Ever wonder why human police are being demonised?

[Niemand]

There are a lot of daft and corrupt police around, as Fred's thread points out, but I wonder if it's ever struck anyone that the undermining of human police through BLM etc is also tied into the Fourth Industrial Revolution/Great Reset project?

Robots are allegedly "not racist", but they also don't join unions, demand higher wages, have consciences or any issues like that. With facial recognition software, and potential DNA/fingerprint recognition tech, they can also identify people or their locations a lot quicker.

Cameras have definitely replaced traffic cops for a lot of purposes here. When I was little, you often used to see the police waiting in laybys to pounce on whatever speeding car came by them. Now you hardly ever see that, but you see speed cameras galore. They make good money for the police and are out there 24/7. Very occasionally you'll see them out with one of those handheld radar guns, but it's mostly cameras now. I know some police forces also have systems which can recognise fingerprints within seconds - a change from the old, slow physical files.

So that's one area. Another is the use of drones. Police drones haven't arrived in a big way where I live, but I know in the State of Victoria in Australia in 2020 that they were being used frequently to spot people who were violating their lockdowns. They had number plate recognition on them, so any cars that were outside the 5km (~3 mi) limit from their homes were being automatically fined and they were also using facial recognition software on others. I know China has both facial recognition software on their CCTV and uses a lot of drones, so they probably combine the two.

We aren't into Robocop territory yet, or are we? "Xavier", Singapore

The autonomous robots – names “Xavier” – are equipped with seven cameras that enable them to detect "undesirable social behaviour” such as people chaining bikes up where they shouldn’t, or groups gathering in defiance of Singapore’s strict anti-coronavirus social distancing rules.

For example, when a small crowd gathered to watch a chess match between two elderly players Xavier rolled up to break it up.

The robot instructed them to “please keep one-metre distancing, please keep to five persons per group,” as it scanned them with one of its seven cameras.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird- ... e-25180552

"Griffin", Cleveland PD


South Korean robot prison guard


"Dogo", Israel

This 26-pound, eleven 11-inch-tall robot is packing a 9mm Glock pistol. Designed by Israeli firm General Robotics Ltd with help from the Israeli Police Counter Terrorism Unit, the Dogo can fire up to five rounds in two seconds. This small land rover can enter a house quietly, climb stairs, and even maneuver over obstacles. Ready with eight cameras and two-way audio, the Dogo allows police to communicate with and fire upon suspects without risking their lives, according to the company’s website. If law enforcement aren't looking to kill, the Dogo can also carry pepper spray or a dazzling light module to cause temporary blindness.

https://www.wired.com/2016/07/11-police ... und-world/

The creeping normalisation of police robots
https://www.digitaltrends.com/features/ ... alization/

[Wondering Wendy]

Yep, and if there are fewer human police, then they won't have to deal with an established protective armed force in every town, every city, when the UN troops invade. There will be no one but individuals who might manage to form a resistance movement. The whole defund the police movement is very deliberate.

[Niemand]

Yep, and if there are fewer human police, then they won't have to deal with an established protective armed force in every town, every city, when the UN troops invade. There will be no one but individuals who might manage to form a resistance movement. The whole defund the police movement is very deliberate.

Those UN troops are still humans, with all the issues of being a human I've just mentioned. A more automated approach, or even remote controlled machines, means fewer regrets.

[gkearney]

A hacker’s paradise.

[Niemand]

A hacker’s paradise.

Yes, indeed. I think that's why there is a reluctance to put guns on many of these (the Israeli "Dogo" excepted.)

I know that has been one of the issues with delivery drones for Amazon, food etc, that they can potentially crash, be vandalised or broken into, and there would be little redress.

I think Singapore would be more tolerant of something like that "Xavier", but it would be rapidly smashed up in some places.

[MikeMaillet]

We have not yet been able to make a car that drives by itself but we want to make robots that carry guns?

Mike Maillet
Ingleside, Ontario

[Niemand]

We have not yet been able to make a car that drives by itself but we want to make robots that carry guns?

