The great deception - no real war in Ukraine

[itsmerich]

Hello Brothers and Sisters

Just like the VacSine we are seeing another massive conspiracy. Please keep an open mind.

ukraine has a formiddable army - for the news to say Russia has been "just at" Kiev for days is simply nonsense. It's near impossible to rush a country that's had months to fortify miles outside the city. If you study both armies it would be near impossible for Russia to roll into ukraine's capital or much of any other part of the country without intense loses.

Friends - I've looked at the so called footage - there should be overwhelming amounts of video coming out of the country with this so called massive invasion. Where is the front? where are all the tanks, apcs, infantry etc? It's not there.

Yes Russia sent missiles in and airstrikes on key areas but the invasion so far has been made up. They may have moved into those two regions but on a limited scale. Remember Ukraine is no push over country.

So what's going on? Well Russia has surgically hit many locations such as bio labs etc that the US has been setting up. Putin is no saint but he's not insane. He's very logical and reasonable (just watch any of his interviews). This phony "mass invasion" is all made up.

The powers that be have end games in sight they want putin to invade but he wont - he knows his limits. His military isn't that large - recall russia has about 150m in pop and has threats from multiple fronts including china - he has to guard them all - he cant leave those fronts unguarded -

I dont know the end game for the nWo with this - but what I think is happening is they're using this to get countries to rally against Putin and use this as justification to install more military equipment, ABM systems, possibly nukes (e.g. cloak it w/ chernobyl)
but with all the footage I've seen - there's so little action going on for a full scale war if you look at this logically and w/ discerning eyes you'll see we're being scammed.

there's more videos like this but here's something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoaBZms_KQo

guys look at this video of russian helicopters - where is the antiaircraft fire, missiles, soldiers firing from the ground, it's a joke/hoax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_mICDB_mAo&t=137s

remember who controls the media????

[gruden2.0]

There's an invasion for sure, but there are some oddities.

Take this:

https://twitter.com/MarioLeb79/status/1 ... 9937498118

Russian armored vehicle simply abandoned, no damage. It seems there are situations where the Russian military has insufficient food & fuel. How could this be, at the very beginning of an invasion with short supply lines?

If you continue scrolling down there's more videos, some showing apparent Ukraine victories. This is certainly not a Russian version of Shock & Awe (at least not a good one). The Russians are invading, but after viewing what has been posted I'm questioning their intent for a quick victory. There's definitely something odd about this situation.

Meanwhile, with all the focus on Ukraine, not much attention is being paid to the Pacific region. Apparently the US has been sending lots of equipment and soldiers that way for the past month...

[itsmerich]

and a lot of the so called footage can easily be doctored (or showing combat footage from the border regions of the two break away provinces)

[tribrac]

I saw a picture of an 'injured' civilian, with a field dressing. I think I saw similar injuries and bandages while watching MASH, so it must legit.

[Ciams]

So, you don't want us to trust unsubstantiated videos and photos, which have some fog of war associated with them, and instead expect us to trust a virtually anonymous post on an internet forum. Got it.

[itsmerich]

Hello Brothers and Sisters

Just like the VacSine we are seeing another massive conspiracy. Please keep an open mind.

ukraine has a formiddable army - for the news to say Russia has been "just at" Kiev for days is simply nonsense. It's near impossible to rush a country that's had months to fortify miles outside the city. If you study both armies it would be near impossible for Russia to roll into ukraine's capital or much of any other part of the country without intense loses.

Friends - I've looked at the so called footage - there should be overwhelming amounts of video coming out of the country with this so called massive invasion. Where is the front? where are all the tanks, apcs, infantry etc? It's not there.

Yes Russia sent missiles in and airstrikes on key areas but the invasion so far has been made up. They may have moved into those two regions but on a limited scale. Remember Ukraine is no push over country.

So what's going on? Well Russia has surgically hit many locations such as bio labs etc that the US has been setting up. Putin is no saint but he's not insane. He's very logical and reasonable (just watch any of his interviews). This phony "mass invasion" is all made up.

