Americans given time frame to leave Ukraine

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INTEL COMM CIRCUITS BLAZING: Claiming "Putin Gave the "Go" Order"


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Intelligence communications circuits worldwide are BLAZING with rapid developments in almost ALL European countries. Bear in mind that these Intelligence Community communications circuits only light up when info is so urgent, it cannot wait to go through normal means of communication.

According to several of my former colleagues - who allowed me to personally hear some of the extensive Intel chatter . . . which is described in the Subscriber area below . . .

Ukraine gives Kremlin 48 hours to explain Russian military activity near Ukrainian border

Kiev has requested Moscow provide an adequate explanation for Russian military activity near the border between the two countries within 48 hours, Ukraine’s Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said on Twitter on Feb. 11.

According to the minister, Ukraine has done so in accordance with the Vienna Mechanism, an agreement within the framework of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE).

“We have officially triggered the risk reduction mechanism in accordance with Chapter III of the Vienna Document, and requested Russia to provide detailed explanations on military activities in the areas adjacent to the territory of Ukraine and in the temporarily occupied Crimea,” said Kuleba.

He said that Russia now has to specify the exact areas where it is conducting military maneuvers and when they will conclude, in addition to the names, types, and command chain of the regiments involved.

“Russia has 48 hours to reply. In case of an absence of reply or its insufficiency/irrelevance, Ukraine will address Russia, as well as other participating states of the Vienna Document, in order to convene an extraordinary meeting where Russia will have to provide explanations,” the message said.

Ukraine will continue taking all diplomatic measures available to ensure its security, the minister added.

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The US demanding to know why Russia is moving troops around their border is akin to them asking us why we have troops near Mexico.

Not our business, not our war. This is wag the dog, but in this case we may bite our own tail.

[Sarah]

The US demanding to know why Russia is moving troops around their border is akin to them asking us why we have troops near Mexico.

Not our business, not our war. This is wag the dog, but in this case we may bite our own tail.

All of this, even the stuff coming from Ukraine, is staged. Russia has had secret troops and mercenaries in Ukraine for the last 8 years, fighting Ukrainians, resulting in over 13,000 deaths, but did anyone talk about it, or worry about Russia until now? They took over Crimea, but did anyone care enough to do something?

My guess is that all this troop buildup will lead to come kind of agreement in the short-term. The goal is to sap the US of its unity, morale, and strength, and weaken it's military.

My current view is that war will break out first in the Pacific and Middle East, so our forces will have to defend Israel and SK. Putin won't make any large scale, showy invasion until the US is distracted, and he decides to cut off oil to Europe, which he no doubt will justify because of NATO aggression. But the ones at the top are all working together to carry out the plan.

[endlessQuestions]

The US demanding to know why Russia is moving troops around their border is akin to them asking us why we have troops near Mexico.

Not our business, not our war. This is wag the dog, but in this case we may bite our own tail.

All of this, even the stuff coming from Ukraine, is staged. Russia has had secret troops and mercenaries in Ukraine for the last 8 years, fighting Ukrainians, resulting in over 13,000 deaths, but did anyone talk about it, or worry about Russia until now? They took over Crimea, but did anyone care enough to do something?

My guess is that all this troop buildup will lead to come kind of agreement in the short-term. The goal is to sap the US of its unity, morale, and strength, and weaken it's military.

My current view is that war will break out first in the Pacific and Middle East, so our forces will have to defend Israel and SK. Putin won't make any large scale, showy invasion until the US is distracted, and he decides to cut off oil to Europe, which he no doubt will justify because of NATO aggression. But the ones at the top are all working together to carry out the plan.

Trump agree with you. He says to watch Taiwan after the Olympics. So there’s that.

[Sarah]

The US demanding to know why Russia is moving troops around their border is akin to them asking us why we have troops near Mexico.

Not our business, not our war. This is wag the dog, but in this case we may bite our own tail.

All of this, even the stuff coming from Ukraine, is staged. Russia has had secret troops and mercenaries in Ukraine for the last 8 years, fighting Ukrainians, resulting in over 13,000 deaths, but did anyone talk about it, or worry about Russia until now? They took over Crimea, but did anyone care enough to do something?

My guess is that all this troop buildup will lead to come kind of agreement in the short-term. The goal is to sap the US of its unity, morale, and strength, and weaken it's military.

My current view is that war will break out first in the Pacific and Middle East, so our forces will have to defend Israel and SK. Putin won't make any large scale, showy invasion until the US is distracted, and he decides to cut off oil to Europe, which he no doubt will justify because of NATO aggression. But the ones at the top are all working together to carry out the plan.

