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https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/per ... -easy-way/

Personal gas chambers – assisted dying the easy way
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Alistair Thompson
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THERE are many shocking things about the euthanasia and assisted suicide debate, including the use of Death Row drugs, the weakening of universal protections on the grounds of disability or mental health problems, and the euthanising of non-mentally competent adults and children. Even so, a move to the use of personal gas chambers in Switzerland is chilling.

That’s right – Swiss authorities are reportedly on the verge of giving the green light to ‘Sarco’ machines for use by those who want to end their life.

Developed in the Netherlands by none other than Dr Death, aka Philip Nitschke, the coffin-like device could be in use as early as next year. While the assisted-suicide system currently requires the ingestion of the Death Row drug sodium pentobarbital, the Sarco pod can kill its user without using controlled substances, potentially circumventing so-called safeguards.

This means, says Nitschke, that the user doesn’t have to ‘get any permission, they don’t need some special doctor to try and get a needle in, and they don’t need to get difficult drugs to obtain’.

In an article published this week he went further, telling Swiss Info that ‘we want to remove any kind of psychiatric review from the process and allow the individual to control the method themselves’.

This frank admission is yet more evidence why doctors, disability rights campaigners and many others remain strongly opposed to changing the law in the UK. They recognise that while some campaigners call for what they believe are limited reforms, once the principle of killing those on health grounds is established, safeguards are quickly eroded.

We see this in other places that have legalised assisted killing. In Canada, which introduced a euthanasia system in 2016, more than 1,400 people cited loneliness as a reason for having their lives ended last year. In one case, Nancy Russell, an elderly woman from Toronto, had her life ended because she feared another Covid lockdown.

Her daughter said she ‘would regularly walk to the library, do her own shopping, and was a spry and social woman. As lockdowns continued to stretch over the months that followed, she felt herself decline.

‘It was contact with people that was like food to her, it was like oxygen. She would be just tired all the time because she was under-stimulated.

‘Faced with a second round of lockdowns and isolation, she made the decision to go to her doctors and seek out a medically assisted death.’

Official figures from the US state of Oregon show 59 per cent of those ending their life in 2019 saying that they were concerned that they would be a burden on family, friends and caregivers. A further 7.4 per cent were worried about the financial implications of their treatment. Data from Washington state reveals similar results.

The inescapable truth is that there is not a safe system of euthanasia and assisted suicide anywhere in the world. And it’s not just the abuses, which are far too common, but the deep-seated flaws associated with legalised state-sanctioned killing.

These include the development of devices such as the Sarco personal gas chamber to end the lives and treatment of the most vulnerable, regarded as slightly less human than ourselves and therefore less worthy of legal protections. The last time similar so-called innovations happened and were celebrated this way was during the eugenics movement in the 1930s. A dark episode in our history that we never want to repeat.

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It reminds me of Soylent Green ( a stupid movie, by the way). The old guy "goes home" which is a euphemism for getting killed, but he's in a room where a movie of his choice is being played, and he chooses nature scenes (which no longer exist in that dystopian world).

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It sounds like Canada's experience is showing us that once suicide is normalized and considered good that people will kill themselves for reasons they never would have actually done so before.

I'm going to see if I can find photos of those things you're talking about.

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The Sarco pod (or Pegasos) is a euthanasia device or machine consisting of a 3D-printed detachable capsule (or coffin) mounted on a stand that contains a canister of liquid nitrogen to die by suicide through inert gas asphyxiation. "Sarco" is short for "sarcophagus". It is used in conjunction with an inert gas, nitrogen, which prevents the panic, sense of suffocation and struggling before unconsciousness, known as the hypercapnic alarm response caused by the presence of high carbon dioxide concentrations in the blood. The Sarco was invented by euthanasia campaigner Philip Nitschke in 2017. Nitschke said in 2021 that he sought and received legal advice about the device's legality in Switzerland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarco_device
The Sarco is an expansion of the hypoxic death provided by a suicide bag. Many people will not consider euthanasia by suicide bag for aesthetic reasons, or feel claustrophobic inside a bag. Nitschke calls this the "plastic bag factor". The Sarco provides a solution to these objections.
Access to the Sarco will be controlled by an online test to gauge mental fitness. If applicants pass, they receive an access code to a Sarco device that works for 24 hours.

Users of the Sarco can choose either a dark or transparent view from the capsule. The transparent view would be chosen if they wish to transport the machine to a particular location to see a certain vista from the machine.The inventor feels that "where you die is certainly an important factor".

The capsule of Sarco provides for a rapid decrease in oxygen level while maintaining a low level of carbon dioxide. On activation, 4 litres (1.1 US gal) of liquid nitrogen causes the oxygen level to drop silently to less than 5% in less than one minute. According to Nitschke, 'The occupant presses the button and the capsule is filled with nitrogen. They will feel a bit dizzy but will then rapidly lose consciousness and die'.
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Everything above is from the above wikipedia page.


