Sealed portion of gold plates

[minuet1]

I wasn't sure where to post this, so stuck it here.

Question: Are there any references to when we'll get the sealed portion of the gold plates - meaning will we get thembefore Christ comes, or after?

[NoGreaterLove]

Yes, but I will have to find it. It kind of gives an order of things.

[LukeAir2008]

[minuet1]

Here's an answer to my own question:

Bruce R. McConkie weighed in on the subject as such:

“Sadly, the book is sealed; as contents are being kept from men in this day. Indeed, it is not even now in the possession of mortals; it was returned by Joseph Smith to Moroni, its divinely appointed custodian. Nor did even Joseph Smith either read or translate it. We know of no one among mortals since Mormon and Moroni who have known its contents. It was known among the Nephites during he nearly two hundred years of their Golden Era. But for the present, the book is kept bent us; only the portion upon which no seal was placed has been translated. Why are these plates of Mormon sealed? The answer is obvious. They contain spiritual truths beyond our present ability to receive. Milk must precede meat, and whenever men are offered more of the mysteries of the kingdom than they are prepared to receive, it affects them adversely.” (New Witness, p. 443.)

Regarding its contents, Elder McConkie also said:

“Of this much we are quite certain: when, during the Millennium, the sealed portion of the Book of Mormon is translated, it will give an account of life in preexistence; of the creation of all things; of the fall and the atonement and the Second Coming; of temple ordinances, in their fulness; of the ministry and mission of translated beings; of life in the spirit world, in both paradise and hot of the kingdoms of glory to be inhabited by resurrected being and many such like things.(”The Bible—A Sealed Book,” CES Address, August 1984.)

http://bookofmormononline.net/blog/the-sealed-portion/

[bobhenstra]

I believe those in Paradise have it because it's a Terrestrial Glory. I can hardly wait---

Bob

[ithink]

I wasn't sure where to post this, so stuck it here.

Question: Are there any references to when we'll get the sealed portion of the gold plates - meaning will we get thembefore Christ comes, or after?

Section 84 says we're (the church in general) under condemnation for not using what we already have. At the rate we are going, it seems that what we do have might be taken away and sealed up with that other portion, and we'll be given back the 10 commandments and the Law of Moses II since we obviously can't handle what we have.

This isn't pessimistic, it's the truth.

[ithink]

Here's an answer to my own question:

Bruce R. McConkie weighed in on the subject as such:

“Sadly, the book is sealed; as contents are being kept from men in this day. Indeed, it is not even now in the possession of mortals; it was returned by Joseph Smith to Moroni, its divinely appointed custodian. Nor did even Joseph Smith either read or translate it. We know of no one among mortals since Mormon and Moroni who have known its contents. It was known among the Nephites during he nearly two hundred years of their Golden Era. But for the present, the book is kept bent us; only the portion upon which no seal was placed has been translated. Why are these plates of Mormon sealed? The answer is obvious. They contain spiritual truths beyond our present ability to receive. Milk must precede meat, and whenever men are offered more of the mysteries of the kingdom than they are prepared to receive, it affects them adversely.” (New Witness, p. 443.)

Regarding its contents, Elder McConkie also said:

“Of this much we are quite certain: when, during the Millennium, the sealed portion of the Book of Mormon is translated, it will give an account of life in preexistence; of the creation of all things; of the fall and the atonement and the Second Coming; of temple ordinances, in their fulness; of the ministry and mission of translated beings; of life in the spirit world, in both paradise and hot of the kingdoms of glory to be inhabited by resurrected being and many such like things.(”The Bible—A Sealed Book,” CES Address, August 1984.)

http://bookofmormononline.net/blog/the-sealed-portion/

How does Bruce know all this if no mortal has read it? It's pure speculation.

Here's my speculation. Much of the sealed portion contains a history of the 400 years of righteousness of the Nephites, perhaps also the people of Enoch. That would include how they lived in such harmony, peace, and above all -- freedom, for so long.

I suggest that if we would all buckled down, we could get that sealed portion within 1 year. But I suspect we won't. Look at us here even on this forum, it's ridiculous. The amount of bickering and backbiting and slander and defamation of character from a few (you know who you are) and their dog against folks like CHH et al, is nearly beyond belief, especially from those that consider themselves Christians, let alone Latter Day (S)aints.

[Mark]

The amount of bickering and backbiting and slander and defamation of character from a few (you know who you are) and their dog against folks like CHH et al, is nearly beyond belief, especially from those that consider themselves Christians, let alone Latter Day (S)aints.