The powers that be have end games in sight they want putin to invade but he wont - he knows his limits. His military isn't that large - recall russia has about 150m in pop and has threats from multiple fronts including china - he has to guard them all - he cant leave those fronts unguarded -

I dont know the end game for the nWo with this - but what I think is happening is they're using this to get countries to rally against Putin and use this as justification to install more military equipment, ABM systems, possibly nukes (e.g. cloak it w/ chernobyl)
but with all the footage I've seen - there's so little action going on for a full scale war if you look at this logically and w/ discerning eyes you'll see we're being scammed.

there's more videos like this but here's something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoaBZms_KQo

guys look at this video of russian helicopters - where is the antiaircraft fire, missiles, soldiers firing from the ground, it's a joke/hoax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_mICDB_mAo&t=137s
more -- https://www.bitchute.com/video/D5OzrzYSV8rs/

remember who controls the media????

[Juliet]

It must be a smokescreen for the antichrist's secret plans to make soccor the world sport. Death by guillotine can't come fast enough.

[Niemand]

There is a lot of fakery, but some people have still died and are suffering.

[Niemand]

There's an invasion for sure, but there are some oddities.

Take this:

https://twitter.com/MarioLeb79/status/1 ... 9937498118

Russian armored vehicle simply abandoned, no damage. It seems there are situations where the Russian military has insufficient food & fuel. How could this be, at the very beginning of an invasion with short supply lines?

This is a recurring theme in Russian military history. When the Cold War officially ended, Red Army troops and hardware were just effectively abandoned in East Germany etc.

Even during the Cold War their tanks were famous for running out of fuel. Some of them would even use vodka as a substitute because it was more regularly available.

I'm reading a book on the Soviet Afghan War with eyewitness testimonies. Among the claims was that they were flying in busts of Marx and Lenin into Kabul, often with no designated destination, but the soldiers themselves often had to share a mess tin with each other, and some of the nursing staff had such a bad diet they developed scurvy.

[Dave62]

There's an invasion for sure, but there are some oddities.

Take this:

https://twitter.com/MarioLeb79/status/1 ... 9937498118

Russian armored vehicle simply abandoned, no damage. It seems there are situations where the Russian military has insufficient food & fuel. How could this be, at the very beginning of an invasion with short supply lines?

This is a recurring theme in Russian military history. When the Cold War officially ended, Red Army troops and hardware were just effectively abandoned in East Germany etc.

Even during the Cold War their tanks were famous for running out of fuel. Some of them would even use vodka as a substitute because it was more regularly available.

I'm reading a book on the Soviet Afghan War with eyewitness testimonies. Among the claims was that they were flying in busts of Marx and Lenin into Kabul, often with no designated destination, but the soldiers themselves often had to share a mess tin with each other, and some of the nursing staff had such a bad diet they developed scurvy.

Hey Niemand, what's the name of the book? It sounds interesting.

[InfoWarrior82]

Yes, I've noticed lack of combat footage.

[InfoWarrior82]

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[Robin Hood]

Hello Brothers and Sisters

Just like the VacSine we are seeing another massive conspiracy. Please keep an open mind.

ukraine has a formiddable army - for the news to say Russia has been "just at" Kiev for days is simply nonsense. It's near impossible to rush a country that's had months to fortify miles outside the city. If you study both armies it would be near impossible for Russia to roll into ukraine's capital or much of any other part of the country without intense loses.

Friends - I've looked at the so called footage - there should be overwhelming amounts of video coming out of the country with this so called massive invasion. Where is the front? where are all the tanks, apcs, infantry etc? It's not there.

Yes Russia sent missiles in and airstrikes on key areas but the invasion so far has been made up. They may have moved into those two regions but on a limited scale. Remember Ukraine is no push over country.

So what's going on? Well Russia has surgically hit many locations such as bio labs etc that the US has been setting up. Putin is no saint but he's not insane. He's very logical and reasonable (just watch any of his interviews). This phony "mass invasion" is all made up.

