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89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated - Scotland - Check out these charts

Posted: November 25th, 2021, 11:29 am
by 4Joshua8
89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated – Latest Public Health Data proves this is a ‘Pandemic of the Fully Vaccinated’ and suggests the Vaccinated are more likely to die
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/25/pande ... accinated/

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Re: 89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated - Scotland - Check out these charts

Posted: November 25th, 2021, 11:35 am
by Niemand
They keep moving the goalposts. Now fully vax'd is 2 + booster, but they keep pushing this crap on us.

I can confirm from personal experience that the double jagged are being hospitalised here. I can think of six or seven who are, and only one is under sixty.

Yet we're fed propaganda like this (which appears to refer to England rather than Scotland, but is anonymous and not given any context.)

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=64057
From the Guardian:

In hospital, Covid-19 has largely become a disease of the unvaccinated. The man in his 20s who had always watched what he ate, worked out in the gym, was too healthy to ever catch Covid badly. The 48-year-old who never got round to making the appointment. [And we can't verify who either of these folk are.]

The person in their 50s whose friend had side-effects. The woman who wanted to wait for more evidence. The young pregnant lady worried about the effect on her baby. [As if these are unreasonable concerns - sheesh! Aren't all these examples a bit... cliché? I don't know any under sixties in hospital with this, even now.]

The 60-year-old, brought to hospital with oxygen saturations of 70% by the ambulance that he initially called for his partner, who had died by the time it arrived; both believed that the drug companies bribed the government to get the vaccine approved. [Even though they waived liability so no one here can sue them? Why's that Anon?]...

[Cut out long bit]
Fundamentally though, for me, it comes down to this. I can’t think of a single case offhand of a person who was previously fit and healthy who has ended up needing intensive care after being fully vaccinated. [We've been listing them here.] It may not stop you from catching Covid. [So what's the point? Or transmitting it.] But it can save your life when you do. [or not.]

The writer is an NHS respiratory consultant who works across a number of hospitals. [Deliciously vague. Doesn't even give their proper job title.]

Re: 89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated - Scotland - Check out these charts

Posted: November 25th, 2021, 8:55 pm
by Dave62
Niemand wrote: November 25th, 2021, 11:35 am They keep moving the goalposts. Now fully vax'd is 2 + booster, but they keep pushing this crap on us.

I can confirm from personal experience that the double jagged are being hospitalised here. I can think of six or seven who are, and only one is under sixty.

Yet we're fed propaganda like this (which appears to refer to England rather than Scotland, but is anonymous and not given any context.)

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=64057
From the Guardian:

In hospital, Covid-19 has largely become a disease of the unvaccinated. The man in his 20s who had always watched what he ate, worked out in the gym, was too healthy to ever catch Covid badly. The 48-year-old who never got round to making the appointment. [And we can't verify who either of these folk are.]

The person in their 50s whose friend had side-effects. The woman who wanted to wait for more evidence. The young pregnant lady worried about the effect on her baby. [As if these are unreasonable concerns - sheesh! Aren't all these examples a bit... cliché? I don't know any under sixties in hospital with this, even now.]

The 60-year-old, brought to hospital with oxygen saturations of 70% by the ambulance that he initially called for his partner, who had died by the time it arrived; both believed that the drug companies bribed the government to get the vaccine approved. [Even though they waived liability so no one here can sue them? Why's that Anon?]...

[Cut out long bit]
Fundamentally though, for me, it comes down to this. I can’t think of a single case offhand of a person who was previously fit and healthy who has ended up needing intensive care after being fully vaccinated. [We've been listing them here.] It may not stop you from catching Covid. [So what's the point? Or transmitting it.] But it can save your life when you do. [or not.]

The writer is an NHS respiratory consultant who works across a number of hospitals. [Deliciously vague. Doesn't even give their proper job title.]
I would read the article from the Guardian but I would need a frontal lobotomy first! Still, as they say, 'a bottle in front of me is better than a frontal lobotomy.' The stupidity/culpability of our authoritarian elites might make me hit the bottle yet!

Re: 89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated - Scotland - Check out these charts

Posted: November 25th, 2021, 11:41 pm
by The Red Pill
4Joshua8 wrote: November 25th, 2021, 11:29 am
89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated – Latest Public Health Data proves this is a ‘Pandemic of the Fully Vaccinated’ and suggests the Vaccinated are more likely to die
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/25/pande ... accinated/

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Thank you for posting this! My head explodes when I look at the VAERS data, which is grossly conservative, as in about only 10% of actual injury.

The official number of deaths is now approaching 19,000 on VAERS.

I think of the pain, sorrow, despair and depression that each family endures when losing a loved one.

This is premeditated murder, gross negligence, stupidity and worse of all...completely unnessisary.

