, while others date back to the Soviet-era and the country’s bioweapons program.
The US government has worked with 26 facilities in Ukraine. Before the invasion, the program provided direct material support to six Ukrainian labs. The program also provides biosafety and scientific mentorship training to Ministry of Health personnel throughout the country.
Robert Pope Robert Pope, the director of the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, meets with Ukrainian officials. Credit: Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
Researchers consider the Soviet bioweapons program to be the most extensive and sophisticated to have existed, employing some 65,000 scientists. While both the United States and the Soviet Union signed the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention banning biological weapons, the Soviet Union went on to secretly expand its program. The country’s program had a forward-looking orientation; it sought, for instance, to develop chimeric viruses that had the genetic properties of two viruses and even to create viral/bacterial hybrids, biosecurity experts Milton Leitenberg and Raymond Zilinskas wrote a well-regarded history of the program in 2012.
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The Cooperative Threat Reduction Program began with heavy Russian involvement. In the early 1990s, “employees at the multiple former biological weapon facilities operated by Biopreparat, the non-military part of the program, were increasingly desperate to support themselves and their families,” according to a 2020 account published by the US National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. An agreement among the European Union, the United States, Russia, and Japan led to the development of the International Science and Technology Center in Moscow, which channeled US Cooperative Threat Reduction Program resources and funds from other countries into scientific projects involving former biological weapons experts.
The technology center supported thousands of “former weaponeers,” who worked on projects in areas such as lab safety, infectious disease research, medical countermeasures, and diagnostic test development.
The Pentagon even sponsored Western scientists to work in former Russian bioweapons labs. By 2012, however, the arrangement between Russia, the United States, and others began to unravel, and Russia ended its agreement to host the International Science and Technology Center, which has since moved to Kazakhstan.
Cooperative Threat Reduction Program efforts have continued in the former Soviet republics of Ukraine and Georgia. After 9/11, the program began to focus more on how terrorists could misuse biological research and the program’s biological threat reduction component, as opposed to programs involving nuclear or chemical weapons, Pope said. Now, 62 percent of the program’s $360 million budget for this fiscal year is focused on biological issues.
At some point after Russia pulled out of the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, disinformation campaigns involving Russian officials, state media, and others began to allege that the United States was running a bioweapons program on Russia’s periphery, or that it was jeopardizing the health of local citizens with dangerous experimentation. As Russia’s march to war in Ukraine heated up, so too did a campaign to discredit US-affiliated labs in the country.
Pope suspects the Russian disinformation campaign against the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program stems from Russian President Vladimir Putin’s vision of wielding influence in the countries surrounding Russia
“You look at the partners we have in several of the former Soviet republics, like Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan, where we have had great partnerships over many years—I think Vladimir Putin looks at that as a zero-sum game of, ‘if they are partnering with the US, then that is a threat to the Russian sphere of influence,’” Pope said.
Putin’s end game in Ukraine remains unclear. On the second day of the invasion, Russian troops had reportedly advanced into the capital Kyiv. By any measure, Ukraine’s popular government is teetering on the edge. Pope said he’s anxious to resume working with his partners in Ukraine. That is not a sure prospect at this point.
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We can restock labs later. Disposing of anything of threat at this point is the responsibility of the scientists running those labs or they are as liable.
Every laboratory facility ensures their potentially dangerous materials do not escape into the public or they face consequences. This should be no different. Incinerating on site should be feasible in light of active war in the country.
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Okay well if they’re willingly not going to incinerate these pathogens…..wouldn’t Russia bombing these pathogen facilities be the next best thing? You would think a missile or a bomb would easily incinerate these pathogens…..
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A missile or bomb would just as easily release pathogens as it would incinerate them. Intentional destruction should be the priority
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I’m just sayin…..If Ukraine’s Lab staff didn’t already immediately incinerate ALL of the pathogens present in their labs as soon as Russia’s full scale invasion began…….then wouldn’t we actually want Russia to send a missile/bomb to these lab’s? To ensure the pathogens are destroyed? Since a missile/bomb would most likely incinerate EVERYTHING in it’s direct path. You know I think people forget that the COVID-19 pandemic is still in full swing! It was never declassified as no longer being a pandemic and now you’re telling me the world needs to worry more about these pathogens potentially being released during this… Read more »
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Thermobaric weapons. Hotter than Hot. They are in use for this purpose.