Mike Maillet
Ingleside, Ontario

Yeah, as Bro. Kearney says above, "hackers' paradise". Very bad idea, but it ties into the wider mentality of this current project, which is to automate everything and gear half the technology to gather data or spy on people/harvest their data.

[Vision]

I don't wonder why human police are being demonized at all.

Just look at the enforcement of the draconian laws they are enforcing on the populations over covid. Do they deserve respect for the terror they are inflicting on society? They mindlessly enforce laws passed by politicians without any application of thought to the consequences to society.

For those that believe police make us safer ask yourself this one question, When do police show up to the crime scene?

Police and laws are a sign of an immoral society. Releasing inanimate objects on society to enforce laws is just one more example of how politicians/police view the citizenry they take oaths of office to protect and serve.

[David13]

We have not yet been able to make a car that drives by itself but we want to make robots that carry guns?

Mike Maillet
Ingleside, Ontario

Who is "we"? You and the mouse in your pocket?
dc

[MikeMaillet]

We have not yet been able to make a car that drives by itself but we want to make robots that carry guns?

Mike Maillet
Ingleside, Ontario

Who is "we"? You and the mouse in your pocket?
dc

We humans have not been able to make a car that can drive safely by itself is what I meant. My apologies for my inaccurate use of the English language.

Mike

[TheDuke]

RoboCop............

why bother, we just automate robo-DA's and drop all charges, then the cops don't even matter.

[InfoWarrior82]

They come out of training completely conditioned to follow orders above following the law itself. And cops wonder why they're not very popular with the citizens.

[Niemand]

They come out of training completely conditioned to follow orders above following the law itself. And cops wonder why they're not very popular with the citizens.

Robots don't even have to be trained and conditioned. They don't moan about their wages, and you don't have to pay out widows' pensions.

[Fred]

They come out of training completely conditioned to follow orders above following the law itself. And cops wonder why they're not very popular with the citizens.

Any cop that does not know the law, has no business enforcing it.

[Niemand]

They come out of training completely conditioned to follow orders above following the law itself. And cops wonder why they're not very popular with the citizens.

Any cop that does not know the law, has no business enforcing it.

In their defence, the law has been made so complex in some areas that only lawyers fully understand it.

I made this point to one of our ward members once. She said to me, "You think you know law better than the police do."

I just replied, "The police don't know the law, the lawyers do."

The better police in any place understand that the spirit of the law is as important as the letter of the law. In some cases, someone is technically breaking a law, but that law is either stupid or no harm had been done. The stupid police are jobsworths and no better than robots. Even worse, they can't understand when an offence hasn't been committed or when they've infringed the law themselves unwittingly. Which they do often (as well as knowingly.)

The one thing that gave me some hope here is that Police Scotland didn't enforce some lockdown rules in 2020. They knew it wasn't worth doing so, and it would create a lot of paperwork. (An acquaintance of mine who lived in the USSR in the 80s, says the KGB was sometimes more easygoing than some other Soviet institutions, not out of kindness but because they didn't like producing extra work for themselves.)

[Fred]

They come out of training completely conditioned to follow orders above following the law itself. And cops wonder why they're not very popular with the citizens.

Any cop that does not know the law, has no business enforcing it.

In their defence, the law has been made so complex in some areas that only lawyers fully understand it.

I made this point to one of our ward members once. She said to me, "You think you know law better than the police do."

I just replied, "The police don't know the law, the lawyers do."

The better police in any place understand that the spirit of the law is as important as the letter of the law. In some cases, someone is technically breaking a law, but that law is either stupid or no harm had been done. The stupid police are jobsworths and no better than robots. Even worse, they can't understand when an offence hasn't been committed or when they've infringed the law themselves unwittingly. Which they do often (as well as knowingly.)