Those perpetrating the lie of "safe and effective", at this point...are either incredibly ignorant and stupid or complicit.

I am sick and disgusted by the needless death. It's hard to understand the level of evil around us.

Re: 89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated - Scotland - Check out these charts

Posted: November 26th, 2021, 3:48 am
by Niemand
Dave62 wrote: November 25th, 2021, 8:55 pm
Niemand wrote: November 25th, 2021, 11:35 am They keep moving the goalposts. Now fully vax'd is 2 + booster, but they keep pushing this crap on us.

I can confirm from personal experience that the double jagged are being hospitalised here. I can think of six or seven who are, and only one is under sixty.

Yet we're fed propaganda like this (which appears to refer to England rather than Scotland, but is anonymous and not given any context.)

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=64057
From the Guardian:

In hospital, Covid-19 has largely become a disease of the unvaccinated. The man in his 20s who had always watched what he ate, worked out in the gym, was too healthy to ever catch Covid badly. The 48-year-old who never got round to making the appointment. [And we can't verify who either of these folk are.]

The person in their 50s whose friend had side-effects. The woman who wanted to wait for more evidence. The young pregnant lady worried about the effect on her baby. [As if these are unreasonable concerns - sheesh! Aren't all these examples a bit... cliché? I don't know any under sixties in hospital with this, even now.]

The 60-year-old, brought to hospital with oxygen saturations of 70% by the ambulance that he initially called for his partner, who had died by the time it arrived; both believed that the drug companies bribed the government to get the vaccine approved. [Even though they waived liability so no one here can sue them? Why's that Anon?]...

[Cut out long bit]
Fundamentally though, for me, it comes down to this. I can’t think of a single case offhand of a person who was previously fit and healthy who has ended up needing intensive care after being fully vaccinated. [We've been listing them here.] It may not stop you from catching Covid. [So what's the point? Or transmitting it.] But it can save your life when you do. [or not.]

The writer is an NHS respiratory consultant who works across a number of hospitals. [Deliciously vague. Doesn't even give their proper job title.]
I would read the article from the Guardian but I would need a frontal lobotomy first! Still, as they say, 'a bottle in front of me is better than a frontal lobotomy.' The stupidity/culpability of our authoritarian elites might make me hit the bottle yet!
I've cut and pasted the entire Guardian article on here. I think people should read it, because it shows what we're up against. I know a couple of people from here who've shared it on social media. I was at least able to point out to one of them all the people I knew who had been in hospital with it were double jabbed... and that SHE herself knew all these people herself so could verify it. Also named a couple who had reactions to the injection that she knew too

Re: 89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated - Scotland - Check out these charts

Posted: November 26th, 2021, 10:23 am
by Liahona
4Joshua8 wrote: November 25th, 2021, 11:29 am
89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated – Latest Public Health Data proves this is a ‘Pandemic of the Fully Vaccinated’ and suggests the Vaccinated are more likely to die
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/25/pande ... accinated/

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Those charts are being manipulated and contradict what the actual report is saying.

Here is the link to the report itself:

https://publichealthscotland.scot/media ... report.pdf

Table 19 of the report demonstrates that unvaccinated individuals have a higher rate of hospitalizations than those who are vaccinated. The article ignores the standardized hospitalization rate.

Table 20 of the report also demonstrates that unvaccinated individuals have higher mortality rates than those who are vaccinated. The article also ignores this as well.

Re: 89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated - Scotland - Check out these charts

Posted: November 26th, 2021, 11:04 am
by 4Joshua8
Please note that these statistics do not differentiate between individuals in hospital with COVID-19 illness requiring hospitalisation compared to those in hospital for other reasons (e.g. routine operations) for whom COVID-19 was identified incidentally through testing but they are not requiring hospitalisation because of their COVID-19 symptoms.
They estimated 75% and 25%.

And although they’re opposing the report’s statements, they’re using the report’s data and presenting it using a narrative that opposes the opposing bias, like a war, which this is. But the data itself in the charts looks clean to me.

Re: 89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated - Scotland - Check out these charts

Posted: November 26th, 2021, 1:28 pm
by Niemand
Liahona wrote: November 26th, 2021, 10:23 am Table 19 of the report demonstrates that unvaccinated individuals have a higher rate of hospitalizations than those who are vaccinated. The article ignores the standardized hospitalization rate.

Table 20 of the report also demonstrates that unvaccinated individuals have higher mortality rates than those who are vaccinated. The article also ignores this as well.
Not what I'm seeing on the ground. All the people I know here in Scotland who've been hospitalised with Covid recently are double jagged. All of them. No exceptions.

No really young people. One under sixty, who was hospitalised with his wife who is.

It's not the first, nor the last time, I've seen reports which don't tally with everyday reality. A lot of people are testing positive, as usual, few seem to get severely sick. Some.don't know they have it. As usual.