The powers that be have end games in sight they want putin to invade but he wont - he knows his limits. His military isn't that large - recall russia has about 150m in pop and has threats from multiple fronts including china - he has to guard them all - he cant leave those fronts unguarded -

I dont know the end game for the nWo with this - but what I think is happening is they're using this to get countries to rally against Putin and use this as justification to install more military equipment, ABM systems, possibly nukes (e.g. cloak it w/ chernobyl)
but with all the footage I've seen - there's so little action going on for a full scale war if you look at this logically and w/ discerning eyes you'll see we're being scammed.

there's more videos like this but here's something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoaBZms_KQo

guys look at this video of russian helicopters - where is the antiaircraft fire, missiles, soldiers firing from the ground, it's a joke/hoax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_mICDB_mAo&t=137s

remember who controls the media????

You make interesting observations.

[Niemand]

There's an invasion for sure, but there are some oddities.

Take this:

https://twitter.com/MarioLeb79/status/1 ... 9937498118

Russian armored vehicle simply abandoned, no damage. It seems there are situations where the Russian military has insufficient food & fuel. How could this be, at the very beginning of an invasion with short supply lines?

This is a recurring theme in Russian military history. When the Cold War officially ended, Red Army troops and hardware were just effectively abandoned in East Germany etc.

Even during the Cold War their tanks were famous for running out of fuel. Some of them would even use vodka as a substitute because it was more regularly available.

I'm reading a book on the Soviet Afghan War with eyewitness testimonies. Among the claims was that they were flying in busts of Marx and Lenin into Kabul, often with no designated destination, but the soldiers themselves often had to share a mess tin with each other, and some of the nursing staff had such a bad diet they developed scurvy.

Hey Niemand, what's the name of the book? It sounds interesting.

It's got two titles "Boys in Zinc" and "Zinky Boys" (Original title = Цинковые мальчики - Tsinkovye malchiki,). They were called "zinky boys", because the Red Army flew them back in zinc coffins/caskets.

It's for my monthly book group, and I'm going to compliment the guy who suggested it... We have a couple of people in the group who are Cultural Marxist types, and they need something like this to try and shake them out of it. It's also highly relevant given Russia's recent actions, and the cackhanded retreat from Afghanistan by Biden & Co.

(The top one is the edition I'm reading. American ones will be different.)

When we think about Afghanistan we think of America’s long war – the forever war. We don’t think about the early days of the Afghan tragedy. We don’t think about the Soviet Union’s Vietnam. This is what Svetlana Alexievich’s book Boys in Zinc covers.

A work of documentary literature, the book weaves the testimonies of those affected by the war, to reveal the disturbing reality of an endeavour that rotted Soviet society. Importantly, it bypasses the narrative of the Soviet leadership that spoke of “our international duty, about defending our southern borders”; a Soviet leadership that sent their youth to die performing their “internationalist duty”. I don’t think any of the interviewees believe that after going through the war. When asked by a boy if the [Soviet] Union should be in Afghanistan, a nurse recounts “I was indignant. ‘If we weren’t there, the Americans would be’… As if I could prove that somehow”.

[gruden2.0]

This is a recurring theme in Russian military history. When the Cold War officially ended, Red Army troops and hardware were just effectively abandoned in East Germany etc.

Even during the Cold War their tanks were famous for running out of fuel. Some of them would even use vodka as a substitute because it was more regularly available.

I'm reading a book on the Soviet Afghan War with eyewitness testimonies. Among the claims was that they were flying in busts of Marx and Lenin into Kabul, often with no designated destination, but the soldiers themselves often had to share a mess tin with each other, and some of the nursing staff had such a bad diet they developed scurvy.

Yep, they really seem to suffer from incredible poor logistics systems. How a country with so much oil could run out of fuel for their armored vehicles is beyond understanding. In another forum someone posted this comment that seems pertinent:

If you recall when the Soviet Union fell, we all found out how hollow and shoddy the Russian system really is. They've never been very good militarily, and even the Spetsnaz are only equivalent to a U.S. combat battalion in skills, not generally even considered Special Forces. Russia is on the losing side here. Half the Russian forces are lost and just wandering around Ukraine, with the other half dead or pinned down. I have no doubt that the Ukrainian population will prevail militarily. Russia's only experience with urban combat is Chechnya and Syria, both of which kicked their @#$. Russia can bomb the hell out of a city, but as soon as they put ground forces in it's instant death for them. Russia can't "win" without air superiority which they're far from and won't get. Russia can't "win" without support at home, which is rapidly fading. Russia can't "win" without China's full and unwavering support, which just flipped because of incompetence even on Russia's doorstep. Putin does have his back to the wall, and this is where he's most dangerous around the nuclear options he has. All we can do is hope that there are some sane individuals in the Russian chain of command. This is where I do agree - this IS the most dangerous time regarding Putin - he sees he's going to lose everything.

