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Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 3:02 pm
by endlessQuestions
This line of attack is new to me:
“So, there are some people right now who believe they have been taught truths, and I say, perhaps we all need to be like the mother of the Savior, we need to be like Mary, who kept all these things and pondered them in her heart.”
What a terrible thing to say, IMO. People need to talk, they need to explore, they need guidance and feedback. Notice that the whole argument is built in a logical fallacy: just because Mary kept all these things and pondered them in her heart does NOT mean she didn’t talk to anybody about them. Indeed, we know she talked to at least one person…
Sophistry, nonsensically formulated arguments, divisiveness…. this is deeply troubling.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 3:06 pm
by endlessQuestions
One last observation and I’ll stop:
It’s interesting to note the difference between how Sister Nelson #1 and Sister Nelson #2 speak about their husband.
I don’t have the direct quote in front of me but when Sis. Nelson #1 was asked how she handled so much while her husband was away doctoring and leading the church, her reply was something along the lines of: “I didn’t expect much from him, and do I was never disappointed”.
Compare that to the unbridled sycophancy you hear from Sis. Nelson #2. I often wonder if Dantzel sits up in Heaven and just rolls her eyes when Wendy speaks. Probably not, but I do wonder.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 3:08 pm
by Mamabear
endlessismyname wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 3:02 pm
This line of attack is new to me:
“So, there are some people right now who believe they have been taught truths, and I say, perhaps we all need to be like the mother of the Savior, we need to be like Mary, who kept all these things and pondered them in her heart.”
What a terrible thing to say, IMO. People need to talk, they need to explore, they need guidance and feedback. Notice that the whole argument is built in a logical fallacy: just because Mary kept all these things and pondered them in her heart does NOT mean she didn’t talk to anybody about them. Indeed, we know she talked to at least one person…
Sophistry, nonsensically formulated arguments, divisiveness…. this is deeply troubling.
Questions are bad, silence is good. That’s how they operate.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 3:44 pm
by ImBored
Wendy was a marriage therapist for three decades before she was "chosen". What bugs me the most is how many women and mothers she taught needed to submit to their husbands and their abuses. She was targeted because Nelson knew she was already groomed to believe his crap and submit to it and sell it to the public. Mommies wake up and protect your girls from her lies.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 4:41 pm
by harakim
Niemand wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 11:47 am
CuriousThinker wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 11:44 am
Resilience was a huge buzzword in Common Core too. It is big with the Great Reset talking heads now, also.
I've been trying to work out what they mean by it. I think it means resistant to opposition from people who oppose them.
That's pretty much it. They know the system is fragile. If one individual can take down the whole thing (they can) then how are they going to enslave everyone? So they need to become more resilient. They can't have workers in their corporate plantations who can walk away. They need to eliminate those. Hence the vaccine mandate. That's why the FED does all these scenarios about financial disasters. That's why they are throwing out the Constitution to "try to find terrorists". That's why they do pretty much everything. They need to make sure when they cast out the resisters from society, that society will not collapse. If they have a few billion hungry people at their doors, they won't survive long.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 5:08 pm
by Niemand
harakim wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 4:41 pm
Niemand wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 11:47 am
CuriousThinker wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 11:44 am
Resilience was a huge buzzword in Common Core too. It is big with the Great Reset talking heads now, also.
I've been trying to work out what they mean by it. I think it means resistant to opposition from people who oppose them.
That's pretty much it. They know the system is fragile. If one individual can take down the whole thing (they can) then how are they going to enslave everyone? So they need to become more resilient. They can't have workers in their corporate plantations who can walk away. They need to eliminate those. Hence the vaccine mandate. That's why the FED does all these scenarios about financial disasters. That's why they are throwing out the Constitution to "try to find terrorists". That's why they do pretty much everything. They need to make sure when they cast out the resisters from society, that society will not collapse. If they have a few billion hungry people at their doors, they won't survive long.
Automation will support a few thousand parasites, and destroy the jobs of billions of people though. I'm sure they've worked that out by now.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 8:11 pm
by harakim
Niemand wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 5:08 pm
harakim wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 4:41 pm
Niemand wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 11:47 am
CuriousThinker wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 11:44 am
Resilience was a huge buzzword in Common Core too. It is big with the Great Reset talking heads now, also.
I've been trying to work out what they mean by it. I think it means resistant to opposition from people who oppose them.
That's pretty much it. They know the system is fragile. If one individual can take down the whole thing (they can) then how are they going to enslave everyone? So they need to become more resilient. They can't have workers in their corporate plantations who can walk away. They need to eliminate those. Hence the vaccine mandate. That's why the FED does all these scenarios about financial disasters. That's why they are throwing out the Constitution to "try to find terrorists". That's why they do pretty much everything. They need to make sure when they cast out the resisters from society, that society will not collapse. If they have a few billion hungry people at their doors, they won't survive long.
