Did Nelson tell the California Saints to flee to Missouri?

[Christianlee]

I heard they had a devotional for Californians. Did he tell them to flee to Missouri? Or to that development they are planning close to Disney World?

[InfoWarrior82]

Huh?

[Christianlee]

Huh?

Special devotional today for Left Coast Saints featuring RMN. A real prophet might say flee Babyfornia.

[CuriousThinker]

It was more of a "stay because this is where you belong".

[InfoWarrior82]

It was more of a "stay because this is where you belong".

All is well in Zion. Yea, Zion prospereth.

[Niemand]

I think he probably told them to flee to Manhattan, Geneva and Davos.

[Gadianton Slayer]

Flee to the temples. Because satan has no power where million dollar buildings are built.

[762X545]

Flee to the temples. Because satan has no power where million dollar buildings are built.

Then there is plenty of room in their fancy mall to house a lot of people.

[Gadianton Slayer]

Flee to the temples. Because satan has no power where million dollar buildings are built.

Then there is plenty of room in their fancy mall to house a lot of people.

Only if they pay their tithing and wear a mask.

[Alexander]

Flee to the temples. Because satan has no power where million dollar buildings are built.

"Satan's power is diminishing"

[Gadianton Slayer]

Flee to the temples. Because satan has no power where million dollar buildings are built.

"Satan's power is diminishing"

Highly ironic considering they perform satanic rituals in the temples.

[TheDuke]

Gad: I guess one of your experiences listed on the other thread will be you time doing SRA in a temple?

Please tell in detail.

his must be a Utah temple as we don't do any such thing in the Seattle temple, having worked there, I don't think they could have hid it from us. This statement shows a spirit and it isn't from GOD! (Well Father, Jesus or HG, maybe your god?)

[Christianlee]

Nelson apparently never tried buying a house or renting on the average family’s salary in Babyfornia.

[harakim]

Gad: I guess one of your experiences listed on the other thread will be you time doing SRA in a temple?

Please tell in detail.

his must be a Utah temple as we don't do any such thing in the Seattle temple, having worked there, I don't think they could have hid it from us. This statement shows a spirit and it isn't from GOD! (Well Father, Jesus or HG, maybe your god?)

What percentage of the temple have you been in? I think it would be pretty easy to hide it from the members.

[BuriedTartaria]

I heard they had a devotional for Californians. Did he tell them to flee to Missouri? Or to that development they are planning close to Disney World?

I could see him promoting their billion dollar Florida experiment. Zion isn't and doesn't need to come from a billion dollar controlled experiment. It spits in the face of God to honestly believe that His plan for a Zion-community takes an insane fortune to achieve.

[Gadianton Slayer]

Gad: I guess one of your experiences listed on the other thread will be you time doing SRA in a temple?

Please tell in detail.

his must be a Utah temple as we don't do any such thing in the Seattle temple, having worked there, I don't think they could have hid it from us. This statement shows a spirit and it isn't from GOD! (Well Father, Jesus or HG, maybe your god?)

I think your perspective on this is ridiculous. Not going to argue with you. Keep your eyes closed while you can.

People I know personally have been abused in temples. No, I don’t live in Utah.

[Gadianton Slayer]

What percentage of the temple have you been in? I think it would be pretty easy to hide it from the members.

Incredibly easy. Most members don’t even know that nearly every church building has a basement, and are conditioned in a way that they’d never suppose such an atrocity was being committed in holy place like the temps.

Commitment to the church must be justified somehow, often that includes denying that the church (and leaders) have gone off the path. Not just off the path, but are evil.

The covid situation alone has proven that those 15 men are vile.

[TheDuke]

I have only been in a few temples, but I know maybe 40 temple workers, I worked in a couple and I know a couple temple presidents. BTW, I don't really like the presidents as my kind of person, but they would never be involved in or let any one else be involved in any thing like is listed here.