[gruden2.0]

Yes, I've noticed lack of combat footage.

You'll see some in the twitter link I posted. This ZH article has some video clips posted. You can follow some of them to Twitter feeds which have more. It's happening, and it's a decidedly mixed bag for Russia.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... ve-resumes

[The Red Pill]

Just as with COVID, the deadly-jab, and the deadly NIH/CDC protocol of using Remdesivir in hospitals...

SOMEBODY'S LYING TO YOU...SOMETIMES LOT'S OF PEOPLE ARE LYING TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our job is to figure out the truth of the matter.

Personally...I don't pay ANY attention to the totally corrupt MSM or Federal Government that has lied about all things COVID for over two long years now.

Just because they are available and broadcasting "information"...DOESN'T mean it's worth anything.

Hint...cross those sources of information OFF your list.

[762X545]

Russia's military objective is much different than America's. America likes to destroy anything and everything then occupy the ground. Russia is doing something completely different. If you look at the limited intelligence that we are being given Russia is not destroying things outright. They are not carpet bombing. It appears as though when they make contact with Ukrainian forces they withdraw and encircle the forces until they are defeated or surrender. It's not a blitzkrieg type war that we are accustomed with. I don't believe that the Russians want to destroy and kill the Ukrainian citizenry.

[kirtland r.m.]

Ukraine says it destroyed Russian military convoy outside of Kyiv.https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... e-of-kyiv/Also post of The Lithuanian defense minister... a tally of Russian losses so far.

This is not the three and a half mile long column still heading towards Kyiv. Here is a satellite photo of it.https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 022-02-27/

[NeveR]

There's an invasion for sure, but there are some oddities.

Take this:

https://twitter.com/MarioLeb79/status/1 ... 9937498118

Russian armored vehicle simply abandoned, no damage. It seems there are situations where the Russian military has insufficient food & fuel. How could this be, at the very beginning of an invasion with short supply lines?

This is a recurring theme in Russian military history. When the Cold War officially ended, Red Army troops and hardware were just effectively abandoned in East Germany etc.

Even during the Cold War their tanks were famous for running out of fuel. Some of them would even use vodka as a substitute because it was more regularly available.

I'm reading a book on the Soviet Afghan War with eyewitness testimonies. Among the claims was that they were flying in busts of Marx and Lenin into Kabul, often with no designated destination, but the soldiers themselves often had to share a mess tin with each other, and some of the nursing staff had such a bad diet they developed scurvy.

Hey Niemand, what's the name of the book? It sounds interesting.

It's got two titles "Boys in Zinc" and "Zinky Boys" (Original title = Цинковые мальчики - Tsinkovye malchiki,). They were called "zinky boys", because the Red Army flew them back in zinc coffins/caskets.

It's for my monthly book group, and I'm going to compliment the guy who suggested it... We have a couple of people in the group who are Cultural Marxist types, and they need something like this to try and shake them out of it. It's also highly relevant given Russia's recent actions, and the cackhanded retreat from Afghanistan by Biden & Co.

(The top one is the edition I'm reading. American ones will be different.)

When we think about Afghanistan we think of America’s long war – the forever war. We don’t think about the early days of the Afghan tragedy. We don’t think about the Soviet Union’s Vietnam. This is what Svetlana Alexievich’s book Boys in Zinc covers.

A work of documentary literature, the book weaves the testimonies of those affected by the war, to reveal the disturbing reality of an endeavour that rotted Soviet society. Importantly, it bypasses the narrative of the Soviet leadership that spoke of “our international duty, about defending our southern borders”; a Soviet leadership that sent their youth to die performing their “internationalist duty”. I don’t think any of the interviewees believe that after going through the war. When asked by a boy if the [Soviet] Union should be in Afghanistan, a nurse recounts “I was indignant. ‘If we weren’t there, the Americans would be’… As if I could prove that somehow”.

Who's Svetlana Alexievitch?