Automation will support a few thousand parasites, and destroy the jobs of billions of people though. I'm sure they've worked that out by now.
I am almost certain they haven't.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 4:14 am
by Niemand
harakim wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 8:11 pm
Niemand wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 5:08 pm
harakim wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 4:41 pm
Niemand wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 11:47 am
I've been trying to work out what they mean by it. I think it means resistant to opposition from people who oppose them.
That's pretty much it. They know the system is fragile. If one individual can take down the whole thing (they can) then how are they going to enslave everyone? So they need to become more resilient. They can't have workers in their corporate plantations who can walk away. They need to eliminate those. Hence the vaccine mandate. That's why the FED does all these scenarios about financial disasters. That's why they are throwing out the Constitution to "try to find terrorists". That's why they do pretty much everything. They need to make sure when they cast out the resisters from society, that society will not collapse. If they have a few billion hungry people at their doors, they won't survive long.
Automation will support a few thousand parasites, and destroy the jobs of billions of people though. I'm sure they've worked that out by now.
I am almost certain they haven't.
I suspect it's about that. The so called Fourth industrial Revolution (which is no such thing) includes a lot of surveillance, aka "smart" technology. This means the populace can be continually monitored. They seem desperate to get this serum into everyone on this planet, which makes some people question what is in it and how it might relate to it.
But it does also correlate to the moves to reduce population. They don't need all of us for some things now and the number required will continue to fall.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 4:43 am
by briznian
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 4:46 am
by ImBored
LOVE IT.
Who designed this? He is so creepy.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 4:56 am
by briznian
ImBored wrote: ↑January 27th, 2022, 4:46 am
LOVE IT.
Who designed this? He is so creepy.
I dunno who designed it. I assume the proprietor of this blog where there is a link to a full size version freely available.
https://ldtruths.blogspot.com/2022/01/v ... -only.html
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
by Moroni104
I found the quotes shown here by Wendy Nelson to be just fine. They actually improve my feelings toward President Nelson.
There are many things that have been done in the last few years that have negatively impacted my impression of the first presidency, but this particular interview seems pretty innocuous.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 10:09 am
by diligently seeking
Moroni104 wrote: ↑January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
I found the quotes shown here by Wendy Nelson to be just fine. They actually improve my feelings toward President Nelson.
There are many things that have been done in the last few years that have negatively impacted my impression of the first presidency, but this particular interview seems pretty innocuous.
How innocuous was her emphatic last expression?
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 10:12 am
by endlessQuestions
Moroni104 wrote: ↑January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
I found the quotes shown here by Wendy Nelson to be just fine. They actually improve my feelings toward President Nelson.
There are many things that have been done in the last few years that have negatively impacted my impression of the first presidency, but this particular interview seems pretty innocuous.
Innocuous, until you compare it to other propaganda from other world conflicts and realize your church is engaged in the same tactics that ruthless organizations have engaged in since the beginning of time…
Funny choice of words, by the way, all things being considered. Did you choose innocuous on purpose?
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Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 5:18 pm
by Say what?
Mamabear wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 11:47 am
NeveR wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 11:36 am
Did there used to be so much emphasis in the church from multiple sources on "follow the Prophet" and "the Prophet can't lead you astray"?
If it's new, when did it start?
No. They are pushing it harder now because people are speaking out against them and waking up. It’s never been this weird. Not sure when it started… I feel like it was after China sickness started.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 5:18 pm
by Say what?
Yep.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 5:25 pm
by Say what?
endlessismyname wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 2:16 pm
Hey, there’s that word “silly” again. Interesting.
One of the things that totally annoyed me. It sounds like she is mocking other people’s internet findings. I would like to see a one-on-one against an antivaxxer.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 5:29 pm
by InfoWarrior82
Say what? wrote: ↑January 27th, 2022, 5:25 pm
endlessismyname wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 2:16 pm
Hey, there’s that word “silly” again. Interesting.
One of the things that totally annoyed me. It sounds like she is mocking other people’s internet findings. I would like to see a one-on-one against an antivaxxer.
No one on their side will debate those on our side. They don't want to "give us a platform".
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 8:07 pm
by endlessQuestions
Say what? wrote: ↑January 27th, 2022, 5:25 pm
endlessismyname wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 2:16 pm
Hey, there’s that word “silly” again. Interesting.
One of the things that totally annoyed me. It sounds like she is mocking other people’s internet findings. I would like to see a one-on-one against an antivaxxer.
