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Navy Federal Credit Union is moving forward with a vaccine mandate.

https://theredamerican.com/2022/02/20/n ... accinated/

Are there any redpilled credit unions (or banks) out there that aren't participating in the scamdemic?

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Satoshi Nakamoto wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 6:47 pm Navy Federal Credit Union is moving forward with a vaccine mandate.

https://theredamerican.com/2022/02/20/n ... accinated/

Are there any redpilled credit unions (or banks) out there that aren't participating in the scamdemic?
Good luck...thanks for the link though in reference to one of mine!

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Satoshi Nakamoto wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 6:47 pm Navy Federal Credit Union is moving forward with a vaccine mandate.

https://theredamerican.com/2022/02/20/n ... accinated/

Are there any redpilled credit unions (or banks) out there that aren't participating in the scamdemic?
I haven't had a bank account in over 20 years. I do use banks to turn 20s into 100s, but I have no account. I do use a variety of debit cards. AmericanExpress Bluebird is my favorite as it has no fees. I can load or spend for free. Most debit cards give you the routing number as well as account number so you can deposit funds from someplace that pays you every month like your MLM program, affiliate programs etc. Spread things around so you are not dependent on any single one. Never load more onto a card than you will spend in 30 days in case you lose them all. Stash cash! Invest in things that are liquid and will not lose value like food, precious metals, crypto and things that increase in value.

Why would anyone want a bank?

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Why would anyone want a bank?
Amen. Especially now, and going forward, more than ever.

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I am about to accept a new job that is in California but I will be in SC. What ideas, suggestions do you have for going a no bank route?

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mes5464 wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 8:01 pm I am about to accept a new job that is in California but I will be in SC. What ideas, suggestions do you have for going a no bank route?
Ask your employer what their payment options are. They probably already do direct deposit. Give them the routing and account number of your debit card. PayPal debit card (Not PayPal account) charges $4 a month, but they accept direct deposits from most anywhere. It is accepted anywhere that takes MasterCard. If they mail you a check, Walmart cashes most checks for a very small fee. Just pretend you went to Starbucks and left without your drink.

Buy your fuel at the truck stop where it is cheaper anyway, and offer to buy their 100s. They gladly take 50 20s for 10 100s. Sometimes you can only trade for 2 or 3 but, they like it. Saves them a trip to the bank.

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I found the Bluebird you talked about. I am just trying to avoid the unconstitutional searches of the IRS. I think I will start keeping more cash at home. The only utility I will have is an electric bill and I can pay that in person. I'm feeling really good about getting out of the banking system.

Thanks Fred

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mes5464 wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 8:58 pm I found the Bluebird you talked about. I am just trying to avoid the unconstitutional searches of the IRS. I think I will start keeping more cash at home. The only utility I will have is an electric bill and I can pay that in person. I'm feeling really good about getting out of the banking system.

Thanks Fred
Cash is king. When people get desperate, they have fire sales. Same with divorces. I got a house for free one time from a guy that would have lost it if I didn't assume his loan. I still had to pay for it but I got several years worth of equity.

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Fred wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 9:52 pm
mes5464 wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 8:58 pm I found the Bluebird you talked about. I am just trying to avoid the unconstitutional searches of the IRS. I think I will start keeping more cash at home. The only utility I will have is an electric bill and I can pay that in person. I'm feeling really good about getting out of the banking system.

Thanks Fred
Cash is king. When people get desperate, they have fire sales. Same with divorces. I got a house for free one time from a guy that would have lost it if I didn't assume his loan. I still had to pay for it but I got several years worth of equity.
Cash is king, until it isn’t. Remember our currency is only as good as our faith in its issuer, and once that faith is gone, so is the value of all the cash you stash in your mattress.

There is no good way out of banking for the Westernized mind. The best way out of the banking system is to accept at face value what Christ taught, which is that God will provide for your needs, as they are needed. Once you accept this you see very clearly there is no need for banks…

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endlessismyname wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 10:12 pm
Fred wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 9:52 pm
mes5464 wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 8:58 pm I found the Bluebird you talked about. I am just trying to avoid the unconstitutional searches of the IRS. I think I will start keeping more cash at home. The only utility I will have is an electric bill and I can pay that in person. I'm feeling really good about getting out of the banking system.

Thanks Fred
Cash is king. When people get desperate, they have fire sales. Same with divorces. I got a house for free one time from a guy that would have lost it if I didn't assume his loan. I still had to pay for it but I got several years worth of equity.
Cash is king, until it isn’t. Remember our currency is only as good as our faith in its issuer, and once that faith is gone, so is the value of all the cash you stash in your mattress.