Trump agree with you. He says to watch Taiwan after the Olympics. So there’s that.

They still want people to be listen to Trump I guess

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https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdBjMhVY/

So.....

Knowing NATO is run by the bilderberg group.....

Knowing that the Soviets would literally nuke the world over Crimea

Lol Heads up


"Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.

3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
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the US of its unity, morale, and strength, and weaken it's military.

[ajax]

The US demanding to know why Russia is moving troops around their border is akin to them asking us why we have troops near Mexico.

Not our business, not our war. This is wag the dog, but in this case we may bite our own tail.

Tweet of the day:

Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz·4h

So to recap:

Nation stationing troops inside its own borders = hostile aggressor

Nation circling the planet with hundreds of military bases, waging nonstop wars, working to destroy any nation which disobeys it, pushing nuclear brinkmanship = just normal democracy freedom stuff

[iWriteStuff]

the US of its unity, morale, and strength, and weaken it's military.

We’ve gone from “Don’t ask; don’t tell” to “Let’s make commercials to tell everyone about your homosexuality”.

Yes, I’m sure our enemies are trembling in their stilettos.

[Being There]

Biden fully committed to starting war with Russia, no matter what the consequences

https://www.brighteon.com/30208d0d-830a ... 35ead8ed79

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UKRAINE EXPLODES INTO BATTLE - BOTH SIDES ENGAGING
17 February 2022

At about 2:30 AM eastern US time on Thursday, shelling and mortar fire from Ukraine forces began hitting both Donetsk and Luhansk. Ukraine is seven hours AHEAD of U.S. eastern time, so the shelling began around 7:30 PM Wednesday night on the US east Coast time zone.

Reports, mostly from social media, indicate heavy fighting by both sides along what is called the "Line of Contact" between the militias of Luhansk/Donetsk, and the Ukrainian Army.

For much of the early morning hours Thursday since the shelling began, Ukraine has flatly denied firing on either Luhansk or Donetsk. Ukraine has repeatedly said they are not engaging. Yet numerous videos from civilian homes in the area, with the clear sounds of shells flying overhead, and of mortars or artillery shells exploding in the distance, and undeniable proof that __ someone __ is attacking.


MORE:

After NATO's flat-out REFUSAL to halt its eastward expansion, in a formal, written reply, Russia now "insists " on withdrawal of all US forces from Central and Eastern Europe.

This story , publishing at 10:16 AM EST, will feature numerous videos and near real-time reports for the next several hours. Please check back for updates. . . .

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[NeveR]

The Ukie govt has periodically been shelling civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk since 2014. It mostly goes unreported. So it's totally believable they would grab the chance offered by all the "Russians are coming" hysteria to do it again.

[Being There]

the title to this video is misleading.
This video is about Ukraine and Russia

[Sarah]

The Ukie govt has periodically been shelling civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk since 2014. It mostly goes unreported. So it's totally believable they would grab the chance offered by all the "Russians are coming" hysteria to do it again.

That's according to Russian reporting. There are dozens and dozens of videos online of journalists on the front line of the Ukraine side, interviewing Ukrainian soldiers. Some of the soldiers even critisizing the Ukrainian government. You would think that if Ukraine and NATO were the ones trying to hide something, they wouldn't allow this kind of reporting.

On the other hand you don't see any interviews with separatist soldiers or a presence of international journalists in Eastern Ukraine.

Here's some of the problems:

Pro-Russian mob targets journalists in Ukraine - BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ-hkBVlZtg&t=43s

Simon Ostrovsky Describes His Kidnapping: Russian Roulette In Ukraine (Dispatch 31)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQGRJN4Radk&t=8s

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/in ... m-ukraine/
"Tomilenko says that Ukrainian journalists and media workers can’t work in the occupied territories because of safety risks. He reminds me of the case of Stanislav Aseev, the journalist who was arrested in the self-proclaimed “Donetsk People’s Republic” (DNR) in 2017. Aseev was later sentenced to 15 years in prison on espionage charges. He was released via prisoner exchange in December 2019. “A lack of journalists in the occupied territories means a lack of information from them,” Tomilenko points out.”"

"The situation could be partially resolved by republishing articles from western newspapers, which enjoy more trust in Ukraine than Russian media. But there are serious problems here as well. Natalia Ligacheva feels that this is the result of a number of problems for western journalists themselves.