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By Matt Field | February 25, 2022
A research lab in Kyiv. A research lab in Kyiv, Ukraine built by the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program. Credit: Defense Threat Reduction Agency
The Russian invasion of Ukraine may put at risk a network of US-linked labs in Ukraine that work with dangerous pathogens, said Robert Pope, the director of the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, a 30-year-old Defense Department program that has helped secure the former Soviet Union’s weapons of mass destruction and redirect former bioweapons facilities and scientists toward peaceful endeavors.
The labs in Ukraine are not bioweapons facilities. The US government maintains that they are public and animal health labs operated by host countries. Although a long-running Russian disinformation campaign has painted a picture of a network of US military labs in Ukraine, Georgia, and other former Soviet republics involved in bioweapons or risky research, Pope said the labs conduct peaceful scientific research and disease surveillance. Outside experts have also said Pope’s program is not a covert bioweapons operation.
While the United States isn’t maintaining bioweapons facilities, Pope said, war could put pathogen collections in Ukraine at risk.
“I would say from every facility that we have worked with them in, we have confidence that as long as the electrical power is turned on and the people we have trained are present at the facility, the biosafety officers, that these pathogens are safe and secure to international standards,” Pope said. “Should these facilities be damaged by conflict, that could change.”
The pathogens with which the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program labs work are generally kept frozen, so they can’t replicate and become infectious. The risk the pathogens pose would increase if a building lost power and suffered damage. “If you lose the electrical power, the pathogens in the freezers warm up,” he said. “If the ventilation system is damaged, or the building itself is damaged, and these now ambient-temperature pathogens are able to escape the facility, then they can be potentially infectious in the region around the facility.”
Although Russian officials and media have misrepresented the US-supported labs in Ukraine and other former Soviet countries in disinformation campaigns, Pope doesn’t believe the Russians will deliberately aim weapons at the labs during the invasion.
“I think the Russians know enough about the kinds of pathogens that are stored in biological research laboratories that I don’t think they would deliberately target a laboratory,” Pope said. “But what I do have concerns about is that they would … be accidentally damaged during this Russian invasion.”
The invasion could also provide fodder for new disinformation narratives around the labs, Pope feared. The Russians, he said, “could potentially go to one of these facilities and fabricate something that they call evidence of nefarious activity at the facility.”
The pathogens in Ukrainian labs vary by facility, Pope said, but some can be characterized as presenting a concern in the Ukrainian environment. As an example, he cited African swine fever virus, which is highly contagious in pigs and has caused hundreds of outbreaks in Ukraine since 2012. Some labs, he said, may hold pathogen strains left over from the Soviet bioweapons program, preserved in freezers for research purposes.
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“There is no place that still has any of the sort of infrastructure for researching or producing biological weapons,” Pope said. “Scientists being scientists, it wouldn’t surprise me if some of these strain collections in some of these laboratories still have pathogen strains that go all the way back to the origins of that program.”
The program is encouraging host countries to reduce the scope of their pathogen holdings to as small of a collection as necessary for legitimate scientific research, Pope said.
“What we have today and what these countries maintain are small amounts of various pathogens that by and large are things that are collected out of their environment that they need for research to be able to legitimately surveil disease and develop vaccines against,” he said.
This work, Pope said, continued in Ukraine until recently. “They have more pathogens in more places than we recommend,” he said. The program had been helping Ukrainian researchers sift through their frozen pathogen collections, with the goal of persuading the Ukrainians to preserve their genetic information of samples via sequencing before destroying the live samples.
Pope said his program had been close to an agreement with the Ukrainians on consolidating samples, but the invasion has now made that project uncertain. “All of that, obviously, has been derailed here with the recent events,” he said.
The Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, Pope said Thursday, has not had contact with biosafety staff at the labs in Ukraine since the Russian invasion. Phone lines have been jammed in Ukraine, he said, and “I don’t know what kind of contact we will have in these labs in the near future.”
Some Ukrainian labs, like the Ukrainian Ministry of Health’s Public Health Center, Pope said, are major facilities, others small. Some are new, while others date back to the Soviet-era and the country’s bioweapons program.
