NEW MASK GUIDANCE FROM FP

[Subcomandante]

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This should have been the guidance from the beginning, with the same modification shown for the discretion of the Area Presidencies and Stake Presidencies, applied to the temples.

I am glad to see that change as relating to local meetings. The use of masks should always have been left at the discretion of the local authorities considering they would know the conditions on the ground much better than the general leadership.

Use of masks should never have been suggested.

Definitely not from the top down. But there were places outside the United States where they were absolutely required; there were heavy fines in a few cases for noncompliance.

This is why I said this should have been a LOCAL approach instead of a TOP-DOWN, GENERAL approach, keeping in mind the local laws of different regions. I think bishops and stake presidents are more than smart enough to observe the local conditions to make the determinations, after consulting with the Area Presidency about them.

[CuriousThinker]

So, if I have a bishop or stake president who love masks they are allowed to force me to wear one if I am going to attend church? That is not right. They should not get that kind of power over their congregation/stake.

[kittycat51]

This must have bothered me more on my subconscious level than I realized. I had a dream last night that we were being FORCED to wear masks at Church. I remember screaming out in my dream, EVIL, DEVIL WORSHIPERS, and I WILL NOT COMPLY. I must have actually gotten vocal, (which I am known for) because my husband this morning asked WHAT I was dreaming about!

[FoundMyEden]

I'm not taking any chances. I'm even writing to the dairy that produces our milk and butter to making sure the cows have had their triple cofid shots and were masked up while milking.
We need to insist all our farm products come from fully masked and jabbed animals. I'm still trying to figure out what can be done do about honeybees.

They come built-in w/ their own needles. Just juice them up and let 'em go.

Just ask BGates...I heard he was one step ahead with the mosquitos.

[Subcomandante]

"local customs"--WHERE in the USA do "local customs" include wearing a mask, especially before Covid?? Nowhere.

East and Southeast Asia, and other parts where there is a lot of airborne contamination. Masks have been a thing there since LONG before COVID, especially during the winter months.

Literally 40% of the world lives there.

(Added edit: Japan: https://web-japan.org/trends/11_culture ... lture.html)
(Added edit 2: China and South Korea: https://www.voanews.com/a/science-healt ... 86770.html)

[Reluctant Watchman]

"local customs"--WHERE in the USA do "local customs" include wearing a mask, especially before Covid?? Nowhere.

East and Southeast Asia, and other parts where there is a lot of airborne contamination. Masks have been a thing there since LONG before COVID, especially during the winter months.

Literally 40% of the world lives there.

(Added edit: Japan: https://web-japan.org/trends/11_culture ... lture.html)
(Added edit 2: China and South Korea: https://www.voanews.com/a/science-healt ... 86770.html)

Which means they've had decades more conditioning.

[Moosier]

Do you think when they say "...and other protective measures...", they are modifying their "urging" on the shot?

[CuriousThinker]

"local customs"--WHERE in the USA do "local customs" include wearing a mask, especially before Covid?? Nowhere.

East and Southeast Asia, and other parts where there is a lot of airborne contamination. Masks have been a thing there since LONG before COVID, especially during the winter months.

Literally 40% of the world lives there.

(Added edit: Japan: https://web-japan.org/trends/11_culture ... lture.html)
(Added edit 2: China and South Korea: https://www.voanews.com/a/science-healt ... 86770.html)

True, but the masks were never imposed. People chose to wear them due to smog among other things. Bishops weren't forcing whole congregations to wear them, from what I have heard.

[Subcomandante]

"local customs"--WHERE in the USA do "local customs" include wearing a mask, especially before Covid?? Nowhere.

East and Southeast Asia, and other parts where there is a lot of airborne contamination. Masks have been a thing there since LONG before COVID, especially during the winter months.

Literally 40% of the world lives there.

(Added edit: Japan: https://web-japan.org/trends/11_culture ... lture.html)
(Added edit 2: China and South Korea: https://www.voanews.com/a/science-healt ... 86770.html)

True, but the masks were never imposed. People chose to wear them due to smog among other things. Bishops weren't forcing whole congregations to wear them, from what I have heard.

You're right about that. My objection to Johnny's post was NOT that there was obligatory mask-wearing, but that nowhere were masks prevalent pre-Covid.

This is what the local customs are referring to here. East and Southeast Asia have for a long time generally worn masks during the winter and early spring to protect against pollution and allergies. The Church has gotten stronger in that area over the years.

[Silver Pie]

Do you think when they say "...and other protective measures...", they are modifying their "urging" on the shot?

I am sure that the shots are part of "other protective measures" in their minds.

[EvanLM]

how much money are they getting paid to keep the mask mandates going in the temples? . . . a lot of posters have provided on this forum, the reason for changes with the governments changing mandates . . . losts of videos with lawyers telling us they are suing . . . hmmmmmm prayers? probably worried about lawsuits . . .but the temples are exclusive so no worry . . .

[Durzan]

Honestly probably not much if any at all...

[madvin]

They are going to continue to roll out mandates because many believe that the virus is contagious and dangerous and has varients.

https://odysee.com/@DrAndrewKaufman:f/T ... nIckonic:5

[madvin]

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I don't like the sentiment that the reason for loosening the mask wearing is due to "the Lord hearing the prayers" of the members. I expect we will see eventually mandates back off for everything with covid and the covidians will declare it to because of their wise and thoughtful measures they took to defeat covid. In reality, the virus has mostly taken its course, burned through the population, like just about all viruses do, and eventually peters out. But no, it's really due to all the social distancing, mask-wearing, and vaccines that they good people did (which the bad people opposed).

