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Salvific work for my ancestors continues to be stymied due to the prejudicial policies of these leaders. Sigh.
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Haven't they always "encouraged" following the local directives? How is this new?
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It boggles my mind that they still believe a cloth or paper square on the face will prevent a virus from escaping or being breathed in. Every single person on a session will come into contact with any viruses floating around, mask or no mask. Nelson and Renlund have to be the two most incompetent physicians ever.
Masks actually put people at risk, because some will go to the temple feeling like they may be getting sick, but assured they can’t spread a virus while wearing a mask.
Masks actually put people at risk, because some will go to the temple feeling like they may be getting sick, but assured they can’t spread a virus while wearing a mask.
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I’m not going to say too much until i I can let the emotions settle, but the temple policy is just a continuation of illogical, fear based policy making. Denying healthy, worthy members the opportunity to do the work of salvation is not sound decision making.
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Because for a long time the church has been following US guidelines as instructed by Biden.Korsgaard46 wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 10:51 am Haven't they always "encouraged" following the local directives? How is this new?
I presume this has been okayed by him.
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Praise the Lord! We now have permission to listen to our local health and government officials!
Whew, glad we cleared that up.
Whew, glad we cleared that up.
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Rereading this, it occurs to me that they have actually empowered Area Authorities to NOT comply with local regulations with the tacit approval of our ecclesiastical leaders.
In other words, my SP might say “I know the CDC says masks are not necessary, but we feel it’s still necessary”.
In other words, my SP might say “I know the CDC says masks are not necessary, but we feel it’s still necessary”.
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“Heard the prayers of so many”
More exclusionary language. Anybody here been praying that we wouldn’t be able to navigate the plandemic?
More exclusionary language. Anybody here been praying that we wouldn’t be able to navigate the plandemic?
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I’ve been saying this the whole time. They do not follow local guidelines. They go above the guidelines….The only places in my county I’m required to wear a mask is the hospital. No one but our church has been enforcing them.endlessismyname wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 11:08 am Rereading this, it occurs to me that they have actually empowered Area Authorities to NOT comply with local regulations with the tacit approval of our ecclesiastical leaders.
In other words, my SP might say “I know the CDC says masks are not necessary, but we feel it’s still necessary”.
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The language suggests that the direction provided regarding the pandemic was from the Lord Himself.
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Same here. Quite the shock when the only place I have to think about and fear a virus is in church.Mamabear wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 11:17 amI’ve been saying this the whole time. They do not follow local guidelines. They go above the guidelines….The only places in my county I’m required to wear a mask is the hospital. No one but our church has been enforcing them.endlessismyname wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 11:08 am Rereading this, it occurs to me that they have actually empowered Area Authorities to NOT comply with local regulations with the tacit approval of our ecclesiastical leaders.
In other words, my SP might say “I know the CDC says masks are not necessary, but we feel it’s still necessary”.
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“where our desire is to keep temples open”…
Their desire? What about the Lord’s desire for all worthy members to be able to worship in His house?
Hard to not feel like Wendy’s germaphobia doesn’t have something to do with “their desire”…
Their desire? What about the Lord’s desire for all worthy members to be able to worship in His house?
Hard to not feel like Wendy’s germaphobia doesn’t have something to do with “their desire”…
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I've been thinking about the guidance we've received over the past two years from our prophetic leaders.
When Covid hit, I thought that maybe God was using it as a call to repentance.
Luckily, we have the prophets, seers, and revelators to guide us through these trying times.
With this statement, as well as all of the previous statements from the church leaders regarding Covid, there is only one logical conclusion.
The sin we need to repent of is not trusting the government enough.
When Covid hit, I thought that maybe God was using it as a call to repentance.
Luckily, we have the prophets, seers, and revelators to guide us through these trying times.
With this statement, as well as all of the previous statements from the church leaders regarding Covid, there is only one logical conclusion.
The sin we need to repent of is not trusting the government enough.
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It's interesting the difference between a masked person and an unmasked person. The masked person continually adjusts and touches the mask, which has been accumulating a concentration of warm, exhaled air, full of any microbes or viruses the person may have. The constant touching and adjusting of the mask means their hands are now far more likely to carry whatever microbes the have than a non-masked person, who just exhales freely as God intended and designed the body to work. No constant contamination of the hands by people not wearing masks. It's so stupid and obvious that it's difficult to believe it's still being pushed.