Friday night at the taproom
You come strollin' in
Your face was all lit up
With a big ol' stupid grin

We tried to sneak out the back
But you saw right through our plan
So we got the latest rundown why
You're God's gift to man


Let me get my boots on
Before you start your story
Then you can tell us how you got
The girls, the guts, the glory
Let me get my boots on
It's getting mighty deep
Let me get my boots on
Before I fall asleep



If you're looking for suckers
Go fish some other pond
There's fools out there
Who'll take your bait
Somewhere far beyond

Thanks so much for droppin' by
We love your keen advice
And if you think
We're fools like you
Well, you had best think twice

[shadow]

Alright stars and stripes, this one is for you...

You walked into the party
like you were walking on to a yacht
your hair strategically dipped below one eye
your scarf it was apricot
you had one eye in the mirror
as you watched yourself gavotte
and all the girls dreamed
that they'd be your partner
they'd be Mark's partner and

You're so vain
you probably think this song is about you
you're so vain
I'll bet you think this song is about you
don't you? don't you?

[Mark]

Stop trashing sweet baby James and go get braces on those buck teeth Carly.

[ithink]

The amount of bickering and backbiting and slander and defamation of character from a few (you know who you are) and their dog against folks like CHH et al, is nearly beyond belief, especially from those that consider themselves Christians, let alone Latter Day (S)aints.

Friday night at the taproom
You come strollin' in
Your face was all lit up
With a big ol' stupid grin

We tried to sneak out the back
But you saw right through our plan
So we got the latest rundown why
You're God's gift to man


Let me get my boots on
Before you start your story
Then you can tell us how you got
The girls, the guts, the glory
Let me get my boots on
It's getting mighty deep
Let me get my boots on
Before I fall asleep



If you're looking for suckers
Go fish some other pond
There's fools out there
Who'll take your bait
Somewhere far beyond

Thanks so much for droppin' by
We love your keen advice
And if you think
We're fools like you
Well, you had best think twice

If you feel you need to put some boots on Mark, go ahead. People need to put boots on at various times for various reasons, some to fill them themselves. And if you think I'm the smiler in the poem -- good, I'm happy for you, but I certainly don't share your sentiments, nor am I one of "the group" either, but evidently you by your own admission are -- boots and all.

[Mark]

If you feel you need to put some boots on Mark, go ahead. People need to put boots on at various times for various reasons, some to fill them themselves. And if you think I'm the smiler in the poem -- good, I'm happy for you, but I certainly don't share your sentiments, nor am I one of "the group" either, but evidently you are -- boots and all.

Does this mean you are going to pass on the BBQ mate? I was kind of anxious to see what one of you Canucks would bring to the party. Oh well.. You probable would have thrown water on the open flame pit and ruined the RM oysters anyway.

[jbalm]

I was kind of anxious to see what one of you Canucks would bring to the party.

I hear they eat horse meat.

[Mark]

I hear they eat horse meat.

That figures. It all comes clearer to me now JB. Thanks for the tip.

[ithink]

I was kind of anxious to see what one of you Canucks would bring to the party.

I hear they eat horse meat.

We don't. We eat fluffy bunnies, after we scorch them first.

And I'm not aware that I was invited to the party. If I was, I'm sure I'm not now.

[Wormwood]

2 Nephi 27:5 For behold, the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep. For behold, ye have closed your eyes, and ye have rejected the prophets; and your rulers, and the seers hath he covered because of your iniquity.
6 And it shall come to pass that the Lord God shall bring forth unto you the words of a book, and they shall be the words of them which have slumbered.
7 And behold the book shall be sealed; and in the book shall be a revelation from God, from the beginning of the world to the ending thereof.
8 Wherefore, because of the things which are sealed up, the things which are sealed shall not be delivered in the day of the wickedness and abominations of the people. Wherefore the book shall be kept from them.
9 But the book shall be delivered unto a man, and he shall deliver the words of the book, which are the words of those who have slumbered in the dust, and he shall deliver these words unto another;
10 But the words which are sealed he shall not deliver, neither shall he deliver the book. For the book shall be sealed by the power of God, and the revelation which was sealed shall be kept in the book until the own due time of the Lord, that they may come forth; for behold, they reveal all things from the foundation of the world unto the end thereof.
11 And the day cometh that the words of the book which were sealed shall be read upon the house tops; and they shall be read by the power of Christ; and all things shall be revealed unto the children of men which ever have been among the children of men, and which ever will be even unto the end of the earth.