I have been (its been a while for sure) in the presence of a prophets about 4-5 and apostles about 6-8 and they always exuded kindness and integrity. You could NEVER hide a satanic spirit, it would chase the Lord's spirit away. I don't know any of the current Q15 (don't want to) but if any of what is said, it would have to have happened in the last 15 or 20 years and the notes above try to point to long ago.

I'm not closing my eyes. I'm open to any and all truth. But, I will defend the rights of anyone, even those I disagree with, when being slandered w/o facts. And to be clear the spirit manifests the truth of what I'm saying right this second. It is ok to disagree with the leaders, and to leave them and to go away, and to point out weaknesses, but it is EVIL to speak evil of them w/o evidence. And as stated before what is provided is far from evidence, even in a liberal US court sense. But feel free to keep slinging mud, more mud you sling the deeper you sink until you are completely covered in it and cannot even remember cleanliness. Good day.

[Gadianton Slayer]

I don’t think you understand how mind control and split personalities work, Duke. Someone can be two completely different people in one body and switch between the them at the utterance of a phrase.

[Reluctant Watchman]

The Q15 teach false, anti-Christian doctrine. They also lie about many things. Oaks' recent flub was quite obvious with electroshock therapy. Which, btw, is a technique used in Mind control. Most of you old gents may never get over your cognitive dissonance.

[TheDuke]

Yes, so you can fool a person, but I'm pretty sure you cannot easily fool the Holy Ghost.

[Gadianton Slayer]

Yes, so you can fool a person, but I'm pretty sure you cannot easily fool the Holy Ghost.

But we are also not the HG. We make mistakes, and are not perfect in our judgment. I’ve thought that some people were amazing when it turned out that they have done horrific things.

A friend of mine is in jail right now for inappropriately touching a girl in his high school class, he was a teacher.

Why doesn’t the spirit always warn of things like that? Not sure. But just because you’ve met with some of those men and felt a warm tingly doesn’t mean anything.

[bbrown]

I have been (its been a while for sure) in the presence of a prophets about 4-5 and apostles about 6-8 and they always exuded kindness and integrity. You could NEVER hide a satanic spirit, it would chase the Lord's spirit away. I don't know any of the current Q15 (don't want to) but if any of what is said, it would have to have happened in the last 15 or 20 years and the notes above try to point to long ago.




First of all I hope most of the Californians don’t come to missouri. Californians fleeing california’s oppressiveness almost always bring California with them to their new home. We have enough coming from Chicago and the rest of Illinois who to a lesser degree do the same.

As to the above comment, evil people can absolutely hide their evil and appear to “have the spirit” for at least short periods of time such as the meetings you would have with a visiting authority. I personally know a few who were very evil men. Raping their wives and children and all manner of other abuse and general wickedness. One case the wife pleaded with the bishop and stake (he was on the high counsel) for help. They instead threatened her membership because they knew she was lying because “he taught so strongly with the spirit”. This of course made it worse. After a little while longer it escalated to the point the law got involved. Then it all came out. One or two kind of apologized to her after it was done but the damage was almost too much.
Another case a patriarch of a certain ethnic group in the stake was molesting all the grand kids in the chapel (he was the FM guy) They would “go to work with him” the grandma set things up. It was not known outside of the clan until after his death. There were whisperings and something wasn’t quite right but not enough to know what was up casually from outside. He was known for “praying with great faith and power”. He was personally praised and lauded on more than one occasion by both hinckley and monson and various others of the twelve for his great faith and righteousness. They felt the spirit when he prayed and spoke! “What an incredible example for the stake” evil evil evil. Yet the leaders local and other had now idea what darkness was in them. I don’t know about the current 15. I’m mostly uninterested in them. But I know that wickedness can be hidden and righteousness broadcast out.

[TheDuke]

need more discernment I guess, for some it is a gift, read about spiritual gifts. But, at least I said I'd felt a spirit around some of them and sure you can hide evil, but not in a spiritual setting, maybe at work or play or in a group, but not one-one one. At least not to those who have discernment. I guess some do and some don't, like D&C says.

[Robin Hood]

Does anyone know what was actually said?