There is no good way out of banking for the Westernized mind. The best way out of the banking system is to accept at face value what Christ taught, which is that God will provide for your needs, as they are needed. Once you accept this you see very clearly there is no need for banks…
Well, of course you are 100% wrong about getting out of banking. Of course God will continue to provide for my needs. Duh! Accepting this even allows you to see that there is no need for a bank. Jesus didn't use a bank. He is my example. So why should I?

Cash is king right now. I went to a Maceys last week and bought every can of storage food they had except for the powdered milk and powdered eggs. They had someone help me out with the carts. I figure that was a pretty good investment. I can't eat the money. But I sure can eat what it buys. Money is not going to be dead right away. I'll keep some on hand. I can use it to buy things that will triple or more in value. Unlike putting money in a bank.

I don't know why you have to be such a hard arse towards me. What in the hell did I ever do to you?

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Fred wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 7:02 pm Why would anyone want a bank?
Unfortunately in my part of the world you have to have one. If you get paid in cash, the authorities treat you like a criminal. Ditto paying for things in large amounts of cash. The tax authorities don't even like it when you pay them in tax. I don't know anywhere that pays salaries (as opposed to wages) in cash.)

I tend to agree with you, but it's really not my choice. We've been forced into it. And yes, I can see how it directly leads into the Beast system.

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Niemand wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 5:34 am
Fred wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 7:02 pm Why would anyone want a bank?
Unfortunately in my part of the world you have to have one. If you get paid in cash, the authorities treat you like a criminal. Ditto paying for things in large amounts of cash. The tax authorities don't even like it when you pay them in tax. I don't know anywhere that pays salaries (as opposed to wages) in cash.)

I tend to agree with you, but it's really not my choice. We've been forced into it. And yes, I can see how it directly leads into the Beast system.
When I eat at a restaurant, I never leave a tip when paying by card. I always pay the tip in cash. If I leave $10 in cash, the waitress gets to keep the whole ten bucks. But if I put it on a card, she may only get half depending on her tax bracket. Paying a tip with a card is like telling Biden I love him, which I do not.

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endlessismyname wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 10:12 pm Cash is king, until it isn’t. Remember our currency is only as good as our faith in its issuer, and once that faith is gone, so is the value of all the cash you stash in your mattress.

There is no good way out of banking for the Westernized mind. The best way out of the banking system is to accept at face value what Christ taught, which is that God will provide for your needs, as they are needed. Once you accept this you see very clearly there is no need for banks
I agree with this but could you please elaborate, how do I do this?

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I have been researching this topic and there is a lot on it. The term, apparently, is unbanking. Here is one article on the subject.

3 Simple Steps To Surviving Without A Bank Account - Off The Grid News

Three excellent cards you can get without a good credit score include:

AccountNow is a Visa debit card. It has an $8 a month fee, which is cheaper than most bank accounts. You can direct deposit your salary with it and even pay bills. It will actually send out checks to credit card companies, utilities, etc., and make some electronic payments. You can deposit cash in it electronically from any bank account. A big advantage to this card is that you can use it at almost any retail store. Money can also be wired to it.

Bluebird is a similar product to AccountNow that is offered by American Express and Walmart. Money can be loaded to it at any Walmart store, and electronic bill payment is available. Funds can also be deposited from any bank account. It offers many features similar to bank accounts, including online account management and bill payment. A disadvantage is that it is an American Express card, so many merchants don’t take it. Another drawback for rural residents is that American Express will not ship it to P.O. boxes. You will need to have a street address as your mailing address. The fact that Walmart is offering this product is pretty frightening. The retail giant has obviously concluded that large numbers of Americans are going to be without bank accounts in the near future and is moving to take advantage.

PayPal Debit cards. If you have a PayPal account, there is a debit card available. No credit check is needed. You will only be able to spend the funds in your PayPal account with it. One advantage to this is that you can use funds generated by your online business at stores and get cash. PayPal and Discover are also developing a more sophisticated variety.

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mes5464 wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 12:02 pm I have been researching this topic and there is a lot on it. The term, apparently, is unbanking. Here is one article on the subject.

3 Simple Steps To Surviving Without A Bank Account - Off The Grid News

Three excellent cards you can get without a good credit score include:

AccountNow is a Visa debit card. It has an $8 a month fee, which is cheaper than most bank accounts. You can direct deposit your salary with it and even pay bills. It will actually send out checks to credit card companies, utilities, etc., and make some electronic payments. You can deposit cash in it electronically from any bank account. A big advantage to this card is that you can use it at almost any retail store. Money can also be wired to it.