The US government has worked with 26 facilities in Ukraine. Before the invasion, the program provided direct material support to six Ukrainian labs. The program also provides biosafety and scientific mentorship training to Ministry of Health personnel throughout the country.
Robert Pope Robert Pope, the director of the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, meets with Ukrainian officials. Credit: Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
Researchers consider the Soviet bioweapons program to be the most extensive and sophisticated to have existed, employing some 65,000 scientists. While both the United States and the Soviet Union signed the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention banning biological weapons, the Soviet Union went on to secretly expand its program. The country’s program had a forward-looking orientation; it sought, for instance, to develop chimeric viruses that had the genetic properties of two viruses and even to create viral/bacterial hybrids, biosecurity experts Milton Leitenberg and Raymond Zilinskas wrote a well-regarded history of the program in 2012.
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The Cooperative Threat Reduction Program began with heavy Russian involvement. In the early 1990s, “employees at the multiple former biological weapon facilities operated by Biopreparat, the non-military part of the program, were increasingly desperate to support themselves and their families,” according to a 2020 account published by the US National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. An agreement among the European Union, the United States, Russia, and Japan led to the development of the International Science and Technology Center in Moscow, which channeled US Cooperative Threat Reduction Program resources and funds from other countries into scientific projects involving former biological weapons experts.
The technology center supported thousands of “former weaponeers,” who worked on projects in areas such as lab safety, infectious disease research, medical countermeasures, and diagnostic test development.
The Pentagon even sponsored Western scientists to work in former Russian bioweapons labs. By 2012, however, the arrangement between Russia, the United States, and others began to unravel, and Russia ended its agreement to host the International Science and Technology Center, which has since moved to Kazakhstan.
Cooperative Threat Reduction Program efforts have continued in the former Soviet republics of Ukraine and Georgia. After 9/11, the program began to focus more on how terrorists could misuse biological research and the program’s biological threat reduction component, as opposed to programs involving nuclear or chemical weapons, Pope said. Now, 62 percent of the program’s $360 million budget for this fiscal year is focused on biological issues.
At some point after Russia pulled out of the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, disinformation campaigns involving Russian officials, state media, and others began to allege that the United States was running a bioweapons program on Russia’s periphery, or that it was jeopardizing the health of local citizens with dangerous experimentation. As Russia’s march to war in Ukraine heated up, so too did a campaign to discredit US-affiliated labs in the country.
Pope suspects the Russian disinformation campaign against the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program stems from Russian President Vladimir Putin’s vision of wielding influence in the countries surrounding Russia
“You look at the partners we have in several of the former Soviet republics, like Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan, where we have had great partnerships over many years—I think Vladimir Putin looks at that as a zero-sum game of, ‘if they are partnering with the US, then that is a threat to the Russian sphere of influence,’” Pope said.
Putin’s end game in Ukraine remains unclear. On the second day of the invasion, Russian troops had reportedly advanced into the capital Kyiv. By any measure, Ukraine’s popular government is teetering on the edge. Pope said he’s anxious to resume working with his partners in Ukraine. That is not a sure prospect at this point.
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TVF
3 days ago
We can restock labs later. Disposing of anything of threat at this point is the responsibility of the scientists running those labs or they are as liable.
Every laboratory facility ensures their potentially dangerous materials do not escape into the public or they face consequences. This should be no different. Incinerating on site should be feasible in light of active war in the country.
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3 days ago
Okay well if they’re willingly not going to incinerate these pathogens…..wouldn’t Russia bombing these pathogen facilities be the next best thing? You would think a missile or a bomb would easily incinerate these pathogens…..
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Liz F
Liz F
2 days ago
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A missile or bomb would just as easily release pathogens as it would incinerate them. Intentional destruction should be the priority
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Vanessa F.
Vanessa F.
3 days ago
I’m just sayin…..If Ukraine’s Lab staff didn’t already immediately incinerate ALL of the pathogens present in their labs as soon as Russia’s full scale invasion began…….then wouldn’t we actually want Russia to send a missile/bomb to these lab’s? To ensure the pathogens are destroyed? Since a missile/bomb would most likely incinerate EVERYTHING in it’s direct path. You know I think people forget that the COVID-19 pandemic is still in full swing! It was never declassified as no longer being a pandemic and now you’re telling me the world needs to worry more about these pathogens potentially being released during this… Read more »
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Philip Cruz
Philip Cruz
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Thermobaric weapons. Hotter than Hot. They are in use for this purpose.