“We know that western media generally have offices in Russia, and very often they have more ‘pro-Russian’ than ‘pro-Ukrainian’ views,” she says. “This also means that we put less trust in this information – it’s another aspect of the issue that might have far-reaching consequences.”

"On the other hand, western journalists have problems travelling to the occupied territories. First, they can only enter the area through special checkpoints in Ukraine. Using any other route – through Russia, for example – would be seen as a legal violation and the journalists could be barred from entering Ukraine.

"Second, they need accreditation from special agencies inside the unrecognised republics. But if you receive this accreditation, you can wind up on the “Peacekeeper” (Mirotvorets) website, which publishes every accessible personal detail of journalists who cooperate with the unrecognised government of the occupied territories. Accreditation is also seen as a form of cooperation.

"The Mirotvorets website has frequently enraged journalists, including at the international level. It has, however, had no influence on the politics of the website, which people believe is linked to Deputy Interior Minister Anton Gerashchenko. In other words, according to Serhiy Tomilenko, serious western media try to avoid sending their journalists to the occupied territories."

"...One journalist who works on both sides of the frontline agreed to an interview on condition of confidentiality. He believes that the pressure from radical groups has been very much exaggerated, and the lack of publications from behind the frontline can be put down to perfectly objective reasons: a lack of media interest in this subject and the real threat of arrest for Ukrainian journalists in the occupied territories.

"He believes that no journalist with a Ukrainian passport and official registration anywhere outside the Donetsk or Luhansk regions could possibly cross the demarcation line without preliminary agreement from the insurgents on their future travel plans, publication and intentions. And to go there without any guarantees of their safety and support from their editor and government would be simply dangerous.

"And indeed, the fate of the freelance Radio Liberty reporter Stanislav Aseev, who spent two and a half years in prison for his journalistic activities, shows that the Ukrainian government cannot provide any effective protection for reporters."

https://voxeurop.eu/en/war-in-ukraine-i ... -contrary/
I consider that it could be helpful to hear more from Moscow. My contacts would sound more grim and pessimistic than before, which would be discouraging. Since the arrest of anti-corruption activist Alexey Navalny in January 2021, Russia has changed a lot and many red lines have been crossed. An assault on the independent media and NGOs, a crackdown on the remnants of the opposition, with activists forced into exile – the situation is worse than it has ever been since 1991. Those opposing the government are officially named foreign agents. Since the COVID-19 pandemic the FSB and military have totally dominated Putin's inner circle. Pragmatists who argued for “business as usual” with the West, for the sake of the economy, were removed. So now the Kremlin is unanimous in wanting to regain its position in charge of the former Warsaw Pact territories.

https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac ... -their-job
I work as the director of the Ukrainian Service of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. I have been responsible for all our coverage since spring 2013. Ukraine is the only European country at war. It has been forced to defend itself for more than five years.

Ukraine is also a European country where anti-corruption reporting or whistleblowing can cost you your life. I am going to tell you the stories of five people from my own newsroom. Each is different. But each will tell you something similar: the danger of operating as an independent journalist or blogger in Ukraine.

Some of these journalists work in occupied areas, such as parts of Eastern Ukraine and the Crimean peninsula. But even those who work with me in Kiev can’t avoid grave risks.


Stanislav
Stanislav Aseyev. Credit: Radio Free Europe/Radio Libery

The first journalist I want to tell you about is Stanislav Aseyev from Eastern Ukraine.

In spring 2014 Russian-backed forces took over Stanislav’s hometown, Donetsk. Most journalists left the city but he decided to stay. Stanislav was one of the very few independent voices there. He kept doing his job. He reported for our website and later for radio about all aspects of life in Eastern Ukraine now under control of Russian-led forces. Stanislav had said: “We will be defeated not in the field, but when the last person with a Ukrainian dream will leave”.

In the spring of 2017 Stanislav was captured. Since then he has been in prison. That means that he has already spent three birthdays behind bars. He turned 30 in October.

Despite all our efforts, we have had very little information about him. But there are some things we have learned. One is that he has been tortured. The other is that at one point Stanislav went on hunger strike.

This October we learned that Stanislav was sentenced to 15 years in prison. The reason? Espionage. Last year we saw the only video of Stanislav in captivity. It was shown on Russian state TV. In this video Stanislav admits he is a spy. We have analysed the footage very carefully and strongly believe that Stanislav’s confession was forced. However, there is a little beacon of hope. Stanislav might be exchanged during a prisoner swap. These negotiations depend on Russia.
Oleh
Oleh Halazyuk. Credit: Radio Free Europe/Radio Libery

The main character of my second story is Oleh Halazyuk.