There is no virus contagion.

[madvin]

"local customs"--WHERE in the USA do "local customs" include wearing a mask, especially before Covid?? Nowhere.

East and Southeast Asia, and other parts where there is a lot of airborne contamination. Masks have been a thing there since LONG before COVID, especially during the winter months.

Literally 40% of the world lives there.

(Added edit: Japan: https://web-japan.org/trends/11_culture ... lture.html)
(Added edit 2: China and South Korea: https://www.voanews.com/a/science-healt ... 86770.html)

Not in the way you may be thinking. There is no virus, but there are pollutants and there is electro magnetic pollution, neither of which will be prevented by mask wearing.

[madvin]

FP: God, is it safe to end the masks yet?
God: I don't know. Ask Dr. Fauci or Joe Biden.

Might as well have been the conversation, since the brethren get all their info from 4 newspapers, such as NY Slimes and LA Crimes, as well as alphabet news stations.

[EvanLM]

there is NO covid 19 . . .it is a list of symptoms . . never been isolated, discovered or seen, cuz . . . it doesn't exist . . .it is a made up lie . . . made up name with some symptoms . . .hmmmm . . . listed in a letter by a prophet that is supposed to get revelation . . . a doctor that has been to medical school . . .masks don't work . . .

it is not airborne . . .it is a bio weapon that is only picked up through food, aerosols, or skin . . it is NOT air borne. . .no virus is airborne, for that matter, for example. . . HIV. . . SArs . . NOT AIRBORNE . . . polio, etc. not airborne . . so no need for masks

[EvanLM]

FP: God, is it safe to end the masks yet?
God: I don't know. Ask Dr. Fauci or Joe Biden.

Might as well have been the conversation, since the brethren get all their info from 4 newspapers, such as NY Slimes and LA Crimes, as well as alphabet news stations.

perhaps they could try Spirit of Christ or Holy Ghost or Direct Revelation . . . . those are usually pretty reliable newspapers or communications

[EvanLM]

"local customs"--WHERE in the USA do "local customs" include wearing a mask, especially before Covid?? Nowhere.

East and Southeast Asia, and other parts where there is a lot of airborne contamination. Masks have been a thing there since LONG before COVID, especially during the winter months.

Literally 40% of the world lives there.

(Added edit: Japan: https://web-japan.org/trends/11_culture ... lture.html)
(Added edit 2: China and South Korea: https://www.voanews.com/a/science-healt ... 86770.html)

Not in the way you may be thinking. There is no virus, but there are pollutants and there is electro magnetic pollution, neither of which will be prevented by mask wearing.

another list of symptoms that we need to find the source of . . .maybe electro, maybe something else. . . but yet, just a list of symptoms

[EvanLM]

in the documentation of the experiments on bats from Wuhan lab then they were unsuccessful in getting the virus to transfer through air borne. . . in other words, the sick bats could not spread it to any other animal or human through airborne delivery . . . the only way the scientists and doctors could spread this bio weapon that our prophet calls covid is to deliver it to bats and other animals through the skin, or by aerosols or by food

[EvanLM]

Honestly probably not much if any at all...

school districts, states, and hospitals, some doctors, etc are all getting paid . . don't know who else might be profiting from this fake pandemic by spreading the lies or responding to the chaos created . . . these are the only ones I've actually seen documented. . .

[Subcomandante]

"local customs"--WHERE in the USA do "local customs" include wearing a mask, especially before Covid?? Nowhere.

East and Southeast Asia, and other parts where there is a lot of airborne contamination. Masks have been a thing there since LONG before COVID, especially during the winter months.

Literally 40% of the world lives there.

(Added edit: Japan: https://web-japan.org/trends/11_culture ... lture.html)
(Added edit 2: China and South Korea: https://www.voanews.com/a/science-healt ... 86770.html)

Not in the way you may be thinking. There is no virus, but there are pollutants and there is electro magnetic pollution, neither of which will be prevented by mask wearing.

If you look at the other post I made that point. It was principally a way to filter out pollutants and pollen, both of which the filtration systems of an N-95 type mask are very good at.

[JohnnyL]

Nowhere in the USA is it a local custom to wear masks, which means on that front, a congregation in the USA has a much higher chance of NOT having to wear masks than many other places.

During SARS, mask wearing was required for church attendance, and basically the whole gloves and sanitizer stuff for the sacrament, just not quite as drastic as this time.

[Subcomandante]

Nowhere in the USA is it a local custom to wear masks, which means on that front, a congregation in the USA has a much higher chance of NOT having to wear masks than many other places.

During SARS, mask wearing was required for church attendance, and basically the whole gloves and sanitizer stuff for the sacrament, just not quite as drastic as this time.

When SARS happened, I was recently baptized. I don't remember a mask requirement, unless of course, you were in Asia at the time.

[CuriousThinker]

Nowhere in the USA is it a local custom to wear masks, which means on that front, a congregation in the USA has a much higher chance of NOT having to wear masks than many other places.

During SARS, mask wearing was required for church attendance, and basically the whole gloves and sanitizer stuff for the sacrament, just not quite as drastic as this time.

Where was it required in the US during SARS? I have never seen a single mask in church before 2020.