I would like to be that one, although I don’t accept the label of anti-vaxxer, since this isn’t a vaccine.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 8:22 pm
by harakim
Niemand wrote: ↑January 27th, 2022, 4:14 am
harakim wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 8:11 pm
Niemand wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 5:08 pm
harakim wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 4:41 pm
That's pretty much it. They know the system is fragile. If one individual can take down the whole thing (they can) then how are they going to enslave everyone? So they need to become more resilient. They can't have workers in their corporate plantations who can walk away. They need to eliminate those. Hence the vaccine mandate. That's why the FED does all these scenarios about financial disasters. That's why they are throwing out the Constitution to "try to find terrorists". That's why they do pretty much everything. They need to make sure when they cast out the resisters from society, that society will not collapse. If they have a few billion hungry people at their doors, they won't survive long.
Automation will support a few thousand parasites, and destroy the jobs of billions of people though. I'm sure they've worked that out by now.
I am almost certain they haven't.
I suspect it's about that. The so called Fourth industrial Revolution (which is no such thing) includes a lot of surveillance, aka "smart" technology. This means the populace can be continually monitored. They seem desperate to get this serum into everyone on this planet, which makes some people question what is in it and how it might relate to it.
But it does also correlate to the moves to reduce population. They don't need all of us for some things now and the number required will continue to fall.
On a purely sociopathic level, they could get rid of a lot of people and still have a functional society. The more people they get rid of, the more they have to empower those that remain. If they are going to rule, they can't offer love. If they are going to tell you what you have to do, they can't offer purpose or peace. All they can offer are promises of pleasure and threats. That is not going to be a stable society.
Now if it turns out they can somehow mind control these vaccinated people or they can come up with a good threat, then they'll be able to offer more effective promises of pleasure and more effective threats to the population at large. I still don't think they can pull it off because if people are that dumb or that close to death, then they will be very weak. But we are at least a decade away from being able to kill off all of the freedom lovers and still have a stable society. They're going to have to do it in pieces, if at all, or they are going to have to destroy the fabric of society. If they do the latter, it's going to be rough for them, too. The technology is nowhere near ready, even if they think it is.
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 9:03 pm
by EvanLM
the technology is electricity . . .can't control anything.
They have controlled others through abuse tactics that have been developed and used by our military bad guys for 40 years or more. These abuse techniques have been called tortue and have been used on traficked individuals including children. Mostly based on fear. The is what is being tried now on the whole populations of all countries with leaders that agree with lockstep. Basically abuse for the rest of our lives, then blamed on something or someone else. This is pretty deep satanic stuff.
When the children of the society no longer have a chance, then God wipes out the society. That is the present. Schools, societal norms, religion, family bonding, parental responsibility, etc. all minipulated to deliver the abuse to children . . .suicide is up . . .already has been done to millions privately but now is being done to the public
quit watching TV, be picky on the internet, homeschool kids, pray, move to the country, pray. . . . may God have mercy
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 9:06 pm
by EvanLM
btw: the reason that Fauci, Gates, Obama, etc. seem to have no empathy is because they were raised by cia communist type parents that used abuse and tortue to raise them and make them comply to horrible attrocities, oh yeah, bushes, too, and many more people . . . hollywood does this, professional sports, etc. . . .yes, abuse . . on purpose . . .planned and already perfected . . . yes
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 9:09 pm
by EvanLM
those elites who blame us for being abusive are the worst torturers and rapists towards their own children than you can imagine . . .then they take it to the public . . . millions of people in our faces every day have been raised this way . . .lack of empathy . . . perhaps even most are posessed. . .
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 9:11 pm
by EvanLM
I won't give you any links cuz there are hundreds and Fred gets sick when he reads articles from my source. . . just believe me and search it for yourself. . . I have cried a boatload
Re: Church News Podcast: Sister Nelson's "witness" to President Nelson
Posted: January 29th, 2022, 9:55 pm
by Fred
RMN is a false prophet. He has no credible witness and has never stated "Thus saith the Lord." He is a fraud and partner of satan. He makes feel good speeches from the pulpit which allow some people to fall for his nasty lies. No fruit in the history of earth has ever been more rotten than RMN's.
They did not introduce Christ, the David Servant, or even an Angel to backup the lies and deceit of RMN. They bring out a woman of questionable background that has witnessed absolutely nothing. She testifies that RMN has a pen with a light on it to write in the dark. She testifies that RMN is a prophet. She has no proof and offers none. Like the 5 year old on fast Sunday, she "testifies" of things that she actually has no way of knowing. It's like Fauci bringing out the janitor to testify of his credibility.
All RMN has to do is to say "Thus saith the Lord." Or the Lord told me to tell you the clot shot is a godsend. Or at our recent meeting at Adam Ondi-Ahman, God Himself told us to keep lying about the shot and masks because you are simply just too stupid to hear the truth. Or we have partnered with every know satanic organization in order to show tolerance and love to satan and all of his followers. Wendy is not credible.