Oleh is from a Ukrainian city called Torez. He is a former university teacher who holds a PhD. When the occupation began, Oleh started reporting to our website from his hometown, just like Stanislav.

Both have anonymously contributed to a project called ‘Letters from the Occupied Donbas’. We modelled this project after the BBC’s ‘Letters from ISIS’. Oleh reported about schools, gas shortages, and about the MH-17 flight that was shot down by Russian-backed separatists in the summer of 2014.

In August 2017 Oleh was detained. Why? After two years, we still have no clue.
Alina
Alina Smutko. Credit: Radio Free Europe/Radio Libery

I would also like to tell you the story of photographer Alina Smutko. Alina has been documenting the everyday life of Crimeans, including Russians, Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars. Alina has taken us to Epiphany celebrations in Sevastopol and she has shown the world how family life of Crimean Tatars was destroyed after their loved ones were put on trial.

In Crimea concerns about religious extremism are often used to punish any dissent. In February 2019 Alina tried to enter annexed Crimea once again. This time she was stopped. She cannot enter Crimea for nine years on Russian national security grounds.
Mykola
Mykola Selena. Credit: Radio Free Europe/Radio Libery

I next want to tell the story of Mykola Selena, a very experienced Ukrainian journalist. He has written hundreds of reports. In April 2016 Mykola’s house was searched along with seven other people. He was suspected [of wrongdoing] in co-operation with my newsroom. I asked myself: what did we do wrong? Could we have protected him better? Mykola was convicted. The reason was one of his blogs. It was about the economic blockade of the Crimean peninsula.

There is a particular law in Russia. If you say that Crimea belongs to Ukraine you can be put in prison for up to five years. Mykola Semena received a two-and-a-half-year suspended sentence, and has been prohibited from practising journalism.
RFL investigation
Investigation by RFE/RL into the movement of Petro Poroshenko

My colleagues are facing pressure not only from Russia, but also from their own country, Ukraine. If Ukrainian journalists report on corruption or on the shady deals of the Ukrainian authorities, they get a notice: 'You are rocking the boat’. On social media it gets worse. My colleagues who work in Kyiv have been called spies who work against their own country.

The fifth and final of my colleagues whose story I want to share with you is Natalie Sedletska. Natalie is the leader of our investigative team. In early 2018 we had a scoop. It was aired in the programme Sedletska runs. The story was about then-Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko, who had spent his Christmas vacation in the Maldives.

President Poroshenko is a millionaire. So the question is not whether he could afford this luxurious trip. The question was how he crossed the border with his family and why his trip was kept secret. Remember: our country is at war.

What happened next? In the summer of 2018 the prosecutor general’s office requested access to Natalie Sedletska’s mobile phone but officials didn't get it. The European Court of Human Rights intervened to reject this demand.

In 2019 Ukraine had an election and the government changed. Now the State Bureau of Investigations launched a probe about the Maldives trip taken by the former president. Is this good news? Not really.

In October the court ruled that our newsroom has to provide all the information about the presidential trip, including how the story was exactly edited. We had a discussion on the limits of privacy before going on air. The government investigator also wanted to know the salaries of our journalists and cameramen. If we refused, searches could follow. We had to go to court ourselves.

If officials are going against journalists, this will encourage others as well.

Former politician and lawyer Andriy Portnov doesn’t want Natalie Sedletska's team to report on him either. In November he published the license plates of our newsroom cars and home addresses of drivers for our television crews. “I will release private and personal information on all of you to the 10th generation,” Portnov promised.

When I became the director of the Ukrainian Service of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty six years ago, I could not have imagined how much time we would have to spend on seeking legal support. This is the part of our work that is not often discussed. It has to happen behind the scenes. It includes digging out information about colleagues who have been held captive.

So what happened to these journalists?

We heard about Stanislav Aseyev and Oleh Halazyuk from former inmates who were in prison with them. Mykola Semena can't leave Crimea to get the medical treatment he urgently needs. Without the work of photographers like Alina Smutko we would know much less about everyday life in Crimea. And on the last story I told I have to say: investigative reporter Natalie Sedletska is the strongest woman I know.

My colleagues are fearless journalists who have worked hard, been persecuted and harassed. And because of what? Because they believe that the people have the right to know.
Watch the video of Maryana's talk


An update: March 2020

After I gave my talk, we have received good news. RFE/RL’s Ukrainian Service contributors Stanislav Aseyev and Oleh Halazyuk were exchanged during a prisoner swap with Russian-backed separatists on December 29, 2019.