The Soylent Green death (the music is part of it; the old man chose the scenery and the music). Go to minute 1, second 15. I can't embed it and make it go to a certain time.
I wonder how long it will be until this is what they do?

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Silver Pie wrote: December 17th, 2021, 2:20 pm It sounds like Canada's experience is showing us that once suicide is normalized and considered good that people will kill themselves for reasons they never would have actually done so before.

I'm going to see if I can find photos of those things you're talking about.
I live in Canada to which we have a raving lunatic Justin Trudeau for a so called leader. He's destroying this once great country financially and morally. Assisted suicide for the mentally challenged is just one of his parties latest bills. That and killing babies still in the womb up till full term are and will happen in Canada. I'm ashamed of what this country now stands for. I don't think I ever really hated a man before but I hate him and everything he stands for.

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Ivebeenouthere wrote: December 18th, 2021, 4:58 am
Silver Pie wrote: December 17th, 2021, 2:20 pm It sounds like Canada's experience is showing us that once suicide is normalized and considered good that people will kill themselves for reasons they never would have actually done so before.

I'm going to see if I can find photos of those things you're talking about.
I live in Canada to which we have a raving lunatic Justin Trudeau for a so called leader. He's destroying this once great country financially and morally. Assisted suicide for the mentally challenged is just one of his parties latest bills. That and killing babies still in the womb up till full term are and will happen in Canada. I'm ashamed of what this country now stands for. I don't think I ever really hated a man before but I hate him and everything he stands for.
Why don't the leaders of Jesus Crist Church speak out against these things. Christ would.

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Ivebeenouthere wrote: December 18th, 2021, 4:58 am
Silver Pie wrote: December 17th, 2021, 2:20 pm It sounds like Canada's experience is showing us that once suicide is normalized and considered good that people will kill themselves for reasons they never would have actually done so before.

I'm going to see if I can find photos of those things you're talking about.
I live in Canada to which we have a raving lunatic Justin Trudeau for a so called leader. He's destroying this once great country financially and morally. Assisted suicide for the mentally challenged is just one of his parties latest bills. That and killing babies still in the womb up till full term are and will happen in Canada. I'm ashamed of what this country now stands for. I don't think I ever really hated a man before but I hate him and everything he stands for.
The thing I hate about that man, apart from his unbearable smugness, is that he goes on and on about equality etc but has effectively inherited his job.

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It's sad that people would climb into that and press a button to die. We are to stand and occupy until Christ returns. If you know that, I think you have a good reason for sticking around.

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Ivebeenouthere wrote: December 18th, 2021, 5:00 am
Ivebeenouthere wrote: December 18th, 2021, 4:58 am
Silver Pie wrote: December 17th, 2021, 2:20 pm It sounds like Canada's experience is showing us that once suicide is normalized and considered good that people will kill themselves for reasons they never would have actually done so before.

I'm going to see if I can find photos of those things you're talking about.
I live in Canada to which we have a raving lunatic Justin Trudeau for a so called leader. He's destroying this once great country financially and morally. Assisted suicide for the mentally challenged is just one of his parties latest bills. That and killing babies still in the womb up till full term are and will happen in Canada. I'm ashamed of what this country now stands for. I don't think I ever really hated a man before but I hate him and everything he stands for.
Why don't the leaders of Jesus Crist Church speak out against these things. Christ would.
It seems they’re too busy pleasing Babylon and making friends in high places.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/chu ... n?lang=eng

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/05 ... eets-with/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.desere ... orge-floyd
All his friends are nice socialists and communists. He called the leader of New Zealand a great leader but this was before she locked down her country with draconian measures and strict vax rules. This week she decided it’s safe to have orgies with up to 25 people again. How nice. It’s odd that there are crickets from church leadership on all the tyranny all over the world. Not a peep about freedom, medical freedom, or censorship. Just follow your wise and thoughtful governments.
I love this excuse: “We can’t talk about the hard things because we have to keep churches and missions open. So just get the jab and wear your mask and follow the rules.”