The one thing that gave me some hope here is that Police Scotland didn't enforce some lockdown rules in 2020. They knew it wasn't worth doing so, and it would create a lot of paperwork. (An acquaintance of mine who lived in the USSR in the 80s, says the KGB was sometimes more easygoing than some other Soviet institutions, not out of kindness but because they didn't like producing extra work for themselves.)

Many laws are illegal. Particularly any law created by the Executive Branch which has no legal authority to create a law. Then, there are obvious illegal laws, such as any law that infringes on anyone's right to keep and bear arms. This is the case in the United States. Even a 5 year old can comprehend that a background check is illegal in order to obtain a firearm. And yet, democrats and other satanists will kill people gladly in order to enforce these illegal laws.

Utah just recently passed legislation that is incredibly vague, but appears to give more power and authority to Homeland Security to search the streets of Utah. Broad powers were given to search, but what to search for was not disclosed. This is a case of brainless dweebs making laws without the comprehension of what they are doing. You may have seen a Defending Utah video where the state gets all up in arms about being misunderstood, when clearly, their vague and nondescript language can be interpreted a thousand different ways. All laws are a reduction in freedom. No reduction in freedom should be taken lightly. A person can be arrested simply for suggesting that enough is enough. But we are way passed what is enough. It is passed time that police understand that their lives are scum and that their choosing to reduce freedom could reduce their ability to remain alive.

Only when the police are literally terrified of the people's ability to kill them can we have a police that realize who it is that they work for.

Police need to be held to the law and any infractions need to carry the death penalty. That would include asking a citizen for ID without probable cause that a crime has been committed. Or turning on emergency lights when there is no emergency.

[Niemand]

Many laws are illegal.

Law is about who has the power, and law extends out of that. If someone has no power, then that law is unenforceable. If someone has power, then they can enforce any law they wish.

Chairman Mao's famous quote - "power comes out of the barrel of a gun." A brutal and one sided view of power but not far wrong. One could argue the entire PRC is illegal from top to bottom, and the CCP are usurpers, since they took power in a coup. That would be correct, but since they've held some degree of power since the War, that argument is irrelevant. If you live there, you have to deal with them, no matter how disgusting or illegal their regime is.

Most laws around the world are designed to benefit the rich and powerful or those who run the government. When they're not, they aren't always enforced. De Tocqueville writing about the USA in the 1800s, said that the law there was intrinsically unfair when it came to bail, because wealthy people could bail themselves out all the time, and the less wealthy ended up in jail before even having gone to trial, because they couldn't afford to pay the bail.

Most of this Covid stuff worldwide is unconstitutional in the countries it is being enforced in, but it is still being enforced.

[Fred]

Many laws are illegal.

Law is about who has the power, and law extends out of that. If someone has no power, then that law is unenforceable. If someone has power, then they can enforce any law they wish.

Chairman Mao's famous quote - "power comes out of the barrel of a gun." A brutal and one sided view of power but not far wrong. One could argue the entire PRC is illegal from top to bottom, and the CCP are usurpers, since they took power in a coup. That would be correct, but since they've held some degree of power since the War, that argument is irrelevant. If you live there, you have to deal with them, no matter how disgusting or illegal their regime is.

Most laws around the world are designed to benefit the rich and powerful or those who run the government. When they're not, they aren't always enforced. De Tocqueville writing about the USA in the 1800s, said that the law there was intrinsically unfair when it came to bail, because wealthy people could bail themselves out all the time, and the less wealthy ended up in jail before even having gone to trial, because they couldn't afford to pay the bail.

Most of this Covid stuff worldwide is unconstitutional in the countries it is being enforced in, but it is still being enforced.

You are right, but it is not right. As long as people comply, there will be no freedom. Since there are no police to defend us, we must defend ourselves. There is nothing wrong with self defense. Self defense can include removing a target from 1000 yards away. Self defense is a God given right.

Self defense need not always be violent. A group can enter a store without masks and refuse to allow anyone to checkout unless the unmasked are allowed to check out. Acting in self defense may rquire traveling in groups too large to stop. The people are in charge. Not the satanic mayors and governors.