I was able to meet both Stanislav and Oleh in Kyiv during my winter break. While Aseyev was sentenced to 15 years, we learned that Halazuyk received a 16-year verdict. Both indictments condemn cooperation with my news organisation. Aseyev is writing a book about his ordeal behind bars. The first excerpt, published on our website, describes how he was tortured.

On February 18, 2020, Crimean journalist and author Mykola Semena was able to leave the annexed peninsula to get medical treatment. Before that, in January, the court in Simferopol had lifted his house arrest, Semena’s name was also excluded from the Russian list of ‘extremists and terrorists’. However, it is increasingly difficult to report from the territories not controlled by the Ukrainian government. Mykola Semena’s release came days after Taras Ibragimov, another of our contributors, was barred by Russia’s Federal Security Service from entering Crimea for 34 years.

[Sarah]

World
UKRAINE EXPLODES INTO BATTLE - BOTH SIDES ENGAGING
17 February 2022

At about 2:30 AM eastern US time on Thursday, shelling and mortar fire from Ukraine forces began hitting both Donetsk and Luhansk. Ukraine is seven hours AHEAD of U.S. eastern time, so the shelling began around 7:30 PM Wednesday night on the US east Coast time zone.

Reports, mostly from social media, indicate heavy fighting by both sides along what is called the "Line of Contact" between the militias of Luhansk/Donetsk, and the Ukrainian Army.

For much of the early morning hours Thursday since the shelling began, Ukraine has flatly denied firing on either Luhansk or Donetsk. Ukraine has repeatedly said they are not engaging. Yet numerous videos from civilian homes in the area, with the clear sounds of shells flying overhead, and of mortars or artillery shells exploding in the distance, and undeniable proof that __ someone __ is attacking.


MORE:

After NATO's flat-out REFUSAL to halt its eastward expansion, in a formal, written reply, Russia now "insists " on withdrawal of all US forces from Central and Eastern Europe.

This story , publishing at 10:16 AM EST, will feature numerous videos and near real-time reports for the next several hours. Please check back for updates. . . .

much much more
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.ph ... s-engaging

From Hal's website:
"I predict Russia will take Lithuania in a blitz invasion, then tell the other Baltic states of Estonia and Latvia something like "Either you agree right now to ejecting US and NATO forces or YOU get what Lithuania just got." I think Russia will then go to Poland and tell them the same thing. Next would be Romania and perhaps Bulgaria.. Just my prediction.)"

[NeveR]

World
UKRAINE EXPLODES INTO BATTLE - BOTH SIDES ENGAGING
17 February 2022

At about 2:30 AM eastern US time on Thursday, shelling and mortar fire from Ukraine forces began hitting both Donetsk and Luhansk. Ukraine is seven hours AHEAD of U.S. eastern time, so the shelling began around 7:30 PM Wednesday night on the US east Coast time zone.

Reports, mostly from social media, indicate heavy fighting by both sides along what is called the "Line of Contact" between the militias of Luhansk/Donetsk, and the Ukrainian Army.

For much of the early morning hours Thursday since the shelling began, Ukraine has flatly denied firing on either Luhansk or Donetsk. Ukraine has repeatedly said they are not engaging. Yet numerous videos from civilian homes in the area, with the clear sounds of shells flying overhead, and of mortars or artillery shells exploding in the distance, and undeniable proof that __ someone __ is attacking.


MORE:

After NATO's flat-out REFUSAL to halt its eastward expansion, in a formal, written reply, Russia now "insists " on withdrawal of all US forces from Central and Eastern Europe.

This story , publishing at 10:16 AM EST, will feature numerous videos and near real-time reports for the next several hours. Please check back for updates. . . .

much much more
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.ph ... s-engaging

From Hal's website:
"I predict Russia will take Lithuania in a blitz invasion, then tell the other Baltic states of Estonia and Latvia something like "Either you agree right now to ejecting US and NATO forces or YOU get what Lithuania just got." I think Russia will then go to Poland and tell them the same thing. Next would be Romania and perhaps Bulgaria.. Just my prediction.)"

Hal doesn't get out much does he.

[Sarah]

World
UKRAINE EXPLODES INTO BATTLE - BOTH SIDES ENGAGING
17 February 2022

At about 2:30 AM eastern US time on Thursday, shelling and mortar fire from Ukraine forces began hitting both Donetsk and Luhansk. Ukraine is seven hours AHEAD of U.S. eastern time, so the shelling began around 7:30 PM Wednesday night on the US east Coast time zone.