Bluebird is a similar product to AccountNow that is offered by American Express and Walmart. Money can be loaded to it at any Walmart store, and electronic bill payment is available. Funds can also be deposited from any bank account. It offers many features similar to bank accounts, including online account management and bill payment. A disadvantage is that it is an American Express card, so many merchants don’t take it. Another drawback for rural residents is that American Express will not ship it to P.O. boxes. You will need to have a street address as your mailing address. The fact that Walmart is offering this product is pretty frightening. The retail giant has obviously concluded that large numbers of Americans are going to be without bank accounts in the near future and is moving to take advantage.

PayPal Debit cards. If you have a PayPal account, there is a debit card available. No credit check is needed. You will only be able to spend the funds in your PayPal account with it. One advantage to this is that you can use funds generated by your online business at stores and get cash. PayPal and Discover are also developing a more sophisticated variety.
Using a PO Box has it's drawbacks, but most can be worked around. For instance the postmaster told me to use the address of the post office itself and use apt or suite number whatever your box number is.

Some banks hate American Express and so charge their customers a higher rate to accept the card. Just stop going to those places. There aren't very many. Really. Bluebird is actually a credit card. If you select debit at checkout, the card will decline. Most places no longer ask.

PayPal account cards are for your PayPal account only. But if you go to Walmart and find the rack with a hundred different debit cards on it and choose the one that says PayPal, this card has absolutely NOTHING to do with your PayPal account. A PayPal account is not even required. It is a debit card only. But I have found that they are very liberal in accepting direct deposit sources. It is my second favorite card.

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mes5464 wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 12:02 pm I have been researching this topic and there is a lot on it. The term, apparently, is unbanking. Here is one article on the subject.

3 Simple Steps To Surviving Without A Bank Account - Off The Grid News

Three excellent cards you can get without a good credit score include:

AccountNow is a Visa debit card. It has an $8 a month fee, which is cheaper than most bank accounts. You can direct deposit your salary with it and even pay bills. It will actually send out checks to credit card companies, utilities, etc., and make some electronic payments. You can deposit cash in it electronically from any bank account. A big advantage to this card is that you can use it at almost any retail store. Money can also be wired to it.

Bluebird is a similar product to AccountNow that is offered by American Express and Walmart. Money can be loaded to it at any Walmart store, and electronic bill payment is available. Funds can also be deposited from any bank account. It offers many features similar to bank accounts, including online account management and bill payment. A disadvantage is that it is an American Express card, so many merchants don’t take it. Another drawback for rural residents is that American Express will not ship it to P.O. boxes. You will need to have a street address as your mailing address. The fact that Walmart is offering this product is pretty frightening. The retail giant has obviously concluded that large numbers of Americans are going to be without bank accounts in the near future and is moving to take advantage.

PayPal Debit cards. If you have a PayPal account, there is a debit card available. No credit check is needed. You will only be able to spend the funds in your PayPal account with it. One advantage to this is that you can use funds generated by your online business at stores and get cash. PayPal and Discover are also developing a more sophisticated variety.
Let's say I'm a trucker in Canada - my bank accounts frozen by Trudeau.
Can I still use my PayPal Debit card, or a Bluebird card?

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mes5464 wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 8:16 am
endlessismyname wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 10:12 pm Cash is king, until it isn’t. Remember our currency is only as good as our faith in its issuer, and once that faith is gone, so is the value of all the cash you stash in your mattress.

There is no good way out of banking for the Westernized mind. The best way out of the banking system is to accept at face value what Christ taught, which is that God will provide for your needs, as they are needed. Once you accept this you see very clearly there is no need for banks
I agree with this but could you please elaborate, how do I do this?
I can tell you what I’ve done but I’m not sure it would apply to your situation. I’ve made my decisions based on some very specific promises given to me in my patriarchal blessing. And then, even with those promises it’s taken me years to develop the faith sufficient to move forward (I’m stubborn like that).

The overall pattern for me, I would say, is to use the bank for nothing but receiving and sending cash that’s not easy to move in any other way. If the cash doesn’t need to be in there, I get it out and I convert it to something I consider more valuable.

A cashless economy is coming. It might not even be in my lifetime, but I want to be prepared for the day it arrives. So the question I often ask myself is, “if cash disappeared tomorrow, what would people find valuable?”. And then I invest in that.