[Niemand]

Many laws are illegal.

Law is about who has the power, and law extends out of that. If someone has no power, then that law is unenforceable. If someone has power, then they can enforce any law they wish.

Chairman Mao's famous quote - "power comes out of the barrel of a gun." A brutal and one sided view of power but not far wrong. One could argue the entire PRC is illegal from top to bottom, and the CCP are usurpers, since they took power in a coup. That would be correct, but since they've held some degree of power since the War, that argument is irrelevant. If you live there, you have to deal with them, no matter how disgusting or illegal their regime is.

Most laws around the world are designed to benefit the rich and powerful or those who run the government. When they're not, they aren't always enforced. De Tocqueville writing about the USA in the 1800s, said that the law there was intrinsically unfair when it came to bail, because wealthy people could bail themselves out all the time, and the less wealthy ended up in jail before even having gone to trial, because they couldn't afford to pay the bail.

Most of this Covid stuff worldwide is unconstitutional in the countries it is being enforced in, but it is still being enforced.

You are right, but it is not right. As long as people comply, there will be no freedom. Since there are no police to defend us, we must defend ourselves. There is nothing wrong with self defense. Self defense can include removing a target from 1000 yards away. Self defense is a God given right.

Self defense need not always be violent. A group can enter a store without masks and refuse to allow anyone to checkout unless the unmasked are allowed to check out. Acting in self defense may rquire traveling in groups too large to stop. The people are in charge. Not the satanic mayors and governors.

Well, if they're going to think in revolutionary terms so can we. Something needs numbers to get going and if enough do it, it gains critical mass - like the Berlin Wall. I know there are several interpretations of what happened in '89 and why, but it did reach a point where the East German government was unable to enforce the situation, more and more East Germans joined in, and it all came crashing down.

I've seen changes happen that way. For example on our buses there are signs saying you can't stand near the driver. I didn't even notice them until a driver mentioned it (the sign is on the floor), but everyone ignores it, and no driver complains about it. I've also started closing windows on the bus, because it has been freezing, and I've noticed more people are doing the same now.

One night, there was ice on the streets and all the bus windows were open, so I shut a few and some numpty had the cheek to call me a 'lunatic". I asked him if he'd ever heard of pneumonia. He said it was because of Covid. I said that the virus didn't open the windows, I asked him if he slept with his bedroom windows open just now. He tried to claim he did! Shows what idiots these folk are. No old people can ride the bus if it is freezing in there, it will make them sick, not protect them...

Just a minor thing. I don't talk about the pandemic, I talk about the crisis. If anyone says "Covid did blah blah", I say, "No, it didn't, you're talking about the response to it." You weren't shut in your home for months on end because of Covid, but the response to it.

[Fred]

Many laws are illegal.

Law is about who has the power, and law extends out of that. If someone has no power, then that law is unenforceable. If someone has power, then they can enforce any law they wish.

Chairman Mao's famous quote - "power comes out of the barrel of a gun." A brutal and one sided view of power but not far wrong. One could argue the entire PRC is illegal from top to bottom, and the CCP are usurpers, since they took power in a coup. That would be correct, but since they've held some degree of power since the War, that argument is irrelevant. If you live there, you have to deal with them, no matter how disgusting or illegal their regime is.

Most laws around the world are designed to benefit the rich and powerful or those who run the government. When they're not, they aren't always enforced. De Tocqueville writing about the USA in the 1800s, said that the law there was intrinsically unfair when it came to bail, because wealthy people could bail themselves out all the time, and the less wealthy ended up in jail before even having gone to trial, because they couldn't afford to pay the bail.

Most of this Covid stuff worldwide is unconstitutional in the countries it is being enforced in, but it is still being enforced.

You are right, but it is not right. As long as people comply, there will be no freedom. Since there are no police to defend us, we must defend ourselves. There is nothing wrong with self defense. Self defense can include removing a target from 1000 yards away. Self defense is a God given right.