Reports, mostly from social media, indicate heavy fighting by both sides along what is called the "Line of Contact" between the militias of Luhansk/Donetsk, and the Ukrainian Army.

For much of the early morning hours Thursday since the shelling began, Ukraine has flatly denied firing on either Luhansk or Donetsk. Ukraine has repeatedly said they are not engaging. Yet numerous videos from civilian homes in the area, with the clear sounds of shells flying overhead, and of mortars or artillery shells exploding in the distance, and undeniable proof that __ someone __ is attacking.


MORE:

After NATO's flat-out REFUSAL to halt its eastward expansion, in a formal, written reply, Russia now "insists " on withdrawal of all US forces from Central and Eastern Europe.

This story , publishing at 10:16 AM EST, will feature numerous videos and near real-time reports for the next several hours. Please check back for updates. . . .

much much more
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.ph ... s-engaging

From Hal's website:
"I predict Russia will take Lithuania in a blitz invasion, then tell the other Baltic states of Estonia and Latvia something like "Either you agree right now to ejecting US and NATO forces or YOU get what Lithuania just got." I think Russia will then go to Poland and tell them the same thing. Next would be Romania and perhaps Bulgaria.. Just my prediction.)"

Hal doesn't get out much does he.

It's definitely comical. The entire time he's defending Russia, and then he throws this in there, as if to say they have a right to take over and meddle with whatever Eastern European country they want to.

[endlessQuestions]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... lians.html

It would appear something real is happening. Who knows who is responsible…

[NeveR]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... lians.html

It would appear something real is happening. Who knows who is responsible…

As I said earlier it's the same stuff that has been happening there since the US-backed coup in 2014. But normally it doesn't get reported. The Ukies are shelling civilians in Donetsk and the western media are lying their collective a$$es off about it.

Look at the language in that Daily Mail report. "Separatist-occupied East Ukraine"? The independence of Donetsk and Lugansk from Ukraine was voted on and agreed with Ukraine in the Minsk II agreement in 2016.

[endlessQuestions]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... lians.html

It would appear something real is happening. Who knows who is responsible…

As I said earlier it's the same stuff that has been happening there since the US-backed coup in 2014. But normally it doesn't get reported. The Ukies are shelling civilians in Donetsk and the western media are lying their collective a$$es off about it.

Look at the language in that Daily Mail report. "Separatist-occupied East Ukraine"? The independence of Donetsk and Lugansk from Ukraine was voted on and agreed with Ukraine in the Minsk II agreement in 2016.

The evacuation of 700,000 people is the same stuff that’s been happening? Seems like you’d run out of people pretty quick…

Of course, maybe they made that part up…. I truly don’t know.

[tribrac]

Its nice of Biden to give Americans time to get out of the way...too bad if you were an American in Afghanistan.

Wonder if Biden is giving Americans in Canada the same month before he takes on that despotic ruler who is punishing his opponents and destroying democracy.

[NeveR]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... lians.html

It would appear something real is happening. Who knows who is responsible…

As I said earlier it's the same stuff that has been happening there since the US-backed coup in 2014. But normally it doesn't get reported. The Ukies are shelling civilians in Donetsk and the western media are lying their collective a$$es off about it.

Look at the language in that Daily Mail report. "Separatist-occupied East Ukraine"? The independence of Donetsk and Lugansk from Ukraine was voted on and agreed with Ukraine in the Minsk II agreement in 2016.

The evacuation of 700,000 people is the same stuff that’s been happening? Seems like you’d run out of people pretty quick…

Of course, maybe they made that part up…. I truly don’t know.

They are trying to keep a narrative turning over. First they build up a non-existent 'threat' of Russian invasion. Then they demand Russia pulls back their troops from their own border , which of course they refuse to do. Then they use this refusal to talk about completely imaginary "Russian aggression". At the same time they lean on the Ukies to start harassing Donetsk and Lugansk just to have some optics of 'war' to talk about and keep the pot boiling. And they marinade all of it in lies, semi-truths and wild speculation.

Why? To scupper Nordstream 2? To distract from the truckers? To distract from COVID collapsing? To try to force Russia into 'doing something'? Some other esoteric reason? All of the above? But whatever the reason that is what is going on.

[tribrac]

To start a little skirish that happens to put Christians and Patriots in harms way while keeping the gads in safe places?

Nah...that would be crazy....