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BroJones wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 4:55 pm
mes5464 wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 12:02 pm I have been researching this topic and there is a lot on it. The term, apparently, is unbanking. Here is one article on the subject.

3 Simple Steps To Surviving Without A Bank Account - Off The Grid News

Three excellent cards you can get without a good credit score include:

AccountNow is a Visa debit card. It has an $8 a month fee, which is cheaper than most bank accounts. You can direct deposit your salary with it and even pay bills. It will actually send out checks to credit card companies, utilities, etc., and make some electronic payments. You can deposit cash in it electronically from any bank account. A big advantage to this card is that you can use it at almost any retail store. Money can also be wired to it.

Bluebird is a similar product to AccountNow that is offered by American Express and Walmart. Money can be loaded to it at any Walmart store, and electronic bill payment is available. Funds can also be deposited from any bank account. It offers many features similar to bank accounts, including online account management and bill payment. A disadvantage is that it is an American Express card, so many merchants don’t take it. Another drawback for rural residents is that American Express will not ship it to P.O. boxes. You will need to have a street address as your mailing address. The fact that Walmart is offering this product is pretty frightening. The retail giant has obviously concluded that large numbers of Americans are going to be without bank accounts in the near future and is moving to take advantage.

PayPal Debit cards. If you have a PayPal account, there is a debit card available. No credit check is needed. You will only be able to spend the funds in your PayPal account with it. One advantage to this is that you can use funds generated by your online business at stores and get cash. PayPal and Discover are also developing a more sophisticated variety.
Let's say I'm a trucker in Canada - my bank accounts frozen by Trudeau.
Can I still use my PayPal Debit card, or a Bluebird card?
Unless an account is specifically frozen. It is not. Each card is handled by a different bank.

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The Bluebird card also allows you to send money to anyone on earth as long as they pick it up at any walmart on earth. Walmart itself offers moneygram which can send money to anyone in any country.

Walmart applied to be a bank but was denied. They pretty well offer every service though except bank to bank wire transfer. They even cash checks and offer money orders.

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Fred wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 5:21 pm The Bluebird card also allows you to send money to anyone on earth as long as they pick it up at any walmart on earth. Walmart itself offers moneygram which can send money to anyone in any country.

Walmart applied to be a bank but was denied. They pretty well offer every service though except bank to bank wire transfer. They even cash checks and offer money orders.
Can a Soc Sec check be direct-deposited at Walmart?
Would I trust them with these funds...? I wonder, why should I?..
I don't trust banks much anymore.

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PS - out local Great Western Bank was just "taken over" by First Interstate Bank... and that worries me

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BroJones wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 5:28 pm
Fred wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 5:21 pm The Bluebird card also allows you to send money to anyone on earth as long as they pick it up at any walmart on earth. Walmart itself offers moneygram which can send money to anyone in any country.

Walmart applied to be a bank but was denied. They pretty well offer every service though except bank to bank wire transfer. They even cash checks and offer money orders.
Can a Soc Sec check be direct-deposited at Walmart?
Would I trust them with these funds...? I wonder, why should I?..
I don't trust banks much anymore.
Almost ALL debit cards allow direct deposit of government checks. They make sure you know how to do it and send instructions via email regularly.

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endlessismyname wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 10:12 pm ...

A cashless economy is coming. It might not even be in my lifetime, but I want to be prepared for the day it arrives. So the question I often ask myself is, “if cash disappeared tomorrow, what would people find valuable?”. And then I invest in that.
I'm curious as I'm in process of reappropriating funds right now. Could you give some examples of things that you invest in?
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mes5464 wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 8:01 pm I am about to accept a new job that is in California but I will be in SC. What ideas, suggestions do you have for going a no bank route?

Oh boy..!
I am a resident of Nevada, with no income tax, but worked last year for a California company.

Really annoying I had $385 taken out of every paycheck for Cali taxes, and had to file a state return to get some (not all) back.

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Dusty Wanderer wrote: February 23rd, 2022, 8:02 pm
endlessismyname wrote: February 22nd, 2022, 10:12 pm ...

A cashless economy is coming. It might not even be in my lifetime, but I want to be prepared for the day it arrives. So the question I often ask myself is, “if cash disappeared tomorrow, what would people find valuable?”. And then I invest in that.
I'm curious as I'm in process of reappropriating funds right now. Could you give some examples of things that you invest in?
Anything and everything that makes me as self sufficient as possible. And/or is something I believe people will want/need when it all falls apart.

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