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EvanLM
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Potin said that he didn't want to . . . ugh . . .what was the word / . . . andwya take control of Ukraine . . . he just wanted to get rid of the labs . . . look a tthe coverup . . .the very media games that have been done to us under the patrioot act is now being done to our gadiantons . . .the news you are getting is being censored . . .
then, as quickly as the truth comes out the gads are trying to deny it. . . . .
then, as quickly as the truth comes out the gads are trying to deny it. . . . .
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EvanLM
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did you listen to Pelosi today . . I think it was a fox news interview . . . she claimed that the situiation wouldn't allow US to send troops in . . .uh, yeah . . .she's getting tired of truthers . . .Sarah wrote: ↑February 28th, 2022, 10:25 pmI'm curious to know how the biolab theory got started. What is your proof that Zelenski is a Lucerferian?EvanLM wrote: ↑February 28th, 2022, 5:03 pm some of the news of Putin complaining was published in French newspapers . . . . sometimes I have to leave the US news to get some truth . . . fox News supplied some of this and the rest is being reported out of Ukraine . . .storm rider gives the value of the resources in Ukraine that can be taken by the cabal . . . check out Soros texts . . .what a liar and he tells us his own story and crimes . . .
Putin put out a map of hits ion a map and that is where he has hit . . .doesn't have a ground army in there yet . . but USA sent a missle to tase Putins planes down . . . no protection for the people . . .I was'nt surprised to see the people go underground . . . when those labs blow . . .then air is gonna be hard to breathe . .
just an hour ago the US embassy just removed all of their Ukraine biolab web documents . . . from the website . . just in the last day they removed all of the pdf files . . . reported by seargant news. . . america was their national headquarters for the activites. . . .
Ukraine is under control mostly by iluminati . . witha Lucerferian president who hand picked the parliament . . .largest money laundering country in the wolrd . . largest child trafficking
and . . Putinis only destroying their bio weapon labs . . . .
is anyones eyes getting opened yet? google it all . . . you';ll find newspaper articles and other news regarding what I have put here. . .
Putin invaded Ukraine on the same day or anniversary of the 2014 coup, Feb 22nd. What are the chances? Especially when he kept telling everyone that he didn't want to invade. These troops were simply doing an exercise on the border, he said. He obviously timed the invasion that way, so this is not a sudden response to a threat like a biolab leak which he could easily take care of through infiltration. This invasion has been planned for a long time.
Putin is likely moving on Ukraine like he is now, in order to create that enmity needed for a world war. He's ready now to be the villain to the West, before the West gets wrapped up in economic collapse, and wars in the Pacific and Middle East. The goal with those wars is to weaken the US military with conflict. But you need to have the American people wanting to fight. And right now a lot of them want to fight Putin. If suddenly Iran, a Russian ally, attacked Israel, and NK, also a Russian ally, attacked SK, there would be more support to go fighting, to conquer these crazy dictators and defend freedom. Putin's willing to be the bad guy because he already has the confidence that he and Xi would win in the end. If he were to wait to make a move on Ukraine until after it collapsed, he may not have the controlled oppositional support he knows he has within Ukraine right now (Apparently the Ukrainian Generals and Russian Generals are drinking buddies according to the propaganda video posted in another thread)
Zelenski is playing his part as well, encouraging the freedom fighters to give their lives. If Putin were to wait until Ukraine collapsed, it would require a different kind of war. He also needs to continue to build this narrative that the West is hurting him with sanctions and cutting off money and everything else, and so now Russia really is a victim.
When Putin cuts off oil to all of Europe, it will seem justified and reasonable in many people's eyes, because of all this drama of Europe punishing him. If he were to cut off oil to Europe out of the blue, even his sympathizers would have a hard time justifying that (because the US is the imperialist). So with this invasion of Ukraine, Europe is rallying against him, which will give him a reason to cut off their oil.