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As a doctor, this has 100% been in my mind from the beginning. I specialize in anesthesia and have been up close and personal with the covid sick and afflicted from day 1. I'm an airway expert and have treated 100's of patients if not 1000's. I've intubated more than I care to count.....We have NEVER worn the masks that 99.9999% of the population wears. Not even close. We use PAPRs and N95's. Regular masks don't do anything at preventing infection or transmission. They do not help at all. ZERO. The studies had concluded this for years before covid. Talk about not "following the science". You might as well have a rabbit's foot in your pocket or wear a pair of lucky boots. The effect would be the same. My colleagues and I sit back and have been baffled at public health officials literally making it up, and the public swallows it up. The FP response to this pandemic has really been a head-scratcher to me. Does not make any sense to me.Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 10:52 am It boggles my mind that they still believe a cloth or paper square on the face will prevent a virus from escaping or being breathed in. Every single person on a session will come into contact with any viruses floating around, mask or no mask. Nelson and Renlund have to be the two most incompetent physicians ever.
Masks actually put people at risk, because some will go to the temple feeling like they may be getting sick, but assured they can’t spread a virus while wearing a mask.
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If you want to see this change you need to not remain silent. Decide that Truth is more important than comfort or the acceptance of people.
If you are sincere and you speak what you know to ve true then God will sustain you and you have nothing to fear.
It's OK to lose your job. It's OK to lose money. Its OK to lose friends. It's OK if people are angry at you for being yourself. It's OK if you lose membership in the Church. It's OK if you are never allowed in the temple for being genuine and true to yourself.
Nothing that can happen to you as a result of standing for freedom and being your genuine self is as bad as remaining silent and doing nothing when you know you should do something.
God will sustain His children.
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If you are sincere and you speak what you know to ve true then God will sustain you and you have nothing to fear.
It's OK to lose your job. It's OK to lose money. Its OK to lose friends. It's OK if people are angry at you for being yourself. It's OK if you lose membership in the Church. It's OK if you are never allowed in the temple for being genuine and true to yourself.
Nothing that can happen to you as a result of standing for freedom and being your genuine self is as bad as remaining silent and doing nothing when you know you should do something.
God will sustain His children.
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You still think that's what's going on in there?endlessismyname wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 10:57 am I’m not going to say too much until i I can let the emotions settle, but the temple policy is just a continuation of illogical, fear based policy making. Denying healthy, worthy members the opportunity to do the work of salvation is not sound decision making.
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I'm curious. As a doctor, have you shifted your focus to early treament with therapeutics?Halothane wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 11:36 amAs a doctor, this has 100% been in my mind from the beginning. I specialize in anesthesia and have been up close and personal with the covid sick and afflicted from day 1. I'm an airway expert and have treated 100's of patients if not 1000's. I've intubated more than I care to count.....We have NEVER worn the masks that 99.9999% of the population wears. Not even close. We use PAPRs and N95's. Regular masks don't do anything at preventing infection or transmission. They do not help at all. ZERO. The studies had concluded this for years before covid. Talk about not "following the science". You might as well have a rabbit's foot in your pocket or wear a pair of lucky boots. The effect would be the same. My colleagues and I sit back and have been baffled at public health officials literally making it up, and the public swallows it up. The FP response to this pandemic has really been a head-scratcher to me. Does not make any sense to me.Lizzy60 wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 10:52 am It boggles my mind that they still believe a cloth or paper square on the face will prevent a virus from escaping or being breathed in. Every single person on a session will come into contact with any viruses floating around, mask or no mask. Nelson and Renlund have to be the two most incompetent physicians ever.
Masks actually put people at risk, because some will go to the temple feeling like they may be getting sick, but assured they can’t spread a virus while wearing a mask.
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I’m simply trying to point out the lack of logic in their position. It doesn’t matter what I think about what’s going on in there.Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 11:48 amYou still think that's what's going on in there?endlessismyname wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 10:57 am I’m not going to say too much until i I can let the emotions settle, but the temple policy is just a continuation of illogical, fear based policy making. Denying healthy, worthy members the opportunity to do the work of salvation is not sound decision making.
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I agree the logic is confusing... but it doesn't matter a hill of beans if what they deem to be "salvation" is worth less than said hill.endlessismyname wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 11:57 amI’m simply trying to point out the lack of logic in their position. It doesn’t matter what I think about what’s going on in there.Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 11:48 amYou still think that's what's going on in there?endlessismyname wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 10:57 am I’m not going to say too much until i I can let the emotions settle, but the temple policy is just a continuation of illogical, fear based policy making. Denying healthy, worthy members the opportunity to do the work of salvation is not sound decision making.
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Different argument, but yes, you’re correct.Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 12:01 pmI agree the logic is confusing... but it doesn't matter a hill of beans if what they deem to be "salvation" is worth less than said hill.endlessismyname wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 11:57 amI’m simply trying to point out the lack of logic in their position. It doesn’t matter what I think about what’s going on in there.Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 11:48 amYou still think that's what's going on in there?endlessismyname wrote: ↑February 18th, 2022, 10:57 am I’m not going to say too much until i I can let the emotions settle, but the temple policy is just a continuation of illogical, fear based policy making. Denying healthy, worthy members the opportunity to do the work of salvation is not sound decision making.