[Niemand]

This is a recurring theme in Russian military history. When the Cold War officially ended, Red Army troops and hardware were just effectively abandoned in East Germany etc.

Even during the Cold War their tanks were famous for running out of fuel. Some of them would even use vodka as a substitute because it was more regularly available.

I'm reading a book on the Soviet Afghan War with eyewitness testimonies. Among the claims was that they were flying in busts of Marx and Lenin into Kabul, often with no designated destination, but the soldiers themselves often had to share a mess tin with each other, and some of the nursing staff had such a bad diet they developed scurvy.

Hey Niemand, what's the name of the book? It sounds interesting.

It's got two titles "Boys in Zinc" and "Zinky Boys" (Original title = Цинковые мальчики - Tsinkovye malchiki,). They were called "zinky boys", because the Red Army flew them back in zinc coffins/caskets.

It's for my monthly book group, and I'm going to compliment the guy who suggested it... We have a couple of people in the group who are Cultural Marxist types, and they need something like this to try and shake them out of it. It's also highly relevant given Russia's recent actions, and the cackhanded retreat from Afghanistan by Biden & Co.

(The top one is the edition I'm reading. American ones will be different.)

When we think about Afghanistan we think of America’s long war – the forever war. We don’t think about the early days of the Afghan tragedy. We don’t think about the Soviet Union’s Vietnam. This is what Svetlana Alexievich’s book Boys in Zinc covers.

A work of documentary literature, the book weaves the testimonies of those affected by the war, to reveal the disturbing reality of an endeavour that rotted Soviet society. Importantly, it bypasses the narrative of the Soviet leadership that spoke of “our international duty, about defending our southern borders”; a Soviet leadership that sent their youth to die performing their “internationalist duty”. I don’t think any of the interviewees believe that after going through the war. When asked by a boy if the [Soviet] Union should be in Afghanistan, a nurse recounts “I was indignant. ‘If we weren’t there, the Americans would be’… As if I could prove that somehow”.

Who's Svetlana Alexievitch?

The woman who wrote - or compiled - the book from various accounts.

[Being There]

Hello Brothers and Sisters

Just like the VacSine we are seeing another massive conspiracy. Please keep an open mind.

ukraine has a formiddable army - for the news to say Russia has been "just at" Kiev for days is simply nonsense. It's near impossible to rush a country that's had months to fortify miles outside the city. If you study both armies it would be near impossible for Russia to roll into ukraine's capital or much of any other part of the country without intense loses.

Friends - I've looked at the so called footage - there should be overwhelming amounts of video coming out of the country with this so called massive invasion. Where is the front? where are all the tanks, apcs, infantry etc? It's not there.

Yes Russia sent missiles in and airstrikes on key areas but the invasion so far has been made up. They may have moved into those two regions but on a limited scale. Remember Ukraine is no push over country.

So what's going on? Well Russia has surgically hit many locations such as bio labs etc that the US has been setting up. Putin is no saint but he's not insane. He's very logical and reasonable (just watch any of his interviews). This phony "mass invasion" is all made up.

The powers that be have end games in sight they want putin to invade but he wont - he knows his limits. His military isn't that large - recall russia has about 150m in pop and has threats from multiple fronts including china - he has to guard them all - he cant leave those fronts unguarded -

I dont know the end game for the nWo with this - but what I think is happening is they're using this to get countries to rally against Putin and use this as justification to install more military equipment, ABM systems, possibly nukes (e.g. cloak it w/ chernobyl)
but with all the footage I've seen - there's so little action going on for a full scale war if you look at this logically and w/ discerning eyes you'll see we're being scammed.

there's more videos like this but here's something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoaBZms_KQo

guys look at this video of russian helicopters - where is the antiaircraft fire, missiles, soldiers firing from the ground, it's a joke/hoax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_mICDB_mAo&t=137s

remember who controls the media????

exactly
"remember who controls the media????"

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"The MSM are brilliant at staging a version of the narrative they want

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"Despite the magazine falling out. The fact that he rested his finger on the trigger shows how much of an amateur he is."

"when their "President" is a Comedy Actor..
not much more can be expected from the Backup Dancers and their Props."

[OPMissionary]

Umm