When Putin finally makes it to America after the collapse, the conservatives and patriots who have drunk deeply from his kool-aid will be happy to surrender to this moral, Christian, alpha-male and thank the Lord they've been delivered from anti-Christ Biden/Obama/Soros and the NWO socialists. But say goodbye to freedom and hello to a mob boss. Except we all know here in America we have a secret weapon to save our country and build up something great.![]()
Then, after you listen to her . . .get Trey Gowdy on Fox News interviewing Col Doug McGregor . . . .this Col will probably never be let back on Fox News because of his honesty . . . he speaks of the very thing that the people on this forum have opposed, yet it seems that the narrative has changed to demonize Putin . . . .hmmmm
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EvanLM
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Re: Ray McGovern and Scott Ritter on Ukraine crisis
when Pelosi says unfortunately for us . . .she isn't talking about the US . . she is talking about her secret combination . . . she is obvioulsy expecting Zelensky to stop the destructioin . . .the russian ground troops have surrounded the Ukranian people and are stopping them from taking down their planes . . . .
did you hear Jesse Walters mock them ? . . . he exposes Hunters licks on his back hinting at the trafickking of children . . . people are trying to take this secret combination covent down . . .
my opimion. . . .Putin literally is blackmailing Hillary, Kerry, Romney, Schift, and the other players in this lab weapon game . .. in other words. . .he is exposing their slush fund money laundering and crime markets out of Ukraine and the don't want to be found out and don't know what to do except put out counter propaganda on the truthers . . .
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did you hear Jesse Walters mock them ? . . . he exposes Hunters licks on his back hinting at the trafickking of children . . . people are trying to take this secret combination covent down . . .
my opimion. . . .Putin literally is blackmailing Hillary, Kerry, Romney, Schift, and the other players in this lab weapon game . .. in other words. . .he is exposing their slush fund money laundering and crime markets out of Ukraine and the don't want to be found out and don't know what to do except put out counter propaganda on the truthers . . .
more . . .US official: Russian invasion of Ukraine risks release of ...
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Feb 27, 2022 · US official: Russian invasion of Ukraine risks release of dangerous pathogens. Robert Pope, the director of the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, meets with Ukrainian officials. Credit: Defense Threat Reduction Agency. The Russian invasion of Ukraine may put at risk a network of US-linked labs in Ukraine that work with dangerous pathogens, said Robert
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Mar 02, 2022 · The Russian invasion of Ukraine may put at risk a network of US-linked labs in Ukraine that work with dangerous pathogens, said Robert Pope, the director of the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, a 30-year-old Defense Department program that has helped secure the former Soviet Union’s weapons of mass destruction and redirect former bioweapons facilities
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EvanLM
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Re: Ray McGovern and Scott Ritter on Ukraine crisis
Putin says he is trying to deNazi Ukraine . . . .he has upset NATO also . . . but mostly the gads who aren't going to help their gad buddies in Ukraine . . .just like a gang of thugs
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EvanLM
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ooooooooh, my . . . Sara, remember that you live on the promised land . . . I am pretty sure that Putin will wipe clean this continent if God allows but he will never, never never rule on this continent . . . Biden and gads are only making the US ripe for destruction . . .otherwise, God would have taken Biden off this earth . . .if we would only repent then we wouldn't have to walk through so much muck . . . When this current group of gads are smitten and wiped out by God . . .there will be NO GOVERNMENT
As soon as Putin goes for the saints directly . . .the elect righteous . . . he will be taken down by God . . . it's a promise in Isaiah . . . our lesson books and our teachings from the COJCLDS have been so guided and so limited, that by relying on only those limited teachings, we forget some of the most important parts of our day . . . almost as if they want to keep information from us. . .
I am sure that evil Putin will never rule here . . nor that demon Xi, . . . Biden will be gone soon as fast as we can repent . . . or as soon as the Lord has had enough . . .fuly ripe . . . I am sure God will just wipe this continent clean before he lets these evil leaders rule on his promised land
As soon as Putin goes for the saints directly . . .the elect righteous . . . he will be taken down by God . . . it's a promise in Isaiah . . . our lesson books and our teachings from the COJCLDS have been so guided and so limited, that by relying on only those limited teachings, we forget some of the most important parts of our day . . . almost as if they want to keep information from us. . .