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Ivebeenouthere wrote: December 18th, 2021, 4:58 am I live in Canada to which we have a raving lunatic Justin Trudeau for a so called leader. He's destroying this once great country financially and morally. Assisted suicide for the mentally challenged is just one of his parties latest bills. That and killing babies still in the womb up till full term are and will happen in Canada. I'm ashamed of what this country now stands for. I don't think I ever really hated a man before but I hate him and everything he stands for.
😭 That is really, really sad. Canada is one country I really wanted to visit a lot, back when all you needed was a birth certificate or a U.S. i.d. to get in and out. I used to have a ton of respect for Canada, but these last two years have got me wondering what happened to a once great nation. ❔

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Silver Pie wrote: December 21st, 2021, 5:49 pm
Ivebeenouthere wrote: December 18th, 2021, 4:58 am I live in Canada to which we have a raving lunatic Justin Trudeau for a so called leader. He's destroying this once great country financially and morally. Assisted suicide for the mentally challenged is just one of his parties latest bills. That and killing babies still in the womb up till full term are and will happen in Canada. I'm ashamed of what this country now stands for. I don't think I ever really hated a man before but I hate him and everything he stands for.
😭 That is really, really sad. Canada is one country I really wanted to visit a lot, back when all you needed was a birth certificate or a U.S. i.d. to get in and out. I used to have a ton of respect for Canada, but these last two years have got me wondering what happened to a once great nation. ❔
One factor is that I think Canada got heavily infiltrated by the Chinese. I don't mean the Hong Kong Chinese who moved there in the 80s and 90s before HK got handed over to Mainland China by the British... they aren't the problem. Many of their ancestors had fled to Hong Kong to escape Communism.

The problem is influence from the Chinese Communist Party, i.e. Mainland China. They've also done the same in Australia and New Zealand, especially through universities and bribing politicians. They can do that more easily in these countries than the USA because of the lower populations.

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Niemand wrote: December 21st, 2021, 6:17 pm The problem is influence from the Chinese Communist Party, i.e. Mainland China. They've also done the same in Australia and New Zealand, especially through universities and bribing politicians. They can do that more easily in these countries than the USA because of the lower populations.
Whoa! Totally did not know that. :(

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So, I understand that one can commit doctor-assisted suicide in Canada. They don't have the personal pods, though. From what I've heard, they give the person something to knock them out, then the death shot. Sounds better than choking on gas. But murdering yourself with a murderous doctor's help? Ugh.

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Niemand wrote: December 18th, 2021, 5:35 am
Ivebeenouthere wrote: December 18th, 2021, 4:58 am
Silver Pie wrote: December 17th, 2021, 2:20 pm It sounds like Canada's experience is showing us that once suicide is normalized and considered good that people will kill themselves for reasons they never would have actually done so before.

I'm going to see if I can find photos of those things you're talking about.
I live in Canada to which we have a raving lunatic Justin Trudeau for a so called leader. He's destroying this once great country financially and morally. Assisted suicide for the mentally challenged is just one of his parties latest bills. That and killing babies still in the womb up till full term are and will happen in Canada. I'm ashamed of what this country now stands for. I don't think I ever really hated a man before but I hate him and everything he stands for.
The thing I hate about that man, apart from his unbearable smugness, is that he goes on and on about equality etc but has effectively inherited his job.
Well, he is Fidel Castro's son, or so says the internets. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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Ancalagon wrote: October 26th, 2022, 10:55 pm Well, he is Fidel Castro's son, or so says the internets. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
I don't know the reality, but in photos that compare him with Fidel and with his father, he looks an awful lot like Fidel and nothing like his father.

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Ancalagon wrote: October 26th, 2022, 10:55 pm Well, he is Fidel Castro's son, or so says the internets. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
They do look similar. If not biologically, then certainly spiritually.

There is one big difference... Turdeau is a milquetoast compared to Castro. Castro's life before taking over Cuba involved gun battles, crawling around in jungles, getting bitten by who knows what and he could have been murdered or strung up a number of times by Batista's supporters. And so in that sense Fidel Castro was a formidable man in a way Turdeau never will be, because he had to work towards his goal and Turdeau never did.

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Ancalagon wrote: October 26th, 2022, 10:55 pm
Niemand wrote: December 18th, 2021, 5:35 am
Ivebeenouthere wrote: December 18th, 2021, 4:58 am
Silver Pie wrote: December 17th, 2021, 2:20 pm It sounds like Canada's experience is showing us that once suicide is normalized and considered good that people will kill themselves for reasons they never would have actually done so before.

I'm going to see if I can find photos of those things you're talking about.
I live in Canada to which we have a raving lunatic Justin Trudeau for a so called leader. He's destroying this once great country financially and morally. Assisted suicide for the mentally challenged is just one of his parties latest bills. That and killing babies still in the womb up till full term are and will happen in Canada. I'm ashamed of what this country now stands for. I don't think I ever really hated a man before but I hate him and everything he stands for.
The thing I hate about that man, apart from his unbearable smugness, is that he goes on and on about equality etc but has effectively inherited his job.
Well, he is Fidel Castro's son, or so says the internets. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Justin has Castro's nose and mouth but has his mom's blue eyes, also Castro's other son, after his dad died, came out and mentioned that Justin was his step brother and his dad (Castro) always compared him to Justin.
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edit addition: The trudeaus and their son were (are) short, JT is 6'3 and Castro 6'2

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