Self defense need not always be violent. A group can enter a store without masks and refuse to allow anyone to checkout unless the unmasked are allowed to check out. Acting in self defense may rquire traveling in groups too large to stop. The people are in charge. Not the satanic mayors and governors.

Well, if they're going to think in revolutionary terms so can we. Something needs numbers to get going and if enough do it, it gains critical mass - like the Berlin Wall. I know there are several interpretations of what happened in '89 and why, but it did reach a point where the East German government was unable to enforce the situation, more and more East Germans joined in, and it all came crashing down.

I've seen changes happen that way. For example on our buses there are signs saying you can't stand near the driver. I didn't even notice them until a driver mentioned it (the sign is on the floor), but everyone ignores it, and no driver complains about it. I've also started closing windows on the bus, because it has been freezing, and I've noticed more people are doing the same now.

One night, there was ice on the streets and all the bus windows were open, so I shut a few and some numpty had the cheek to call me a 'lunatic". I asked him if he'd ever heard of pneumonia. He said it was because of Covid. I said that the virus didn't open the windows, I asked him if he slept with his bedroom windows open just now. He tried to claim he did! Shows what idiots these folk are. No old people can ride the bus if it is freezing in there, it will make them sick, not protect them...

Just a minor thing. I don't talk about the pandemic, I talk about the crisis. If anyone says "Covid did blah blah", I say, "No, it didn't, you're talking about the response to it." You weren't shut in your home for months on end because of Covid, but the response to it.

When I was a kid, I worked in a place that manufactured toilet bowl cleaner. Actually, it was just a cottage cheese type container with a rock in it to keep it from floating in the toilet tank. There was a hole in the lid and the chemical we used was calcium hypoclorite. Or in common terms, swimming pool chlorine powder. Well, one day the fire department came by to do an inspection. They were all having a cow about the chlorine and threatened to shut us down. I asked what the big deal was. It is just chlorine. The fireman said that if it was mixed 50/50 with sugar and placed in a paper bag, that it would spontaneously combust if the bag got wet. He explained that if such a sack was thrown onto a roof that the home would burn down when it rained. Water does not put the fire out. It creates the fire. Wow, I said you could have went all day without telling me that. Needless to say, such information required further experimentation.

As it turns out, a cup of sugar and a cup of HTH (calcium hypochlotite) works pretty good. 21 seconds after getting wet, it ignites into a torch like fire. BTW, calcium hypochloride is different and does not work.

Naturally, I would not suggest that anyone do this at home. Never experiment without adult supervision.

[Juliet]

The biggest thing we should have done was raid area 51. We need to know what secrets the government is keeping. Isn't it funny ever since that campaign we are having earthquakes in divers places? It's almost as if they are destroying the evidence just in case people do make good on that campaign.

When it comes to power remember the golden rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules.

How would one go about tricking these robodogs? Would a laser pen shined into its visor camera confuse it? What about hiding behind a mirror? Maybe we can replace our front doors with mirrors? Do we need to learn how to lasso again?

[Niemand]

The biggest thing we should have done was raid area 51. We need to know what secrets the government is keeping. Isn't it funny ever since that campaign we are having earthquakes in divers places? It's almost as if they are destroying the evidence just in case people do make good on that campaign.

When it comes to power remember the golden rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules.

How would one go about tricking these robodogs? Would a laser pen shined into its visor camera confuse it? What about hiding behind a mirror? Maybe we can replace our front doors with mirrors? Do we need to learn how to lasso again?

I doubt there is much left there. Everyone knows about Area 51, even though it is not on maps. I remember some pub bore going on about "and they have this secret base called Area 51 blah blah."

I just said, "It's not secret, it's been famous worldwide for over thirty years." I pointed out the X Files had featured it heavily back in the early 90s, and it was a major staple of UFO books etc in the 80s. Reports say some interesting things still happen there, but secret? No... if there was anything there, it's been moved decades ago to somewhere almost no one has heard of. Maybe they still have Skunk Works, but the juicy stuff has moved elsewhere.