I am sure that evil Putin will never rule here . . nor that demon Xi, . . . Biden will be gone soon as fast as we can repent . . . or as soon as the Lord has had enough . . .fuly ripe . . . I am sure God will just wipe this continent clean before he lets these evil leaders rule on his promised land
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EvanLM
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Re: Ray McGovern and Scott Ritter on Ukraine crisis
the NWO is being dismantled piece by piece . . .God is using his left hand . . .the wicked are beginning to destroy the wicked .. .
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EvanLM
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Re: Ray McGovern and Scott Ritter on Ukraine crisis
I think our gad group has made US vulnerable . . . and our addiction to entertainment . . . . we have stopped voting and praying and caring about our country . . . we don't even have a decent military . . Listen to that interview of the col . . .he speaks truthSarah wrote: ↑February 28th, 2022, 10:25 pmI'm curious to know how the biolab theory got started. What is your proof that Zelenski is a Lucerferian?EvanLM wrote: ↑February 28th, 2022, 5:03 pm some of the news of Putin complaining was published in French newspapers . . . . sometimes I have to leave the US news to get some truth . . . fox News supplied some of this and the rest is being reported out of Ukraine . . .storm rider gives the value of the resources in Ukraine that can be taken by the cabal . . . check out Soros texts . . .what a liar and he tells us his own story and crimes . . .
Putin put out a map of hits ion a map and that is where he has hit . . .doesn't have a ground army in there yet . . but USA sent a missle to tase Putins planes down . . . no protection for the people . . .I was'nt surprised to see the people go underground . . . when those labs blow . . .then air is gonna be hard to breathe . .
just an hour ago the US embassy just removed all of their Ukraine biolab web documents . . . from the website . . just in the last day they removed all of the pdf files . . . reported by seargant news. . . america was their national headquarters for the activites. . . .
Ukraine is under control mostly by iluminati . . witha Lucerferian president who hand picked the parliament . . .largest money laundering country in the wolrd . . largest child trafficking
and . . Putinis only destroying their bio weapon labs . . . .
is anyones eyes getting opened yet? google it all . . . you';ll find newspaper articles and other news regarding what I have put here. . .
Putin invaded Ukraine on the same day or anniversary of the 2014 coup, Feb 22nd. What are the chances? Especially when he kept telling everyone that he didn't want to invade. These troops were simply doing an exercise on the border, he said. He obviously timed the invasion that way, so this is not a sudden response to a threat like a biolab leak which he could easily take care of through infiltration. This invasion has been planned for a long time.
Putin is likely moving on Ukraine like he is now, in order to create that enmity needed for a world war. He's ready now to be the villain to the West, before the West gets wrapped up in economic collapse, and wars in the Pacific and Middle East. The goal with those wars is to weaken the US military with conflict. But you need to have the American people wanting to fight. And right now a lot of them want to fight Putin. If suddenly Iran, a Russian ally, attacked Israel, and NK, also a Russian ally, attacked SK, there would be more support to go fighting, to conquer these crazy dictators and defend freedom. Putin's willing to be the bad guy because he already has the confidence that he and Xi would win in the end. If he were to wait to make a move on Ukraine until after it collapsed, he may not have the controlled oppositional support he knows he has within Ukraine right now (Apparently the Ukrainian Generals and Russian Generals are drinking buddies according to the propaganda video posted in another thread)
Zelenski is playing his part as well, encouraging the freedom fighters to give their lives. If Putin were to wait until Ukraine collapsed, it would require a different kind of war. He also needs to continue to build this narrative that the West is hurting him with sanctions and cutting off money and everything else, and so now Russia really is a victim.
When Putin cuts off oil to all of Europe, it will seem justified and reasonable in many people's eyes, because of all this drama of Europe punishing him. If he were to cut off oil to Europe out of the blue, even his sympathizers would have a hard time justifying that (because the US is the imperialist). So with this invasion of Ukraine, Europe is rallying against him, which will give him a reason to cut off their oil.
When Putin finally makes it to America after the collapse, the conservatives and patriots who have drunk deeply from his kool-aid will be happy to surrender to this moral, Christian, alpha-male and thank the Lord they've been delivered from anti-Christ Biden/Obama/Soros and the NWO socialists. But say goodbye to freedom and hello to a mob boss. Except we all know here in America we have a secret weapon to save our country and build up something great.![]()