That Storm Area 51 thing summed up everything wrong with today's grassroots activism. Organising on Facebook. Lots of witty comments. No one there on the day. If 10,000 people had turned up there, they would struggle to control them all. If they started shooting them, it would cause an outrage.

How would one go about tricking these robodogs? Would a laser pen shined into its visor camera confuse it? What about hiding behind a mirror? Maybe we can replace our front doors with mirrors? Do we need to learn how to lasso again?

My suspicion is that a lot of these things will work with either infrared heat detection or picking up sound. I doubt mirrors will bother them. Nearly every house has mirrors, large ones sometimes and they must have factored that in. But I think they will go for heat and noise. Heat signatures will allow them to operate in the dark, givinģ them an advantage. They may contain some means to cut off electricity or knock it out. I don't know how they will handle a place with real fires in it (shades of the old Westworld film) or a lot of noise.

The other thing will be aerial drones. Some of these are reportedly very small, we're talking things from the size of birds (like many massmarket drones) down to insect size. If it is ground based, the issue will be manoeuvrability.

[Thinker]

I doubt there is much left there. Everyone knows about Area 51, even though it is not on maps. I remember some pub bore going on about "and they have this secret base called Area 51 blah blah."

I just said, "It's not secret, it's been famous worldwide for over thirty years." I pointed out the X Files had featured it heavily back in the early 90s, and it was a major staple of UFO books etc in the 80s. Reports say some interesting things still happen there, but secret? No... if there was anything there, it's been moved decades ago to somewhere almost no one has heard of. Maybe they still have Skunk Works, but the juicy stuff has moved elsewhere...

I’ve got the impression that UFO stuff is cover for advanced technology that they want to keep unknown. It’s never ULO (unidentified landing object).

I keep thinking about the metal monolith (s) found in Utah & then in Romania (especially considering proximity to Ukraine). Both areas are similar in that geographically they form circles in plateaus etc.

[Niemand]

I doubt there is much left there. Everyone knows about Area 51, even though it is not on maps. I remember some pub bore going on about "and they have this secret base called Area 51 blah blah."

I just said, "It's not secret, it's been famous worldwide for over thirty years." I pointed out the X Files had featured it heavily back in the early 90s, and it was a major staple of UFO books etc in the 80s. Reports say some interesting things still happen there, but secret? No... if there was anything there, it's been moved decades ago to somewhere almost no one has heard of. Maybe they still have Skunk Works, but the juicy stuff has moved elsewhere...

I’ve got the impression that UFO stuff is cover for advanced technology that they want to keep unknown. It’s never ULO (unidentified landing object).

I keep thinking about the metal monolith (s) found in Utah & then in Romania (especially considering proximity to Ukraine). Both areas are similar in that geographically they form circles in plateaus etc.

There were actually quite a few of those monoliths. They popped up in other places too.

Some of the UFO stuff is a cover. But at Area 51, people do see strange craft landing. I think the tech is human. The US military is probably at least twenty years ahead of mainstream aeronautics.

[Thinker]

There were actually quite a few of those monoliths. They popped up in other places too.

Some of the UFO stuff is a cover. But at Area 51, people do see strange craft landing. I think the tech is human. The US military is probably at least twenty years ahead of mainstream aeronautics.

I think so too - about advanced tech.

Now you’ve got me really curious. Where else have those monoliths popped up?
I was only aware of Utah & Romania.
…

Just looked it up - more monoliths
2020:
(Besides…Nov 18 Utah near Moab
November 27, Piatra Neamt, Romania)

Also:
* December 2 Atascadero, California
*December 3 appeared on a DC man’s front lawn

December 6:
*Isle of Wight,
*D.C., and
*The Netherlands

*February 7, 2021 a towering obelisk had appeared in the snow of an Austrian Churchyard https://www.travelchannel.com/interests ... -the-world

It disappeared each time before it or another appeared somewhere new.
What do you think is the meaning of this?